Yes Scott

any phone and radio hobbiest here? i wass always the
tinkering type msg if u want
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I actually wound up in Fido back when Fido was first formed! Still have the original floppy disks for it! Radio and phone line stuff was all the reason for the season back then! I got my orignal WN5WQN ham radio novice license here in the USA back in 1952 at 13 years of age. Upgraded immediately to General Class and then when the original Extra Class USA ham license was created, I was, so told me, the yougest kid ever to get one. As to Fido,that was back in the days of 300 Baud then 1000 Baud modems before there was even any Internet. Phone hobbiest? Well, that was also the days when even a 20 mile away telephone call from my College Station, Texas, to Navasota,or Iola or Madisonville or say 25 miles away was a LONG DISTANCE CALL.

As well the telco charged you for even the call if nobody even answered your outbound call! Back in the days of Sroweger Switch mechanical rotary switch operations that changed your outbound calls to the digital hard wire telephone line which connected your phone to whomever. Including multiple user phone connections on non-private lines!

So, at that time, in that my only real interest in the whole radio mess was Morse Code connections and the new 'digital' mode data for Fido was sort of an extension for that stuff, I had a very then unpopular telco known interest to use ham radio to bypass the telco mpney making game!

It got worse. Back then I got that long later, even using a HeathKit H89 computer inside my pickup truck to do mobile phone connections which had even then morphed to voice connections to bypass el telco companies! It got worse!
Back then, Fido Net 117 here in College Station, because of the close connection to Texas A&M College was even MUCH bigger than Fido Net 106 of Houston. The pressure got worse and worse on how anyone was ever going to evrn contemplate making what Fido Net could even do to carry EVERYONE in the world up with less cost to telco one, telco two, or even telco Australia in contact with telco USA whomever! International call costs were HUGE back then.

And back then I was NOT AT ALL part of the Fido boss operations here in Aggieland. Even for Fido contacts for just 25 mile away towns that were needed for data this and data that. It developed that the only way to generate enough money to play this game, the way it had to be done, was to pay for the connection costs, for practical purposes, with pornography! Which I guarantee you would NOT be worth a flip over ham radio short wave communications where anyone could snoop on what was being sent from this or that to whom or whatever! Plus who cares if it was encrypted back then! Money is money! Pay for peep - whatever! Oddly, the normal Fido network was at least not here, used for this. Just the equipment with other than Fido nodelist stuff. Easy to figure that vector out. But I and most of my Fido doggie freinds had NOTHING to do with this.

Anyway, Fido had LOTS of legal snoop and whatever issues with the law enforcement folks over this. Plus the telco folks were not happy with the loss of revenue as well. Even by the mid-1960s I was a very high up commercial aircraft pilot and instrument flight instructor out at Easterwood Airport here at Texas A&M University. A very good Fido friend from a town about 30 miles from here who was commercially doing oil field work at sites all over nearby states and even further and who was using automatic daily telephone paging to Net 117 here, wound up on a two week oil field cleanup site job. When he got home at the end of his two week run, he discovered that his Fido BBS was jammed and calling a site NOT AT ALL INVOLVED in any of this porno stuff over and over again, 24 hous a day! He re-booted it again and problem solved. Not quite! He got a $1,200 plus bill from his telco for long distance calls that were NEVER COMPLETED! And they REFUSED to wipe the bill which they forced him to pay! No more Fido for him and I sure understood why!

We won't go into all the telco furor and telco user furor this and other local phone vs. radio and data relationship that erupted into over all of this back then. Plus, at that time, local and Texas state law enforcement allegations of whomever was ALSO responsible for any of this mess and their claim that IF YOU CAN'T PROVE YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED YOU ARE GUILTY! Even if what they claimed was true and ABSOLUTELY FALSE!

Well, turns out that radio and phone technical capability, paired up with even at time computer data storage and absolute proof of the whole thing but only with ABSOLUTE GLOBAL VARIABLE PROGRAMMING and *NOT EVER* any sort of what is now an API or whatever, is still totally needed even today for proving innocence. But virtually nobody will agree with that. Oh well. And what was your message?

Anyway, they threw all the Fido Net 117 hardware and stuff on my front porch in the middle of one night! Plus visits from all kinds of law enforecment 'folks' that knew I could prove I had NOTHING to do with their 'cure' for all this. Which I have complied completely with for what, about 4 decades now?

Amazing how the Fido Doggie still barks and is so important! Chuckle!


Mike Luther N117C at 1:117/100






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Re: scott thomas
By: Mike Luther to Scott Thomas on Sun Aug 03 2014 08:44 pm

Yes Scott

any phone and radio hobbiest here? i wass always the
tinkering type msg if u want
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I actually wound up in Fido back when Fido was first formed! Still have

the

original floppy disks for it! Radio and phone line stuff was all the

reason

for the season back then! I got my orignal WN5WQN ham radio novice license here in the USA back in 1952 at 13 years of age. Upgraded immediately to General Class and then when the original Extra Class USA ham license was created, I was, so told me, the yougest kid ever to get one. As to

Fido,tha

was back in the days of 300 Baud then 1000 Baud modems before there was

even

any Internet. Phone hobbiest? Well, that was also the days when even a 20 mile away telephone call from my College Station, Texas, to Navasota,or

Iola

Madisonville or say 25 miles away was a LONG DISTANCE CALL.

As well the telco charged you for even the call if nobody even answered

your

outbound call! Back in the days of Sroweger Switch mechanical rotary

switch

operations that changed your outbound calls to the digital hard wire

telepho

line which connected your phone to whomever. Including multiple user phone connections on non-private lines!

So, at that time, in that my only real interest in the whole radio mess was Morse Code connections and the new 'digital' mode data for Fido was sort of extension for that stuff, I had a very then unpopular telco known interest use ham radio to bypass the telco mpney making game!

It got worse. Back then I got that long later, even using a HeathKit H89 computer inside my pickup truck to do mobile phone connections which had

eve

then morphed to voice connections to bypass el telco companies! It got

wors

Back then, Fido Net 117 here in College Station, because of the close connection to Texas A&M College was even MUCH bigger than Fido Net 106 of Houston. The pressure got worse and worse on how anyone was ever going to contemplate making what Fido Net could even do to carry EVERYONE in the

worl

up with less cost to telco one, telco two, or even telco Australia in

contac

with telco USA whomever! International call costs were HUGE back then.

And back then I was NOT AT ALL part of the Fido boss operations here in Aggieland. Even for Fido contacts for just 25 mile away towns that were

nee

for data this and data that. It developed that the only way to generate

enou

money to play this game, the way it had to be done, was to pay for the connection costs, for practical purposes, with pornography! Which I

guarante

you would NOT be worth a flip over ham radio short wave communications

where

anyone could snoop on what was being sent from this or that to whom or whatever! Plus who cares if it was encrypted back then! Money is money!

Pa

for peep - whatever! Oddly, the normal Fido network was at least not here, used for this. Just the equipment with other than Fido nodelist stuff.

Eas

to figure that vector out. But I and most of my Fido doggie freinds had NOTHING to do with this.

Anyway, Fido had LOTS of legal snoop and whatever issues with the law enforcement folks over this. Plus the telco folks were not happy with the of revenue as well. Even by the mid-1960s I was a very high up commercial aircraft pilot and instrument flight instructor out at Easterwood Airport

he

at Texas A&M University. A very good Fido friend from a town about 30

miles

from here who was commercially doing oil field work at sites all over

nearby

states and even further and who was using automatic daily telephone paging Net 117 here, wound up on a two week oil field cleanup site job. When he

go

home at the end of his two week run, he discovered that his Fido BBS was

jam

and calling a site NOT AT ALL INVOLVED in any of this porno stuff over and again, 24 hous a day! He re-booted it again and problem solved. Not

quite!

He got a $1,200 plus bill from his telco for long distance calls that were NEVER COMPLETED! And they REFUSED to wipe the bill which they forced him

to

pay! No more Fido for him and I sure understood why!

We won't go into all the telco furor and telco user furor this and other

loc

phone vs. radio and data relationship that erupted into over all of this

bac

then. Plus, at that time, local and Texas state law enforcement

allegations

whomever was ALSO responsible for any of this mess and their claim that IF CAN'T PROVE YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED YOU ARE GUILTY! Even if what they claimed true and ABSOLUTELY FALSE!

Well, turns out that radio and phone technical capability, paired up with

ev

at time computer data storage and absolute proof of the whole thing but

only

with ABSOLUTE GLOBAL VARIABLE PROGRAMMING and *NOT EVER* any sort of what

is

now an API or whatever, is still totally needed even today for proving innocence. But virtually nobody will agree with that. Oh well. And what

wa

your message?

Anyway, they threw all the Fido Net 117 hardware and stuff on my front

porch

the middle of one night! Plus visits from all kinds of law enforecment

'fol

that knew I could prove I had NOTHING to do with their 'cure' for all this. Which I have complied completely with for what, about 4 decades now?

Amazing how the Fido Doggie still barks and is so important! Chuckle!

Mike Luther N117C at 1:117/100

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Answering a message from 10th_amd.

Hello, Mike Luther.
On 8/3/14 8:44 PM you wrote:

Yes Scott

any phone and radio hobbiest here? i wass always the tinkering
type msg if u want --- SBBSecho 2.12-Win32 * Origin: The Board
(1:218/210)

I actually wound up in Fido back when Fido was first formed!
Still have the original floppy disks for it! Radio and phone line
stuff was all the reason for the season back then! I got my
orignal WN5WQN ham radio novice license here in the USA back in
1952 at 13 years of age. Upgraded immediately to General Class
and then when the original Extra Class USA ham license was
created, I was, so told me, the yougest kid ever to get one. As
to Fido,that was back in the days of 300 Baud then 1000 Baud
modems before there was even any Internet. Phone hobbiest? Well,
that was also the days when even a 20 mile away telephone call
from my College Station, Texas, to Navasota,or Iola or
Madisonville or say 25 miles away was a LONG DISTANCE CALL.

wow that is so nice piece of history.... :-)

As well the telco charged you for even the call if nobody even
answered your outbound call! Back in the days of Sroweger Switch mechanical rotary switch operations that changed your outbound
calls to the digital hard wire telephone line which connected your
phone to whomever. Including multiple user phone connections on non-private lines!

wtf those mean phone companies.... now days you can get phone - voice/data though vontage with un limit long distance to mexico/USA/Canada with north america plan and most countries are only 1 cent a minute to like 55 cents depending on country and own any number you want in USA even some international vitural phone numbers.... even they got world unlimit plan for most countries including USA/mexico/Canada for data modem or faxing calls has to be at least 512k up/down and on 90k setting on the VoIP (via vontage website)

it got cheaper those days. I remember my step dad who used to own a carpet cleaning business in Arizona, he lived in Tucson then later phoenix and to own a serra vista az line in the past you had to pay 50.00 to 125.00 or more per month to own a different city line but now with VoIP the prices got cheaper only 9.99 to 27.00 a mo depending on plans and get line anywhere you want.

So, at that time, in that my only real interest in the whole radio
mess was Morse Code connections and the new 'digital' mode data
for Fido was sort of an extension for that stuff, I had a very
then unpopular telco known interest to use ham radio to bypass the
telco mpney making game!

haha

It got worse. Back then I got that long later, even using a
HeathKit H89 computer inside my pickup truck to do mobile phone connections which had even then morphed to voice connections to
bypass el telco companies! It got worse! Back then, Fido Net 117
here in College Station, because of the close connection to Texas
A&M College was even MUCH bigger than Fido Net 106 of Houston.
The pressure got worse and worse on how anyone was ever going to
evrn contemplate making what Fido Net could even do to carry
EVERYONE in the world up with less cost to telco one, telco two,
or even telco Australia in contact with telco USA whomever! International call costs were HUGE back then.

yep. it got cheaper nowdays only 1 cent a min to most countries in the world with vontage. lol

And back then I was NOT AT ALL part of the Fido boss operations
here in Aggieland. Even for Fido contacts for just 25 mile away
towns that were needed for data this and data that. It developed
that the only way to generate enough money to play this game, the
way it had to be done, was to pay for the connection costs, for
practical purposes, with pornography! Which I guarantee you would
NOT be worth a flip over ham radio short wave communications where
anyone could snoop on what was being sent from this or that to
whom or whatever! Plus who cares if it was encrypted back then!
Money is money! Pay for peep - whatever! Oddly, the normal Fido
network was at least not here, used for this. Just the equipment
with other than Fido nodelist stuff. Easy to figure that vector
out. But I and most of my Fido doggie freinds had NOTHING to do
with this.

hahah

Anyway, Fido had LOTS of legal snoop and whatever issues with the
law enforcement folks over this. Plus the telco folks were not
happy with the loss of revenue as well. Even by the mid-1960s I
was a very high up commercial aircraft pilot and instrument flight instructor out at Easterwood Airport here at Texas A&M University.
A very good Fido friend from a town about 30 miles from here who
was commercially doing oil field work at sites all over nearby
states and even further and who was using automatic daily
telephone paging to Net 117 here, wound up on a two week oil field cleanup site job. When he got home at the end of his two week
run, he discovered that his Fido BBS was jammed and calling a site
NOT AT ALL INVOLVED in any of this porno stuff over and over
again, 24 hous a day! He re-booted it again and problem solved.
Not quite! He got a $1,200 plus bill from his telco for long
distance calls that were NEVER COMPLETED! And they REFUSED to
wipe the bill which they forced him to pay! No more Fido for him
and I sure understood why!

wow wtf .. telephone co is so mean....

We won't go into all the telco furor and telco user furor this and
other local phone vs. radio and data relationship that erupted
into over all of this back then. Plus, at that time, local and
Texas state law enforcement allegations of whomever was ALSO
responsible for any of this mess and their claim that IF YOU CAN'T
PROVE YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED YOU ARE GUILTY! Even if what they
claimed was true and ABSOLUTELY FALSE!

no comment lol

Well, turns out that radio and phone technical capability, paired
up with even at time computer data storage and absolute proof of
the whole thing but only with ABSOLUTE GLOBAL VARIABLE PROGRAMMING
and *NOT EVER* any sort of what is now an API or whatever, is
still totally needed even today for proving innocence. But
virtually nobody will agree with that. Oh well. And what was your message?

screw it lol

Anyway, they threw all the Fido Net 117 hardware and stuff on my
front porch in the middle of one night! Plus visits from all
kinds of law enforecment 'folks' that knew I could prove I had
NOTHING to do with their 'cure' for all this. Which I have
complied completely with for what, about 4 decades now?

hahaha keep the gifts lol :-P

Amazing how the Fido Doggie still barks and is so important!
Chuckle!

yeah it is nice thing... lol


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