I don't think it has been unknown to Telegram users that Secret
Chat is the ONLY true E2EE channel.
And.. starting a Secret chat isn't "buried" so deep as has been
suggested. All that is required is to [1] tap on the user's
icon, [2] clink on the 3-dots, and [3] "Start Secret Chat" is
right there.
After 2 I don't see 3 in the menu options that are presented to me!?
After 2 I don't see 3 in the menu options that are presented to me!?
AH.. my guess is that you are trying to do that in the DT gui.
But secret chats are a mobile thing .: the feature is only
available from the phone app.
Hi August,
On 2024-09-17 08:07:00, you wrote to me:
AH.. my guess is that you are trying to do that in the DT gui.Indeed... I don't think that was mentioned in the articles?
But secret chats are a mobile thing .: the feature is only
available from the phone app.
Btw: My goto device is always my desktop for Telegram, it's much more convenient to use a real keyboard to type in messages! ;-)
I've sent you an invite for a secret chat.
Bye, Wilfred.
AH.. my guess is that you are trying to do that in the DT gui.
Btw: My goto device is always my desktop for
Telegram, it's much more convenient to use a real
keyboard to type in messages! ;-)
Well.. in the section entitled "Secret Chats / Q: How are secret
chats different?" of the FAQ, it states:
"All secret chats in Telegram are device-specific and are not part of the Telegram cloud. This means you can only access messages in a secret chat from
their device of origin.
They are safe for as long as your device is safe in your pocket."
So.. "in your pocket" would exclude a DT, I would presume. ?
So far I don't read it can't originate from the desktop app.
They are safe for as long as your device is safe in your
pocket." So.. "in your pocket" would exclude a DT, I
would presume. ?
Mwhoa... Indirect effidence. And for instance a raspberry
pi, is small enough to put in your pocket.
They are safe for as long as your device is safe in your
pocket." So.. "in your pocket" would exclude a DT, I
would presume. ?
Mwhoa... Indirect effidence. And for instance a raspberry
pi, is small enough to put in your pocket.
But doesn't a Pi need a wire running from it for a power
source?
And.. a Pi doesn't come equiped with a monitor and
keyboard for "mobile" use. ;) So.. it doesn't qualify as a
mobile device in the formal sense.
But doesn't a Pi need a wire running from it for a power
source?
So the secret chats are even safer if the device is
turned off and in your pocket! ;-)
So the secret chats are even safer if the device is
turned off and in your pocket! ;-)
Hmmm... now I think you are being too clever! :|
I am guessing that the parts regarding secret chat were written when Telegram first came out for portable phones.
What I find somewhat more mysterious in the FAQ is this:
"After the secure end-to-end connection has been established,
we generate a picture that visualizes the encryption key for
your chat. You can then compare this image with the one your
friend has - if the two images are the same, you can be sure
that the secret chat is secure, and no man-in-the-middle attack
can succeed."
I am not sure how to view that image, do you?
What I find somewhat more mysterious in the FAQ is this:
"After the secure end-to-end connection has been established,
we generate a picture that visualizes the encryption key for
your chat. You can then compare this image with the one your
friend has - if the two images are the same, you can be sure
that the secret chat is secure, and no man-in-the-middle attack
can succeed."
I am not sure how to view that image, do you?
But you have to be in each others neighbourhood to view/
compare it on each others phones.
I don't if it's secure to make a screenshot and share
that in the secret chat?
When you've established a secret chat with a contact, tap
their name or picture at the top of the screen to bring up
their contact info.
One of the options will be "Encryption Key" which you can
tap on to see the key and image.
But you have to be in each others neighbourhood to view/
compare it on each others phones.
Tg's choice of image type doesn't seem very useful to me. The pixelated-like image is too complex for easy comparison.
A better system might be the series of emojis that Session uses for verifying contacts.
I don't know if it's secure to make a screenshot and share
that in the secret chat?
Why not?
"After the secure end-to-end connection has been established,
we generate a picture that visualizes the encryption key for
your chat. You can then compare this image with the one your
friend has - if the two images are the same, you can be sure
that the secret chat is secure, and no man-in-the-middle attack
can succeed."
Besides, a secret chat can only be launched from an established
contact, so.. the chances are that it's the same person is
pretty high. :D So.. perhaps there is practically no point
in having the image comparison at all.
So.. you think the set of alphanumeric characters are the
actual encryption key that Tg uses? I thought it was just set
of chars for inperson verification/comparison purposes.
One of the options will be "Encryption Key" which you can
tap on to see the key and image.
So.. you think the set of alphanumeric characters are the
actual encryption key that Tg uses? I thought it was just set
of chars for inperson verification/comparison purposes.
From https://telegram.org/faq#secret-chats
"Newer versions of Telegram apps will show a larger
picture along with a textual representation of the key
(this is not the key itself, of course!) when both
participants are using an updated app."
Looks like it might be a fingerprint of the actual key.
Below the picture and sequence of hex numbers it says:
"This image and text were derived from the encryption
key..." So it's clear it's not the key itself!
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