• More Jesus lunacy...

    From Ross Sauer@1:2320/100 to All on Sun Sep 25 17:56:02 2011
    Once again the Jesus freaks have to have official government support for
    their own personal lunacy.

    Alabama Town: Church or Prison, your choice.

    Stacey Tallitsch

    Sun Sep 25, 2011 at 02:14:50 PM EST

    Starting next week, the program will allow a city judge to sentence
    misdemeanor offenders to work off their sentences in jail and pay a fine,
    or go to church every Sunday for a year. Offenders who select church can
    pick the place of worship but must check in weekly with the pastor and the police department. If the one-year church attendance program is completed successfully, the offender's case will be dismissed.

    The Alabama branch of the American Civil Liberties Union plans to send Bay Minette officials a letter demanding that they suspend the program. While
    the group says it supports alternative sentencing programs that save money,
    it believes the plan in Bay Minette violates the Constitution, state ACLU Executive Director Olivia Turner said in a statement.
    "But it is a fundamental principle of the Establishment Clause that the government cannot force someone to attend church," she said. "When the alternative to going to church is going to jail, the so-called `choice' available to offenders is no choice at all."

    City officials did not immediately return calls from The Associated Press.

    Pastor Robert Gates of Christian Life Church leads one of 56 congregations participating in the effort. He predicted it would succeed.

    "You show me somebody who falls in love with Jesus, and I'll show you a
    person who won't be a problem to society but that will be an influence and
    a help to those around them," he told the television station.

    http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/9/25/141450/867

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  • From Steve Kemp@1:2320/100 to Ross Sauer on Sun Oct 30 03:26:02 2011
    On 9/25/2011 2:44 PM, Ross Sauer -> All wrote:
    Once again the Jesus freaks have to have official government support for their own personal lunacy.

    Alabama Town: Church or Prison, your choice.

    Stacey Tallitsch

    Sun Sep 25, 2011 at 02:14:50 PM EST

    Starting next week, the program will allow a city judge to sentence misdemeanor offenders to work off their sentences in jail and pay a fine, or go to church every Sunday for a year. Offenders who select church can pick the place of worship but must check in weekly with the pastor and
    the
    police department. If the one-year church attendance program is completed successfully, the offender's case will be dismissed.

    The Alabama branch of the American Civil Liberties Union plans to send
    Bay
    Minette officials a letter demanding that they suspend the program. While the group says it supports alternative sentencing programs that save
    money,
    it believes the plan in Bay Minette violates the Constitution, state ACLU Executive Director Olivia Turner said in a statement.
    "But it is a fundamental principle of the Establishment Clause that the government cannot force someone to attend church," she said. "When the alternative to going to church is going to jail, the so-called `choice' available to offenders is no choice at all."

    City officials did not immediately return calls from The Associated
    Press.

    Pastor Robert Gates of Christian Life Church leads one of 56
    congregations
    participating in the effort. He predicted it would succeed.

    "You show me somebody who falls in love with Jesus, and I'll show you a person who won't be a problem to society but that will be an influence
    and
    a help to those around them," he told the television station.

    http://www.talk2action.org/story/2011/9/25/141450/867

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    No disrespect intended, I've always appreciated your forwarding of your "nEWS stuff" to here...but after reading the new rules (new to me) all I've got to say is that it seems that your kind of offerings are all that will be permitted any more.

    Quote this or that, but don't dare say anything!

    Used to be that you were laughed at for factuality, now no one can say anything.

    No wonder there isn't any traffic! YOW!

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    Yep, I'm the Atheist. I'm chock full of Ath!

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  • From Allen Prunty@1:2320/100 to Ross Sauer on Mon May 23 03:42:02 2016
    Ross Sauer wrote to All <=-

    Starting next week, the program will allow a city judge to sentence misdemeanor offenders to work off their sentences in jail and pay a
    fine, or go to church every Sunday for a year. Offenders who select
    church can pick the place of worship but must check in weekly with the pastor and the police department. If the one-year church attendance program is completed successfully, the offender's case will be
    dismissed.

    This seems like something that would totally violate the separation of
    Church and state. As a former LEO, I don't understan why it would be up
    to the police department to enforce this? If this was the case I would
    see if they had a local Unitarian Church to attend? I wonder if they
    picked the Hindu Temple as their place of worship if that would fly...
    or the local Mosque.

    You can't legislate morality... every time it's tried it fails!

    The Alabama branch of the American Civil Liberties Union plans to send
    Bay Minette officials a letter demanding that they suspend the program.

    I wonder how successfult that was?

    City officials did not immediately return calls from The Associated Press.

    Working for City government her in Louisville, KY this is no surprise.

    Wow... I don't know how I missed this one.

    Allen

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  • From Earl Croasmun@1:2320/100 to Allen Prunty on Sun May 29 18:50:02 2016
    Ross Sauer wrote to All <=-

    Starting next week, the program will allow a city judge to sentence
    misdemeanor offenders to work off their sentences in jail and pay a
    fine, or go to church every Sunday for a year. Offenders who select

    Ross won't be getting back to you on this one. He has been gone for a couple of years or more.

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