Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the iKooks who are very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris Schram saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" simply because they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware technology.
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the iKooks who
are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs
it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" simply
because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of the conversation.
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the iKooks
who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs
it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" simply
because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware
technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of the
conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
You actually proved my
original contention that iPhone cannot equal Android performance. Unless
you use a wired headphone connected to an external converter. Which of course is no longer a comparison just between two different types of
phones.
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument
which ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you prove to
be a troll.
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the iKooks
who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs
it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris Schram >>>> saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" simply
because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware
technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of the
conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot equal
Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone connected to an
external converter. Which of course is no longer a comparison just
between two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument which
ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a dumbass.
Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you prove to be a
troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was saying
was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15
Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music
player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the iKooks
who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody
needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris
Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" simply >>>>> because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware
technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of the
conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot equal
Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone connected to an
external converter. Which of course is no longer a comparison just
between two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal speakers
implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument which
ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a dumbass.
Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you prove to be a
troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was saying
was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music
player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. End of discussion.
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the iKooks
who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody
needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris
Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" simply >>>>> because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware
technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of the
conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot equal
Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone connected to an
external converter. Which of course is no longer a comparison just
between two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal speakers
implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument which
ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a dumbass.
Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you prove to be a
troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was saying
was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music
player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. End of discussion.
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the iKooks >>>>>> who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody
needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris
Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*"
simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware
technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of the
conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot equal
Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone connected to
an external converter. Which of course is no longer a comparison
just between two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal
speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument which
ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a dumbass. >>>> Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you prove to be a
troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was
saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music
player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the iPhone
itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. End of
discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the iKooks >>>>>> who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody
needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris
Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*"
simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware
technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of the
conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot equal
Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone connected to
an external converter. Which of course is no longer a comparison
just between two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal
speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument which
ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a dumbass. >>>> Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you prove to be a
troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was
saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music
player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the iPhone
itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. End of
discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the
iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody
needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris >>>>>>> Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*"
simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware
technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of the >>>>>> conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot equal >>>>> Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone connected to
an external converter. Which of course is no longer a comparison
just between two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal
speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument which
ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a
dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you
prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was
saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music
player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the iPhone
itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. End of
discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Its hilarious Airpods Max will not support 192/24 bit while Android
maker Samsung will sell you headphones for 19 bucks that will. LMAO.
On 2023-11-23 12:27, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the
iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody >>>>>>>> needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris >>>>>>>> Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*"
simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware >>>>>>>> technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of the >>>>>>> conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot
equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone
connected to an external converter. Which of course is no longer >>>>>> a comparison just between two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal
speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument which >>>>>> ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a
dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you
prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was
saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio
codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits
but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music
player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the
iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. End >>>> of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Its hilarious Airpods Max will not support 192/24 bit while Android
maker Samsung will sell you headphones for 19 bucks that will. LMAO.
Which would those be, little loser?
How can any Bluetooth earbuds/headphones support a data rate of 4.5Mbps...
...when Bluetooth 5.0 maxes out at 2Mbps?
Still not done with losing?
You sure?
:-)
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the
iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody
needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris >>>>>>> Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*"
simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware
technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of the >>>>>> conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot equal >>>>> Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone connected to
an external converter. Which of course is no longer a comparison
just between two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal
speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument which
ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a
dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you
prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was
saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music
player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the iPhone
itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. End of
discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go to
Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
On 11/23/23 12:41 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:27, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the >>>>>>>>> iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody >>>>>>>>> needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne,
Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" >>>>>>>>> simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware >>>>>>>>> technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of >>>>>>>> the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot
equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone
connected to an external converter. Which of course is no longer >>>>>>> a comparison just between two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal
speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument
which ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a >>>>>>> dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you
prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was
saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio
codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits >>>>>> but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music >>>>>> player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the
iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. End >>>>> of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Its hilarious Airpods Max will not support 192/24 bit while Android
maker Samsung will sell you headphones for 19 bucks that will. LMAO.
Which would those be, little loser?
How can any Bluetooth earbuds/headphones support a data rate of
4.5Mbps...
...when Bluetooth 5.0 maxes out at 2Mbps?
Still not done with losing?
You sure?
:-)
You show your lack of knowledge with every post.
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the
iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody >>>>>>>> needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris >>>>>>>> Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*"
simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware >>>>>>>> technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of the >>>>>>> conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot
equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone
connected to an external converter. Which of course is no longer >>>>>> a comparison just between two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal
speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument which >>>>>> ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a
dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you
prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was
saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio
codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits
but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music
player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the
iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. End >>>> of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go to
Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit lossless
audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they can't
output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to "well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product from anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
On 2023-11-23 12:44, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:41 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:27, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the >>>>>>>>>> iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody >>>>>>>>>> needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, >>>>>>>>>> Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" >>>>>>>>>> simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware >>>>>>>>>> technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of >>>>>>>>> the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot >>>>>>>> equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphoneAnd listening to music on anything except the phones internal
connected to an external converter. Which of course is no
longer a comparison just between two different types of phones. >>>>>>>
speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it? >>>>>>>
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument
which ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What >>>>>>>> a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you >>>>>>>> prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant... >>>>>>>
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was >>>>>>> saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio
codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits >>>>>>> but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based
music player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple
Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the
iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. >>>>>> End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Its hilarious Airpods Max will not support 192/24 bit while Android
maker Samsung will sell you headphones for 19 bucks that will. LMAO.
Which would those be, little loser?
How can any Bluetooth earbuds/headphones support a data rate of
4.5Mbps...
...when Bluetooth 5.0 maxes out at 2Mbps?
Still not done with losing?
You sure?
:-)
You show your lack of knowledge with every post.
I've already shown you cites that Bluetooth cannot do lossless audio at 192/24, little loser.
Quick look up the Bluetooth 5.0 spec:
'Bluetooth 5
...
Bluetooth 5 provides, for BLE, options that can double the speed (2
Mbit/s burst) at the expense of range'
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth>
Now let's do what--for me--is basic arithmetic.
192kHz * 24 bits = 4,608kbps.
Or 4.6Mbps (4.5Mbps if you're using the powers of 2 Megabyte).
So please, little loser:
Show us all your "technical competence" and explain how it's done!
:-)
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the >>>>>>>>> iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody >>>>>>>>> needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne,
Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" >>>>>>>>> simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware >>>>>>>>> technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of >>>>>>>> the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot
equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone
connected to an external converter. Which of course is no longer >>>>>>> a comparison just between two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal
speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument
which ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What a >>>>>>> dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you
prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was
saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio
codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits >>>>>> but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music >>>>>> player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the
iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. End >>>>> of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go to
Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit lossless
audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they can't
output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to "well
they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product from anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs. Thats
what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep going in circles.
On 11/23/23 12:52 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:44, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:41 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:27, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:Which would those be, little loser?
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the >>>>>>>>>>> iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" &
"*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, >>>>>>>>>>> Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" >>>>>>>>>>> simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware >>>>>>>>>>> technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of >>>>>>>>>> the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot >>>>>>>>> equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone >>>>>>>>> connected to an external converter. Which of course is no >>>>>>>>> longer a comparison just between two different types of phones. >>>>>>>>And listening to music on anything except the phones internal >>>>>>>> speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it? >>>>>>>>
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument >>>>>>>>> which ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What >>>>>>>>> a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while >>>>>>>>> you prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant... >>>>>>>>
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was >>>>>>>> saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio
codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24
bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based
music player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple >>>>>>>> Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the
iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. >>>>>>> End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Its hilarious Airpods Max will not support 192/24 bit while Android >>>>> maker Samsung will sell you headphones for 19 bucks that will. LMAO. >>>>
How can any Bluetooth earbuds/headphones support a data rate of
4.5Mbps...
...when Bluetooth 5.0 maxes out at 2Mbps?
Still not done with losing?
You sure?
:-)
You show your lack of knowledge with every post.
I've already shown you cites that Bluetooth cannot do lossless audio
at 192/24, little loser.
Quick look up the Bluetooth 5.0 spec:
'Bluetooth 5
...
Bluetooth 5 provides, for BLE, options that can double the speed (2
Mbit/s burst) at the expense of range'
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth>
Now let's do what--for me--is basic arithmetic.
192kHz * 24 bits = 4,608kbps.
Or 4.6Mbps (4.5Mbps if you're using the powers of 2 Megabyte).
So please, little loser:
Show us all your "technical competence" and explain how it's done!
:-)
I already stated that Bluetooth cannot do 192/24. Thats what my
complaint was. Android has other codecs like AptXHD. Apple is stuck
with Bluetooth 5.3.
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the >>>>>>>>>> iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody >>>>>>>>>> needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, >>>>>>>>>> Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" >>>>>>>>>> simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware >>>>>>>>>> technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of >>>>>>>>> the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot >>>>>>>> equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphoneAnd listening to music on anything except the phones internal
connected to an external converter. Which of course is no
longer a comparison just between two different types of phones. >>>>>>>
speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it? >>>>>>>
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument
which ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What >>>>>>>> a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while you >>>>>>>> prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant... >>>>>>>
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was >>>>>>> saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio
codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits >>>>>>> but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based
music player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple
Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the
iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. >>>>>> End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go to
Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit lossless
audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they can't
output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to "well
they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product from
anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs. Thats
what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep going in circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the >>>>>>>>>>> iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" &
"*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, >>>>>>>>>>> Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" >>>>>>>>>>> simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled hardware >>>>>>>>>>> technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of >>>>>>>>>> the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot >>>>>>>>> equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone >>>>>>>>> connected to an external converter. Which of course is no >>>>>>>>> longer a comparison just between two different types of phones. >>>>>>>>And listening to music on anything except the phones internal >>>>>>>> speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it? >>>>>>>>
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument >>>>>>>>> which ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What >>>>>>>>> a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while >>>>>>>>> you prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant... >>>>>>>>
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was >>>>>>>> saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio
codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24
bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based
music player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple >>>>>>>> Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the
iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. >>>>>>> End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go to
Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit lossless
audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they can't
output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to "well
they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product from
anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs. Thats >>> what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep going in circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement.
On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the >>>>>>>>>>>> iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & >>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs it*" >>>>>>>>>>>> simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled
hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side of >>>>>>>>>>> the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said.
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot >>>>>>>>>> equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone >>>>>>>>>> connected to an external converter. Which of course is no >>>>>>>>>> longer a comparison just between two different types of phones. >>>>>>>>>And listening to music on anything except the phones internal >>>>>>>>> speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it? >>>>>>>>>
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument >>>>>>>>>> which ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. >>>>>>>>>> What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert >>>>>>>>>> while you prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant... >>>>>>>>>
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he was >>>>>>>>> saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio >>>>>>>>> codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 >>>>>>>>> bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based >>>>>>>>> music player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple >>>>>>>>> Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the >>>>>>>> iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. >>>>>>>> End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go to >>>>>> Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit lossless
audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they can't
output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to "well >>>>> they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product from
anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs.
Thats what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep going in >>>> circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement.
So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally
admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
Questions (yes or no):
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
On 11/23/2023 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & >>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs >>>>>>>>>>>>> it*" simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled >>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side >>>>>>>>>>>> of the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said. >>>>>>>>>>
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone cannot >>>>>>>>>>> equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired headphone >>>>>>>>>>> connected to an external converter. Which of course is no >>>>>>>>>>> longer a comparison just between two different types of phones. >>>>>>>>>>And listening to music on anything except the phones internal >>>>>>>>>> speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't it? >>>>>>>>>>
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument >>>>>>>>>>> which ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. What >>>>>>>>>>> a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert while >>>>>>>>>>> you prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant... >>>>>>>>>>
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he >>>>>>>>>> was saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio >>>>>>>>>> codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 >>>>>>>>>> bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it." >>>>>>>>>>
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit.
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based >>>>>>>>>> music player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple >>>>>>>>>> Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the >>>>>>>>> iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. >>>>>>>>> End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go to >>>>>>> Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit lossless >>>>>> audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they can't >>>>>> output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to
"well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product from
anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs. Thats >>>>> what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep going in
circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement.
So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally
admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
Questions (yes or no):
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
Does the iPhone 15 with nothing added and using Apple headphone products meet or exceed that what is provided by Android?
NO. End of discussion.
On 2023-11-23 13:46, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it*" simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said. >>>>>>>>>>>
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> cannot equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired >>>>>>>>>>>> headphone connected to an external converter. Which of >>>>>>>>>>>> course is no longer a comparison just between two different >>>>>>>>>>>> types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones internal >>>>>>>>>>> speakers implies more than "just between" the phones, doesn't >>>>>>>>>>> it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative argument >>>>>>>>>>>> which ended up proving my assertion Android is superior. >>>>>>>>>>>> What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a technical expert >>>>>>>>>>>> while you prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he meant... >>>>>>>>>>>
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he >>>>>>>>>>> was saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio >>>>>>>>>>> codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 >>>>>>>>>>> bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it." >>>>>>>>>>>
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit. >>>>>>>>>>>
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based >>>>>>>>>>> music player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple >>>>>>>>>>> Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above the >>>>>>>>>> iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android superior. >>>>>>>>>> End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go to >>>>>>>> Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit lossless >>>>>>> audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they
can't output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to
"well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product from >>>>>>> anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs.
Thats what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep going >>>>>> in circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement.
So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally
admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
Questions (yes or no):
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
Does the iPhone 15 with nothing added and using Apple headphone
products meet or exceed that what is provided by Android?
NO. End of discussion.
That's an admission that all your earlier arguments were wrong, little loser.
Thank you!
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
You said "no" in your initial post. That was wrong.
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
You said you can't... ...and that was wrong.
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
No, you can't. Not even close.
So anyone who wants to do 192/24 lossless audio from his phone needs to
use wired headphones/earbuds...
...so iPhones and Androids are exactly the same in this.
On 11/23/2023 1:49 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:46, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browne, Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it*" simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my side >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said. >>>>>>>>>>>>
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired >>>>>>>>>>>>> headphone connected to an external converter. Which of >>>>>>>>>>>>> course is no longer a comparison just between two different >>>>>>>>>>>>> types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones
internal speakers implies more than "just between" the >>>>>>>>>>>> phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative >>>>>>>>>>>>> argument which ended up proving my assertion Android is >>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>> technical expert while you prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he >>>>>>>>>>>> meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he >>>>>>>>>>>> was saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio >>>>>>>>>>>> codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 >>>>>>>>>>>> bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not support it." >>>>>>>>>>>>
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based >>>>>>>>>>>> music player to get the best music high fidelity off of >>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above >>>>>>>>>>> the iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android >>>>>>>>>>> superior. End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go >>>>>>>>> to Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit
lossless audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they
can't output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to >>>>>>>> "well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product from >>>>>>>> anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs.
Thats what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep going >>>>>>> in circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement.
So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally
admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
Questions (yes or no):
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
Does the iPhone 15 with nothing added and using Apple headphone
products meet or exceed that what is provided by Android?
NO. End of discussion.
That's an admission that all your earlier arguments were wrong, little
loser.
Thank you!
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
You said "no" in your initial post. That was wrong.
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
You said you can't... ...and that was wrong.
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
No, you can't. Not even close.
So anyone who wants to do 192/24 lossless audio from his phone needs
to use wired headphones/earbuds...
...so iPhones and Androids are exactly the same in this.
By not supporting advanced codecs with iphones and with their headphone products Apple is certainly behind. Nice try at trying to smear the facts. But that is what you always do.
On 2023-11-23 13:57, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:49 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:46, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browne, Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it*" simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired >>>>>>>>>>>>>> headphone connected to an external converter. Which of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> course is no longer a comparison just between two >>>>>>>>>>>>>> different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones >>>>>>>>>>>>> internal speakers implies more than "just between" the >>>>>>>>>>>>> phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative >>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument which ended up proving my assertion Android is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical expert while you prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he >>>>>>>>>>>>> meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he >>>>>>>>>>>>> was saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless >>>>>>>>>>>>> audio codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to >>>>>>>>>>>>> 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not >>>>>>>>>>>>> support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android >>>>>>>>>>>>> based music player to get the best music high fidelity off >>>>>>>>>>>>> of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above >>>>>>>>>>>> the iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android >>>>>>>>>>>> superior. End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go >>>>>>>>>> to Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit
lossless audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they >>>>>>>>> can't output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to >>>>>>>>> "well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product from >>>>>>>>> anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs. >>>>>>>> Thats what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep
going in circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement. >>>>>
admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
Questions (yes or no):
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
Does the iPhone 15 with nothing added and using Apple headphone
products meet or exceed that what is provided by Android?
NO. End of discussion.
That's an admission that all your earlier arguments were wrong,
little loser.
Thank you!
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
You said "no" in your initial post. That was wrong.
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
You said you can't... ...and that was wrong.
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
No, you can't. Not even close.
So anyone who wants to do 192/24 lossless audio from his phone needs
to use wired headphones/earbuds...
...so iPhones and Androids are exactly the same in this.
By not supporting advanced codecs with iphones and with their
headphone products Apple is certainly behind. Nice try at trying to
smear the facts. But that is what you always do.
I never said that Apple was supporting the most advanced codecs.
Do you know what a "straw man argument" is, little loser.
Did you claim that the iPhone 15 did not support lossless audio at
192kHz and 24 bits; yes or no?
On 11/23/23 2:36 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:57, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:49 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:46, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browne, Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it*" simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headphone connected to an external converter. Which of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course is no longer a comparison just between two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones >>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal speakers implies more than "just between" the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument which ended up proving my assertion Android is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical expert while you prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he >>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he was saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless >>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android >>>>>>>>>>>>>> based music player to get the best music high fidelity off >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above >>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android >>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go >>>>>>>>>>> to Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit
lossless audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they >>>>>>>>>> can't output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to >>>>>>>>>> "well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product >>>>>>>>>> from anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs. >>>>>>>>> Thats what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep >>>>>>>>> going in circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement. >>>>>>
admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
Questions (yes or no):
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
Does the iPhone 15 with nothing added and using Apple headphone
products meet or exceed that what is provided by Android?
NO. End of discussion.
That's an admission that all your earlier arguments were wrong,
little loser.
Thank you!
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
You said "no" in your initial post. That was wrong.
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
You said you can't... ...and that was wrong.
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
No, you can't. Not even close.
So anyone who wants to do 192/24 lossless audio from his phone needs
to use wired headphones/earbuds...
...so iPhones and Androids are exactly the same in this.
By not supporting advanced codecs with iphones and with their
headphone products Apple is certainly behind. Nice try at trying to >>> smear the facts. But that is what you always do.
I never said that Apple was supporting the most advanced codecs.
Do you know what a "straw man argument" is, little loser.
Did you claim that the iPhone 15 did not support lossless audio at
192kHz and 24 bits; yes or no?
I claimed Apple did not support 192/24 over its Bluetooth 5.3.
Which is
a true statement.
On 2023-11-23 13:57, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:49 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:46, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browne, Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it*" simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired >>>>>>>>>>>>>> headphone connected to an external converter. Which of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> course is no longer a comparison just between two >>>>>>>>>>>>>> different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones >>>>>>>>>>>>> internal speakers implies more than "just between" the >>>>>>>>>>>>> phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative >>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument which ended up proving my assertion Android is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical expert while you prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he >>>>>>>>>>>>> meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what he >>>>>>>>>>>>> was saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless >>>>>>>>>>>>> audio codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to >>>>>>>>>>>>> 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not >>>>>>>>>>>>> support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android >>>>>>>>>>>>> based music player to get the best music high fidelity off >>>>>>>>>>>>> of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC...
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above >>>>>>>>>>>> the iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android >>>>>>>>>>>> superior. End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go >>>>>>>>>> to Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit
lossless audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they >>>>>>>>> can't output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to >>>>>>>>> "well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product from >>>>>>>>> anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs. >>>>>>>> Thats what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep
going in circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement. >>>>>
admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
Questions (yes or no):
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
Does the iPhone 15 with nothing added and using Apple headphone
products meet or exceed that what is provided by Android?
NO. End of discussion.
That's an admission that all your earlier arguments were wrong,
little loser.
Thank you!
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
You said "no" in your initial post. That was wrong.
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
You said you can't... ...and that was wrong.
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
No, you can't. Not even close.
So anyone who wants to do 192/24 lossless audio from his phone needs
to use wired headphones/earbuds...
...so iPhones and Androids are exactly the same in this.
By not supporting advanced codecs with iphones and with their
headphone products Apple is certainly behind. Nice try at trying to
smear the facts. But that is what you always do.
I never said that Apple was supporting the most advanced codecs.
Do you know what a "straw man argument" is, little loser.
Did you claim that the iPhone 15 did not support lossless audio at
192kHz and 24 bits; yes or no?
On 11/23/23 2:36 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:57, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:49 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:46, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browne, Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it*" simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headphone connected to an external converter. Which of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course is no longer a comparison just between two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones >>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal speakers implies more than "just between" the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument which ended up proving my assertion Android is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical expert while you prove to be a troll.
A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he >>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he was saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless >>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android >>>>>>>>>>>>>> based music player to get the best music high fidelity off >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above >>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android >>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you go >>>>>>>>>>> to Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit
lossless audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they >>>>>>>>>> can't output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to >>>>>>>>>> "well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product >>>>>>>>>> from anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs. >>>>>>>>> Thats what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep >>>>>>>>> going in circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement. >>>>>>
admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
Questions (yes or no):
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
Does the iPhone 15 with nothing added and using Apple headphone
products meet or exceed that what is provided by Android?
NO. End of discussion.
That's an admission that all your earlier arguments were wrong,
little loser.
Thank you!
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
You said "no" in your initial post. That was wrong.
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
You said you can't... ...and that was wrong.
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
No, you can't. Not even close.
So anyone who wants to do 192/24 lossless audio from his phone needs
to use wired headphones/earbuds...
...so iPhones and Androids are exactly the same in this.
By not supporting advanced codecs with iphones and with their
headphone products Apple is certainly behind. Nice try at trying to >>> smear the facts. But that is what you always do.
I never said that Apple was supporting the most advanced codecs.
Do you know what a "straw man argument" is, little loser.
Did you claim that the iPhone 15 did not support lossless audio at
192kHz and 24 bits; yes or no?
You are such a losewr there Micropimp. Always pimping for Apple and never admitting Apple screws up.
On 2023-11-23 14:39, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 2:36 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:57, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:49 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:46, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally >>>>>>> admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browne, Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs it*" simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot equal Android performance. Unless you use a wired >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headphone connected to an external converter. Which of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course is no longer a comparison just between two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal speakers implies more than "just between" the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument which ended up proving my assertion Android is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical expert while you prove to be a troll. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he was saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based music player to get the best music high fidelity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component above >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore Android >>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you >>>>>>>>>>>> go to Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit >>>>>>>>>>> lossless audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they >>>>>>>>>>> can't output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, to >>>>>>>>>>> "well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product >>>>>>>>>>> from anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs. >>>>>>>>>> Thats what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep >>>>>>>>>> going in circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement. >>>>>>>
Questions (yes or no):
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone? >>>>>>
Does the iPhone 15 with nothing added and using Apple headphone
products meet or exceed that what is provided by Android?
NO. End of discussion.
That's an admission that all your earlier arguments were wrong,
little loser.
Thank you!
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
You said "no" in your initial post. That was wrong.
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
You said you can't... ...and that was wrong.
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone?
No, you can't. Not even close.
So anyone who wants to do 192/24 lossless audio from his phone
needs to use wired headphones/earbuds...
...so iPhones and Androids are exactly the same in this.
By not supporting advanced codecs with iphones and with their
headphone products Apple is certainly behind. Nice try at trying
to smear the facts. But that is what you always do.
I never said that Apple was supporting the most advanced codecs.
Do you know what a "straw man argument" is, little loser.
Did you claim that the iPhone 15 did not support lossless audio at
192kHz and 24 bits; yes or no?
I claimed Apple did not support 192/24 over its Bluetooth 5.3.
That is a lie, little loser.
Here is your complete text:
'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15
Pro and other models do not support it. Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music high fidelity off of Apple Music. There is a legitimate gripe with Apple
from an Apple fan. '
Please copy and paste the passage that mentions "Bluetooth".
Which is a true statement.
Furthermore, NO PHONE supports 192khz/24-bit audio, little loser.
As I have demonstrated to you.
On 11/23/2023 2:48 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 14:39, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 2:36 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:57, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:49 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:46, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally >>>>>>>> admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browne, Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs it*" simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot equal Android performance. Unless you use a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wired headphone connected to an external converter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which of course is no longer a comparison just between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal speakers implies more than "just between" the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument which ended up proving my assertion Android is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical expert while you prove to be a troll. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he was saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based music player to get the best music high fidelity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above the iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android superior. End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you >>>>>>>>>>>>> go to Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit >>>>>>>>>>>> lossless audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they >>>>>>>>>>>> can't output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, >>>>>>>>>>>> to "well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product >>>>>>>>>>>> from anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs. >>>>>>>>>>> Thats what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep >>>>>>>>>>> going in circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement. >>>>>>>>
Questions (yes or no):
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone? >>>>>>>
Does the iPhone 15 with nothing added and using Apple headphone >>>>>>> products meet or exceed that what is provided by Android?
NO. End of discussion.
That's an admission that all your earlier arguments were wrong,
little loser.
Thank you!
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
You said "no" in your initial post. That was wrong.
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
You said you can't... ...and that was wrong.
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone? >>>>>>
No, you can't. Not even close.
So anyone who wants to do 192/24 lossless audio from his phone
needs to use wired headphones/earbuds...
...so iPhones and Androids are exactly the same in this.
By not supporting advanced codecs with iphones and with their
headphone products Apple is certainly behind. Nice try at trying >>>>> to smear the facts. But that is what you always do.
I never said that Apple was supporting the most advanced codecs.
Do you know what a "straw man argument" is, little loser.
Did you claim that the iPhone 15 did not support lossless audio at
192kHz and 24 bits; yes or no?
I claimed Apple did not support 192/24 over its Bluetooth 5.3.
That is a lie, little loser.
Here is your complete text:
'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
15 Pro and other models do not support it. Therefore you have to buy
an Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music
high fidelity off of Apple Music. There is a legitimate gripe with
Apple from an Apple fan. '
Please copy and paste the passage that mentions "Bluetooth".
Which is a true statement.
Furthermore, NO PHONE supports 192khz/24-bit audio, little loser.
As I have demonstrated to you.
Yet you said you "proved" the iPhone supports 192/24 bit? Hmmm.
On 11/23/2023 2:48 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 14:39, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 2:36 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:57, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:49 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:46, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 13:01, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:58 PM, Alan wrote:So you've basically lost all your arguments, and you're finally >>>>>>>> admitting it. Good for you, little loser!
On 2023-11-23 12:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:46 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 12:23, John wrote:
On 11/23/23 12:04 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-23 11:53, John wrote:
On 11/23/2023 10:17 AM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 23:24, John wrote:
On 11/22/23 3:47 PM, Alan wrote:
On 2023-11-22 15:43, Wally J wrote:
Classic discussion between a normal person and a set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the iKooks who are
very strange indeed (*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "*Nobody needs it*).
One by one, the iKooks joined in, Alan Baker, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browne, Chris Schram
saying "*Nobody wants audio fidelity*" & "*Nobody >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs it*" simply because
they can't get it with the iPhone using its crippled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware technology.
Interesting that you didn't quote a single word of my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the conversation.
Your side of the conversation was silly.
My side was perfectly in line with refuting what you said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You actually proved my original contention that iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot equal Android performance. Unless you use a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wired headphone connected to an external converter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which of course is no longer a comparison just between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two different types of phones.
And listening to music on anything except the phones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal speakers implies more than "just between" the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phones, doesn't it?
You were so dumb as to actually make an alternative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument which ended up proving my assertion Android is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superior. What a dumbass. Once again I prove to be a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical expert while you prove to be a troll. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A "technical expert" who couldn't clearly state what he >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meant...
...or far more likely, someone who didn't even know what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he was saying was wrong when he wrote:
"One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio codecs. Apple Music has lossless support for up to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 192khz/24 bits but iPhone 15 Pro and other models do not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support it."
(False. iPhones do support lossless up to 192kHz/24-bit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Therefore you have to buy an Android Phone or Android >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based music player to get the best music high fidelity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off of Apple Music."
Or a set of wired headphones with a built-in DAC... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
...like these:
<https://www.amazon.ca/Cubilux-Headphones-192KHz-Samsung-Earphones/dp/B0B7RDQ14V>
...for less than $30 Canadian.
Are you done with your losing yet?
Once again you are requiring an additional component >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> above the iPhone itself. Android does not. Therefore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android superior. End of discussion.
The "additional component" being earbuds...
...which you would need in either case.
I guess you weren't done with losing yet.
:-)
Apple headphone products do not support it. Therefore you >>>>>>>>>>>>> go to Samsung, an Android maker. LMAO!
So...
...you started with "iPhones don't support 192kHz/24-bit >>>>>>>>>>>> lossless audio!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted to "they >>>>>>>>>>>> can't output it to anything!"...
...and when that was shown to be false, you pivoted again, >>>>>>>>>>>> to "well they can't do it over Bluetooth!"...
...which cannot, in fact, be done by any Bluetooth product >>>>>>>>>>>> from anyone...
...BECAUSE BLUETOOTH CAN TRANSFER DATA AT 4.5Mbps!
Thats why makers other than Apple use AptXHD or other Codecs. >>>>>>>>>>> Thats what my original complaint was about Moron. You keep >>>>>>>>>>> going in circles.
Sorry, but those CODECS are not lossless.
Straight from the source:
'Audio Encoding 24-bit, up to 48kHz sampling rate'
<https://www.aptx.com/aptx-hd>
But you go right on, little loser.
But sure sounds better than what Apple provides. BIG improvement. >>>>>>>>
Questions (yes or no):
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone? >>>>>>>
Does the iPhone 15 with nothing added and using Apple headphone >>>>>>> products meet or exceed that what is provided by Android?
NO. End of discussion.
That's an admission that all your earlier arguments were wrong,
little loser.
Thank you!
Does the iPhone support 192/24 lossless audio?
You said "no" in your initial post. That was wrong.
Can you output that audio from the iPhone?
You said you can't... ...and that was wrong.
Can you output 192/24 lossless audio using Bluetooth on any phone? >>>>>>
No, you can't. Not even close.
So anyone who wants to do 192/24 lossless audio from his phone
needs to use wired headphones/earbuds...
...so iPhones and Androids are exactly the same in this.
By not supporting advanced codecs with iphones and with their
headphone products Apple is certainly behind. Nice try at trying >>>>> to smear the facts. But that is what you always do.
I never said that Apple was supporting the most advanced codecs.
Do you know what a "straw man argument" is, little loser.
Did you claim that the iPhone 15 did not support lossless audio at
192kHz and 24 bits; yes or no?
I claimed Apple did not support 192/24 over its Bluetooth 5.3.
That is a lie, little loser.
Here is your complete text:
'One area where iPhones fail is in support of lossless audio codecs.
Apple Music has lossless support for up to 192khz/24 bits but iPhone
15 Pro and other models do not support it. Therefore you have to buy
an Android Phone or Android based music player to get the best music
high fidelity off of Apple Music. There is a legitimate gripe with
Apple from an Apple fan. '
Please copy and paste the passage that mentions "Bluetooth".
Which is a true statement.
Furthermore, NO PHONE supports 192khz/24-bit audio, little loser.
As I have demonstrated to you.
Yet you said you "proved" the iPhone supports 192/24 bit? Hmmm.
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