When doing primary fermentation, which do you prefer: air-lock or blow off >tube?
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:46:39 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com> wrote:
When doing primary fermentation, which do you prefer: air-lock or blow
off tube?
Neither.
I take the large o-ring out of the screw on lid and use that to secure a piece of plastic wrap across the top of the fermenter. No hassles.
air-locks are a pain in the arse and a blow off tube is not much better.
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:56:29 +0100, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:46:39 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com> wrote:
When doing primary fermentation, which do you prefer: air-lock or blow >>>off tube?
Neither.
I take the large o-ring out of the screw on lid and use that to secure a
piece of plastic wrap across the top of the fermenter. No hassles.
air-locks are a pain in the arse and a blow off tube is not much better.
Or...
none at all, I use an open bucket as the yeast is a top fermenter it
makes its own lid, when over and gravity has stopped dropping (3-5 days)
it goes in a plastic barrel (king Keg) to condition/clear/mature then I >bottle - easy (well sometimes)
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:46:39 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com>
wrote:
When doing primary fermentation, which do you prefer: air-lock or blow
off tube?
Neither.
I take the large o-ring out of the screw on lid and use that to secure
a piece of plastic wrap across the top of the fermenter. No hassles. air-locks are a pain in the arse and a blow off tube is not much
better.
--
Shill #2
24 beers in a carton. 24 hours in a day. Hmm...?
Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> wrote in >news:1rucs41v76h13hrson1gf2k7cdhcoppss0@4ax.com:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:46:39 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com>
wrote:
When doing primary fermentation, which do you prefer: air-lock or blow >>>off tube?
Neither.
I take the large o-ring out of the screw on lid and use that to secure
a piece of plastic wrap across the top of the fermenter. No hassles.
air-locks are a pain in the arse and a blow off tube is not much
better.
--
Shill #2
24 beers in a carton. 24 hours in a day. Hmm...?
I don't think I follow.
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:01:20 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:1rucs41v76h13hrson1gf2k7cdhcoppss0@4ax.com:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:46:39 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com>
wrote:
When doing primary fermentation, which do you prefer: air-lock or
blow off tube?
Neither.
I take the large o-ring out of the screw on lid and use that to
secure a piece of plastic wrap across the top of the fermenter. No
hassles. air-locks are a pain in the arse and a blow off tube is not
much better.
I don't think I follow.
Like this http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/govshill/?action=view¤t= lookin.jpg
Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> wrote in >news:0t9es49ncm4bq1tivepf7qq47re034g1kb@4ax.com:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:01:20 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> wrote in >>>news:1rucs41v76h13hrson1gf2k7cdhcoppss0@4ax.com:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:46:39 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com>
wrote:
When doing primary fermentation, which do you prefer: air-lock or >>>>>blow off tube?
Neither.
I take the large o-ring out of the screw on lid and use that to
secure a piece of plastic wrap across the top of the fermenter. No
hassles. air-locks are a pain in the arse and a blow off tube is not
much better.
I don't think I follow.
Like this
http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/govshill/?action=view¤t=
lookin.jpg
So no C02 goes out? Does this carbonate at the same time?
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:46:12 -0400, Bryon Lape <no...@yahoo.com> wrote: >Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote in >news:0t9es49ncm4bq1tivepf7qq47re034g1kb@4ax.com:If you do primary in a carboy a blow-off tube is a good idea. There
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:01:20 -0400, Bryon Lape <no...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Government Shill #2 <gov.sh...@gmail.com> wrote in >>>news:1rucs41v76h13hrson1gf2k7cdhcoppss0@4ax.com:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:46:39 -0400, Bryon Lape <no...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
When doing primary fermentation, which do you prefer: air-lock or >>>>>blow off tube?
Neither.
I take the large o-ring out of the screw on lid and use that to
secure a piece of plastic wrap across the top of the fermenter. No
hassles. air-locks are a pain in the arse and a blow off tube is not >>>> much better.
I don't think I follow.
Like this >>http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/govshill/?action=view¤t=
lookin.jpg
So no C02 goes out? Does this carbonate at the same time?
The CO2 escapes under the o-ring. It's not a perfect seal. The plastic is just there to stop stuff falling in. The brew is protected from the
elements mostly by the layer of CO2 sitting on top of the brew. You can
also put *one* pin hole in the plastic if you want to. I used to do that,
but I don't bother anymore. No it doesn't carbonate it. I put the finished brew into a 20 litre post-mix keg for that.
When it's going flat out the gas coming off makes the plastic bow up like this:
http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/govshill/?action=view¤...
This is the beer fridge with kegs:
http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/govshill/?action=view¤...
The scale is under the keg so that I know when it's getting near empty.
--
Shill #2
Homer no function beer well without.
Homer J. Simpson
Quite interesting. What's the highest gravity beer you've done with this >method?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:20:37 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quite interesting. What's the highest gravity beer you've done with this >>method?
Me?
My database says a 1050.
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:20:37 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com> wrote:That's quite high, what brew was it and what was the final sg?
Quite interesting. What's the highest gravity beer you've done with this >>>method?
Me?
My database says a 1050.
Bertie
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:59:02 +0100, "Bertie Doe" > wrote:
That's quite high, what brew was it and what was the final sg?Quite interesting. What's the highest gravity beer you've done with >>>>this
method?
Me?
My database says a 1050.
Bertie
Again the database tells me it was a Coopers Stout kit. Actually two
Coopers kits combined. Nothing else added. Final sg 1014. Volume 19 litres (for putting into a post mix keg).
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:20:37 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com>That's quite high, what brew was it and what was the final sg?
wrote:
Quite interesting. What's the highest gravity beer you've done with
this method?
Me?
My database says a 1050.
Bertie
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:20:37 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com>That's quite high, what brew was it and what was the final sg?
wrote:
Quite interesting. What's the highest gravity beer you've done with >>>>this method?
Me?
My database says a 1050.
Bertie
That's high? The OG for the Irish Red I have in the primary 1.064.
That's
about average for me.
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:20:37 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com>That's quite high, what brew was it and what was the final sg?
wrote:
Quite interesting. What's the highest gravity beer you've done with >>>>>this method?
Me?
My database says a 1050.
Bertie
That's high? The OG for the Irish Red I have in the primary 1.064.
That's
about average for me.
Do you get close to 1.000 FG on that one? Is Irish Red a recipe or a concentrate kit?
"Bertie Doe" wrote
Do you get close to 1.000 FG on that one? Is Irish Red a recipe or a
concentrate kit?
Recipe, but I do still use extract malt.
http://greycorner.com/~brainmuffin/deepredale.html
"Bryon Lape" wrote in message
"Bertie Doe" wrote
Do you get close to 1.000 FG on that one? Is Irish Red a recipe or a
concentrate kit?
Recipe, but I do still use extract malt.
http://greycorner.com/~brainmuffin/deepredale.html
Thanks Bryon, saved to favs'.
Bertie
I am also trying to formulate a barley wine. This is what is in my
secondary at the moment:
http://greycorner.com/~brainmuffin/hoppybarleywine.html
Though mine is 15 lbs of extact as my local homebrew supply place makes
their own and the fermentable ratio is 7/9. 12# is DME. The OG on this
was 1.133. I took a reading last week and it was 1.040. This gives an
ABV of about 12.3%. It is still fermenting with air bubbling out the
airlock about once ever 12 seconds. And while I am in the shameless self-promotion area:
http://brainmuffinbeer.blogspot.com/
"Bryon Lape" <wrote in message
I am also trying to formulate a barley wine. This is what is in my
secondary at the moment:
http://greycorner.com/~brainmuffin/hoppybarleywine.html
Went to a friend's tasting evening, homemade Guiness and also Barley
wine. A deadly combination, there were quite a few casualties.
Though mine is 15 lbs of extact as my local homebrew supply place
makes their own and the fermentable ratio is 7/9. 12# is DME. The
OG on this was 1.133. I took a reading last week and it was 1.040.
This gives an ABV of about 12.3%. It is still fermenting with air
bubbling out the airlock about once ever 12 seconds. And while I am
in the shameless self-promotion area:
http://brainmuffinbeer.blogspot.com/
Irish moss?? that has me confused. I assume it's not used as a
filtering medium?
"Bertie Doe" < wrote in
http://brainmuffinbeer.blogspot.com/
Irish moss?? that has me confused. I assume it's not used as a
filtering medium?
Used to help clear up the beer. Put in last 15 minutes of boil.
http://www.listermann.com/Store/Details.asp?ID=262
"Bryon Lape" < wrote in message
"Bertie Doe" < wrote in
http://brainmuffinbeer.blogspot.com/
Irish moss?? that has me confused. I assume it's not used as a
filtering medium?
Used to help clear up the beer. Put in last 15 minutes of boil.
http://www.listermann.com/Store/Details.asp?ID=262
That's not a bad price, I guess you get 8 to 10 shots from 1oz. Don't
know whether it's available in the Uk. Sadly I'm a bit lazy ref
homebrew and most of my efforts have been via kits of concentrate -
they have improved a lot over time..
"Bertie Doe" <montebrasite4@ntl.com> wrote in >news:73olkeF104fsjU1@mid.individual.net:
"Bryon Lape" < wrote in message
"Bertie Doe" < wrote in
http://brainmuffinbeer.blogspot.com/
Irish moss?? that has me confused. I assume it's not used as a
filtering medium?
Used to help clear up the beer. Put in last 15 minutes of boil.
http://www.listermann.com/Store/Details.asp?ID=262
That's not a bad price, I guess you get 8 to 10 shots from 1oz. Don't
know whether it's available in the Uk. Sadly I'm a bit lazy ref
homebrew and most of my efforts have been via kits of concentrate -
they have improved a lot over time..
As long as you like what you make, it doesn't matter what you use.
Many
full grain brewers find it hard to believe that I've not made that step. >But I've yet to justify all that extra work and expense. Maybe someday
I'll do full grain, but for now I'll stick with extracts.
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:13:51 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com> wrote:
As long as you like what you make, it doesn't matter what you use.
Exactly!
Many
full grain brewers find it hard to believe that I've not made that step. >>But I've yet to justify all that extra work and expense. Maybe someday >>I'll do full grain, but for now I'll stick with extracts.
Me too. Beer is for drinking. I spend enough time making it with kits. And the results are fine, fine, fine. Much better than factory beer. I use
kits, don't bother with secondary fermenters, or finings etc, gave up on bottles, use kegs, and enjoy every drop.
I also appreciate that there are people who have different goals for their hobby. They can go through all of the extra motions. Good for them. I hope they don't forget to have fun. Relax and have a home brew.
"Government Shill #2" wrote in message
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:13:51 -0400, Bryon Lape <noone@yahoo.com> wrote:
As long as you like what you make, it doesn't matter what you use.
Exactly!
Many
full grain brewers find it hard to believe that I've not made that step. >>>But I've yet to justify all that extra work and expense. Maybe someday >>>I'll do full grain, but for now I'll stick with extracts.
Me too. Beer is for drinking. I spend enough time making it with kits. And >> the results are fine, fine, fine. Much better than factory beer. I use
kits, don't bother with secondary fermenters, or finings etc, gave up on
bottles, use kegs, and enjoy every drop.
I also appreciate that there are people who have different goals for their >> hobby. They can go through all of the extra motions. Good for them. I hope >> they don't forget to have fun. Relax and have a home brew.
It's the same with breadmaking. There is the sourdough group, who make >artisan breads, using natural yeasts in the flour, but may take 3 or 4 days >to develop. The other group like myself, who use fresh or instant yeast >(wham bam) who are less patient. But each method has it's own unique taste.
Incidentally, ref your earlier thread reference to Coopers concentrates, did >you see their 'sparkling beer' kit? Have you tried it?
I once tried making
Asti Spumanti, from an Italian white grape, but lost 90% of it, when the >bottles exploded. Fortunately it happened in the garage.
It's the same with breadmaking. There is the sourdough group, who make artisan breads, using natural yeasts in the flour, but may take 3 or 4
days to develop. The other group like myself, who use fresh or instant
yeast (wham bam) who are less patient. But each method has it's own
unique taste.
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:50:14 +0100,
"Bertie Doe" <montebrasite4@ntl.com>
wrote:
Incidentally, ref your earlier thread reference to Coopers concentrates, >>did
you see their 'sparkling beer' kit? Have you tried it?
No. I haven't yet. But I will.
I once tried making
Asti Spumanti, from an Italian white grape, but lost 90% of it, when the >>bottles exploded. Fortunately it happened in the garage.
Sounds like you might have bottle a bit early. Before the fermentation was complete. Either that or there was too much priming sugar in the bottles. That doesn't happen with kegs. I LOVE kegs. :-)
"Bertie Doe" < writes:
It's the same with breadmaking. There is the sourdough group, who make
artisan breads, using natural yeasts in the flour, but may take 3 or 4
days to develop. The other group like myself, who use fresh or instant
yeast (wham bam) who are less patient. But each method has it's own
unique taste.
Where does keeping around a permanent sourdough-starter fall into that
...?
[I used to use my flatmate's starter, which he had been keeping around
for years, and it seemed basically almost as easy as using pre-packaged yeasts (and drop-dead delicious...)]
"Government Shill #2" < wrote in message >
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:50:14 +0100,
"Bertie Doe" <montebrasite4@ntl.com>
wrote:
Incidentally, ref your earlier thread reference to Coopers concentrates, >>>did
you see their 'sparkling beer' kit? Have you tried it?
No. I haven't yet. But I will.
I once tried making
Asti Spumanti, from an Italian white grape, but lost 90% of it, when the >>>bottles exploded. Fortunately it happened in the garage.
Sounds like you might have bottle a bit early. Before the fermentation was >> complete. Either that or there was too much priming sugar in the bottles.
That doesn't happen with kegs. I LOVE kegs. :-)
Nah, in those days my wine-making kit comprised a 5 gallon carboy, an >aquarium heater/stat and a pressure filter, which filtered a gallon in 4 >minutes. CWE did a nice Italian white, which was a dead ringer for Asti. In >my stupidity, I didn't realise Asti was a CO2 injection method. I collected >loadsa Asti bottles from restaurants, not realising they weren't tough >enough for secondary. The garage stank for months!!
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