• I think we have lost the

    From Rug Rat@VERT/TRANSPO to All on Wed Oct 15 10:34:00 2025
    So, this came up in my Facebook feed today.

    "A woman allegedly gave her ex-lover a cooler that held the deceased remains of
    her miscarried fetus, saying, "here's your kid."".

    I am not sure what I find scarier..

    That she was only charged with harrasment (I would think this might be crossing
    the line into stalking. Though since the child aborted naturaly I guess there
    was no implied threat.

    or

    That the majority of the comments actually side with her, mostly because he did
    not believe she was pregnant.

    However, with her obvious tenuous hold on mental health, I don't think I would believe her on face value either.

    What do you think? Do you think the charges should have been more severe?

    Do you think she lost the plot?

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  • From Mike Powell@VERT/TRANSPO to RUG RAT on Thu Oct 16 09:05:00 2025
    What do you think? Do you think the charges should have been more severe?

    Not necessarily, but...

    Do you think she lost the plot?

    ... her mental health should probably be evaluated. I would also wonder
    what the relationship was like, i.e. maybe he was mentally abusive, but her reaction is extreme.


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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 16 16:48:34 2025
    Hey Mike!

    On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 09:05:00 +0000, you wrote:

    What do you think? Do you think the charges should have been more
    severe?

    Not necessarily, but...

    Do you think she lost the plot?

    ... her mental health should probably be evaluated. I would also
    wonder what the relationship was like, i.e. maybe he was mentally
    abusive, but her reaction is extreme.


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    Not sure what's going on here, but it seems these posts (RugRat seems to be doing it also) are either being posted in Dovenet and sent to Fidonet as well (or being posted in Fidonet and sent to Dovenet, not sure). Are you possibly using the same echotag? "DEBATE" is a Fidonet echotag, I use "DOVE-DEB" for Dovenet's Debate echo, but one could use any prefix for Dovenet to separate the two.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 17 00:36:28 2025
    Re: I think we have lost the
    By: Mike Powell to RUG RAT on Thu Oct 16 2025 09:05 am

    What do you think? Do you think the charges should have
    been more severe?

    Not necessarily, but...

    i didnt look at the article but that could be about 3 different charges in regards to mishandlilng/disrespecting/abusing a corpse.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Fri Oct 17 00:37:45 2025
    Re: I think we have lost the
    By: Accession to Mike Powell on Thu Oct 16 2025 04:48 pm

    Hey Mike!

    On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 09:05:00 +0000, you wrote:

    What do you think? Do you think the charges should have
    been more
    severe?

    Not necessarily, but...

    Do you think she lost the plot?

    ... her mental health should probably be evaluated. I would also
    wonder what the relationship was like, i.e. maybe he was mentally abusive, but her reaction is extreme.


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    (Wisconsin) (723:1/0)

    Not sure what's going on here, but it seems these posts
    (RugRat seems to be doing it also) are either being posted
    in Dovenet and sent to Fidonet as well (or being posted in
    Fidonet and sent to Dovenet, not sure). Are you possibly
    using the same echotag? "DEBATE" is a Fidonet echotag, I use
    "DOVE-DEB" for Dovenet's Debate echo, but one could use any
    prefix for Dovenet to separate the two.


    i think people should also use the practice of keeping data files in separate directories.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ACCESSION on Thu Oct 16 20:18:58 2025
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    Not sure what's going on here, but it seems these posts (RugRat seems to be doing it also) are either being posted in Dovenet and sent to Fidonet as well (or being posted in Fidonet and sent to Dovenet, not sure). Are you possibly using the same echotag? "DEBATE" is a Fidonet echotag, I use "DOVE-DEB" for Dovenet's Debate echo, but one could use any prefix for Dovenet to separate th
    two.

    I am posting to this thread on the FIDO side.

    My tags are as follows:

    Internal FIDO Tags
    FIDO: DEBATEF DEBATE
    DOVE: DOVE-DEB DOVE-DEBATE

    So they should be separate here.

    I figured he crossposted the original, but I did see his response to me
    come through once in each echo, both with a "Z1" origin line. As there have recently been quite a few posts in Dove Debate that have not "crossed over," I wonder if maybe it is a system that just recently added one of the networks
    (or echoes).

    FWIW, this post from you only came to me via the Dove side.

    Anyone getting the DOVE echoes from me via ftn are using a Z723 address,
    which I picked because your system also uses that zone. ;)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Fri Oct 17 14:17:00 2025
    Re: I think we have lost the
    By: Dumas Walker to ACCESSION on Thu Oct 16 2025 08:18 pm

    Not sure what's going on here, but it seems these posts (RugRat
    seems to be doing it also) are either being posted in Dovenet
    and sent to Fidonet as well (or being posted in Fidonet and sent
    to Dovenet, not sure). Are you possibly using the same echotag?
    "DEBATE" is a Fidonet echotag, I use "DOVE-DEB" for Dovenet's
    Debate echo, but one could use any prefix for Dovenet to separate
    th two.


    i can't believe people do this stuff. it's not like ftn is hard. someone who knows nothing about it can set it up correctly.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Fri Oct 17 20:37:55 2025
    Re: I think we have lost the
    By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Fri Oct 17 2025 04:40 pm

    Correct. I had this happen to me a very long time ago, and made the
    changes to separate the two. Using the default config for Dovenet
    when setting it up, as well as hooking up to Fidonet, you end up
    cross posting messages by using the same message base files.


    that's why it's best to keep things in their own directories. it's just messy to have it all go in one area.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Fri Oct 17 20:42:32 2025
    Re: I think we have lost the
    By: Accession to MRO on Fri Oct 17 2025 05:04 pm

    i can't believe people do this stuff. it's not like ftn is hard.
    someone who knows nothing about it can set it up correctly.

    It's not really a configuration problem on the sysop's end. It's two separate networks that, by default, use the same internal code and
    possibly even Fidonet areatag (when a prefix is not in use). Anyone


    i think it really is a configuration problem. and maybe something that needs to be addressed because it's happened so much. people to need to pay attention to what they are doing when they are connected to networked msg boards. and like i said before, having all the different msg areas in the same place is messy.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Fri Oct 17 21:01:10 2025
    Re: I think we have lost the
    By: MRO to Accession on Fri Oct 17 2025 08:42 pm



    i think it really is a configuration problem. and maybe something
    that needs to be addressed because it's happened so much. people
    to need to pay attention to what they are doing when they are


    and i know it makes it easier to run fixsmb and chksmb when they are all muddled together. but it's still easy to do it when it's separate.
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