• Using other files for init script

    From Anonymous@no_email@invalid.invalid to comp.lang.tcl on Thu Sep 25 21:32:21 2025
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    Currently tclsh only looks for ~/.tclshrc to run at startup. Many other interpreters provide more configuration, such as examining an environment variable or looking in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME.

    A thin proposal would be to check (in order): $TCLSHRC, then check
    ~/.tclshrc, then check $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/tcl/tclshrc, then finally ~/.config/tcl/tclshrc using the first file that exists as the value of $tcl_rcFileName.
    I was thinking about writing a TIP, but I wanted to first ask if there is a good reason this isn’t currently supported.
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  • From Arjen@user153@newsgrouper.org.invalid to comp.lang.tcl on Mon Oct 13 10:59:06 2025
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    Anonymous <no_email@invalid.invalid> posted:



    Currently tclsh only looks for ~/.tclshrc to run at startup. Many other interpreters provide more configuration, such as examining an environment variable or looking in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME.

    A thin proposal would be to check (in order): $TCLSHRC, then check ~/.tclshrc, then check $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/tcl/tclshrc, then finally ~/.config/tcl/tclshrc using the first file that exists as the value of $tcl_rcFileName.
    I was thinking about writing a TIP, but I wanted to first ask if there is a good reason this isn’t currently supported.

    The advantage of having a TIP is that it is very visible to the community
    and that it can be discussed. One reason for Tcl not supporting it yet is that it has not come to anybody's attention before ;). That, at the very least, is my reason.

    What is the equivalent on other platforms, notably Windows, or is there none?

    Regards,

    Arjen
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  • From Harald Oehlmann@wortkarg3@yahoo.com to comp.lang.tcl on Mon Oct 13 14:05:39 2025
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    Am 13.10.2025 um 12:59 schrieb Arjen:

    Anonymous <no_email@invalid.invalid> posted:



    Currently tclsh only looks for ~/.tclshrc to run at startup. Many other
    interpreters provide more configuration, such as examining an environment
    variable or looking in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME.

    A thin proposal would be to check (in order): $TCLSHRC, then check
    ~/.tclshrc, then check $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/tcl/tclshrc, then finally
    ~/.config/tcl/tclshrc using the first file that exists as the value of
    $tcl_rcFileName.
    I was thinking about writing a TIP, but I wanted to first ask if there is a >> good reason this isn’t currently supported.

    The advantage of having a TIP is that it is very visible to the community
    and that it can be discussed. One reason for Tcl not supporting it yet is that
    it has not come to anybody's attention before ;). That, at the very least, is my reason.

    What is the equivalent on other platforms, notably Windows, or is there none?

    Regards,

    Arjen

    Yes,
    lease look to TIP 732, which addresses this:

    https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/732.md

    On Windows, this is to my knowledge rarely used and is both, a waste of
    time and a security risk. The security risk is specially on Windows, as
    the initialization folder may be writable by other users.

    Harald
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  • From Arjen@user153@newsgrouper.org.invalid to comp.lang.tcl on Mon Oct 13 13:05:27 2025
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    Harald Oehlmann <wortkarg3@yahoo.com> posted:

    Am 13.10.2025 um 12:59 schrieb Arjen:


    What is the equivalent on other platforms, notably Windows, or is there none?

    Regards,

    Arjen

    Yes,
    lease look to TIP 732, which addresses this:

    https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/732.md

    On Windows, this is to my knowledge rarely used and is both, a waste of
    time and a security risk. The security risk is specially on Windows, as
    the initialization folder may be writable by other users.

    Harald

    Thanks for that reference. I agree that it is seldom or never used on Windows, it is a typical UNIX feature. But the security issue may be more limited than you think: the home directory is unreadable for others than the owner (or at least, this is the case on my system).

    Regards,

    Arjen
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