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  • Five different LLM systems agree with my rebuttal of the HP proofs.

    From olcott@polcott333@gmail.com to comp.theory,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.ai.philosophy on Tue Sep 2 13:18:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.c

    Five different LLM systems figured out the recursive simulation
    non-halting behavior pattern on their own without prompting.
    They also correctly determined that the HP proof decider would
    be correct to reject its input as non-halting.

    <Input to LLM systems>
    Simulating Termination Analyzer HHH correctly simulates its input until:
    (a) Detects a non-terminating behavior pattern:
    abort simulation and return 0.
    (b) Simulated input reaches its simulated "return" statement:
    return 1.

    typedef int (*ptr)();
    int HHH(ptr P);

    int DD()
    {
    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
    if (Halt_Status)
    HERE: goto HERE;
    return Halt_Status;
    }

    What value should HHH(DD) correctly return?
    <Input to LLM systems>

    https://claude.ai/share/da9e56ba-f4e9-45ee-9f2c-dc5ffe10f00c

    https://chatgpt.com/share/68939ee5-e2f8-8011-837d-438fe8e98b9c

    https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_810120bb-5ab5-4bf8-af21-eedd0f09e141


    Gemini had to be forced into do not guess mode https://g.co/gemini/share/4f44c883b348

    ChatGPT 5.0 had to be forced into do not guess mode https://chatgpt.com/share/68abcbd5-cee4-8011-80d7-93e8385d90d8
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    Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
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