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    From Richmond@dnomhcir@gmx.com to comp.ai.philosophy on Thu Sep 4 11:59:27 2025
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    If an AI has passed the Turing test, meaning people cannot tell the
    difference between a human being and a computer by talking to it, then
    how do you know that the AI is not conscious? Look at it the other way,
    a human being failed the Turing test. So human beings are just a load of neurons firing, it's just a trick.

    "GPT-4.5 could fool people into thinking it was another human 73% of the
    time. "..." And 4.5 was even judged to be human significantly *more*
    often than actual humans!"

    Interestingly, the use of *asterisks* has slipped into an HTML article
    where there is no need for them.

    https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/open-ai-gpt-4-5-is-the-first-ai-model-to-pass-an-authentic-turing-test-scientists-say
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  • From Jason H@jason_hindle@yahoo.com to comp.ai.philosophy on Mon Sep 15 21:35:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.ai.philosophy

    On 04/09/2025 11:59, Richmond wrote:
    If an AI has passed the Turing test, meaning people cannot tell the >difference between a human being and a computer by talking to it, then
    how do you know that the AI is not conscious? Look at it the other way,
    a human being failed the Turing test. So human beings are just a load of >neurons firing, it's just a trick.

    "GPT-4.5 could fool people into thinking it was another human 73% of the >time. "..." And 4.5 was even judged to be human significantly *more*
    often than actual humans!"

    Interestingly, the use of *asterisks* has slipped into an HTML article
    where there is no need for them.

    https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/open-ai-gpt-4-5-is-the-first-ai-model-to-pass-an-authentic-turing-test-scientists-say

    It's artificial, but is it intelligent? Breakthroughs are made. Definitions
    and perceptions then shift as bars are raised higher. I think we're in a
    place where the question of fake or not still matters. In philosophy it
    will likely matter for a long time to come. Gen-pop will just be happy to
    have robotic servants (and sex partners). Could AGI be more intelligent
    than humanity and still be fake?
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