Comparing Synchronet to Major BBS or Wildcat, other than price, how do they compare? What are sone pros and cons to the other two comoared to Synchronet and hiw do they differ?
Morningstarr wrote to All <=-
Comparing Synchronet to Major BBS or Wildcat, other than price, how do they compare? What are sone pros and cons to the other two comoared to Synchronet and hiw do they differ?
Morningstarr wrote to All <=-
Comparing Synchronet to Major BBS or Wildcat, other than price, how do they compare? What are sone pros and cons to the other two comoared to Synchronet and hiw do they differ?
That's not a one-line answer. Why would you expect any of us to do that kind of homework/research for you?
Do the work yourself and decide.
... He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & CurlyI was not expecting someone to go through all the fine details. Just some of thr major ones that stick out. I did some research as well, found some differences. I seen some differences. Just wondering which one was more featurerich. I am not going through all the documentation on them. i hope someone who
Which bbs software is more feature rich?
What type of Internet-integrations can synchronet do that the
other two can't?
Re: pros and cons
By: Morningstarr to Digital Man on Fri Dec 19 2025 05:23 pm
I think that's too subjective of a question for me to answer. If Synchronet has more features, but you (or you users) don't care about or use those features, you wouldn't care.
Here's a complete list of Synchronet's included TCP/IP servers/services: https://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ports
Which ones exactly are or or are not supported by the other two, I don't know off the top of my head.
I don't think either Major BBS or Wildcat support SSH, for example. For a complete detailed comparison, you'll probably want to do a little more research yourself.
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I remember our county had bulletin, for all the schools, in theIf it's dialup you're after, a number of boards offer dialup still. https://endofthelinebbs.com/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=local-notices&thread=25 https://www.magnumbbs.net/
county. It was really cool, because it had twelve phone lines. It
also allowed all the students to have internet email. One feature
that stood out was the teachers could use the world group client and
open the browser and get on the internet. It had telnet as well and
tons of kids used the chat room. It was like a mini AOL. There would
be around fifty people using the chat room. That client was really
cool. During those years I became a cosysop on a wildcat board. That
stood out was its intranet ability. Synchronet kind of does that with
the web hosting ability. Synchronet has come a very long way. It’s
the best BBs software around hands down. Which bbs software is more
feature rich? What type of Internet-integrations can synchronet do
that the other two can’t? Thanks for your time sir!
On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 17:23:45 -0800
"Morningstarr" (VERT) <VERT!Morningstarr@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
If it's dialup you're after, a number of boards offer dialup still.
Not really looking. I was just curious about the differences in features. I think synchronet takes the crown.
Re: Re: pros and cons
By: Morningstarr to nelgin on Sat Dec 20 2025 08:05:48
I looked at several options before going with Synchronet. Then I ditched it. After a few years I revisited all the options and still want with Synchronet and here I am some 8 years later. I know others have been running it longer.
The plus side is that it's highly configurable and the downside is there's a learning curve if you don't know JavaScript, and if you do, you may have to unlearn some stuff that's currently not supported.
The other plus side is that support is incredibly easy to get from seasoned users and Digital Man who is very accessible and willing to help out.
The other plus side is that support is incredibly easy to get from
seasoned users and Digital Man who is very accessible and willing to
help out.
The plus side is that it's highly configurable and the downside
is there's a learning curve if you don't know JavaScript,
and if you do, you may have to unlearn some stuff that's currently
not supported.
Well I used to run a board and got pretty good at Baja. JavaScript
went right over my head. I won't run another board again, especially synchronet. I would ask a question and get ripped a new one. People
Besides, I don't have a pc anymore lol. Can't afford one and I also
grown to hate windows or anything made by Microsoft. Yeah I could
accidentally used bad grammar. It turned me off from the whole scene and I have been away since 2013.
Besides, I don’t have a pc anymore lol. Can’t afford one and I also grown to hate windows or anything made by Microsoft. Yeah I could use Linux or Mac, but I’m not buying anymore or building anymore computers. Too much trouble. The last pc I built had a bad gpu. I send that thing back probably ten times and got the same results, screen artifacts. All I have now is game consoles and an iPad.
The other plus side is that support is incredibly easy to get from seasoned users and Digital Man who is very accessible and willing to
help out.
Until you tell him that his wiki sucks, can't be followed to a tee to get the correct results, and that it should just be "silver spoons" kind of easy. Then he might not help out any further, or at least until you're a bit more respectful. :D
He does have some of the best patience I've seen in this hobby, though!
Hey nelgin!
On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 14:46:58 -0600, you wrote:
Until you tell him that his wiki sucks, can't be followed to a tee to get the correct results, and that it should just be "silver spoons" kind of easy. Then he might not help out any further, or at least until you're a bit more respectful. :D
He does have some of the best patience I've seen in this--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
Re: Re: pros and cons
By: Morningstarr to nelgin on Sat Dec 20 2025 16:02:17
ok not to be rude, but why would you even ask if you have no intention of running a BBS?
You can pick up tried and tested PCs dead cheap these days. They don't need to be the latest and greatest, just some sort of x86_64 with 4GB+ of memory will run Synchronet.
I have no problem telling people to go read the documentation, and I've been told that enough times, but if someone can genuinely prove they've given it a try then I'll help out, and if they can articulate their issue and provide useful feedback. Getting support is a 2 way street, if you want help, you have to be prepared to run command and paste output.
ok not to be rude, but why would you even ask if you have no intention of running a BBS?Well I don’t have the hardware to run a bbs. I’m not fooling around in windows again and the last time I had a board. I got thrashed by other sysops for asking questions. It was heavily modified too.
Until you tell him that his wiki sucks, can't be followed to a tee
to get the correct results, and that it should just be "silver
spoons" kind of easy. Then he might not help out any further,
or at least until you're a bit more respectful. :D
He does have some of the best patience I've seen in this hobby,
though!
Morningstarr wrote to nelgin <=-
Re: Re: pros and cons
By: Morningstarr to nelgin on Sat Dec 20 2025 08:05:48
I looked at several options before going with Synchronet. Then I ditched it. After a few years I revisited all the options and still want with Synchronet and here I am some 8 years later. I know others have been running it longer.
The plus side is that it's highly configurable and the downside is there's a learning curve if you don't know JavaScript, and if you do, you may have to unlearn some stuff that's currently not supported.
The other plus side is that support is incredibly easy to get from seasoned users and Digital Man who is very accessible and willing to help out.
Well I used to run a board and got pretty good at Baja. JavaScript went right over my head. I wonª€™t run another board again, especially synchronet. I would ask a question and get ripped a new one. People
would be mean to me and always, always, said read the documentation.
lol, I read the documentation. I probably read it more than most,
spent days and nights. Sometimes the documentation went over my head
and when I would ask. Certain sysops would rip in to me. They are still around actually. The only two that were nice to me was rob and night
fox. Heaven forbid you forget a coma or accidentally used bad grammar.
It turned me off from the whole scene and I have been away since 2013.
Besides, I donª€™t have a pc anymore lol. Canª€™t afford one and I also grown to hate windows or anything made by Microsoft. Yeah I could use Linux or Mac, but Iª€™m not buying anymore or building anymore
computers. Too much trouble. The last pc I built had a bad gpu. I send that thing back probably ten times and got the same results, screen artifacts. All I have now is game consoles and an iPad.
You can setup a default board, draw some mediocre and I and
install a few door games. However, to make it your own board and deck
it out, you have to program. So no offense but I disagree a little
on that. I also refuse to use anything Microsoft touches anymore.
The last straw was their latest price hike on their console and game
His wiki obviously doesn't suck. Look at all the great boards created
from his wiki. It's probably just me dude.
but to me it's not worth the trouble and flak I took for asking
questions. To answer your question though, basic curiosity and it
fascinates me. Too bad the internet ruined/killed the BBs scene.
The internet did some good things for bbsing, but it also killed
it at the same time.
Uh-huh. I suspect there's more to the story than that.
Okay, so with all that..... why are you in here asking about which BBS software is "best", when you don't intend to run one and don't even own
a computer?
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Re: Re: pros and consI don’t know what you’re talking about dude.
By: Morningstarr to MRO on Sat Dec 20 2025 06:01 pm
i've been in this synchronet shit 25 years or more. no you dont. respect my e-peen.
i dont know what your issue is with microsoft and dont care. just use it as as an OS. win 10 32bit is a good os to run a bbs one.--- Synchronet 3.21a-Linux NewsLink 1.2
i dont care about price hikes. i dont pay.
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Re: Re: pros and cons
By: Morningstarr to nelgin on Sat Dec 20 2025 06:15 pm
the internet did not kill bbsing. sysops killed bbsing. they never worked together and they did not adapt soon enough. at best, sysops got
together and build their little fishbowl communities. that never works.
they try to beat the internet and that never works.
The plus side is that it's highly configurable and the downside is there's a learning curve if you don't know JavaScript, and if you do, you may have
Well I used to run a board and got pretty good at Baja. JavaScript went right over my head. I won't run another board again, especially synchronet. I would ask a question and get ripped a new one. People would be mean to me and always, always, said read the documentation. lol, I read the documentation. I probably read it more than most, spent days and
the internet did not kill bbsing. sysops killed bbsing. they never worked together and they did not adapt soon enough. at best, sysops got together and build their little fishbowl communities. that never works. they try to beat the internet and that never works.
He does have some of the best patience I've seen in this hobby, though!
If a wiki article sucks, there are much better ways to prove your case. Usually the best result is to figure why it sucks and fix it. That's the whole purpose of a wiki. I cannot be written for every single edge case
out there and the only way to improve is by users adding to it.
He sure does. He's a "pull up a chair and let's have a cup of tea and
talk abour your issues" kinda guy. I'm more of the "I'll smote the
fucker and all problems are resolved" type :)
There are characters that would test the patience of a nun that's for
sure.
You can setup a default board, draw some mediocre and I and install a
few door games. However, to make it your own board and deck it out, you
have to program. So no offense but I disagree a little on that. I also refuse to use anything Microsoft touches anymore. The last straw was
their latest price hike on their console and game pass.
Sorry I didn’t quote. I’m using muffinterm and I can’t use an
editor with it because control keys do not exist on iPad.
His wiki obviously doesn’t suck. Look at all the great boards created
from his wiki. It’s probably just me dude.
Re: Re: pros and cons
By: Morningstarr to nelgin on Sat Dec 20 2025 06:15 pm
the internet did not kill bbsing. sysops killed bbsing. they never
worked together and they did not adapt soon enough. at best, sysops
got together and build their little fishbowl communities. that never works. they try to beat the internet and that never works.
Well that's a valid point. I could see how sysops ruined bbsing.
Most of the ones I came across, aside from a few, are extremely
rude know it alls.
/If/ a wiki article sucks. However, it doesn't. The dude just had an old version of Synchronet installed that didn't yet support the feature he was looking for, which was his main issue for everything he tried on said wiki not working. That's why the wiki sucked in his eyes.
Hey Morningstarr!
On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 18:01:38 -0800, you wrote:
You can setup a default board, draw some mediocre and I and install a
few door games. However, to make it your own board and deck it out, you have to program. So no offense but I disagree a little on that. I also refuse to use anything Microsoft touches anymore. The last straw was their latest price hike on their console and game pass.
Most BBS softwares don't use scripting or have a programming language that w > with them at all. Sure, a couple of the softwares brought up in this
conversation actually do, but most don't. So I'm not sure where this comment > comes from. You don't /need/ to program anything at all. Old school menu
editing, Modifying prompts, changing all the screens, putting content on the > that isn't the same as everyone else's, etc. doesn't involve programming.
Sorry I didn't quote. I'm using muffinterm and I can't use an
editor with it because control keys do not exist on iPad.
With SlyEdit, for example, you don't need control keys. On an empty line, "/ > can be used to quote, "/S" can be used to save, as well as other options. Th > may even be an option in some other external editors, and maybe even
Synchronet's line editor (but I haven't used them recently, so that's why I brought up SlyEdit specifically).
Regards,
Nick
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With SlyEdit, for example, you don't need control keys. On an empty
line, "/ > can be used to quote, "/S" can be used to save, as well
as other options. Th > may even be an option in some other external editors, and maybe even Synchronet's line editor (but I haven't
used them recently, so that's why I brought up SlyEdit
specifically).
so writing java script isnt programming? thanks for the tips dude!
Morningstarr wrote to Accession <=-
Re: pros and cons
By: Accession to Morningstarr on Sun Dec 21 2025 08:46 am
You can setup a default board, draw some mediocre and I and install a
few door games. However, to make it your own board and deck it out, you have to program.
Most BBS softwares don't use scripting or have a programming language that w with them at all. Sure, a couple of the softwares brought up in this conversation actually do, but most don't. So I'm not sure where this comment comes from. You don't /need/ to program anything at all. Old school menu editing, Modifying prompts, changing all the screens, putting content on the that isn't the same as everyone else's, etc. doesn't involve programming.
so writing java script isnt programming? thanks for the tips dude!
so writing java script isnt programming? thanks for the tips dude!
Hey Morningstarr!
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 15:48:02 -0800, you wrote:
so writing java script isnt programming? thanks for the tips dude!
Sure it is. However, That's not what I said. I gave just about every
You don't *need* to write (or even know how to write) javascript
in order to modify a Synchronet BBS. That was my point, that
apparantly you didn't get out of my message. ;(
i dunno. i think it depends on the extent. i would call some of it scripting. Like i use perl for simple things. I dont feel i'm programming. the same with .js.
i dunno. i think it depends on the extent. i would call some of it scripting. Like i use perl for simple things. I dont feel i'm
programming. the same with .js.
I would still throw that in the programming category, but my point was that you don't /need/ to use javascript, or perl, or any programming language for that matter, to modify a BBS. Some of the most modded systems I've seen over the years were OBV/2 and Renegade - which have no scripting, programming, or anything like that. It was all simple menu editing and TheDraw ansimations.
Is scripting not programming?
Is scripting not programming?
Someone once a long time ago explained to me that scripting was not considered "true programming" since there was little to no consideration for lower-level concepts like memory management and garbage collection and stuff like that. I disagreed with this person, but I understood where they were coming from.
Traditional DistinctionsIs scripting not programming?
Programming (CPU/System Focus): Historically, "programming" refers to creating standalone software from scratch using compiled languages like C++ or Rust. These programs are translated into machine code that the CPU executes directly to perform complex, resource-intensive tasks like building operating systems or game engines.
Scripting (Program/Automation Focus): "Scripting" traditionally involves writing instructions to control or automate an existing program or environment. Scripts are typically interpreted line-by-line at runtime by another program (a "host" or interpreter) rather than the CPU directly.
I would say both are considered programming.
Traditional Distinctions
Programming (CPU/System Focus): Historically, "programming" refers to creating standalone software from scratch using compiled languages like C++ or Rust. These programs are translated into machine code that the CPU executes directly to perform complex, resource-intensive tasks like building operating systems or game engines.
Scripting (Program/Automation Focus): "Scripting" traditionally involves writing instructions to control or automate an existing program or environment. Scripts are typically interpreted line-by-line at runtime by another program (a "host" or interpreter) rather than the CPU directly.
I would say both are considered programming.
Yeah, I feel like both can be considered programming. There have
been entire programs written in Python, for instances, which has traditionally been thought of as a scripting language. The lines
are definitely blurred. But when it comes to things like writing
Windows batch files or *NIX shell scripts, I do tend to call those 'scripting', since in those cases, I'm usually trying to automate
something and it isn't compiled.
But when it comes to things like writing Windows batch files or *NIX shell
scripts, I do tend to call those 'scripting', since in those cases, I'm
usually trying to automate something and it isn't compiled.
I can bash script, just as good as i could probably do batch files. THAT is not programming.
There is a HUGE difference. You programmers can argue all you want. But, look at it at this angle: I'm a legit construction (Ironworker) foreman. I build shit that is used (as in your office buildings) and/or driven on (bridges), on a daily basis). I don't do a single fucking thing you guys do in your comfortable/uncomfortable chair at work.
I agree, both achieve the same result, get the machine to do what you want it to. The only difference really is the speed of execution and whether or not you need to worry about memory management. Today, the syntax between many different languages is so similiar, I can quickly convert code between C/C#/JavaScript with much thought.
need to worry about memory management. Today's language syntax so similiar, you can easily convert code between C/C#/JavaScript without much effort.
I would say both are considered programming.
Yeah, I feel like both can be considered programming. There have been entire programs written in Python, for instances, which has traditionally been thought of as a scripting language. The lines are definitely blurred. But when it comes to things like writing Windows batch files or *NIX shell scripts, I do tend to call those 'scripting', since in those cases, I'm usually trying to automate something and it isn't compiled.
What's with the angry tone here?
Merry Christmas, man..
I have done a lot of HTML coding, that I would say is definatley not programming.
Why Batch feels different
Batch files are essentially just a list of commands you would normally type into the Command Prompt, saved into a file so you don't have to type them twice.
When you added variables and logic, you were actually using the fundamental building blocks of computer science:
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