For your analogy to work, that would
mean I was legal when I registered to
vote but became illegal right before I
voted.

Here's a better one:

It's your 21st birthday and you show ID at a busy liquor store to buy a bottle of rum.

10 months later, you come back into the store to buy another bottle but without your ID, expecting the clerk to remember your face from 10 months ago.

"Remember me? I bought that bottle of rum. I was wearing a rainbow colored t-shirt. Don't you dare ask me for my ID again."

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

"Missing the point" is leftist stealth move. They miss the point, then when I try to correct them, they have a "we already discussed that" attitude.

Ya, it's a deflection. He's wrong, so he wants to redirect the discussion to another point that he thinks he might be able to be right about (but probably not).

I need to add "Missing the point" to the official leftist procedures manual, along with a tagline of "It's so stupid, it's smart."

Do you ever feel that lefties live in Opposite World?


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Max Stubbs <=-

I did something to harm people, and now I'm shifting the blame onto my victims? And MAGA people do this all the time? You got some splainin to do.

It's called "projection" and the Lefties do it all the time.

"Accuse your opponent of what YOU do." Right out of Saul Alinsky's playbook.


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I need to add "Missing the point" to the official leftist procedures manual, along with a tagline of "It's so stupid, it's smart."

Do you ever feel that lefties live in Opposite World?

That's how they want us to feel, but they are the ones who are backwards.

I was at a school meeting yesterday and the leftists said "we hire school resource officers to form relationships with the students, and for safety." When I corrected them by saying "We only hire them for safety, not to form relationships," they all started hissing at me exactly like snakes would if you tore the roof off their den.

Imagine calling 911, and when they say "What's your emergency?" you tell them "I'm a teenager and I need to form a relationship with an officer."

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On 01 Apr 2026, Max Stubbs said the following...

So by all means, cheer for yourself.
You did it. But what did YOU gain? You
beat the trannies, the immigrants, the
blue hairs, the gays, the Joses and the
Shaniquas of America to make room for
the the "right" people.

Let me know when it brings a smile to
your face and the resentment stops.

You missed my point, and I think you missed what DEI is.

My point... Simple... I cannot change what policies were 100 years ago.

100 years ago families were slightly different that today... Men worked out of the house, women ran the house and the family.

Today you you need 2 people working, if you want.

MLK, fought foe EQUAL rights, not special rights.

My arguments are similar. I think man or woman, light or dark skin, y'all should have the same opportunities. Hard work with great ideas and you'll prosper.

This is an argument of equality.

Your argument is Equity... Equity is the E in the DEI phrase.

Equality is giving someone, non-deserving, a position because she/they/them had a vagina and that vagina was darker because they/them are darker.

Not because they/them went to school and worked at their studies and was accomplish in their field of expertise. No, just because they had a vagina.

Other more accomplished people missed out because dark vagina person made it in because of DEI.

Equity looks at the outcome of things... Doesn't matter how hard you work, study and come up with great ideas... Dark Vagina person wins.

Maybe 100 years ago more women may have risen to the top... maybe... but in 2026 you can study and work hard and be all you want to be...

Today you don't need Equity you just need Equality. A female or male, regardless of who applies, gets in based on their merit and skills.

I want to see a fully qualified Doctor, regardless of their gender or hair color.

You on the other hand would like to see a DEI Doctor who got their job based on their vagina and not their skills.

Go to they/them.

I just believe in merit.

BTW, I was at one time a migrant to the US. I entered legally, filed all the paperwork legally and have NEVER asked the US government for nothing.

If I didn't have enough money to eat I did without. I paid my rent/mortgage or any debt before I did things for myself. I was not a burden on the system or other people.

If you go and invent the next biggest and best thing, do it, and I'll say great job.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

I was at a school meeting yesterday and the leftists said "we hire
school resource officers to form relationships with the students, and
for safety." When I corrected them by saying "We only hire them for safety, not to form relationships," they all started hissing at me
exactly like snakes would if you tore the roof off their den.

That's because you committed the crime of Wrong-Think and went against their false Narrative.

It's becomming almost cliche now when dealing with Leftie bots.


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IB Joe wrote to Max Stubbs <=-

You missed my point, and I think you missed what DEI is.

He didn't miss your point. Rather he consciously ignored you point because it violated his false Narrative.

100 years ago families were slightly different that today... Men
worked out of the house, women ran the house and the family.

Today you you need 2 people working, if you want.

Mostly due to the "entitlement" programs and massive fraud (especially today).

MLK, fought foe EQUAL rights, not special rights.

Remember that in Max's delusion, all white people get special rights. So in his mind (what, about 32K or RAM?) "equal rights" = "the mytical special rights white people have".

My arguments are similar. I think man or woman, light or dark skin,
y'all should have the same opportunities. Hard work with great ideas
and you'll prosper.

But that's Meritocracy. The Left is opposed to that because they are all stupid, worthless people only fit to be baristas (who don't strike) or floor cleaners.

If you go and invent the next biggest and best thing, do it, and I'll
say great job.

The problem is that he's not capable. He's not capable of even getting a job that would pay enough so he could move out of his mom's basement.

So like a good Marxist, he wants to take what successful people have made calling it "compassion", or "equity", etc. so that he can have enough money.


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I was at a school meeting yesterday and the leftists said "we hire school resource officers to form relationships with the students, and for safety." When I corrected them by saying "We only hire them for safety, not to form relationships," they all started hissing at me exactly like snakes would if you tore the roof off their den.

That's because you committed the crime of Wrong-Think and went against their false Narrative.

That's true. The other people at the meeting were all school employees (worker bees) who will do anything to defend the superintendent (queen bee.)

In a hive, there's no memo system with notes that say "The queen was wrong about something."

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

That's true. The other people at the meeting were all school employees (worker bees) who will do anything to defend the superintendent (queen bee.)

In a hive, there's no memo system with notes that say "The queen was
wrong about something."

One of the YouTube channels I listen to is called "Liberal Hivemind" because it's so true.

That's why I simply don't interact with any drones I encounter anymore. It's not worth it. They can't think for themselves and since they are all programmed, you know what they are going to say/do before they actually do it.


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That's why I simply don't interact with any drones I encounter anymore. It's not worth it. They can't think for themselves and since they are
all programmed, you know what they are going to say/do before they actually do it.

On Fidonet I talk to them, but in real life I avoid them. Just today a lady tried to talk me about the "high gas prices" but I didn't want to stir anything up so I was just like "Yea, it's expensive." So I dodged it, but of course it bothers me that people care more about gas prices that they do about nuclear safety and/or 7,000 dead Iranian civilians.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

On Fidonet I talk to them, but in real life I avoid them.

That's probably for the best. The Left is getting even more violent.

stir anything up so I was just like "Yea, it's expensive." So I dodged
it, but of course it bothers me that people care more about gas prices that they do about nuclear safety and/or 7,000 dead Iranian civilians.

That's the standard Socialist redirection.

Make them focus on some, usually minor, problem and not the big problems that the Elitists are causing.


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stir anything up so I was just like "Yea, it's expensive." So I dodge it, but of course it bothers me that people care more about gas price that they do about nuclear safety and/or 7,000 dead Iranian civilians

That's the standard Socialist redirection.

Make them focus on some, usually minor, problem and not the big problems that the Elitists are causing.

Yea, it's not the old lady's fault, it's the people who are programming her incorrectly. This is one of the rare occasions where the world news is actually necessary for the message of "The Iranians are blocking oil shipments," but the media knows that it's easier to program "Trump bad, gas prices high."

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Yea, it's not the old lady's fault, it's the people who are programming her incorrectly. This is one of the rare occasions where the world news
is actually necessary for the message of "The Iranians are blocking oil shipments," but the media knows that it's easier to program "Trump bad, gas prices high."

Well, the Propaganda Ministry has already laid the groundwork by fostering TDS, so "Trump bad" is an easy sell for them.


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Re: Re: MTG
By: Aaron Thomas to Max Stubbs on Wed Apr 01 2026 01:29 pm

It's your 21st birthday and you show
at a busy liquor store to buy a bott
of rum.

10 months later, you come back into
store to buy another bottle but with
your ID, expecting the clerk to
remember your face from 10 months ag

"Remember me? I bought that bottle o
rum. I was wearing a rainbow colored
t-shirt. Don't you dare ask me for m
ID again."

This is a much better analogy, I will
grant you. However the issue is tht
your state does still have methods of
voter ID that are more reasonable and
don't place burden on the voter. For
example, New York has signature
matching and electronic pollbooks.

So in your scenario, the equivalent
would be a liquor store that has a
record of your signature, where you
live, and can look up your records on
the spot if they don't remember you.
Plus, since you used your signature as
an ID, it cost you nothing beyond your
initial registration.

See, MAGA is operating under the
assumption that someone like me thinks
all ID is bad and that is not the case.
I, and people just like me, just don't
trust the government and we know, from
looking at how votin was conducted
nationwide from 1865-onwards, that this
is yet another tactic to sound
reasonable while actually introducing
redundant and random hurdle to bleed
off voters in the margins that would
otherwise vote. I'm a southerner, we
were the masters of fuckin over the
voter by using poll taxes, ID laws,
grandfather clauses, obfuscating
deadline for the above, and competence
quizzes. This is the same thing now as
it was then.

You're MAGA. You don't trust the
government, I would presume. What would
you do if New York was 100% going
republican at the next election, and
the Dems introduced some new ID law
that you knew was gonna be hard for
your 80 year old republican Puerto
Rican neighbor to get done because he
was born at a rural hospital back in
the day and didn't have a valid birth
certificate, but was a US citizen, but
was also broke as fuck?

This is a rel scenario btw. My
Grandfather before he died was one such
person; no one, not even him, knew when
he was born and it was not documented.
All that was known was that we has born
at some point in the 30s in San Juan.

Still a US citizen, still has the right
to vote (well, when he was alive
anyhow.) In your state he could
exercise his vote. Under your rules, if
implemented directly before an election
like the Republicans want to do,
someone like him would miss the
election sorting out their paperwork.
They'd be good by the next one, sure,
but they'd have missed the one the
Republicans wanted him to miss.

Notice these laws never get pushed in
between elections, only right before
ones that the GOP thinks they'll lose.























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Re: Re: MTG
By: Ron L. to Aaron Thomas on Thu Apr 02 2026 07:01 am

Do you ever feel that lefties live i
Opposite World?

We live in the same America you do. The
issue is that you cats would rathr I
inhabit a jail for my speech than
coexist with me in the country I
served. Then when you get pushback yo
can't accept that maybe you not only
don't have the only opinion, but your
opinion may not be the absolute
unquestioned truth.


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Re: Re: MTG
By: Ron L. to Aaron Thomas on Thu Apr 02 2026 07:01 am

It's called "projection" and the
Lefties do it all the time.

"Accuse your opponent of what YOU do
Right out of Saul Alinsky's playbook

I'm fairly certain that not only does
your party do this more than anyone
else, but that your president has been
noted as saying he specifically does
this, and in addition to that, his
mentor Roy Cohn ALSO said that tht is
how he operates.

Which, to be fair, is at least them
using their own advice. Gotta admire
that bit of ideological coherence.




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Re: Re: MTG
By: Aaron Thomas to Ron L. on Thu Apr 02 2026 06:58 am

I need to add "Missing the
point" to the official
leftist procedures manual,
along with a tagline of "I
so stupid, it's smart."

Do you ever feel that lefties l
in Opposite World?

That's how they want us to feel, but
they are the ones who are backwards.

I was at a school meeting yesterday
the leftists said "we hire school
resource officers to form relationsh
with the students, and for safety."
When I corrected them by saying "We
only hire them for safety, not to fo
relationships," they all started
hissing at me exactly like snakes wo
if you tore the roof off their den.

Imagine calling 911, and when they s
"What's your emergency?" you tell th
"I'm a teenager and I need to form a
relationship with an officer."

I would think that the school cop
knowing who the kid are, which ones are
bad eggs and aren't, etc, would be part
of the job. You know: formin a
relationship. I won't pretend to know
how your meeting went but I would think
you at least want the school cop to
know which kid is most likely to be a
school shooter and which ones are
harmless.


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Re: Re: MTG
By: IB Joe to Max Stubbs on Thu Apr 02 2026 04:57 pm

MLK, fought foe EQUAL rights, not
special rights.

You are aware I assume that MLK Jr. was
a socialist and was shifting from his
civil rights work to arguing for
socialism when he was killed. Just
putting that out there.


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Re: Re: MTG
By: Ron L. to IB Joe on Fri Apr 03 2026 07:30 am

The problem is that he's not capable
He's not capable of even getting a j
that would pay enough so he could mo
out of his mom's basement.

You really need to stop inventing
magical non-existent people. I make a
fine living, I've served my country,
and I live a great life, albeit one
beset by the usual problems any
American is encountering these days.
If you had something to actually say
you'd be able to engage the ideas
instead of inventing things to be mad
at not based in reality.

But hey, if you like rollin around in
your filth-ball of self-loathing and
misery, far be it for me to kink shame
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Re: Re: MTG
By: Ron L. to Aaron Thomas on Sat Apr 04 2026 08:19 am

Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <

That's true. The other people a
the meeting were all school
employees (worker bees) who wil
do anything to defend the
superintendent (queen bee.)

In a hive, there's no memo syst
with notes that say "The queen
wrong about something."

One of the YouTube channels I listen
is called "Liberal Hivemind" because
it's so true.

That's why I simply don't interact w
any drones I encounter anymore. It'
not worth it. They can't think for
themselves and since they are all
programmed, you know what they are
going to say/do before they actually
it.

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It never occurred to you that a channel
calld Liberal Hivemind probably isn't
going to give you objective reality, I
see.


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Re: Re: MTG
By: Ron L. to Aaron Thomas on Sun Apr 05 2026 08:50 am

That's the standard Socialist
redirection.

Make them focus on some, usually min
problem and not the big problems tha
the Elitists are causing.

Horseshit. Your boy was the one who
claimed he would lower prices and not
do new wars. Now that he has blatantly
failed to do so, y'all are coping about
it hard as a motherfucker. It's not a
left wing misdirect, it's a Trump
failure.

One that the left (the real left, not
the Kamala centrists) absolutely said
was going to happen.



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Re: Re: MTG
By: Aaron Thomas to Ron L. on Sun Apr 05 2026 02:01 pm

"The Iranians are blocking oil
shipments," but the media knows that
it's easier to program "Trump bad, g
prices high."

And how, pray tell, did that come to be
the case? I guess the Iranians closed
the strait because they hate our
freedom, eh?


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This is a much better analogy, I will
grant you. However the issue is tht
your state does still have methods of
voter ID that are more reasonable and
don't place burden on the voter. For
example, New York has signature
matching and electronic pollbooks.

There's no signature involved during the voting process in New York. You tell them your name and address, they hand you a ballot, and that's all there is to it.

Signature matching sounds great though. Let's get that going next, after we get the ID checking out of the way.

You're MAGA. You don't trust the
government, I would presume. What would
you do if New York was 100% going
republican at the next election, and
the Dems introduced some new ID law
that you knew was gonna be hard for
your 80 year old republican Puerto
Rican neighbor to get done because he
was born at a rural hospital back in
the day and didn't have a valid birth
certificate, but was a US citizen, but
was also broke as fuck?

This means that in 80 years time, he's been unable to buy wine, unable to get a loan, unable to drive a car, and his cheapwad grandkids couldn't dig $17 out of their buttholes to give the old man enough money to get a learner's permit. I treated my grandfather better than that.

This is a rel scenario btw. My
Grandfather before he died was one such
person; no one, not even him, knew when
he was born and it was not documented.
All that was known was that we has born
at some point in the 30s in San Juan.

San Juan is not a rural area, which contradicts your story about him being born in a rural hospital. Was San Juan a rural area 80 years ago?

Still a US citizen, still has the right
to vote (well, when he was alive
anyhow.) In your state he could
exercise his vote. Under your rules, if

Anyone can vote in my state, as long as they have the name and address of a registered voter either memorized or written on a napkin.

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"I'm a teenager and I need to form a
relationship with an officer."

I would think that the school cop
knowing who the kid are, which ones are
bad eggs and aren't, etc, would be part
of the job. You know: formin a
relationship. I won't pretend to know
how your meeting went but I would think
you at least want the school cop to
know which kid is most likely to be a
school shooter and which ones are
harmless.

That makes sense, but that's not what the snakes were getting at. We were arguing about a survey where they asked a question like this:

"Do you think that the school resource officers are building positive relationships with the students?"

And the only logical answer to that question is "No" whether you're in favor of having school resource officers or not, but the snakes get to walk away with results that they can use to justify removing school resource officers.

e.g. "According to our survey, most parents agree that we need to get rid of school resource officers because they don't form positive relationships with students."

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"The Iranians are blocking oil
shipments," but the media knows that
it's easier to program "Trump bad, g
prices high."

And how, pray tell, did that come to be
the case? I guess the Iranians closed
the strait because they hate our
freedom, eh?

They're blocking the strait because it's a security vulnerability, but how did it happen? Well, it all began when they started playing around with nuclear enrichment, and it all ended when they started killing thousands of civilians.

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