Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue Feb 07 2023 06:29 am

The weather has been very clear in some of the areas it was sighted
in. Makes me wonder if it happens more often than we know, and it
was only exposed because civilians noticed it this time.

3 times while Trump was president, apparently.

And apparently they didn't realize it until well after the balloon had left our airspace.

DaiTengu

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it's in a lot of articles. it's not a regular weather balloon.

I knew that. It did have what looked like solar panels but maybe they were/were also sails that could be moved to cause it to change its course somewhat.


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Then the Chinese know how fast our detection process is. In Afghanistan the Taliban would plant IED's in order to study the
methods of EOD squads. In some situations the EOD waited until
sundown to prevent from being observed.

Do you think the Taliban doesn't have night-vision equipment?

If they didn't before, they do now thanks to Biden.


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Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue Feb 07 2023 06:29 am

Dumas Walker wrote to MOONDOG <=-

The weather has been very clear in some of the areas it was sighted in. Makes me wonder if it happens more often than we know, and it was only exposed because civilians noticed it this time.

3 times while Trump was president, apparently.

I just saw an article saying that was wrong and they retracted it.
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Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in
By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Feb 07 2023 02:56 pm

It was a big ass helium ballon the length of two buses. The ballon stayed at 66k feet all through it's course. At the spped it travelled across the US,

they said it was around 50k in some locations.
also pentagon and other sources said its maneuverable.
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Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Feb 07 2023 04:25 pm

it's in a lot of articles. it's not a regular weather balloon.

I knew that. It did have what looked like solar panels but maybe they were/were also sails that could be moved to cause it to change its course somewhat.

if it's imaging areas it probably had the ability to adjust vertically, as well.

i just looked it up and this balloon was 200feet in height and was carring around 2,000lbs of payload

Then they waited until it got 6 miles off our coast to shoot it down.
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Moondog wrote to Gamgee <=-

that's not good enough. it should be shot down before entering our airspa

Then the Chinese know how fast our detection process is. In Afghanistan the Taliban would plant IED's in order to study the
methods of EOD squads. In some situations the EOD waited until
sundown to prevent from being observed.

Do you think the Taliban doesn't have night-vision equipment?

Even if they did, EOD teams travel with security teams which keep observers and passers by several hundred yards from the device
being dismantled. Assumming no one noticed this group of guys
NODS with magnification recording video, they would also require
a clear line of sight to see what the EOD guys are doing.

But they need that (a clear line of sight) anyway... (even in daylight).
What you're saying doesn't make much sense in supporting the idea that
they do things after dark to avoid being observed.



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Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

Then the Chinese know how fast our detection process is. In Afghanistan the Taliban would plant IED's in order to study the
methods of EOD squads. In some situations the EOD waited until
sundown to prevent from being observed.

Do you think the Taliban doesn't have night-vision equipment?

If they didn't before, they do now thanks to Biden.

Indeed.



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Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
By: DaiTengu to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Feb 07 2023 06:13 pm

Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue Feb 07 2023 06:29 am

The weather has been very clear in some of the areas it was sighted
in. Makes me wonder if it happens more often than we know, and it
was only exposed because civilians noticed it this time.

3 times while Trump was president, apparently.

And apparently they didn't realize it until well after the balloon had left our airspace.

DaiTengu

i dunno. do you really think that's so? it's not just the govt that could catch something like that. it's airports and civilians that could catch it also.

i guess in the past they flew over small areas.
the media that is getting a boner about trump bashing is bloomberg and other trump haters.

i dont think we ever had a godzilla balloon just map an entire stretch from coast to coast before.
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Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in my..
By: MRO to DaiTengu on Tue Feb 07 2023 10:34 pm

i dunno. do you really think that's so? it's not just the govt that could catch something like that. it's airports and civilians that could catch it also.

Yeah, there are a ton of pictures from this baloon. there's even home video of an F-22 firing a missile at it.

Maybe the previous balloons were much smaller?

i guess in the past they flew over small areas.
the media that is getting a boner about trump bashing is bloomberg and other trump haters.

Pretty sure I heard about it on BBC World News, which doesn't have much of a dog in the "bash Trump for more viewers" race.

i dont think we ever had a godzilla balloon just map an entire stretch from coast to coast before.

All China had to do was ask someone, and they would have pointed them to Google Maps. This could all have been avoided.

DaiTengu

...Interchangeable parts won't.

On 07 Feb 2023, DaiTengu said the following...

There are people who think Trump is still the "secret president" and
that the US Military still takes orders from him.

So, was Trump directly in charge of the Afghanistan withdrawl?

No... we need 4 years of Joe Biden to use as a foil for Trump's presidency... Trump as on record saying he wanted every nut and bolt out of that country before the military were to pull out.

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Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in
By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Tue Feb 07 2023 04:37 pm

Then the Chinese know how fast our detection process is. In Afghanistan the Taliban would plant IED's in order to study the methods of EOD squads. In some situations the EOD waited until sundown to prevent from being observed.

Do you think the Taliban doesn't have night-vision equipment?

If they didn't before, they do now thanks to Biden.

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Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in
By: MRO to Moondog on Tue Feb 07 2023 07:41 pm

Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in
By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Feb 07 2023 02:56 pm

It was a big ass helium ballon the length of two buses. The ballon staye at 66k feet all through it's course. At the spped it travelled across th US,

they said it was around 50k in some locations.
also pentagon and other sources said its maneuverable.

It might've steerable by some means. Like any ship in the wind that ability
to steer would be limited

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Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in
By: Gamgee to Moondog on Tue Feb 07 2023 06:51 pm

Moondog wrote to Gamgee <=-

that's not good enough. it should be shot down before entering our air

Then the Chinese know how fast our detection process is. In Afghanistan the Taliban would plant IED's in order to study the methods of EOD squads. In some situations the EOD waited until sundown to prevent from being observed.

Do you think the Taliban doesn't have night-vision equipment?

Even if they did, EOD teams travel with security teams which keep observers and passers by several hundred yards from the device
being dismantled. Assumming no one noticed this group of guys
NODS with magnification recording video, they would also require
a clear line of sight to see what the EOD guys are doing.

But they need that (a clear line of sight) anyway... (even in daylight). What you're saying doesn't make much sense in supporting the idea that
they do things after dark to avoid being observed.

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It' smore obvious they are not casual observers if they are wearing night vision or obvious camera equipment. They will have to position themselves in
a way to get a good picture or line of sight, exposing their intentions.

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if it's imaging areas it probably had the ability to adjust vertically, as

el

If it was carrying a supply of helium, so that it could let some out and
then reinflate, it could have.

i just looked it up and this balloon was 200feet in height and was carring

ro

d 2,000lbs of payload

It was huge to be spotted by citizens when it was so high up.

Then they waited until it got 6 miles off our coast to shoot it down.

Yep!


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There are people who think Trump is still the "secret president" and that

he

S Military still takes orders from him.

There are? I have not heard that one. I did hear about the conspiracty
theory that Trump and one (and only one!) Supreme Court Justice were going
to pull some shennanigans and get him reinstated. That is not a right-wing theory, but a theory believed by those who are afraid it might happen.

So, was Trump directly in charge of the Afghanistan withdrawl?

Nope.


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Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

If they didn't before, they do now thanks to Biden.

You mean, because of the middle-east troop draw-down that Trump
signed before he left?



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Re: Re: Up, Up, and away, in
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu Feb 09 2023 06:47 am

Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

If they didn't before, they do now thanks to Biden.

You mean, because of the middle-east troop draw-down that Trump
signed before he left?

no because of biden leaving equipment and people there.
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If they didn't before, they do now thanks to Biden.

You mean, because of the middle-east troop draw-down that Trump
signed before he left?

If you take over for someone, don't listen to those advising you and then half-ass the job, you can blame you predecessor but that doesn't make it
their fault.


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If they didn't before, they do now thanks to Biden.

You mean, because of the middle-east troop draw-down that Trump
signed before he left?

no because of biden leaving equipment and people there.

That, too.


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