• Re: Socratic questioning is required to unmask deceivers --- SemanticProperties of Finite String Inputs

    From olcott@polcott333@gmail.com to comp.theory,comp.ai.philosophy,fa.analytic-philosophy on Wed Oct 15 18:46:32 2025
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    On 10/15/2025 3:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-10-14 16:04:23 +0000, olcott said:

    On 10/14/2025 4:22 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-10-13 16:23:56 +0000, olcott said:

    On 10/13/2025 3:07 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 13/10/2025 08:59, Mikko wrote:
    It seems that everyone who has been reading these discussions does >>>>>> understand or soon will that HHH(DD) returns 0 and that the correct >>>>>> value would be 1 because DD halts

    Even Mr Olcott, in his darker moments.

    LLM systems are 67-fold more powerful than they were
    a year ago because their context widow increased from
    3,000 words to 200,000 words. This is how much stuff
    they can simultaneously keep "in their head".

    It is also very valuable to know that these systems are
    extremely reliable when their reasoning is limited to
    semantic entailment for a well defined set of premises.
    In this case AI hallucination cannot possibly occur.

    Semantic entailment requires semantics. The only meaning an AI can
    attach to any sequence of symbols is the same or anoother sequence
    of symbols.

    It turns out that has always been the way that analytic
    truth has always worked.

    No, the usual meanings of analytic truths refer to abstract objects
    that usually are other that sequences of symbols.


    (1921; Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus, 1922) of Ludwig Wittgenstein.
    *This work introduced a new general theory of meaning* https://www.britannica.com/topic/logical-positivism

    Nature of analytic philosophy
    Analytic philosophers conduct conceptual investigations
    that characteristically, though not invariably, involve
    studies of the language in which the concepts in question
    are, or can be, expressed.
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/analytic-philosophy

    For example, saying
    that every transfinite set is a sequence of symbols is false under the
    usual meanings of the words. There is a model of the first order ZFC
    where every "set" is a finite string but that model is non-standard.

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