• How to connect to a Windows PC

    From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Mon Dec 4 20:44:01 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our
    Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the
    laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed
    Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows
    network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta
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  • From Heinz Schmitz@sch@example.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Tue Dec 5 00:04:24 2023
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    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our
    Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the >laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed >Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows
    network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the >Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.
    I always try with "ping" first. If that works, the hardware is ok.
    Then I check the settings of TCP.
    Regards,
    H.
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Mon Dec 4 19:23:10 2023
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    On 12/4/2023 2:44 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Well, we know right away, you're not running SMBV1, so we don't
    need to worry about that. If you have a NAS, a lot of those older
    ones, will have SMBV1 as their only dialect of SAMBA.

    There is SAMBA Client and SAMBA Server on a Linux box. The Server
    is invoked, when you do Properties on a folder and select the Sharing
    function. It will tell you it "needs to install some software".
    The first time I saw a working serving setup, that's what it does,
    is install two packages.

    Out of the box, Zorin is poorly prepared (behavior copied STRAIGHT from Ubuntu!).

    sudo add-apt-repository universe # Placed in my notes file, some years ago now.
    sudo add-apt-repository multiverse # A Ubuntu Purity-ism.
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get install synaptic
    sudo synaptic # Now we have a synaptic for later.

    sudo apt install samba # meta-package, includes samba-common

    Now you have a /etc/samba/smb.conf file. That's what the first six lines give us.

    For example, at this point:

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf
    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ps aguwwwx | grep smbd
    root 6817 0.0 0.8 96888 24320 ? Ss 18:17 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd --foreground --no-process-group

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ps aguwwwx | grep nmbd

    root 6807 0.0 0.5 80520 15360 ? Ss 18:17 0:00 /usr/sbin/nmbd --foreground --no-process-group

    sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf

    workgroup = WORKGROUP # Now we add some settings. The setting already there, assumes WORKGROUP is the one.

    server min protocol = NT1
    server max protocol = smb3
    client min protocol = NT1
    client max protocol = smb3
    client lanman auth = yes
    ntlm auth = yes

    Now, we add ourselves to some password thing,
    using the same password as our account. Or so.

    $ sudo smbpasswd -a bullwinkle

    [sudo] password for bullwinkle:
    New SMB password:
    Retype new SMB password:
    Added user bullwinkle.

    Reboot Zorin so it all "takes". Easier than messing with systemd for me.

    At this point, outgoing from Zorin to DailyDriver works, but only this way. Even though nmbd is running, no luck with symbolic naming is evident.
    However, if I go to the Nautilus "Connect box" at the bottom of "Other Locations",
    and I enter smb://wallace/shared, that works, which means nameserving
    works a little bit, but it refuses to scan the network and make
    a list for us. This appears to be the only defect.

    nautilus smb://192.168.2.100/shared # Requests authentication
    nautilus smb://wallace/shared # This format may work -- test it.

    *******

    Now, I will test server side. I highlight my Downloads folder,
    select Properties, then "Local Network Share".

    It presented one dialog, but now seems to be stalled. Even though it is stalled,
    I close the Properties dialog, on the premise it is finished. It's possible installing the samba metapackage, provided the two packages needed (which it would normally manually install and would need sudo).

    Downloads folder, now has a purple sub-icon.

    And I know one thing I did wrong, is I now need to change the Networking
    from "NAT" to "Bridged Adapter" on my Virtual Machine with ZORO in it.
    And now I'll reboot Zorin, so this has a chance to initialize properly.

    These are my test results.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/qqdfjLXx/Zorin-Windows-SAMBA.gif

    *********************** Additional notes (of no particular value *********************

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/samba

    client min protocol = CORE

    "To provide basic file sharing through SMB, enable/start smb.service"
    "nmb.service is not required. However, it is needed to access
    Samba servers by hostname (e.g. smb://hostname/) for some hosts."

    systemctl status smbd nmbd
    sudo systemctl start smbd nmbd

    *******

    Mounting a share, looks like this. The IP address is used, as nmbd is likely not running (or, it's SAMBA and some part of the NetworkBrowser on the Windows side isn't working right).

    sudo mount -vvv -t cifs //192.168.1.66/alan/ /spare/churchill/alan/ -o rw,noperm,username=alan,password=<my_password>,vers=1.0,uid=alan

    Paul
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Tue Dec 5 09:38:29 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 05/12/2023 00:04, Heinz Schmitz wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our
    Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the
    laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed
    Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows
    network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the
    Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    I always try with "ping" first. If that works, the hardware is ok.
    Then I check the settings of TCP.

    Regards,
    H.



    Thanks!
    I'll check it out.

    Fokke
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Tue Dec 5 09:40:42 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 05/12/2023 01:23, Paul wrote:
    On 12/4/2023 2:44 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Well, we know right away, you're not running SMBV1, so we don't
    need to worry about that. If you have a NAS, a lot of those older
    ones, will have SMBV1 as their only dialect of SAMBA.

    There is SAMBA Client and SAMBA Server on a Linux box. The Server
    is invoked, when you do Properties on a folder and select the Sharing function. It will tell you it "needs to install some software".
    The first time I saw a working serving setup, that's what it does,
    is install two packages.

    Out of the box, Zorin is poorly prepared (behavior copied STRAIGHT from Ubuntu!).

    sudo add-apt-repository universe # Placed in my notes file, some years ago now.
    sudo add-apt-repository multiverse # A Ubuntu Purity-ism.
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get install synaptic
    sudo synaptic # Now we have a synaptic for later.

    sudo apt install samba # meta-package, includes samba-common

    Now you have a /etc/samba/smb.conf file. That's what the first six lines give us.

    For example, at this point:

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf
    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ps aguwwwx | grep smbd
    root 6817 0.0 0.8 96888 24320 ? Ss 18:17 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd --foreground --no-process-group

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ps aguwwwx | grep nmbd

    root 6807 0.0 0.5 80520 15360 ? Ss 18:17 0:00 /usr/sbin/nmbd --foreground --no-process-group

    sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf

    workgroup = WORKGROUP # Now we add some settings. The setting already there, assumes WORKGROUP is the one.

    server min protocol = NT1
    server max protocol = smb3
    client min protocol = NT1
    client max protocol = smb3
    client lanman auth = yes
    ntlm auth = yes

    Now, we add ourselves to some password thing,
    using the same password as our account. Or so.

    $ sudo smbpasswd -a bullwinkle

    [sudo] password for bullwinkle:
    New SMB password:
    Retype new SMB password:
    Added user bullwinkle.

    Reboot Zorin so it all "takes". Easier than messing with systemd for me.

    At this point, outgoing from Zorin to DailyDriver works, but only this way. Even though nmbd is running, no luck with symbolic naming is evident. However, if I go to the Nautilus "Connect box" at the bottom of "Other Locations",
    and I enter smb://wallace/shared, that works, which means nameserving
    works a little bit, but it refuses to scan the network and make
    a list for us. This appears to be the only defect.

    nautilus smb://192.168.2.100/shared # Requests authentication
    nautilus smb://wallace/shared # This format may work -- test it.

    *******

    Now, I will test server side. I highlight my Downloads folder,
    select Properties, then "Local Network Share".

    It presented one dialog, but now seems to be stalled. Even though it is stalled,
    I close the Properties dialog, on the premise it is finished. It's possible installing the samba metapackage, provided the two packages needed (which it would normally manually install and would need sudo).

    Downloads folder, now has a purple sub-icon.

    And I know one thing I did wrong, is I now need to change the Networking
    from "NAT" to "Bridged Adapter" on my Virtual Machine with ZORO in it.
    And now I'll reboot Zorin, so this has a chance to initialize properly.

    These are my test results.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/qqdfjLXx/Zorin-Windows-SAMBA.gif

    *********************** Additional notes (of no particular value *********************

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/samba

    client min protocol = CORE

    "To provide basic file sharing through SMB, enable/start smb.service"
    "nmb.service is not required. However, it is needed to access
    Samba servers by hostname (e.g. smb://hostname/) for some hosts."

    systemctl status smbd nmbd
    sudo systemctl start smbd nmbd

    *******

    Mounting a share, looks like this. The IP address is used, as nmbd is likely not running (or, it's SAMBA and some part of the NetworkBrowser on the Windows
    side isn't working right).

    sudo mount -vvv -t cifs //192.168.1.66/alan/ /spare/churchill/alan/ -o rw,noperm,username=alan,password=<my_password>,vers=1.0,uid=alan

    Paul

    Thanks, Paul.

    This is really complete information but very complicated. I will work it
    out.
    But bullwinkle@ZORO? What does it stand for? What should I fill in?

    Regards,
    Fokke

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Tue Dec 5 05:22:36 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 12/5/2023 3:40 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 05/12/2023 01:23, Paul wrote:
    On 12/4/2023 2:44 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Well, we know right away, you're not running SMBV1, so we don't
    need to worry about that. If you have a NAS, a lot of those older
    ones, will have SMBV1 as their only dialect of SAMBA.

    There is SAMBA Client and SAMBA Server on a Linux box. The Server
    is invoked, when you do Properties on a folder and select the Sharing
    function. It will tell you it "needs to install some software".
    The first time I saw a working serving setup, that's what it does,
    is install two packages.

    Out of the box, Zorin is poorly prepared (behavior copied STRAIGHT from Ubuntu!).

        sudo add-apt-repository universe     # Placed in my notes file, some years ago now.
        sudo add-apt-repository multiverse   # A Ubuntu Purity-ism.
        sudo apt-get update
        sudo apt-get install synaptic
        sudo synaptic                        # Now we have a synaptic for later.

        sudo apt install samba               # meta-package, includes samba-common

    Now you have a   /etc/samba/smb.conf  file. That's what the first six lines give us.

    For example, at this point:

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf
    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ps aguwwwx | grep smbd
    root        6817  0.0  0.8  96888 24320 ?        Ss   18:17   0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd --foreground --no-process-group

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ps aguwwwx | grep nmbd

    root        6807  0.0  0.5  80520 15360 ?        Ss   18:17   0:00 /usr/sbin/nmbd --foreground --no-process-group

    sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf

        workgroup = WORKGROUP                # Now we add some settings. The setting already there, assumes WORKGROUP is the one.

        server min protocol = NT1
        server max protocol = smb3
        client min protocol = NT1
        client max protocol = smb3
        client lanman auth = yes
        ntlm auth = yes

    Now, we add ourselves to some password thing,
    using the same password as our account. Or so.

    $ sudo smbpasswd -a bullwinkle

    [sudo] password for bullwinkle:
    New SMB password:
    Retype new SMB password:
    Added user bullwinkle.

    Reboot Zorin so it all "takes". Easier than messing with systemd for me.

    At this point, outgoing from Zorin to DailyDriver works, but only this way. >> Even though nmbd is running, no luck with symbolic naming is evident.
    However, if I go to the Nautilus "Connect box" at the bottom of "Other Locations",
    and I enter smb://wallace/shared, that works, which means nameserving
    works a little bit, but it refuses to scan the network and make
    a list for us. This appears to be the only defect.

    nautilus smb://192.168.2.100/shared    # Requests authentication
    nautilus smb://wallace/shared          # This format may work -- test it.

    *******

    Now, I will test server side. I highlight my Downloads folder,
    select Properties, then "Local Network Share".

    It presented one dialog, but now seems to be stalled. Even though it is stalled,
    I close the Properties dialog, on the premise it is finished. It's possible >> installing the samba metapackage, provided the two packages needed (which it >> would normally manually install and would need sudo).

    Downloads folder, now has a purple sub-icon.

    And I know one thing I did wrong, is I now need to change the Networking
    from "NAT" to "Bridged Adapter" on my Virtual Machine with ZORO in it.
    And now I'll reboot Zorin, so this has a chance to initialize properly.

    These are my test results.

        [Picture]

         https://i.postimg.cc/qqdfjLXx/Zorin-Windows-SAMBA.gif

    *********************** Additional notes (of no particular value *********************

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/samba

        client min protocol = CORE

        "To provide basic file sharing through SMB, enable/start smb.service" >>     "nmb.service is not required. However, it is needed to access
         Samba servers by hostname (e.g. smb://hostname/) for some hosts." >>
        systemctl status smbd nmbd
        sudo systemctl start smbd nmbd

    *******

    Mounting a share, looks like this. The IP address is used, as nmbd is likely >> not running (or, it's SAMBA and some part of the NetworkBrowser on the Windows
    side isn't working right).

    sudo mount -vvv -t cifs //192.168.1.66/alan/ /spare/churchill/alan/ -o rw,noperm,username=alan,password=<my_password>,vers=1.0,uid=alan

        Paul

    Thanks, Paul.

    This is really complete information but very complicated. I will work it out. But bullwinkle@ZORO? What does it stand for? What should I fill in?

    Regards,
    Fokke


    :-)

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf

    I should have stripped off the host string.
    Like this. It is just meant to be the listdir command.

    $ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf

    That particular file shows up, if samba-common package is installed.
    It's not in Zorin right after you install the OS. If the file exists,
    then you know that some part of SAMBA is already present. Then you
    add a bunch of lines just below "workgroup = WORKGROUP" line.

    "bullwinkle" is the user account I use for all sorts of test setups.
    It's from the TV cartoon series "Rocky and Bullwinkle".

    Since the Zorin distro begins with a Z, I made my host name ZORO,
    or perhaps it should have been ZORRO :-) I'm sure yours has a better-chosen host name than that.

    Installing SAMBA, and editing the smb.conf file, is mainly what
    you need to do.

    When in nautilus/"files" File Manager, use Other Locations,
    then use the Connect box at the bottom, and enter smb://hostname/sharename
    and that should work. The Windows Network choice, that never works...

    Paul

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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Dec 6 10:26:45 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 05/12/2023 11:22, Paul wrote:
    On 12/5/2023 3:40 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 05/12/2023 01:23, Paul wrote:
    On 12/4/2023 2:44 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Well, we know right away, you're not running SMBV1, so we don't
    need to worry about that. If you have a NAS, a lot of those older
    ones, will have SMBV1 as their only dialect of SAMBA.

    There is SAMBA Client and SAMBA Server on a Linux box. The Server
    is invoked, when you do Properties on a folder and select the Sharing
    function. It will tell you it "needs to install some software".
    The first time I saw a working serving setup, that's what it does,
    is install two packages.

    Out of the box, Zorin is poorly prepared (behavior copied STRAIGHT from Ubuntu!).

        sudo add-apt-repository universe     # Placed in my notes file, some years ago now.
        sudo add-apt-repository multiverse   # A Ubuntu Purity-ism.
        sudo apt-get update
        sudo apt-get install synaptic
        sudo synaptic                        # Now we have a synaptic for later.

        sudo apt install samba               # meta-package, includes samba-common

    Now you have a   /etc/samba/smb.conf  file. That's what the first six lines give us.

    For example, at this point:

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf
    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ps aguwwwx | grep smbd
    root        6817  0.0  0.8  96888 24320 ?        Ss   18:17   0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd --foreground --no-process-group

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ps aguwwwx | grep nmbd

    root        6807  0.0  0.5  80520 15360 ?        Ss   18:17   0:00 /usr/sbin/nmbd --foreground --no-process-group

    sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf

        workgroup = WORKGROUP                # Now we add some settings. The setting already there, assumes WORKGROUP is the one.

        server min protocol = NT1
        server max protocol = smb3
        client min protocol = NT1
        client max protocol = smb3
        client lanman auth = yes
        ntlm auth = yes

    Now, we add ourselves to some password thing,
    using the same password as our account. Or so.

    $ sudo smbpasswd -a bullwinkle

    [sudo] password for bullwinkle:
    New SMB password:
    Retype new SMB password:
    Added user bullwinkle.

    Reboot Zorin so it all "takes". Easier than messing with systemd for me. >>>
    At this point, outgoing from Zorin to DailyDriver works, but only this way. >>> Even though nmbd is running, no luck with symbolic naming is evident.
    However, if I go to the Nautilus "Connect box" at the bottom of "Other Locations",
    and I enter smb://wallace/shared, that works, which means nameserving
    works a little bit, but it refuses to scan the network and make
    a list for us. This appears to be the only defect.

    nautilus smb://192.168.2.100/shared    # Requests authentication
    nautilus smb://wallace/shared          # This format may work -- test it.

    *******

    Now, I will test server side. I highlight my Downloads folder,
    select Properties, then "Local Network Share".

    It presented one dialog, but now seems to be stalled. Even though it is stalled,
    I close the Properties dialog, on the premise it is finished. It's possible >>> installing the samba metapackage, provided the two packages needed (which it
    would normally manually install and would need sudo).

    Downloads folder, now has a purple sub-icon.

    And I know one thing I did wrong, is I now need to change the Networking >>> from "NAT" to "Bridged Adapter" on my Virtual Machine with ZORO in it.
    And now I'll reboot Zorin, so this has a chance to initialize properly.

    These are my test results.

        [Picture]

         https://i.postimg.cc/qqdfjLXx/Zorin-Windows-SAMBA.gif

    *********************** Additional notes (of no particular value *********************

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/samba

        client min protocol = CORE

        "To provide basic file sharing through SMB, enable/start smb.service"
        "nmb.service is not required. However, it is needed to access
         Samba servers by hostname (e.g. smb://hostname/) for some hosts." >>>
        systemctl status smbd nmbd
        sudo systemctl start smbd nmbd

    *******

    Mounting a share, looks like this. The IP address is used, as nmbd is likely
    not running (or, it's SAMBA and some part of the NetworkBrowser on the Windows
    side isn't working right).

    sudo mount -vvv -t cifs //192.168.1.66/alan/ /spare/churchill/alan/ -o rw,noperm,username=alan,password=<my_password>,vers=1.0,uid=alan

        Paul

    Thanks, Paul.

    This is really complete information but very complicated. I will work it out.
    But bullwinkle@ZORO? What does it stand for? What should I fill in?

    Regards,
    Fokke


    :-)

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf

    I should have stripped off the host string.
    Like this. It is just meant to be the listdir command.

    $ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf

    That particular file shows up, if samba-common package is installed.
    It's not in Zorin right after you install the OS. If the file exists,
    then you know that some part of SAMBA is already present. Then you
    add a bunch of lines just below "workgroup = WORKGROUP" line.

    "bullwinkle" is the user account I use for all sorts of test setups.
    It's from the TV cartoon series "Rocky and Bullwinkle".

    Since the Zorin distro begins with a Z, I made my host name ZORO,
    or perhaps it should have been ZORRO :-) I'm sure yours has a better-chosen host name than that.

    Installing SAMBA, and editing the smb.conf file, is mainly what
    you need to do.

    When in nautilus/"files" File Manager, use Other Locations,
    then use the Connect box at the bottom, and enter smb://hostname/sharename and that should work. The Windows Network choice, that never works...

    Paul


    Aha, bullwinkle is the user account and ZORO is the hostname.
    Now I can fill in my own details.

    I'm curious.

    Fokke

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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Dec 6 13:54:11 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 05/12/2023 00:04, Heinz Schmitz wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our
    Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the
    laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed
    Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows
    network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the
    Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    I always try with "ping" first. If that works, the hardware is ok.
    Then I check the settings of TCP.

    Regards,
    H.



    Well,
    The ping to the Windows server in the network works!
    What to do next?

    Regards,
    Fokke

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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Dec 6 14:33:03 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 05/12/2023 01:23, Paul wrote:
    On 12/4/2023 2:44 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Well, we know right away, you're not running SMBV1, so we don't
    need to worry about that. If you have a NAS, a lot of those older
    ones, will have SMBV1 as their only dialect of SAMBA.

    There is SAMBA Client and SAMBA Server on a Linux box. The Server
    is invoked, when you do Properties on a folder and select the Sharing function. It will tell you it "needs to install some software".
    The first time I saw a working serving setup, that's what it does,
    is install two packages.

    Out of the box, Zorin is poorly prepared (behavior copied STRAIGHT from Ubuntu!).

    sudo add-apt-repository universe # Placed in my notes file, some years ago now.
    sudo add-apt-repository multiverse # A Ubuntu Purity-ism.
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get install synaptic
    sudo synaptic # Now we have a synaptic for later.

    sudo apt install samba # meta-package, includes samba-common

    This is what I did.

    Now you have a /etc/samba/smb.conf file. That's what the first six lines give us.

    For example, at this point:

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf
    /etc/samba/smb.conf

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ps aguwwwx | grep smbd
    root 6817 0.0 0.8 96888 24320 ? Ss 18:17 0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd --foreground --no-process-group

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ps aguwwwx | grep nmbd

    root 6807 0.0 0.5 80520 15360 ? Ss 18:17 0:00 /usr/sbin/nmbd --foreground --no-process-group

    I haven't seen this.

    sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf

    workgroup = WORKGROUP # Now we add some settings. The setting already there, assumes WORKGROUP is the one.

    server min protocol = NT1
    server max protocol = smb3
    client min protocol = NT1
    client max protocol = smb3
    client lanman auth = yes
    ntlm auth = yes

    This is what I did.

    Now, we add ourselves to some password thing,
    using the same password as our account. Or so.

    $ sudo smbpasswd -a bullwinkle

    [sudo] password for bullwinkle:
    New SMB password:
    Retype new SMB password:
    Added user bullwinkle.

    This is what I did.

    Reboot Zorin so it all "takes". Easier than messing with systemd for me.

    Wasn't able to reboot it. Switched it off and on again.

    At this point, outgoing from Zorin to DailyDriver works, but only this way. Even though nmbd is running, no luck with symbolic naming is evident. However, if I go to the Nautilus "Connect box" at the bottom of "Other Locations",
    and I enter smb://wallace/shared, that works, which means nameserving
    works a little bit, but it refuses to scan the network and make
    a list for us. This appears to be the only defect.

    nautilus smb://192.168.2.100/shared # Requests authentication
    nautilus smb://wallace/shared # This format may work -- test it.

    This did not work.

    *******

    Now, I will test server side. I highlight my Downloads folder,
    select Properties, then "Local Network Share".

    It presented one dialog, but now seems to be stalled. Even though it is stalled,
    I close the Properties dialog, on the premise it is finished. It's possible installing the samba metapackage, provided the two packages needed (which it would normally manually install and would need sudo).

    Downloads folder, now has a purple sub-icon.

    And I know one thing I did wrong, is I now need to change the Networking
    from "NAT" to "Bridged Adapter" on my Virtual Machine with ZORO in it.
    And now I'll reboot Zorin, so this has a chance to initialize properly.

    These are my test results.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/qqdfjLXx/Zorin-Windows-SAMBA.gif

    *********************** Additional notes (of no particular value *********************

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/samba

    client min protocol = CORE

    "To provide basic file sharing through SMB, enable/start smb.service"
    "nmb.service is not required. However, it is needed to access
    Samba servers by hostname (e.g. smb://hostname/) for some hosts."

    systemctl status smbd nmbd
    sudo systemctl start smbd nmbd

    *******

    Mounting a share, looks like this. The IP address is used, as nmbd is likely not running (or, it's SAMBA and some part of the NetworkBrowser on the Windows
    side isn't working right).

    sudo mount -vvv -t cifs //192.168.1.66/alan/ /spare/churchill/alan/ -o rw,noperm,username=alan,password=<my_password>,vers=1.0,uid=alan

    Paul

    Thanks, Paul. I tried but it did not work.
    It's too complicated for me. I give it up.
    Thanks for your help.

    Regards,
    Fokke

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  • From Chris Elvidge@chris@mshome.net to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Dec 6 15:30:22 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 04/12/2023 19:44, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our
    Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows
    network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Assuming that the Windows boxes get their IP addresses from a central
    router or other DHCP server, can the VM see the same server?
    Don't know about VMWare, but in Virtual Box one can set up a "bridged"
    adapter to access the same network as the Windows host, and hence
    connection.
    --
    Chris Elvidge, England
    RALPH WON'T "MORPH" IF YOU SQUEEZE HIM HARD ENOUGH
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  • From Jonathan N. Little@lws4art@gmail.com to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Dec 6 11:52:48 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 05/12/2023 11:22, Paul wrote:

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf


    Aha, bullwinkle is the user account and ZORO is the hostname.
    Now I can fill in my own details.

    I'm curious.


    You don't. bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf
    |_________________||_____________________|
    Command Prompt The Command

    The command prompt which be whatever your user name is and whatever your machines name is: YOUR_USER_NAME@YOUR_HOST_NAME

    That part you only need to type is the command after the '$' in the prompt
    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Dec 6 20:46:03 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 06/12/2023 17:52, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
    Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 05/12/2023 11:22, Paul wrote:

    bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf


    Aha, bullwinkle is the user account and ZORO is the hostname.
    Now I can fill in my own details.

    I'm curious.


    You don't. bullwinkle@ZORO:~$ ls /etc/samba/smb.conf
    |_________________||_____________________|
    Command Prompt The Command

    The command prompt which be whatever your user name is and whatever your machines name is: YOUR_USER_NAME@YOUR_HOST_NAME

    That part you only need to type is the command after the '$' in the prompt



    Thanks. I just found it out today. I'm not so very familiar with Linux.

    Regards,
    Fokke
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Dec 6 20:49:43 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 06/12/2023 16:30, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 04/12/2023 19:44, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our
    Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the
    laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I
    installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the
    Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can
    connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Assuming that the Windows boxes get their IP addresses from a central
    router or other DHCP server,

    Yes, the router gifs all pc's a fixed IP address.

    can the VM see the same server?

    From the command line in Zorin I can ping the server.

    Don't know about VMWare, but in Virtual Box one can set up a "bridged" adapter to access the same network as the Windows host, and hence connection.

    Don't know as to why VMWare can do this as well. I'll have a look.

    With regards,
    Fokke


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  • From Chris Elvidge@chris@mshome.net to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Dec 6 20:59:08 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 06/12/2023 19:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 16:30, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 04/12/2023 19:44, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our
    Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the
    laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I
    installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the
    Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can
    connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Assuming that the Windows boxes get their IP addresses from a central
    router or other DHCP server,

    Yes, the router gifs all pc's a fixed IP address.

    can the VM see the same server?

    From the command line in Zorin I can ping the server.

    Don't know about VMWare, but in Virtual Box one can set up a "bridged"
    adapter to access the same network as the Windows host, and hence
    connection.

    Don't know as to why VMWare can do this as well. I'll have a look.

    With regards,
    Fokke



    https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Player-for-Windows/17.0/com.vmware.player.win.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html
    --
    Chris Elvidge, England
    I WILL NOT DEMAND WHAT I'M WORTH
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Dec 6 19:02:45 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 12/6/2023 2:46 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Thanks. I just found it out today. I'm not so very familiar with Linux.

    Regards,
    Fokke

    I thought you'd been running Zorin before, an earlier version ?

    Paul

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Wed Dec 6 20:00:11 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 12/6/2023 3:59 PM, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 19:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 16:30, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 04/12/2023 19:44, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Assuming that the Windows boxes get their IP addresses from a central router or other DHCP server,

    ;Yes, the router gifs all pc's a fixed IP address.

    can the VM see the same server?

    ;From the command line in Zorin I can ping the server.

    Don't know about VMWare, but in Virtual Box one can set up a "bridged" adapter to access the same network as the Windows host, and hence connection.

    Don't know as to why VMWare can do this as well. I'll have a look.

    With regards,
    Fokke



    https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Player-for-Windows/17.0/com.vmware.player.win.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html



    I've only got one VM in a VMWare, and there is
    an easy Bridged box to use.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/RFjqHfrf/vmware-bridged.gif

    When I tried it, and checked the IP config, the
    address fetched was a DHCP one, and within the same
    subnet (and subnet mask) as the other physical machines here.

    Paul
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Dec 7 09:55:09 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 07/12/2023 01:02, Paul wrote:
    On 12/6/2023 2:46 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:

    Thanks. I just found it out today. I'm not so very familiar with Linux.

    Regards,
    Fokke

    I thought you'd been running Zorin before, an earlier version ?

    Paul


    Yes, Zorin 12.4 and 15. But I only installed it in VMWare, and never
    went any further as I wanted to do now. I only wanted to see how it
    looked like, but never used it.

    Fokke


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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Dec 7 10:16:54 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 06/12/2023 21:59, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 19:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 16:30, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 04/12/2023 19:44, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our
    Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and
    the laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I
    installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the
    Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can
    connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Assuming that the Windows boxes get their IP addresses from a central
    router or other DHCP server,

    ;Yes, the router gifs all pc's a fixed IP address.

    can the VM see the same server?

    ;From the command line in Zorin I can ping the server.

    Don't know about VMWare, but in Virtual Box one can set up a
    "bridged" adapter to access the same network as the Windows host, and
    hence connection.

    Don't know as to why VMWare can do this as well. I'll have a look.

    With regards,
    Fokke



    https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Player-for-Windows/17.0/com.vmware.player.win.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html



    Thanks.
    I did. In the Networks on Zorin I can now see Fokke-virtual-machine, but
    in the Windows network there is nothing.
    Neither can I see the Zorin machine from the Windows network.

    Regards,
    Fokke
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Dec 7 10:18:34 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 07/12/2023 02:00, Paul wrote:
    On 12/6/2023 3:59 PM, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 19:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 16:30, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 04/12/2023 19:44, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Assuming that the Windows boxes get their IP addresses from a central router or other DHCP server,

    t;Yes, the router gifs all pc's a fixed IP address.

    can the VM see the same server?

    t;From the command line in Zorin I can ping the server.

    Don't know about VMWare, but in Virtual Box one can set up a "bridged" adapter to access the same network as the Windows host, and hence connection.

    Don't know as to why VMWare can do this as well. I'll have a look.

    With regards,
    Fokke



    https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Player-for-Windows/17.0/com.vmware.player.win.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html



    I've only got one VM in a VMWare, and there is
    an easy Bridged box to use.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/RFjqHfrf/vmware-bridged.gif

    When I tried it, and checked the IP config, the
    address fetched was a DHCP one, and within the same
    subnet (and subnet mask) as the other physical machines here.

    Paul

    Thanks for your picture. The same situation as in my Zorin machine. But
    I still can't see the Windows machines.

    Regards,
    Fokke
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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Dec 7 05:28:18 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 12/7/2023 4:16 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 21:59, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 19:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 16:30, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 04/12/2023 19:44, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Assuming that the Windows boxes get their IP addresses from a central router or other DHCP server,

    ;Yes, the router gifs all pc's a fixed IP address.

    can the VM see the same server?

    ;From the command line in Zorin I can ping the server.

    Don't know about VMWare, but in Virtual Box one can set up a "bridged" adapter to access the same network as the Windows host, and hence connection.

    Don't know as to why VMWare can do this as well. I'll have a look.

    With regards,
    Fokke



    https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Player-for-Windows/17.0/com.vmware.player.win.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html



    Thanks.
    I did. In the Networks on Zorin I can now see Fokke-virtual-machine, but in the Windows network there is nothing.
    Neither can I see the Zorin machine from the Windows network.

    Regards,
    Fokke

    Do you use workgroup=WORKGROUP on Windows, or
    are you using workgroup=MSHONE ?

    Note: For some reason, Windows Defender has taken a dislike to this program.
    You probably won't be able to download the Windows version onto the Windows10 side for test.
    Can't get the Linux version to run in Zoran (but using their tarball and "make" worked OK).
    But I was able to get the download over to Windows7.

    http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan.html

    I scanned my subnet and I can see Zoran (hostname ZORO) from Windows 7.

    You can see all my workgroup names are WORKGROUP.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/rwCf9ktF/nbtscan-from-win7.gif

    If you download the tarball from that site, make a folder,
    drop the tarball (.tar.gz) into the folder, use nautilus/files
    file manager, right-click it and use Archive Manager to unpack the file
    and just Extract it right into the folder with the tarball.

    From a terminal in Utilities, cd to the work folder with
    the materials in it, and type

    cd ~/Downloads/NBTSCAN # The folder I unpacked into

    make

    and it will use cc that is already aliased in the OS for you.

    Then, while Cded into that folder on the command line,
    you can run the local copy you just made with "make". Using
    dot in this way, picks up the current working directory as
    the source of the named executable.

    ./nbtscan 192.168.2.0/24 # Adjust the address for the subnet *you* are using :-)

    And the output will list the workgroup name as
    well as the IP addresses of your boxes.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/pTsP34hD/nbtscan-from-zoran.gif

    That will build our confidence that the "wiring" and a certain
    amount of the setup, are working.

    My bridged VM then, is just like the physical machines on my
    subnet, when it comes to IP addresses and "being on the same subnet".

    Paul
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  • From Fokke Nauta@usenet@solfon.nl to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Dec 7 14:07:19 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 07/12/2023 11:28, Paul wrote:
    On 12/7/2023 4:16 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 21:59, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 19:49, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    On 06/12/2023 16:30, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 04/12/2023 19:44, Fokke Nauta wrote:
    Hi all,

    We have 4 Windows PC's and 2 Windows laptops, all connected to our Windows network. All of them can connect to files on the PC's and the laptops.
    On one of the PC's there is a virtual Machine, VMWare. There I installed Zorin 17 Core Beta, which works fine. But it can't see the Windows network. How can I achieve that this virtual machine can connect to the Windows network and can connect to the other pc's?
    I'm curious if it will be possible.
    Many thanks in advance for your responses.

    Fokke Nauta

    Assuming that the Windows boxes get their IP addresses from a central router or other DHCP server,

    t;Yes, the router gifs all pc's a fixed IP address.

    can the VM see the same server?

    t;From the command line in Zorin I can ping the server.

    Don't know about VMWare, but in Virtual Box one can set up a "bridged" adapter to access the same network as the Windows host, and hence connection.

    Don't know as to why VMWare can do this as well. I'll have a look.

    With regards,
    Fokke



    https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Workstation-Player-for-Windows/17.0/com.vmware.player.win.using.doc/GUID-826323AD-D014-475D-8909-DFA73B5A3A57.html



    Thanks.
    I did. In the Networks on Zorin I can now see Fokke-virtual-machine, but in the Windows network there is nothing.
    Neither can I see the Zorin machine from the Windows network.

    Regards,
    Fokke

    Do you use workgroup=WORKGROUP on Windows, or
    are you using workgroup=MSHONE ?

    I use WORKGROUP in the Windows network.

    Note: For some reason, Windows Defender has taken a dislike to this program.

    I have disabled Windows Defender.

    You probably won't be able to download the Windows version onto the Windows10 side for test.
    Can't get the Linux version to run in Zoran (but using their tarball and "make" worked OK).
    But I was able to get the download over to Windows7.

    http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan.html

    I scanned my subnet and I can see Zoran (hostname ZORO) from Windows 7.

    I can't (from W10).

    You can see all my workgroup names are WORKGROUP.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/rwCf9ktF/nbtscan-from-win7.gif

    nbtscan.exe is not available on my pc (W10 Pro).

    If you download the tarball from that site, make a folder,
    drop the tarball (.tar.gz) into the folder, use nautilus/files
    file manager, right-click it and use Archive Manager to unpack the file
    and just Extract it right into the folder with the tarball.

    From a terminal in Utilities, cd to the work folder with
    the materials in it, and type

    cd ~/Downloads/NBTSCAN # The folder I unpacked into

    make

    and it will use cc that is already aliased in the OS for you.

    Then, while Cded into that folder on the command line,
    you can run the local copy you just made with "make". Using
    dot in this way, picks up the current working directory as
    the source of the named executable.

    ./nbtscan 192.168.2.0/24 # Adjust the address for the subnet *you* are using :-)

    And the output will list the workgroup name as
    well as the IP addresses of your boxes.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/pTsP34hD/nbtscan-from-zoran.gif

    That will build our confidence that the "wiring" and a certain
    amount of the setup, are working.

    My bridged VM then, is just like the physical machines on my
    subnet, when it comes to IP addresses and "being on the same subnet".

    Paul

    Regards,
    Fokke

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to alt.os.linux.ubuntu on Thu Dec 7 09:42:03 2023
    From Newsgroup: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

    On 12/7/2023 8:07 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:


    nbtscan.exe is not available on my pc (W10 Pro).

    This site has both a Windows EXE executable, as well as a
    .tar.gz tarball with source in it. Unpack the tarball
    in Linux, into a folder, fire up Terminal, CD to the
    directory with the source, type make and
    the executable will appear in about five seconds.
    Then ./nbtscan 192.168.2.0/24 will scan a 256 node subnet.

    http://www.unixwiz.net/tools/nbtscan.html

    On Windows, you could use Command Prompt or the Terminal with
    the powershell in it.

    .\nbtscan.exe 192.168.2.0/24

    Paul
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