I dunno. Was trying to find another story,
of a scientiest who studies the mind, and
then goes slowly crazy when he discovers
how the mind works. But what I posted
is a **Plot Summmary** of a short story:
"The Nine Billion Names of God" is a
1953 science fiction short story by
British writer Arthur C. Clarke. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Maybe he used some existing Asian lore,
I don't know. Who is an expert in this matter?
WM schrieb:
On 05.10.2025 00:52, Mild Shock wrote:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
A very old story. I read it as a child.
Regards, WM
Mild Shock schrieb:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Hi,
With RAG it could react on news. RAG (Retrieval-
Augmented Generation) and other techniques can
make a local AI evolve dynamically — both in knowledge
and personality. Lets say I put such a AI Persona in
a News Group loop. I could feedback the posts there,
to make it also evolve. One can collect community
reactions (upvotes, replies, sentiment). Or apply automatic
evaluation — e.g., sentiment analysis or engagement
score. This becomes your fitness function.
You can even run multiple personas in the same loop
Different viewpoints (e.g., “optimist”, “skeptic”,
“data scientist”) They interact and debate posts.
This is ideal for dead open source projects, such as
SWI-Prolog, to pretend user participation, very important
in our new marketing world that is totally
engagement focus. The quality(*) of content doesn't count.
LoL
Bye
(*) Same for research paper mills. BTW, ChatGPT suggests
me the following tech stack:
LLM: Ollama (LLaMA 3, Mistral, Gemma, etc.)
LangChain / LlamaIndex: context + memory
ChromaDB / SQLite: memory store
Feedparser / API client: ingest news or group posts
Transformers / VADER: sentiment scoring
Simple scheduler or cron job: to run the loop daily
Mild Shock schrieb:
I dunno. Was trying to find another story,
of a scientiest who studies the mind, and
then goes slowly crazy when he discovers
how the mind works. But what I posted
is a **Plot Summmary** of a short story:
"The Nine Billion Names of God" is a
1953 science fiction short story by
British writer Arthur C. Clarke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Maybe he used some existing Asian lore,
I don't know. Who is an expert in this matter?
WM schrieb:
On 05.10.2025 00:52, Mild Shock wrote:
;;
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
A very old story. I read it as a child.
;
Regards, WM
Mild Shock schrieb:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Hi,
Now I have the feeling we are minutes away
from robotic AI. Wondering why all the AI Laptops
have now GPUs with ray tracing hardware.
Combining LRM (Large Reasoning Models) with a
3D-Worlds modality could do the job. One could
use genetic algorithms to produce synthetic
training data. This might challenge the
connotation behind the holy grail of AI,
called "Embodiment":
"Der Schweizer Informatiker und Robotik-Experte
Rolf Pfeifer nimmt in diesem Kontext den
Standpunkt ein, dass Intelligenz ausschließlich
verkörperten Agenten, d. h. realen physischen
Systemen, deren Verhalten in der Interaktion
mit der Umwelt beobachtbar ist, zugeschrieben
werden kann.",
- How the body shapes the way we think. A new
view of intelligence, Pfeifer & Bongard, 2007
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
Hi,
There are quite some signs of LWM (Large World
Model) AI on the horizon. Like for example:
Controllable World Models are HERE
Explore a playable world model, Marble, from World Labs,
now available for free. This multimodal AI generates 3D
environments from various inputs, including text and images.
Users can navigate, edit, and export these worlds
in multiple formats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QbM6_BSdS0
Grok 5 by Elon Musk — AGI Is Closer Than You Think
Musk's claim that Grok 5 has a "10% and rising" chance
of achieving AGI demands scrutiny. He's gone further,
stating "Grok 5 will be AGI or something indistinguishable
from AGI"—a prediction that would make it the first
system to achieve human-level general intelligence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afsl4qUsfdw
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
Hi,
Now I have the feeling we are minutes away
from robotic AI. Wondering why all the AI Laptops
have now GPUs with ray tracing hardware.
Combining LRM (Large Reasoning Models) with a
3D-Worlds modality could do the job. One could
use genetic algorithms to produce synthetic
training data. This might challenge the
connotation behind the holy grail of AI,
called "Embodiment":
"Der Schweizer Informatiker und Robotik-Experte
Rolf Pfeifer nimmt in diesem Kontext den
Standpunkt ein, dass Intelligenz ausschließlich
verkörperten Agenten, d. h. realen physischen
Systemen, deren Verhalten in der Interaktion
mit der Umwelt beobachtbar ist, zugeschrieben
werden kann.",
- How the body shapes the way we think. A new
view of intelligence, Pfeifer & Bongard, 2007
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
In a Tibetan lamasery, the monks seek to
list all of the names of God. They believe
the Universe was created for this purpose,
and that once this naming is completed, God
will bring the Universe to an end. Three
centuries ago, the monks created an alphabet
in which they calculated they could encode
all the possible names of God, numbering
about 9,000,000,000 ("nine billion") and
each having no more than nine characters.
riting the names out by hand, as they had
been doing, even after eliminating various
nonsense combinations, would take another
15,000 years; the monks wish to use modern
technology to finish this task in 100 days.
They rent a computer capable of printing all
the possible permutations, and hire two
Westerners to install and program the machine.
The computer operators are skeptical but
play along. After three months, as the job
nears completion, they fear that the monks
will blame the computer (and, by extension,
its operators) when nothing happens. The
Westerners leave slightly earlier than their
scheduled departure without warning the monks,
so that it will complete its final print run
shortly after they leave. On their way to the
airfield they pause on the mountain path. Under
a clear night sky they es timate that it must be
just about the time that the monks are pasting
the final printed names into their holy books.
Then they notice that "overhead, without any
fuss, the stars were going out."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God
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