Hey Alan!

In both cases there is a fatal error early in the build of
cryptlib because it fails to find cryptlib.

find shows it located in ./3rdp/src/cl/cryptlib.h.

It says no such file or directory. I wonder why it's failing
here?

Not sure but it might be something to do with your path. See COMPILNG in the syncterm directory of the source. It mentions setting up SRC_ROOT in the commandline. I didn't have to do that here and simply switched to the directory ./syncterm-20230302/src/syncterm/ and run make. Also I haven't bothered installing it anywhere.

Life is good,
Maurice

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It says no such file or directory. I wonder why it's failing
here?

Not sure but it might be something to do with your path. See COMPILNG in the syncterm directory of the source. It mentions setting up SRC_ROOT in the commandline. I didn't have to do that here and simply switched to the directory ./syncterm-20230302/src/syncterm/ and run make. Also I haven't bothered installing it anywhere.

I moved my /etc/profile out of the way and then it built fine. Something in there (I'm not sure what) was stepping on us.

The above version did, the 1.1 version got past the cryptlib.h issue but failed to build syncterm further on. I'm not sure why.

It doesn't run here but I'll see if I can massage that some other time. ;)

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Hey Alan!

It doesn't run here but I'll see if I can massage that some other
time. ;)

Sounds like a plan.

Personally I don't have a use/need for it and the below bothers me enough to call it a day;

:r !ls -alh ~/WeBeBashing/source/syncterm-20230302/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug/syncterm
-rwxr-xr-x 1 maurice users 4.9M Mar 2 11:40 /home/maurice/WeBeBashing/source/syncterm-20230302/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug/syncterm

:r !ls -alh /usr/bin/telnet
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 139K Mar 1 04:34 /usr/bin/telnet

Hm ... over 4.8M just to get zmodem?!?!?!?! ;-)

It ain't gonna happen.

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Hm ... over 4.8M just to get zmodem?!?!?!?! ;-)

Strip it!

It's only useful if you have a use for it.

But if you need a terminal syncterm is a good one. A lot of BBSs are very retro. They still use a lot of cp437 encoded ansi. Syncterm can present them as expected even on a utf8 terminal.

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Hey Alan!

Strip it!

It is/was. Here is the evidence;

:r !file ~/WeBeBashing/source/syncterm-20230302/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug/syncterm | sed 's/^/ /'
/home/maurice/WeBeBashing/source/syncterm-20230302/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug/syncterm: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 4.14.0, stripped

Note the "stripped" at the end of the line.

A lot of BBSs are very retro.

You forgot to mention "hotbeds of activity". :::wink, wink, knudge, knudge:::

telnet works okay and runs beautifully on the linux terminal along with framebuffered mplayer playing a full screen 4K mp4, all without requiring a gui. BUT if using a gui then "mplayer -vo vdpau -fs 16penguins.mp4" is something to write home to mother about.

Remember you read it here first.

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Maurice

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Strip it!

It is/was. Here is the evidence;

OK, I guess that's the best we can do.

A lot of BBSs are very retro.

You forgot to mention "hotbeds of activity". :::wink, wink, knudge, knudge:::

They were at one time. When I first started BBSing that was "online". Times have changed. Significantly, but I am still a BBSer.

telnet works okay and runs beautifully on the linux terminal along with framebuffered mplayer playing a full screen 4K mp4, all without requiring a gui. BUT if using a gui then "mplayer -vo vdpau -fs 16penguins.mp4" is something to write home to mother about.

I just realized the other day that vlc has an ncurses interface but I have never tried it. I played some music with it but didn't have any movie files to try at the time.

I'm going to have to get mplayer installed and try it out on the console.

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Hey Alan!

OK, I guess that's the best we can do.

Nope. It doesn't even come close to the worst terminal /usr/share/terminfo/ has to offer which means by default ANYTHING native to that will be better. Also I'd add that /usr/share/terminfo/l/linux *IS* the best no matter what. Thus what I am currently using to reply to you *IS* the best we can do.

When I first started BBSing that was "online".

Understood. My first login to a BBS was from a VAX/VMS dumb terminal rlogin to a geology library running a BBS as a frontend to the library's database. That was sometime around 1989-ish if I am not mistaken. Later it was farmed out to the horticultural department and they turned it into the first fidonet BBS I ever saw. It worked great. I don't recall the vt deployed by the dumb terminal but I bet it is more retro than anything the DOS-think sysops are even aware of.

Speaking of which;

:r !find /usr/share/terminfo -type f | wc -l | sed 's/^/ /'
2869

I just realized the other day that vlc has an ncurses interface
but I have never tried it.

I did but haven't for about 20 years now. I plan to add it into the mix soon.

I'm going to have to get mplayer installed and try it out on the
console.

I'd like to see that on your nvidia setup. It should work excellent on there using the fbdev2 video output. I've personally tested it with i915drmfb and amdgpu.

Too much fun.

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I'd like to see that on your nvidia setup. It should work excellent on there using the fbdev2 video output. I've personally tested it with i915drmfb and amdgpu.

I had a quick look at installing the nvidia drivers but it failed for some reason. My nvidia card is not old but it is considered "legacy" by nvidia. It uses the nvidia-legacy-390 package.

It works well on my slackware setup with the 5.18.* kernel that ships with slackware-15.0. One day I am going to ask for advice from the LFS group and see if they can help me get that working. I think my chances are about 50/50 but I'll see what I can come up with.

Aside from that I think there's a pretty good chance it would work with the nouveau driver that I am using now.

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Hey Alan!

Aside from that I think there's a pretty good chance it would work
with the nouveau driver that I am using now.

If you are now getting boot penguins on there then for sure mplayer will cooperate with the fbdev2 video output that should now associate with the kernel's nouveau driver that you are now using. You are pretty well much there whether or not you are aware of exactly where you are.

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Maurice

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