Hi Stephen!

Sunday August 27 2023 10:34, you wrote to me:

This program sorts by the date messages was written in the JAM
messagebase. It can also clean up messages marked as deleted and in

How well does it handle things when the area's are in the main config
file?

Areas can be in any file. The main thing is to point the way to it.

I've now been able to run it. It just took a while... One thing I did notice is that when specifying an area it will find any area's with
those same words in it...

Command lime:

./maintjam.pl -a config -p doom

Area's it packed/sorted:
doom
alt.games.doom
this.is.doom.life

Yes. That's how it was intended. Apparently, I need to change it to a more familiar explicit indication of wildcards.

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi Tommi!

Saturday August 26 2023 14:45, you wrote to me:

However, it does renumber the messagebase, so it is useless with
jamnntpd. :(

That is how JAM is working.

There are programs which can pack and purge without renumbering. Fastecho and GEcho for example.

I know. That's why I made a utility for renumbering.

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi Stas.

04 Sep 23 09:22, you wrote to me:

There are programs which can pack and purge without renumbering.
Fastecho and GEcho for example.

I know. That's why I made a utility for renumbering.

So please add an option not to renumber in maintjam.pl. ;)

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi!

Monday September 04 2023 10:13, you wrote to me:

There are programs which can pack and purge without renumbering.
Fastecho and GEcho for example.

I know. That's why I made a utility for renumbering.

So please add an option not to renumber in maintjam.pl. ;)

How can I sort messages by date written without changing the numbers?

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi Stas.

06 Sep 23 09:55, you wrote to me:

There are programs which can pack and purge without renumbering.
Fastecho and GEcho for example.

I know. That's why I made a utility for renumbering.

So please add an option not to renumber in maintjam.pl. ;)

How can I sort messages by date written without changing the numbers?

I was talking about packing the jam base.

Sorting of course changes the numbers. :)

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi!

Wednesday September 06 2023 13:30, you wrote to me:

There are programs which can pack and purge without renumbering.
Fastecho and GEcho for example.

I know. That's why I made a utility for renumbering.

So please add an option not to renumber in maintjam.pl. ;)

How can I sort messages by date written without changing the numbers?

I was talking about packing the jam base.

Sorting of course changes the numbers. :)

The maintjam.pl is intended for sorting messages. Deleting of old and soft deleted messages is accompanying bonus.

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi Stas.

09 Sep 23 13:05:36, you wrote to me:

I was talking about packing the jam base.

Sorting of course changes the numbers. :)

The maintjam.pl is intended for sorting messages. Deleting of old and
soft deleted messages is accompanying bonus.

Hptutil can do all of this too. The real bonus would be a possibility NOT to renumber. :)

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi!

Monday September 11 2023 07:04, you wrote to me:

I was talking about packing the jam base.
Sorting of course changes the numbers. :)

The maintjam.pl is intended for sorting messages. Deleting of old and
soft deleted messages is accompanying bonus.

Hptutil can do all of this too.

In some cases it broke the JAM base. Probably it fixed now. It sorts only unread messages.

The real bonus would be a possibility NOT to renumber. :)

This is probably true. You're not the only one saying this.

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hello, Tommi!

Monday September 11 2023 07:04, from Tommi Koivula -> Stas Mishchenkov, in URL @OFGHIUrl:

The maintjam.pl is intended for sorting messages. Deleting of old
and soft deleted messages is accompanying bonus.

Hptutil can do all of this too. The real bonus would be a possibility
NOT to renumber. :)

Lemme guess, you are having a hard time with *smapinntpd* after purging your JAM bases? This guy (smapinntpd ) operates with the 'unique message ID' which is supposed to survive the database purging.

I raised this question in a Russian speaking echo conferences *ru.ftn.develop* and *ru.fidonet.today* about two weeks ago. We had a very interesting discussion with a few folks after which I realized that people think that the BaseMsgNum field in the JAM header should stay 1 all the time.

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On 11 Sep 2023 7.49, Stas Mishchenkov wrote:

Monday September 11 2023 07:04, you wrote to me:

I was talking about packing the jam base.
Sorting of course changes the numbers. :)

The maintjam.pl is intended for sorting messages. Deleting of old and
soft deleted messages is accompanying bonus.

Hptutil can do all of this too.

In some cases it broke the JAM base. Probably it fixed now.

I don't know about this, but I don't really use it 'in production'.

It sorts only unread messages.

I think this is the way it has to work, at least if the msgbase is used in a bbs with many users.

The real bonus would be a possibility NOT to renumber. :)

This is probably true. You're not the only one saying this.

Ok. I'll be waiting. ;)

'Tommi

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On 11 Sep 2023 7.43, Nil Alexandrov wrote:

Lemme guess, you are having a hard time with *smapinntpd* after
purging your JAM bases? This guy (smapinntpd ) operates with the
'unique message ID' which is supposed to survive the database
purging.

Actually I'm not having a hard time. I found this renumbering thing out long long time ago when I first stared using jamnntpd in my GEcho operated system.

Now in my linux husky system I simply don't purge/pack at all.

I raised this question in a Russian speaking echo conferences *ru.ftn.develop* and *ru.fidonet.today* about two weeks ago. We had
a very interesting discussion with a few folks after which I realized
that people think that the BaseMsgNum field in the JAM header should
stay 1 all the time.

Right. :)

In this msg area the first message has a number of 105. :)

'Tommi

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Hptutil can do all of this too.

BTW, Michael, could you add hptutil to the './build.sh' too?

'Tommi

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Hello, Tommi Koivula.
On 11/9/23 21:19 you wrote:

Hptutil can do all of this too.

BTW, Michael, could you add hptutil to the './build.sh' too?
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Hello Tommi,

Monday September 11 2023, Tommi Koivula wrote to Michael Dukelsky:

Hptutil can do all of this too.

BTW, Michael, could you add hptutil to the './build.sh' too?

Yes, I'll do it when I return from my vacation.

Michael

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Hello Stas!

06 Sep 23, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tommi Koivula:

How can I sort messages by date written without changing the numbers?

Hm... Sort them before they get numbers?

I'm still missing the good old OS/2 tool pktsort/2 of 1993.

It was not a 100% solution because of some people used Crosspoints annonymous time mode that set 00:00 daytime stamps and it failed with long transit time. But at least it was the most universal tool because it was not restriced to a specific msgbase format and was still very useful for daily usage to get the 400 new mails per echo in sequence.

Shivering... It's 30 years since...

Regards

Kai

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