In a message on 02-26-19 Sean Dennis said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Sean,

BTW, what happened to my query about ArcaOS and eCS comparison when

I replied; did you ever get it?

Nope :o(

I was having issues with my feed for a while but I switched.

OK.

CU AGN, Sam, OH0NC

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On 2019-02-27 13:42:00 +0000, Holger Granholm -> Sean Dennis said:

HG> BTW, what happened to my query about ArcaOS and eCS comparison when

I too would be interested, as I have debated about getting ArcaOS setup here, and compile my BBS and tools over to it... since there are OS/2 systems still running.

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In a message on 03-12-19 Ozz Nixon said to Holger Granholm:

On 2019-02-27 13:42:00 +0000, Holger Granholm -> Sean Dennis said:

HG> BTW, what happened to my query about ArcaOS and eCS comparison when

Hello Ozz,

I did never receive a reply from Sean. He was happily running eCS and I
wanted to know why he was considering a change to ArcaOS.

I too would be interested, as I have debated about getting ArcaOS
setup here, and compile my BBS and tools over to it... since there
are OS/2 systems still running.

As far as I'm concerned, I have been looking at both alternatives and
find eCS preferable because it supports all the programmes I'm using
with my present system.

Also it supports WiFi which ArcaOS doesn't. That is a necessity to me.


Have a nice day,

Holger


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Hello Holger.

13 Mar 19 08:53, you wrote to Ozz Nixon:

I did never receive a reply from Sean. He was happily running eCS and
I wanted to know why he was considering a change to ArcaOS.

I sent a message to you twice and you acked the second one.

Simply put, I can do a hell of a lot more with ArcaOS. I ran eCS for about two
days and removed it, going back to Warp 4.52. eCS was junk. ArcaOS is much better but it's definitely a resource hog on my old NetVista.

Later,
Sean

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In a message on 03-16-19 Sean Dennis said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Sean,

I sent a message to you twice and you acked the second one.

Simply put, I can do a hell of a lot more with ArcaOS. I ran eCS
for about two days and removed it, going back to Warp 4.52. eCS was
junk. ArcaOS is much better but it's definitely a resource hog on
my old NetVista.

Thank you for this message. Honestly I have never received the earlier.

I don't know why but the message flow via the echoes I am connected to
on the Fidonet has been extremely poor, to the point that I'm almost
ready to quit.

The only thing keeping this BBS still alive is the distribution of the
ARRL, swedish and finnish bulletins. Also my correspondence with Maurice
in the LINUX echo has been very satisfying.

Also I thank you for the comparison between ArcaOS and eCS.

The thing that has made me considering eCS is that ArcaOS doesn't
support WiFi which is essential to me.

Also eCS is promising full support of older OS/2 applications which
makes life easier.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

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Hello Holger.

17 Mar 19 15:45, you wrote to me:

The thing that has made me considering eCS is that ArcaOS doesn't
support WiFi which is essential to me.

There is actually experimental support. However, as always, these are just OS/2 wrappers around Windows drivers.

Also eCS is promising full support of older OS/2 applications which
makes life easier.

ArcaOS has that also. There's a single DOS application that I have that won't work right with JFS but that's not a big deal.

I am considering going back to Warp 4.52 for the BBS. ArcaOS just has too much
overhead and the BBS runs slower than I like. Until my hand heals, though, the
BBS is staying put.

Later,
Sean

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Just found this from the NewEgg email message of the cost of Windows 10 Pro
at the regular price. ArcaOS is $129.00 for the personal version/$229 for the pro version.

https://tinyurl.com/ute2t8e

Started laughing...

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Re: ArcaOS
By: Don Lowery to All on Sat Mar 07 2020 01:15:31

Just found this from the NewEgg email message of the cost of Windows
10 Pro at the regular price.

and that's the OEM version so no support from m$ on it... the full retail version is like $200US...


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Yes windows seems more expensive for sure, however their updates are free. I love OS/2 and I am about to pull the trigger anyday now (just waiting for the machine) so once you add the annual fee of OS/2, if you run it a while it
will be the most expensive out of all OS's. It is truly the only thing that bothers me, is paying for patches and bug fixes, I know you get enhancements and such but u know...

Also I am still looking for help with an offline reader if anyone has one
they really like, but I need detailed setup instructions since whacking my
head in 2012.

Regards,

Rick

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and that's the OEM version so no support from m$ on it... the full retail version is like $200US...

Some things never change with MS. When they started "giving" away Windows 10
a few years ago...reminds me how drug dealers get ya hooked.

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Re: Re: ArcaOS
By: Don Lowery to mark lewis on Sun Mar 08 2020 22:38:12

and that's the OEM version so no support from m$ on it... the full
retail version is like $200US...

Some things never change with MS. When they started "giving" away
Windows 10 a few years ago...reminds me how drug dealers get ya hooked.

exactly... beauty is only skin deep... the horrifying ugly goes all the way to the core...


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Some things never change with MS. When they started "giving" away Windows 10 a few years ago...reminds me how drug dealers get ya hooke

exactly... beauty is only skin deep... the horrifying ugly goes all the way to the core...

True!

Just got news from g00r00 that he put up a version of Mystic for OS/2 with
the easy stuff running...but the hard stuff is still needing a lot of work.
He doesn't know when he'll get a chance to have it go into full production
for those like myself.

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Just got news from g00r00 that he put up a version of Mystic for OS/2
with the easy stuff running...but the hard stuff is still needing a lot
of work. He doesn't know when he'll get a chance to have it go into full production for those like myself.

Am on the BBS system where I have the link for the prealphas for Mystic.
Here's the link if you would like to get it to take a look:

http://www.mysticbbs.com/downloads/prealpha/

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Hello Rick.

07 Mar 20 08:47, you wrote to mark lewis:

Yes windows seems more expensive for sure, however their updates are
free.

No, they're not free. They are supported by billions of business computers running Windows. Many seem to neglect that ArcaOS is very much a niche OS. R&D
doesn't come for free and nor does the amazingly complicated process of porting
*NIX applications over to ArcaOS.

With a subscription, you are guarenteeing (sp) support for an OS that has 1/10000th of the userbase that Windows has...

...but remember, today's Windows wouldn't exist without OS/2.

Later,
Sean

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Hello Don.

09 Mar 20 22:20, you wrote to mark lewis:

Just got news from g00r00 that he put up a version of Mystic for OS/2
with the easy stuff running...but the hard stuff is still needing a
lot of work. He doesn't know when he'll get a chance to have it go
into full production for those like myself.

I was told he used my OS/2 Virtualbox machine I put up on my website for that.

I don't know if it's true or not but if it is, I'm happy to help.

Later,
Sean

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With a subscription, you are guarenteeing (sp) support for an OS that has 1/10000th of the userbase that Windows has...

Dont get me wrong I want to go back to os/2 in the worst way just waiting
until its a little further along hardware wise..

Rick

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lot of work. He doesn't know when he'll get a chance to have it go into full production for those like myself.

I was told he used my OS/2 Virtualbox machine I put up on my website for that.

Didn't know that...but that image has helped quite a few...including myself...to make the leap.

I don't know if it's true or not but if it is, I'm happy to help.

Got to play around with it for a couple of hours. Imported my system over & gave it a whirl. Messaging doesn't work on it...nor the mailer part...but it looked & acted just like my Windows/RPi version.

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I was told he used my OS/2 Virtualbox machine I put up on my website for that.

Sean,
If someone wanted to run an OS/2 BBS on a linux box, do you think it would
be feasible to do with a virtualbox session? Does the box have to have hardware that OS/2 supports, or does virtualbox handle all of that?

Thanks!
Mike


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Sean Dennis wrote to Don Lowery <=-

Just got news from g00r00 that he put up a version of Mystic for OS/2
with the easy stuff running...but the hard stuff is still needing a
lot of work. He doesn't know when he'll get a chance to have it go
into full production for those like myself.

I was told he used my OS/2 Virtualbox machine I put up on my website
for that.

I don't know if it's true or not but if it is, I'm happy to help.

The copy I downloaded pretty much had everything compiled into .EXE
with the exception of MIS.EXE.


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Just got news from g00r00 that he put up a version of Mystic for OS/2 with the easy stuff running...but the hard stuff is still needing a lot of work. He doesn't know when he'll get a chance to have it go into full production for those like myself.

The copy I downloaded pretty much had everything compiled into .EXE
with the exception of MIS.EXE.

Yep. The config of the server isn't functional yet...but using JAM messaging software already available for OS/2...would you be able to using the
messaging part of the software? Getting BinkD...would you be able to get the messages & such to the hubs?

Just thinking out loud for a way to make the software usable by other
methods.

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Rick Smith wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Dont get me wrong I want to go back to os/2 in the worst way just
waiting until its a little further along hardware wise..

Don't hold your breath. To be very honest, once they get UEFI and USB 3.0 support in, there may not be too much more to be done to ArcaOS. I don't
think that it will be possible to port ArcaOS to 64 bit due to licensing
issues with IBM and Microsoft.

But, for what -can- be done, Arca Noae and others are trying very hard to do the best they can within the rather narrow parameters they have to work
with.

Later,
Sean

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Don Lowery wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Didn't know that...but that image has helped quite a few...including myself...to make the leap.

I have that image set up on my laptop (that I'm on now). I have Turbo
Pascal 7, Virtual Pascal 2.1b279, and Free Pascal 3.0.4 setup for
development purposes.

Later,
Sean

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Mike Powell wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

If someone wanted to run an OS/2 BBS on a linux box, do you think it
would be feasible to do with a virtualbox session? Does the box have
to have hardware that OS/2 supports, or does virtualbox handle all of that?

I have an OS/2 Warp 4.52 image working just fine under Virtualbox on my
laptop that I'm using right now with Devuan Linux 64-bit. No issues. VB handles all of the hardware abstractions.

Later,
Sean

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Didn't know that...but that image has helped quite a few...including myself...to make the leap.

I have that image set up on my laptop (that I'm on now). I have Turbo Pascal 7, Virtual Pascal 2.1b279, and Free Pascal 3.0.4 setup for development purposes.

Very nice! Take it easy & stay safe!

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Mike Powell wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

If someone wanted to run an OS/2 BBS on a linux box, do you think it would be feasible to do with a virtualbox session? Does the box have to have hardware that OS/2 supports, or does virtualbox handle all of that?

I have an OS/2 Warp 4.52 image working just fine under Virtualbox on my laptop that I'm using right now with Devuan Linux 64-bit. No issues. VB handles all of the hardware abstractions.

Sean,
Thanks. Does that include allowing OS/2 to assign a drive letter to a drive that is mounted NFS by the linux system VB is running on top of?

Mike
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On 19 Mar 2020, Don Lowery said the following...

Yep. The config of the server isn't functional yet...but using JAM messaging software already available for OS/2...would you be able to
using the messaging part of the software? Getting BinkD...would you be able to get the messages & such to the hubs?

Yes, and yes. Especially if you use the filebox feature of Mystic. As far
as picking up incoming telnet connections, that's another story.

Just thinking out loud for a way to make the software usable by other methods.

Nothing wrong with that. :)

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Yep. The config of the server isn't functional yet...but using JAM messaging software already available for OS/2...would you be able to using the messaging part of the software? Getting BinkD...would you b able to get the messages & such to the hubs?

Yes, and yes. Especially if you use the filebox feature of Mystic. As far as picking up incoming telnet connections, that's another story.

Never bothered to look into it...more than thinking out loud about it. With TG/2 already running JAM bases & fully functional...will be going with that until a version of Mystic might come out for OS/2.

Just thinking out loud for a way to make the software usable by other methods.

Nothing wrong with that. :)

Not being a programmer & with my plate full with TG/2-FE 1.60-DB 4 to get running...it seems like that's all I'm doing now AND lovin' it!

Have got an issue that has been biting my behind for a while now. Have been trying to get SIO 1.60/SIO2K setup according to the dox with the software.
Have gotten SIO to give me 4 ports with a virtual modem...but it says COM1 - N/A IRQ - N/A Virtual Modem ***** for COM 1-4. That's a major battle itself. Here's how I have the CONFIG.SYS setup at SIO.SYS (COM1, INTERNET:3F8, NONE,
4, -)

This has been bugging me to death...especially since TG/2 tries to init the ports...but keeps trying over & over.

Any suggestions...that will be the biggest part of the battle to get the
whole shooting match running.

Thanks!

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Greetings,

I have my arca running on a thinkpad, I am having trouble with dos windows. When I open one it just sits there no command prompt? Anyone else run into this? Fix?

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Rick // Nitro

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I have my arca running on a thinkpad, I am having trouble with dos windows. When I open one it just sits there no command prompt? Anyone else run into this? Fix?

It is a known issue with Arca. Arca Noae knows about it & is working on a solution. It is part of the issue with me running a BBS with it with any DOS software. Running all OS/2 software natively doesn't give you this issue.

One way around it is to open a DOS full-screen. When you have done so...press ALT-HOME & you will get a DOS Window.

Know it's not a permanent solution...but for now...it will work.

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OK, I get the W.Coyote reference, but who is D. Brown ? :)

Mike


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OK, I get the W.Coyote reference, but who is D. Brown ? :)

Ever watch Mrs. Brown's Boys from BBC? D. Brown is her favorite son who wears costumes with ACME on them.

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Ever watch Mrs. Brown's Boys from BBC? D. Brown is her favorite son who wears costumes with ACME on them.

Best show ever!

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Rick // Nitro

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Ever watch Mrs. Brown's Boys from BBC? D. Brown is her favorite son who wears costumes with ACME on them.

I think you have told me that before. :D I need to watch that one.

Mike


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Ever watch Mrs. Brown's Boys from BBC? D. Brown is her favorite son w wears costumes with ACME on them.

Best show ever!

Almost died from laughter when she got the downstairs bathroom & tried to do the Brazilian wax. Had to rewind it because my eyes were shut during the
scene from laughing/crying at the same time.

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