• Stark Wreck

    From John W. Kennedy@1:2320/100 to All on Tue Nov 12 10:52:02 2013
    From: "John W. Kennedy" <John.W.Kennedy@gmail.com>

    On Friday, November 8, 2013 1:09:10 AM UTC-5, Joe Chicago wrote:
    I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European spoof on
    both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

    Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

    "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning", the one you saw, is actually the seventh in the series, but it is vastly more popular than the others. In fact, it is arguably the most successful movie ever made in Finland.


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  • From Blair Leatherwood@1:2320/100 to All on Tue Nov 12 11:30:02 2013
    From: Blair Leatherwood <bleatherwood@comcast.net>

    On 11/12/13, 10:42 AM, John W. Kennedy wrote:
    On Friday, November 8, 2013 1:09:10 AM UTC-5, Joe Chicago wrote:
    I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European spoof on
    both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

    Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally regarded as
    "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine Empire, is not Eastern
    Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.


    Not only that, it's not usually considered Scandinavia--huge debate on
    that one, but I'm on the "it's not Scandinavian" side.

    Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
    in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

    Blair




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  • From Nicole Massey@1:2320/100 to All on Tue Nov 12 14:25:02 2013
    From: "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com>


    "Elko T" <nono.black.elko@gmail.com> wrote in message news:l5u1qb$8uc$1@dont-email.me...
    Blair Leatherwood wrote:
    On 11/12/13, 10:42 AM, John W. Kennedy wrote:
    On Friday, November 8, 2013 1:09:10 AM UTC-5, Joe Chicago wrote:
    I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European
    spoof on both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point >>>> of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

    Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally
    regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine
    Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is
    not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

    Hmmm. It /was/ part of the Russian Empire for over 100 years, and the second largest religious denomination is the Eastern Orthodox. As for the rest, true.


    Not only that, it's not usually considered Scandinavia--huge debate on
    that one, but I'm on the "it's not Scandinavian" side.

    That depends on where one studied geography. We had the same discussion
    in rec.sport.soccer. Some learn that the Scandinavian peninsula starts up
    at the north kink. I, however, learned it as the "Scandinavian Tiger".
    (You can picture it as a big cat form, Finland and parts of Russia being
    the hind legs and the tail.)


    Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language in >> which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

    What about Georgia, then? :)

    And Wales, too. There's the old joke about a Wheel of Fortune puzzle where
    the topic is Welsh place names and the contestant loses control of the wheel because he asks to buy a vowel.




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  • From Kurt Ullman@1:2320/100 to All on Tue Nov 12 17:54:02 2013
    From: Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>

    In article <l5u29j$lor$1@news.albasani.net>,
    "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@gypsyheir.com> wrote:


    And Wales, too. There's the old joke about a Wheel of Fortune puzzle where the topic is Welsh place names and the contestant loses control of the wheel because he asks to buy a vowel.
    I watched the Finnish version of WHeel a few years ago. That was a
    rather strange occurance.
    --
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    i Aaron Levenstein


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  • From Adam H. Kerman@1:2320/100 to All on Tue Nov 12 20:13:02 2013
    From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>

    John W. Kennedy <John.W.Kennedy@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, November 8, 2013 1:09:10 AM UTC-5, Joe Chicago wrote:

    I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European
    spoof on both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a point
    of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

    Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally
    regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine
    Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is
    not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

    Finland was part of Sweden for seven centuries, and then part of Russia for around a century till the Russian Revolution. Bolshevics tried to keep
    Finland in Russia but didn't succeed, due in part to German support for independence. During WWII, Finland fought Russia for several years.

    Post-war, Finland secured its independence with a tenuous relationship with Soviet Union in which they avoided pursuing certain aspects of foreign relations expected to displease Russia. Obviously, Finland never joined NATO, which undoubtably would have been considered provocative enough by Russia
    that it would have conquered it again.

    I disagree with some of your remarks about Finland's independence.


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  • From Elko T@1:2320/100 to All on Tue Nov 12 22:17:02 2013
    From: Elko T <nono.black.elko@gmail.com>

    Blair Leatherwood wrote:
    On 11/12/13, 10:42 AM, John W. Kennedy wrote:
    On Friday, November 8, 2013 1:09:10 AM UTC-5, Joe Chicago wrote:
    I just found a YouTube thing called Star Wreck, an Eastern European
    spoof on both ST:TNG and Bab 5. Fairly amusing. They even made a
    point of having Garabaldi put his hands in his pockets!

    Although Finland is in Europe and is eastern, it is not generally
    regarded as "Eastern Europe", as it was never part of the Byzantine
    Empire, is not Eastern Orthodox, has never been Turkic or Islamic, is
    not Slavic, and was never a component or satellite of the Soviet Union.

    Hmmm. It /was/ part of the Russian Empire for over 100 years, and the second

    largest religious denomination is the Eastern Orthodox. As for the rest, true.


    Not only that, it's not usually considered Scandinavia--huge debate on
    that one, but I'm on the "it's not Scandinavian" side.

    That depends on where one studied geography. We had the same discussion in rec.sport.soccer. Some learn that the Scandinavian peninsula starts up at the north kink. I, however, learned it as the "Scandinavian Tiger". (You can picture
    it as a big cat form, Finland and parts of Russia being the hind legs and the tail.)


    Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
    in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

    What about Georgia, then? :)

    --
    No, no, you can't e-mail me with the nono.


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  • From Joe Chicago@1:2320/100 to All on Fri Nov 15 12:12:02 2013
    From: Joe Chicago <levdtrotsky@mac.com>

    Thanks for all the replies.

    I was guessing on the language, never having heard Finnish before.

    All I know about Finnish is that it is supposedly highly inflected, with 14 cases, which are a function of things like the gender of the person you're talking to.

    Did used to know a guy who did Finnish genealogies in Salt Lake City.

    mannerism were really quite good, except that they missed the fact that Bester always held one hand in a fist, from a trauma earlier in his life covered by one of the "canonical" works of fiction.



    - Joe Chicasgo


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  • From Jeffrey Kaplan@1:2320/100 to All on Sun Nov 17 20:45:02 2013
    From: Jeffrey Kaplan <gordol@gordol.org>

    Previously on rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, Blair Leatherwood
    said:

    Poor Finland. I think the only reason it exists is to have a language
    in which to dump all the consonants no one else uses.

    I beg to differ. Finland had, for a while, the world's top mobile
    phone maker. Also some of THE best snow tires on the planet.

    Then there's this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNr3nK_bvKQ

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    to the gloomy atmosphere, they are good conductors of vibrations and a
    lot of prisoners know Morse code.


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  • From Virgo P├Ñrna@1:2320/100 to All on Mon Nov 18 17:27:02 2013
    From: Virgo P|nrna <virgo.parna@mail.ee>

    On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 12:02:59 -0800 (PST), Joe Chicago <levdtrotsky@mac.com> wrote:

    All I know about Finnish is that it is supposedly highly inflected, with 14
    cases,

    15, not 14. Estonian has 14 cases.

    which are a function of things like the gender of the person you're talking
    to.

    What gender? Gender is irrelevant.

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    virgo.parna@mail.ee


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  • From Joe Osman@1:2320/100 to Rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated on Mon Feb 3 08:38:02 2014
    Reminds me of the joke where Vanna White is asked her favorite consonant to which she replies "Australia".

    Joe
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  • From Joe Osman@1:2320/100 to Rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated on Mon Feb 3 08:40:02 2014
    My Russian teacher in college told us that no one speaks Finnish. The Finns make it up as thay go along.


    Joe
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