Hello All,

I have a problem with Allfix. Ik has been running stable for decades under Win 95, Win XP and now Win 8, but all of a sudden it keeps crashing when called from the batch file that handles incoming mail. On the screen there is this message:

D:\fido\ALLFIX>allfix mgr
LSxPower Error lsx1510: Internal Exception (LSXPOWER.DMP created)
D:\FIDO\ALLFIX\ALLFIX.EXE has been stopped

Nothing at all is written to the log, the message appears only on the screen.

I am running this version:

ALLFIX Universal, v5.13.004 ù fileecho processor ù 22-May-99 09:43

Anyone seen this before?


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Michiel!

08 Dec 25 10:36, you wrote to all:

Only thing I can think of is - have you had any system updates and yes that includes windows even allowing for the fact that MS support for v8 ended some years ago.

Suggest you check the system update logs for any such.

Vince

Hello All,

I have a problem with Allfix. Ik has been running stable for decades
under Win 95, Win XP and now Win 8, but all of a sudden it keeps
crashing when called from the batch file that handles incoming mail.
On the screen there is this message:

D:\fido\ALLFIX>allfix mgr
LSxPower Error lsx1510: Internal Exception (LSXPOWER.DMP created)
D:\FIDO\ALLFIX\ALLFIX.EXE has been stopped

Nothing at all is written to the log, the message appears only on the screen.

I am running this version:

ALLFIX Universal, v5.13.004 ù fileecho processor ù 22-May-99 09:43

Anyone seen this before?

Cheers, Michiel

Vincent


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Hello Vincent,

On Monday December 08 2025 16:12, you wrote to me:

Only thing I can think of is - have you had any system updates and yes that includes windows even allowing for the fact that MS support for
v8 ended some years ago.

Suggest you check the system update logs for any such.

I see no traces of any WIN 8 updates.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Michiel!

08 Dec 25 21:58, you wrote to me:

Hello Vincent,

On Monday December 08 2025 16:12, you wrote to me:

Only thing I can think of is - have you had any system updates
and yes that includes windows even allowing for the fact that MS
support for v8 ended some years ago.

Suggest you check the system update logs for any such.

I see no traces of any WIN 8 updates.

Any other system updates ?



Vincent


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Hello Vincent,

On Monday December 08 2025 22:22, you wrote to me:

Suggest you check the system update logs for any such.

I see no traces of any WIN 8 updates.

Any other system updates ?

What other updates? This system with windows 8 has been running since september 2024. There is nothing else on it but the Fido system, firefox and Thunderbird. The latter two can not receive updates any more.

Maybe I was a bit inaccurate in my starting post. I write that this problem appeared all a sudden but may be that isn't so. It may have happened before without me noticing. It is only visible by the message written to the screen, nothing is written to the logs. File handling usually happens in the night and a missing updates from the daily files can easely go unnoticed.

Anyway, it seems I am not using the latest version of allfix. Mine still uses a key and it is a 16 bit version.

Rumour has it that a 32 bit keyless version is available. So if you could point me to where I can get that version, I may give it a try.



Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Michiel.

08 Dec 25 10:36, you wrote to All:

I have a problem with Allfix. Ik has been running stable for decades under Win
95, Win XP and now Win 8, but all of a sudden it keeps crashing when called
from the batch file that handles incoming mail. On the screen there is this
message:

D:\fido\ALLFIX>allfix mgr
LSxPower Error lsx1510: Internal Exception (LSXPOWER.DMP created)
D:\FIDO\ALLFIX\ALLFIX.EXE has been stopped

Nothing at all is written to the log, the message appears only on the screen.

I am running this version:

ALLFIX Universal, v5.13.004 ù fileecho processor ù 22-May-99 09:43

Did you try the DOS executable instead or Uni?

'Tommi

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Hi Michiel.

09 Dec 25 10:17, you wrote to Vincent Coen:

Anyway, it seems I am not using the latest version of allfix. Mine still uses a
key and it is a 16 bit version.

The latest from Harald Harms is:

ALLFIX Universal, v6.00.018 fileecho processor 09-Jul-00 14:22
Copyright (C) 1992,2000 by Harms Software Eng., All rights reserved.

Runs fine in my OS/2 system.

Rumour has it that a 32 bit keyless version is available. So if you
could point me to where I can get that version, I may give it a try.

www.allfix.com seems down. I should have the version 6 and 7 archives somewhere... Hold on...

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi,

On Tuesday December 09 2025 17:16, you wrote to me:

I am running this version:

ALLFIX Universal, v5.13.004 Û fileecho processor Û 22-May-99
09:43

Did you try the DOS executable instead or Uni?

Yes, I tried the DOS executable. I won't run here because my key is invalid for that version.


Cheers, Michiel

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09 Dec 25 16:41, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tommi Koivula:

ALLFIX Universal, v5.13.004 Û fileecho processor Û 22-May-99
09:43

Did you try the DOS executable instead or Uni?

Yes, I tried the DOS executable. I won't run here because my key is invalid for that version.

I see. I have keys for all five.. :D

=== Cut ===
±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±³ Reg key DOS þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ ³±±± ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±³ Reg key OS2 þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ ³±±± ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±³ Reg key WC þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ ³±±± ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±³ Reg key UNI þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ ³±±± ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±³ Reg key BETA þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ ³±±± ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±
=== Cut ===

Check your inbound for AFXGB610.ZIP.

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi,

On Tuesday December 09 2025 17:47, you wrote to me:

I see. I have keys for all five.. :D

=== Cut ===
±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±³ Reg key DOS þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ ³±±± ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±³ Reg key OS2 þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ ³±±± ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±³ Reg key WC þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ ³±±± ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±³ Reg key UNI þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ ³±±± ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±³ Reg key BETA þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ ³±±± ±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±±
=== Cut ===

Check your inbound for AFXGB610.ZIP.

It landed in my unsecure inbound...

OK. tnx, I will take a look at it later.

Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Tommi,

On 2025-12-09 17:21:00, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

www.allfix.com seems down. I should have the version 6 and 7 archives somewhere... Hold on...

For some years now. But it's avaliable on archive.org:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230209083117/https://allfix.com/

... For the latest.

Some of the downloads also work.


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi All,

On 2025-12-09 17:21:00, Tommi wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

www.allfix.com seems down.

I just talked to Ken Johnson, by email, about allfix and stuff.

allfix.com is still owned by Bob Seaborn's son, his intensions with it are unclear. But he's not doing anything with it. The domain is still registered (until 2026-02-24T05:00:00Z), but there are no dns records for it.

Ken moved the website to https://allfix.app/ (has been mentioned in this area a couple of years ago).
All released versions can be downloaded from this website.


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Wilfred.

11 Dec 25 10:00, you wrote to All:

allfix.com is still owned by Bob Seaborn's son, his intensions with it are unclear. But he's not doing anything with it. The domain is still registered
(until 2026-02-24T05:00:00Z), but there are no dns records for it.

Ken moved the website to https://allfix.app/ (has been mentioned in this area a
couple of years ago). All released versions can be downloaded from this website.

Nice.

But still no 'free' version of Universal or Windows version at all. The real development stopped 25 years ago when Harald Harms left. :(

'Tommi

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Ken moved the website to https://allfix.app/ (has been mentioned in this area a
couple of years ago). All released versions can be downloaded from this website.

Not All... :(

===
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access this resource.
Apache/2.4.65 (Debian) Server at allfix.app Port 80
===

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2025-12-11 11:22:32, you wrote to me:

allfix.com is still owned by Bob Seaborn's son, his intensions with
it are unclear. But he's not doing anything with it. The domain is
still registered (until 2026-02-24T05:00:00Z), but there are no dns
records for it.

Ken moved the website to https://allfix.app/ (has been mentioned in this
area a couple of years ago). All released versions can be downloaded from
this website.

Nice.

But still no 'free' version of Universal or Windows version at all. The real
development stopped 25 years ago when Harald Harms left. :(

Ken said he is still working on a Linux version, but most of his time is spend on his real Job.

Bob Seaborn, the owner between Harald and Ken, didn't want it open sourced. Maybe Ken will change his mind now, about this...?


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Wilfred.

11 Dec 25 10:32, you wrote to me:

But still no 'free' version of Universal or Windows version at
all. The real development stopped 25 years ago when Harald Harms
left. :(

Ken said he is still working on a Linux version, but most of his time
is spend on his real Job.

It happens. ;) Let's wait for another 15 years. ;)

Bob Seaborn, the owner between Harald and Ken, didn't want it open
sourced. Maybe Ken will change his mind now, about this...?

Maybe, there would be a nice job for you then. :)

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2025-12-11 12:38:33, you wrote to me:

But still no 'free' version of Universal or Windows version at
all. The real development stopped 25 years ago when Harald Harms
left. :(

Ken said he is still working on a Linux version, but most of his time
is spend on his real Job.

It happens. ;) Let's wait for another 15 years. ;)

Well, he needs to hurry a bit, because the number of potential interested fido users will be shrinking rapidly in the coming decade, I'm afraid...

Bob Seaborn, the owner between Harald and Ken, didn't want it open
sourced. Maybe Ken will change his mind now, about this...?

Maybe, there would be a nice job for you then. :)

My knowledge of Pascal is very minimal... ;-/


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Michiel,

On Tuesday December 09 2025 17:43, I wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Check your inbound for AFXGB610.ZIP.

It landed in my unsecure inbound...

OK. tnx, I will take a look at it later.

It didn't work for me. Asetup asks for permission to make changes to the system. Allfix file hangs up and after a forced exit, asetup won't run again.

I gave up.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Tommi,

On Thursday December 11 2025 11:22, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

But still no 'free' version of Universal or Windows version at all.
The real development stopped 25 years ago when Harald Harms left. :(

Indeed. A pity Harald did not make it open source like Folkert did for Fmail. :-(


Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Michiel.

11 Dec 25 14:40:02, you wrote to me:

Check your inbound for AFXGB610.ZIP.

It landed in my unsecure inbound...

OK. tnx, I will take a look at it later.

It didn't work for me. Asetup asks for permission to make changes to the system. Allfix file hangs up and after a forced exit, asetup won't run again.

Funny, it runs fine in a Win7 32bit VM here... Maybe you should UPGRADE that Win8 to Win7. :)

I gave up.

How about the pioneer spirit thing that some dutch guy was talking about once?

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2025-12-11 17:23:18, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

It didn't work for me. Asetup asks for permission to make changes to
the system. Allfix file hangs up and after a forced exit, asetup
won't run again.

Funny, it runs fine in a Win7 32bit VM here...

Could this be an issue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_Pascal#Issue_with_CRT_unit_on_fast_processors

And maybe you patched your version or installed some kind of workaround on your system, and forgot about it? ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Wilfred.

11 Dec 25 11:47, you wrote to me:

Maybe, there would be a nice job for you then. :)

My knowledge of Pascal is very minimal... ;-/

Ok then, how about adding file processing support to FMail? ;D

'Tommi

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Hi Wilfred.

11 Dec 25 16:39:10, you wrote to me:

It didn't work for me. Asetup asks for permission to make changes
to the system. Allfix file hangs up and after a forced exit,
asetup won't run again.

Funny, it runs fine in a Win7 32bit VM here...

Could this be an issue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_Pascal#Issue_with_CRT_unit_on_fast_p rocessors

Oh, the famous "Runtime Error 200" thing.

And maybe you patched your version or installed some kind of workaround
on your system, and forgot about it? ;-)

Nope! :)

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2025-12-11 17:43:05, you wrote to me:

Maybe, there would be a nice job for you then. :)

My knowledge of Pascal is very minimal... ;-/

Ok then, how about adding file processing support to FMail? ;D

Nah, it's better to keep these functions in seperate programs. In the linux spirit of things...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Wilfred.

11 Dec 25 16:50:46, you wrote to me:

Ok then, how about adding file processing support to FMail? ;D

Nah, it's better to keep these functions in seperate programs. In the linux spirit of things...

Of course. However, I like the husky way to have all the configs in one place where seperate programs can use them.

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi,

On Thursday December 11 2025 17:23, you wrote to me:

It didn't work for me. Asetup asks for permission to make changes
to the system. Allfix file hangs up and after a forced exit,
asetup won't run again.

Funny, it runs fine in a Win7 32bit VM here...

Maybe your VM slows down the process to the point where that infamous error 200 no longer is an issue...

Maybe you should UPGRADE that Win8 to Win7. :)

Your wish has majically been granted. I looked again and lo and behold, I now have Windows 7. ;-)

I gave up.

How about the pioneer spirit thing that some dutch guy was talking
about once?

Pioneer spirit is about adopting the new and unexplored. It does not imply holding on to decades old abandonware. On the contrary, to make room for the new, some times one has to say goodbye to the old...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Wilfred,

On Thursday December 11 2025 16:39, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Funny, it runs fine in a Win7 32bit VM here...

Could this be an issue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_Pascal#Issue_with_CRT_unit_on_fast _processors

And maybe you patched your version or installed some kind of
workaround on your system, and forgot about it? ;-)

Or the VM slows it down to the point where it is not an issue.


Cheers, Michiel

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12 Dec 25 10:58, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tommi Koivula:

It didn't work for me. Asetup asks for permission to make
changes to the system. Allfix file hangs up and after a forced
exit, asetup won't run again.

Funny, it runs fine in a Win7 32bit VM here...

Maybe your VM slows down the process to the point where that infamous error 200 no longer is an issue...

Possible. Also a very old SuperBBS works in this Win7 VM but it does not run in my OS/2 VM. :)

=== Cut ===
Directory of D:\SBBS\BBS.EXE

BBS.EXE 80384 31.10.93 23:22
80 384 bytes in 1 file and 0 dirs 80 896 bytes allocated
1 073 778 688 bytes free
=== Cut ===

Maybe you should UPGRADE that Win8 to Win7. :)

Your wish has majically been granted. I looked again and lo and
behold, I now have Windows 7. ;-)

So it should run. How about adjusting DOS settings and turning UAC totally off.

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2025-12-12 12:00:32, you wrote to me:

Ok then, how about adding file processing support to FMail? ;D

Nah, it's better to keep these functions in seperate programs. In the
linux spirit of things...

Of course. However, I like the husky way to have all the configs in one place
where seperate programs can use them.

Where things are more or less the same for different programs, like configuration for nodes, that makes sense...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Michiel,

On 2025-12-12 11:04:00, you wrote to me:

Funny, it runs fine in a Win7 32bit VM here...

Could this be an issue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_Pascal#Issue_with_CRT_unit_on_fast
_processors

And maybe you patched your version or installed some kind of
workaround on your system, and forgot about it? ;-)

MvdV> Or the VM slows it down to the point where it is not an issue.

It's unlikely it does that on its own accord...

But there is a software layer between the guest and the host hardware, that might influence this.

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Tommi,

On Friday December 12 2025 12:28, you wrote to me:

Maybe you should UPGRADE that Win8 to Win7. :)

Your wish has majically been granted. I looked again and lo and
behold, I now have Windows 7. ;-)

So it should run.

It doesn't.

How about adjusting DOS settings and turning UAC totally off.

I have no idea what UAC is and I am not going to tamper with settings if I have no idea what I am doing.

As I wrote: mu system runs fine without allfix for the time being.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Wilfred,

On Friday December 12 2025 12:01, you wrote to me:

And maybe you patched your version or installed some kind of
workaround on your system, and forgot about it? ;-)

MvdV>> Or the VM slows it down to the point where it is not an issue.

It's unlikely it does that on its own accord...

But there is a software layer between the guest and the host hardware, that might influence this.

That is what I meant.


Cheers, Michiel

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Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

MVDV> TK> How about adjusting DOS settings and turning UAC totally off.
MVDV>
MVDV> I have no idea what UAC is and I am not going to tamper with
MVDV> settings if I have no idea what I am doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Account_Control

MVDV> As I wrote: mu system runs fine without allfix for the time being.

Too bad for you then.

'Tommi

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