• ssd prices through the roof

    From bad sector@forgetski@_INVALID.net to alt.os.linux on Wed May 6 22:00:41 2026
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    Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another
    which was $400 but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would
    ease back toward $300.

    Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

    Meanwhile some unknown makes

    (V-Nand 870 EVO) 4tb on AliEx are $111cad
    Netac 4tb $5`00cad

    but I don't dare buy them for lack of experience with the label.

    What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects
    or Hormuz ones?



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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux on Thu May 7 01:02:40 2026
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    On Wed, 5/6/2026 10:00 PM, bad sector wrote:

    Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another which was $400
    but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would ease back toward $300.

    Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

    Meanwhile some unknown makes

    (V-Nand 870 EVO) 4tb on AliEx are $111cad
    Netac 4tb $5`00cad

    but I don't dare buy them for lack of experience with the label.

    What the hell is going on?  Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects or Hormuz ones?

    It's the AI and so-called "data centers" that are eating up
    NAND Flash and DRAM. The SSDs are at about 4X the normal price.

    If someone is selling you a device for $111cad, that would be
    a "fraud-mobile" :-)

    I was at the computer store a while back, and a guy is speccing
    a home build, everything is fine on CPU and motherboard,
    and then he asks for 64GB of DRAM. And the clerk says
    "that'll be $1200 and would you like financing with that" :-)
    Like he was buying a used car or something. And the scowl
    on the customers face... Priceless.

    It's like checking the prices on unicorns now.

    Paul
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to alt.os.linux on Thu May 7 17:01:41 2026
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    On Wed, 6 May 2026 22:00:41 -0400, bad sector wrote:

    What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects
    or Hormuz ones?

    Have you been snoozing in a cave and missed the AI fad?
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux on Thu May 7 20:16:46 2026
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    On 2026-05-07 19:01, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 22:00:41 -0400, bad sector wrote:

    What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects
    or Hormuz ones?

    Have you been snoozing in a cave and missed the AI fad?

    Not every body is buying hardware every day. I haven't bought any disk
    or any ram since before the fad. I don't know the prices. I hear
    rumours, that is.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From bad sector@forgetski@_INVALID.net to alt.os.linux on Fri May 8 05:34:38 2026
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    On 5/7/26 1:02 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Wed, 5/6/2026 10:00 PM, bad sector wrote:

    Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another which was $400
    but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would ease back toward $300.

    Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

    Meanwhile some unknown makes

    (V-Nand 870 EVO) 4tb on AliEx are $111cad
    Netac 4tb $5`00cad

    but I don't dare buy them for lack of experience with the label.

    What the hell is going on?  Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects or Hormuz ones?

    It's the AI and so-called "data centers" that are eating up
    NAND Flash and DRAM. The SSDs are at about 4X the normal price.

    If someone is selling you a device for $111cad, that would be
    a "fraud-mobile" :-)

    I was at the computer store a while back, and a guy is speccing
    a home build, everything is fine on CPU and motherboard,
    and then he asks for 64GB of DRAM. And the clerk says
    "that'll be $1200 and would you like financing with that" :-)
    Like he was buying a used car or something. And the scowl
    on the customers face... Priceless.

    It's like checking the prices on unicorns now.

    Paul

    Fear not, George Soros or flunky jr. will save the day with 'interest
    only' loans! It's time for 'community' action, fill the ether with the
    fact that AI is just a glorified, overpriced and oversold search engine,
    and press repreentatives for rumors of legislation prohibiting
    unrestricted storage of other people's data. That together should help
    deflate the bubble and maybe even accellerate the bust that might be
    coming anyway. I dunno how the chineses pay $1600 for an ssd though?

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to alt.os.linux on Fri May 8 19:26:14 2026
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    On Thu, 7 May 2026 20:16:46 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    On 2026-05-07 19:01, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 22:00:41 -0400, bad sector wrote:

    What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects
    or Hormuz ones?

    Have you been snoozing in a cave and missed the AI fad?

    Not every body is buying hardware every day. I haven't bought any disk
    or any ram since before the fad. I don't know the prices. I hear
    rumours, that is.

    I haven't bought new hardware recently but I do read the tech news sites.
    Even the price of a Raspberry Pi has been driven up to the point where it
    is not attractive. When people found they could use GPUs for bitcoin
    mining the price of video cards rose to ridiculous levels but this is a
    more general problem.

    Trump's 'we aren't at war' thrashing around has much broader
    implications.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to alt.os.linux on Fri May 8 22:03:28 2026
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    On 2026-05-08 21:26, rbowman wrote:
    On Thu, 7 May 2026 20:16:46 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    On 2026-05-07 19:01, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 22:00:41 -0400, bad sector wrote:

    What the hell is going on? Are these Trumpstein tariff ripple-effects >>>> or Hormuz ones?

    Have you been snoozing in a cave and missed the AI fad?

    Not every body is buying hardware every day. I haven't bought any disk
    or any ram since before the fad. I don't know the prices. I hear
    rumours, that is.

    I haven't bought new hardware recently but I do read the tech news sites. Even the price of a Raspberry Pi has been driven up to the point where it
    is not attractive. When people found they could use GPUs for bitcoin
    mining the price of video cards rose to ridiculous levels but this is a
    more general problem.

    I know that memory and disk prices have gone up (a lot), but I don't
    actually realize how much till I try to buy something. It is a somewhat
    remote knowledge.


    Trump's 'we aren't at war' thrashing around has much broader
    implications.

    Uff... :-(
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    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From Joerg Walther@joerg.walther@magenta.de to alt.os.linux on Sat May 9 13:27:07 2026
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    bad sector wrote:

    Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another
    which was $400 but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would
    ease back toward $300.

    Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

    ¤233 on amazon.de: https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Festplatte-Datenübertragung-MZ-77E1T0B-EU/dp/B08PC5DKZQ?,
    roughly $375 cad.
    No idea, why they're so expensive in Canada.

    -jw-
    --
    And now for something completely different...
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux on Sat May 9 09:52:06 2026
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    On Sat, 5/9/2026 7:27 AM, Joerg Walther wrote:
    bad sector wrote:

    Last year I bought 1 Samsung 870evo for around $340cad, then another
    which was $400 but put off buying the 3rd one thinking the price would
    ease back toward $300.

    Now they're $1800 on amazon.ca and $2800 on newegg.ca!

    ¤233 on amazon.de: https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Festplatte-Datenübertragung-MZ-77E1T0B-EU/dp/B08PC5DKZQ?,
    roughly $375 cad.
    No idea, why they're so expensive in Canada.

    -jw-


    That's for a 1TB 870evo.

    At the bottom of the page, you can see another entry for the 4TB one.

    893 Euro = 1,439.47 Canadian Dollar (amazon.de)

    The entry at my (Canadian) computer store is (suspiciously, double)

    Samsung 870 EVO 4TB SATA III Solid State Drive $2,819.99

    The Newegg USA entry in USD is

    SAMSUNG 870 EVO 4TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-77E4T0B/AM)
    Model #: MZ-77E4T0B/AM

    $1,799.99 USD and if I multiply by 1.5x would be $2700 or so

    At a guess, that's probably a tariff of some sort.

    *******

    So let's buy a 270K processor. My computer store lists:

    Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus Desktop Processor 24 cores (8P+16E) $439.99 CDN

    which would be about 273 Euro. What is your price like on that one, as
    that might be considered "made in USA" so the tariff might be different ?

    It's not really important, as nobody is going to be buying one
    of those 870 EVO 4TB at prices like this anyway. Back when this
    tariffing thing was in play, an economist said "tariffs above 50%
    stop trade completely", which is a shrewd guess.

    Paul
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  • From Joerg Walther@joerg.walther@magenta.de to alt.os.linux on Sat May 9 17:54:20 2026
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    Paul wrote:

    ¤233 on amazon.de:
    https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Festplatte-Datenübertragung-MZ-77E1T0B-EU/dp/B08PC5DKZQ?,
    roughly $375 cad.
    No idea, why they're so expensive in Canada.

    That's for a 1TB 870evo.

    At the bottom of the page, you can see another entry for the 4TB one.

    In your posting you did not mention that this was about the 4TB model,
    which btw is ¤758.
    I bought the 1tb model in 2023 für about ¤100.

    -jw-
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux on Sat May 9 13:32:09 2026
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    On Sat, 5/9/2026 11:54 AM, Joerg Walther wrote:
    Paul wrote:

    ¤233 on amazon.de:
    https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-Festplatte-Datenübertragung-MZ-77E1T0B-EU/dp/B08PC5DKZQ?,
    roughly $375 cad.
    No idea, why they're so expensive in Canada.

    That's for a 1TB 870evo.

    At the bottom of the page, you can see another entry for the 4TB one.

    In your posting you did not mention that this was about the 4TB model,
    which btw is ¤758.
    I bought the 1tb model in 2023 für about ¤100.

    -jw-


    That's because we're offered differential pricing.
    Nothing is "honest" on the Internet. Amazon can
    quote you different prices, if you check the price
    several times over a matter of days.

    Ask two of your countrymen, to check the Amazon
    site at the same time, and see if they are quoted the
    same price.

    That's why using Amazon as a pricing metric, carries
    some amount of risk.

    The very first time I did business with Amazon, they
    did a bait and switch. It took me a month to unwind that
    and get my money back. The result of them doing that
    on the very first purchase, is I have not done business
    with Amazon ever again. They can "take their merch and shove it".

    Paul
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