There appears to be no activity here since July 16th! Is this
newsgroup dead? Where did everyone go?
On 05/08/2025 18:51, rsutton wrote:
There appears to be no activity here since July 16th! Is this
newsgroup dead? Where did everyone go?
They're still not back from Spring Break.
On 8/5/2025 1:55 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 05/08/2025 18:51, rsutton wrote:
There appears to be no activity here since July 16th! Is this
newsgroup dead? Where did everyone go?
They're still not back from Spring Break.
Thanks for the reply. I thought maybe the group was dead!😂
Richard
On 05/08/2025 23:35, rsutton wrote:
On 8/5/2025 1:55 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 05/08/2025 18:51, rsutton wrote:
There appears to be no activity here since July 16th! Is this
newsgroup dead? Where did everyone go?
They're still not back from Spring Break.
Thanks for the reply. I thought maybe the group was dead!😂
Richard
In general, the best way to test whether a group is still active
and able to engage in discussions is to attempt to engage it in a
topical discussion.
For example, one might enquire whether there's any way to stop
Ubuntu's ridiculous habit of snatching focus with a window that
says, in effect, "just press ENTER to make an irrevocable
life-changing decision and if you happen to be typing while not
looking at your screen, tough shit."
[...] what really annoys me is that you
can be doing something like entering a remembered password, and the
pop-up box comes up mid-entry and just stops your memorised password
dead. You have to then: a. Check to see what the damn box is
telling you; b. delete said box; c. Clear the partially entered
password and enter it from scratch.
Grrrr.
There appears to be no activity here since July 16th! Is this newsgroup dead? Where did everyone go?
Richard
I don't use this newsgroup, but I still have a 22.04 partition that I
boot up sometimes. Ubuntu was an up-and-coming thing at one time. Too
bad it's not more popular.
On 06/08/2025 10:20, Davey wrote:
[...] what really annoys me is that you
can be doing something like entering a remembered password, and the
pop-up box comes up mid-entry and just stops your memorised password
dead. You have to then: a. Check to see what the damn box is
telling you; b. delete said box; c. Clear the partially entered
password and enter it from scratch.
Grrrr.
What he said!!
Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 06/08/2025 10:20, Davey wrote:
[...] what really annoys me is that you
can be doing something like entering a remembered password, and the
pop-up box comes up mid-entry and just stops your memorised
password dead. You have to then: a. Check to see what the damn box
is telling you; b. delete said box; c. Clear the partially entered
password and enter it from scratch.
Grrrr.
What he said!!
What steals your focus? A notification? If so I hadn't notice. If you
want something that steals you focus, try this $%%$##S Windows 11, distraction galore!
As I said, a pop-up box suddenly appears to tell me something that does
not, at least then, interest me.
This is on Ubuntu 22.04. I have no idea if it's Gnome or Firefox or
whatever, but I don't remember the same thing with Ubuntu 18.04.
Davey wrote:
As I said, a pop-up box suddenly appears to tell me something that
does not, at least then, interest me.
This is on Ubuntu 22.04. I have no idea if it's Gnome or Firefox or whatever, but I don't remember the same thing with Ubuntu 18.04.
We if it is within a web browser, then it is the configuration of the website, not OS. Even so if I am using a terminal window or Libre
Office document with a web browser window open, a popup there never
took my focus from my active window. I use standard Ubuntu GNOME
desktop and even notifications never stole my focus. My only issue
with Ubuntu is on laptops that setting to disable touchpad while
typing never seems to work and an accidental touch does steal my
focus! (I predate leaning "keyboarding" in school)
It is Thunderbird's Calendar reminders. I also get the ones that I
can't stop that come from what I believe is from the gmail mother ship,
but the box displays no information as to its heritage. I remember
trying to get rid of it as soon as I had installed 22.04, and
encountered this obtrusive thing for the first time, but all advice did
not stop it, so I just live with it. At some point, it's better to just
get on with life rather than waste more time.
For interest, I have never been bothered by accidental touchpad
operation. Maybe, as I never use it except on very rare occasions, its sensitivity is set lower than yours.
Davey wrote:
We if it is within a web browser, then it is the configuration of the website, not OS. Even so if I am using a terminal window or Libre Office document with a web browser window open, a popup there never took my
focus from my active window. I use standard Ubuntu GNOME desktop and
even notifications never stole my focus. My only issue with Ubuntu is on laptops that setting to disable touchpad while typing never seems to
work and an accidental touch does steal my focus! (I predate leaning "keyboarding" in school)
There appears to be no activity here since July 16th!We don't talk much.
Is this newsgroup dead?Hell No, it's very much alive.
Where did everyone go?Wherever people want to go, there's many places today to choose.
On Fri, 8 Aug 2025 17:09:06 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Davey wrote:
[snip]
We if it is within a web browser, then it is the configuration of the
website, not OS. Even so if I am using a terminal window or Libre Office
document with a web browser window open, a popup there never took my
focus from my active window. I use standard Ubuntu GNOME desktop and
even notifications never stole my focus. My only issue with Ubuntu is on
laptops that setting to disable touchpad while typing never seems to
work and an accidental touch does steal my focus! (I predate leaning
"keyboarding" in school)
I've often had touchpads that do that, as well as "clicking" on something
I just want to move the pointer over.
Because of those things, I normally disable the touchpad and use something else. This particular laptop (Lenovo ThinkPad) had a pointing stick
(between the G H and B keys) without that problem. It can be easier to use an external mouse (wireless with small receiver if tangling cords are a problem).
There appears to be no activity here since July 16th! Is this newsgroup dead? Where did everyone go?
Richard
It can be easier to use=======================
an external mouse (wireless with small receiver if tangling cords are a
Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 06/08/2025 10:20, Davey wrote:
[...] what really annoys me is that you
can be doing something like entering a remembered password, and the
pop-up box comes up mid-entry and just stops your memorised password
dead. You have to then: a. Check to see what the damn box is
telling you; b. delete said box; c. Clear the partially entered
password and enter it from scratch.
Grrrr.
What he said!!
What steals your focus? A notification? If so I hadn't notice.
If you
want something that steals you focus, try this $%%$##S Windows 11, distraction galore!
On 08/08/2025 12:58, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 06/08/2025 10:20, Davey wrote:
[...] what really annoys me is that you
can be doing something like entering a remembered password, and the
pop-up box comes up mid-entry and just stops your memorised password
dead. You have to then: a. Check to see what the damn box is
telling you; b. delete said box; c. Clear the partially entered
password and enter it from scratch.
Grrrr.
What he said!!
What steals your focus? A notification? If so I hadn't notice.
Just happened again. It was a "do you want to upgrade lots of programs
you never use? It's no bother, honestly". I was typing when the keyboard stopped responding for no apparent reason, and was 7 or 8 chars in
before I noticed. If it wants to talk to me, fine, but it shouldn't grab
my lapels for something trivial or non-urgent. A news-style scrolling marquee would do it, and on a window I can hide.
If you
want something that steals you focus, try this $%%$##S Windows 11,
distraction galore!
Um, quite so. Having Windowed from 2 to 7 or so, I eventually just
stopped bothering.
Which version of Ubuntu are you on? I am using 24.04, and just logged
into my ThinkPad and while I was working the upgrade popup did appear
and on top, but still did not steal my focus. Yes still annoying.
However in earlier versions you can disable that popup in Settings > Notifications > Software Updater. But it looks like it is missing on
both my laptops running 24.04. It appears Canonical made a change in
24.04. I am looking for where they moved the setting to, because I do
not mind if a notification toast occurred, but a popup dialog is distracting. But as I said, at least in my experience is does steal
focus. I am looking is there is some dconf teak or some GNOME extension
that would work. Maybe even some systemd service edit.
On 9/6/25 1:31 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 08/08/2025 12:58, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
Richard Heathfield wrote:
On 06/08/2025 10:20, Davey wrote:
[...] what really annoys me is that you
can be doing something like entering a remembered password,
and the
pop-up box comes up mid-entry and just stops your memorised
password
dead. You have to then: a. Check to see what the damn box is
telling you; b. delete said box; c. Clear the partially entered
password and enter it from scratch.
Grrrr.
What he said!!
What steals your focus? A notification? If so I hadn't notice.
Just happened again. It was a "do you want to upgrade lots of
programs you never use? It's no bother, honestly". I was typing
when the keyboard stopped responding for no apparent reason,
and was 7 or 8 chars in before I noticed. If it wants to talk
to me, fine, but it shouldn't grab my lapels for something
trivial or non-urgent. A news-style scrolling marquee would do
it, and on a window I can hide.
If you
want something that steals you focus, try this $%%$##S Windows
11,
distraction galore!
Um, quite so. Having Windowed from 2 to 7 or so, I eventually
just stopped bothering.
Which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[...] However in earlier versions you can disable that
popup in Settings > Notifications > Software Updater.
That said, I think you should update your system, and it is bad
practice not to do so.
On 06/09/2025 16:26, Jonathan N Little wrote:
<snip>
That said, I think you should update your system, and it is bad
practice not to do so.
Yes, but it should be a conscious part of routine maintenance, not a
decision to be thrust in your face when you are busy with other tasks.
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