• Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner?

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Dec 19 01:22:32 2025
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    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:05:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I'm no Marxist chum

    Do you benefit from a Socialist-style state-funded health service?

    That would be considered “Marxist” in certain quarters ...
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Dec 18 20:45:10 2025
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    On 2025-12-18 8:22 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:05:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I'm no Marxist chum

    Do you benefit from a Socialist-style state-funded health service?

    That would be considered “Marxist” in certain quarters ...

    We have a Socialist-style state-funded health service here in Canada and
    it is so successful that the government happily offers medical
    assistance in dying because most people would rather die.

    Glenn Beck just paid to have a Canadian woman fly to the US to get
    surgery for her rare thyroid issue. The Canadian system failed her so miserably that she had chosen to die. <https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/saskatchewan-jolene-van-alstine-maid>

    That's the only thing socialism does: fail miserably wherever and
    however it is applied.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Dec 19 10:54:08 2025
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    On 19/12/2025 01:45, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2025-12-18 8:22 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:05:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I'm no Marxist chum

    Do you benefit from a Socialist-style state-funded health service?

    That would be considered “Marxist” in certain quarters ...

    We have a Socialist-style state-funded health service here in Canada and
    it is so successful that the government happily offers medical
    assistance in dying because most people would rather die.

    Glenn Beck just paid to have a Canadian woman fly to the US to get
    surgery for her rare thyroid issue. The Canadian system failed her so miserably that she had chosen to die. <https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/saskatchewan-jolene-van-alstine-maid>

    That's the only thing socialism does: fail miserably wherever and
    however it is applied.

    Well no it doesn't.

    If a funded-through-general-tax health service is defined as socialism.

    Sure you can always pay for special treatment and a new unique way to
    die of medical intervention, but you only need to look at the data of
    say the USA versus European health care to see which is better value for
    money and more likely to prolong life.
    --
    It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. Mark Twain



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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Dec 19 09:11:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-12-19 5:54 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 19/12/2025 01:45, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2025-12-18 8:22 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:05:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I'm no Marxist chum

    Do you benefit from a Socialist-style state-funded health service?

    That would be considered “Marxist” in certain quarters ...

    We have a Socialist-style state-funded health service here in Canada
    and it is so successful that the government happily offers medical
    assistance in dying because most people would rather die.

    Glenn Beck just paid to have a Canadian woman fly to the US to get
    surgery for her rare thyroid issue. The Canadian system failed her so
    miserably that she had chosen to die. <https://nationalpost.com/news/
    canada/saskatchewan-jolene-van-alstine-maid>

    That's the only thing socialism does: fail miserably wherever and
    however it is applied.

    Well no it doesn't.

    If a funded-through-general-tax health service is defined as socialism.

    Sure you can always pay for special treatment and a new unique way to
    die of medical intervention, but you only need to look at the data of
    say the USA versus European health care to see which is better value for money and more likely to prolong life.

    If I can spare some money, I know that I can be saved in the United
    States. In Canada, even if I have the money, they would rather just let
    me die. We don't have a two-tier system here at all. It's public or
    nothing, and public is awful. Besides, socialism is not only why people
    are dying before even getting to a hospital, it's responsible for
    allowing illegal migrants to enter without any sort of prohibition. It
    is why women are getting raped without a hope for rescue. It's why those
    same victims of rape get 17 years in prison for defending themselves
    from their rapists with a knife.

    Socialism is an ideology created by Satan to enrich his followers at the expense of everyone else. Anyone who supports it is a complete and utter moron.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
    Windows is fine.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Dec 19 15:02:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 19/12/2025 14:11, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Socialism is an ideology created by Satan to enrich his followers at the expense of everyone else. Anyone who supports it is a complete and utter moron.
    Ah, Another 'Honk for Jesus' fruitcake...
    --
    Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.

    "Saki"

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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Dec 19 10:38:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-12-19 10:02 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 19/12/2025 14:11, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Socialism is an ideology created by Satan to enrich his followers at
    the expense of everyone else. Anyone who supports it is a complete and
    utter moron.
    Ah, Another 'Honk for Jesus' fruitcake...

    Remember you said this when you get to your destination.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Dec 19 11:03:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 12/19/25 10:38 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2025-12-19 10:02 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 19/12/2025 14:11, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Socialism is an ideology created by Satan to enrich his followers at
    the expense of everyone else. Anyone who supports it is a complete
    and utter moron.

    Ah, Another 'Honk for Jesus' fruitcake...

    Remember you said this when you get to your destination.


    You are the one following Satan, white-nationalist phobe. You have
    confused that with "Christianity", as is common. "Christian" can be
    outright demonic.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From John Ames@commodorejohn@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Dec 19 08:09:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 15:02:28 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    Socialism is an ideology created by Satan to enrich his followers
    at the expense of everyone else. Anyone who supports it is a
    complete and utter moron.

    Ah, Another 'Honk for Jesus' fruitcake...

    It's also, uh, theologically questionable :/

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Dec 19 18:14:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 19/12/2025 15:38, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2025-12-19 10:02 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 19/12/2025 14:11, CrudeSausage wrote:
    Socialism is an ideology created by Satan to enrich his followers at
    the expense of everyone else. Anyone who supports it is a complete
    and utter moron.
    Ah, Another 'Honk for Jesus' fruitcake...

    Remember you said this when you get to your destination.

    I am already there.
    --
    "Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and
    higher education positively fortifies it."

    - Stephen Vizinczey


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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Dec 19 21:56:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-12-19 02:45, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2025-12-18 8:22 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:05:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I'm no Marxist chum

    Do you benefit from a Socialist-style state-funded health service?

    That would be considered “Marxist” in certain quarters ...

    We have a Socialist-style state-funded health service here in Canada and
    it is so successful that the government happily offers medical
    assistance in dying because most people would rather die.

    Glenn Beck just paid to have a Canadian woman fly to the US to get
    surgery for her rare thyroid issue. The Canadian system failed her so miserably that she had chosen to die. <https://nationalpost.com/news/ canada/saskatchewan-jolene-van-alstine-maid>

    That's the only thing socialism does: fail miserably wherever and
    however it is applied.

    Like having Ozempic for free?
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Dec 20 05:56:23 2025
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    On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Like having Ozempic for free?

    TANSTAAFL

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Dec 20 10:52:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Like having Ozempic for free?

    TANSTAAFL


    Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
    And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary

    Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.
    --
    "Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
    always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

    Margaret Thatcher

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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Dec 20 15:01:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-12-20 06:56, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Like having Ozempic for free?

    TANSTAAFL


    But of course, there are taxes, which are put to good purposes. Some
    people can afford to pay, some can't, yet they have access to expensive medicines and treatments that they can not pay.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Dec 20 15:03:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-12-20 11:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Like having Ozempic for free?

    TANSTAAFL


    Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
    And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary

    Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.



    Ozempic is prescribed for diabetes. But it was just an example of an
    expensive treatment, there are others.

    And obesity exist for many reasons.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Dec 20 14:47:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 20/12/2025 14:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-12-20 06:56, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Like having Ozempic for free?

    TANSTAAFL


    But of course, there are taxes, which are put to good purposes. Some
    people can afford to pay, some can't, yet they have access to expensive medicines and treatments that they can not pay.

    Ultimately national health services are a not for profit insurance
    company and health delivery service funded out of general taxation.
    Since it is universal and not for profit, far less very highly paid
    people work in it and it doesn't need admin for billing and loss adjusters.

    That alone makes it way better than privately insured and delivered.
    health services.
    Then having a single buying entity for drugs gives it massive bargaining
    power to reduce prices.

    It does nearly all of what you need for less than half of what you pay
    in the USA.

    Sure if you want more, you can pay for it.
    --
    Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle
    more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump
    their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the
    battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is
    that they are dead.
    Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Dec 20 14:50:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 20/12/2025 14:03, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-12-20 11:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Like having Ozempic for free?

    TANSTAAFL


    Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
    And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary

    Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.



    Ozempic is prescribed for diabetes. But it was just an example of an expensive treatment, there are others.

    And obesity exist for many reasons.


    Not really. You don't find obesity at all in certain cultures.
    Ultimately it represents a huge excess of calories in over calories out.
    And that is consistent with a very high starch intake, as is type II
    diabetes
    --
    For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the
    very definition of slavery.

    Jonathan Swift


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  • From Lars Poulsen@lars@beagle-ears.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.unix.geeks on Sat Dec 20 15:04:48 2025
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    ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.unix.geeks]

    On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    Like having Ozempic for free?

    On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:
    TANSTAAFL

    On 2025-12-20 11:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
    And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary

    Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.

    On 2025-12-20, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    Ozempic is prescribed for diabetes. But it was just an example of an expensive treatment, there are others.

    And obesity exist for many reasons.

    When I was young, I was a scrawny kid. As a young geek, sleeping
    irregular hours, working 11 to 20:30 and eating at random times, I was
    still scrawny. After I got married, I started to slowly gain weight;
    but I was still pretty active, so it was slow. After my divorce,
    I was depressed, and much less active, and eventually reached 270
    pounds. With a medically supervised calorie reduction program, I made it
    back to 195 pounds, but it was not a sustainable diet, and after I
    remarried, it crept back up to 230 lbs. With what I considered strict discipline, I made it down to 205, but was stuck oscilating between 205
    and 215.

    Zepbound has been a revelation for me. I pay USD 500/month direct from
    EliLilly with monthly monitoring appointments with my doctor.

    The price illustrates our ridiculous US healthcare system.
    1) If I was a lot more obese (290 lbs?) or my type 2 diabetes was less
    well managed, I would pay USD 30/month as my copay, and Medicare
    would pay the rest.
    2) If I went to one of the shadier compound pharmacies with internet
    sales (that import the compounds directly from China), with imaginary
    medical supervision from their "virtual doctor".
    3) If I took the risk of importing the compounds from China myself,
    I learned from an NYT article that I could get a 10 month supply for
    USD 150.
    So the difference between $15/month and $500/month is the quality
    control performed by the pharma company and the heavy TV advertising.

    With Zepbound I am experienccing for the first time in my life that
    I can go to lunch with a group of men and feel full when half the meal
    is still on the plate, and have them box up the rest for me.

    So this is what it's like for those people who are effortlessly slim
    without contorting themselves to be hungry all the time!

    No wonder they think I am just undisciplined.
    --
    Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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  • From Diego Garcia@dg@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Dec 20 16:18:11 2025
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    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 15:04:48 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:


    Zepbound has been a revelation for me. I pay USD 500/month direct from EliLilly with monthly monitoring appointments with my doctor.


    It is unfortunate that it cannot reduce or remove the ugly fat
    that has accumulated in your brain tissue.

    Do not ever respond to my wonderful posts with your fatheaded
    idiocy, you disgusting bloated fat fuck.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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  • From Charlie Gibbs@cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Dec 20 20:45:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-12-20, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:

    On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Like having Ozempic for free?

    TANSTAAFL

    Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
    And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary

    Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.

    "One pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small..."

    It's a good growth industry for Big Pharma, anyway.
    --
    /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of
    \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology
    X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell.
    / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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  • From chrisv@chrisv@nospam.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.unix.geeks on Sat Dec 20 17:21:04 2025
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    Lars Poulsen wrote:

    When I was young, I was a scrawny kid. As a young geek, sleeping
    irregular hours, working 11 to 20:30 and eating at random times, I was
    still scrawny. After I got married, I started to slowly gain weight;
    but I was still pretty active, so it was slow. After my divorce,
    I was depressed, and much less active, and eventually reached 270
    pounds. With a medically supervised calorie reduction program, I made it
    back to 195 pounds, but it was not a sustainable diet, and after I
    remarried, it crept back up to 230 lbs. With what I considered strict >discipline, I made it down to 205, but was stuck oscilating between 205
    and 215.

    It's best to not put on the weight in the first place. Your body
    raises its "set point" of where it wants to be, and anything below
    that feels like you're starving.

    Zepbound has been a revelation for me. I pay USD 500/month direct from >EliLilly with monthly monitoring appointments with my doctor.

    Hidiosly expensive drugs, that we all now have to pay for. And they
    must be taken for life! As if medical insurance wasn't costly enough
    already!

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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Dec 20 08:33:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-12-19 3:56 p.m., Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-12-19 02:45, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2025-12-18 8:22 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:05:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I'm no Marxist chum

    Do you benefit from a Socialist-style state-funded health service?

    That would be considered “Marxist” in certain quarters ...

    We have a Socialist-style state-funded health service here in Canada
    and it is so successful that the government happily offers medical
    assistance in dying because most people would rather die.

    Glenn Beck just paid to have a Canadian woman fly to the US to get
    surgery for her rare thyroid issue. The Canadian system failed her so
    miserably that she had chosen to die. <https://nationalpost.com/news/
    canada/saskatchewan-jolene-van-alstine-maid>

    That's the only thing socialism does: fail miserably wherever and
    however it is applied.

    Like having Ozempic for free?

    To allow obese people to take shortcuts to proper fitness? Or to counter
    the effects of having had a terrible nutrition your entire life? If
    that's how you want your tax money spent, that's fine.

    I am aware that diabetes is also genetic, but those people aren't the
    ones the people behind Ozempic are selling to anymore.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Dec 21 02:09:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 20:45:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

    It's a good growth industry for Big Pharma, anyway.

    As I see it, Big Pharma sells 3 kinds of products:

    1) Cures for diseases
    2) Disease preventives (vaccines etc)
    3) Treatments for conditions that are not cures, but require ongoing
    application for a lifetime

    Which do you think is the most profitable for them? Clearly it’s 3), particularly if the condition involved is one that primarily afflicts
    affluent first-world patients. Those good old erectile dysfunction
    pills, as well as these weight-loss ones, clearly fit into that
    category.

    Which is the *least* profitable? Obviously it’s 2). Something to think
    about the next time somebody tries to convince you of some kind of
    “vaccine conspiracy” ...
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Dec 21 02:11:38 2025
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    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 14:47:21 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    That alone makes it way better than privately insured and delivered.
    health services.

    But ... but ... how can *anything* Government-run *possibly* be better
    than a private for-profit service?!!?? Doesn’t that go against
    everything that America Stands For??!??
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Dec 21 04:34:43 2025
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    On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 02:11:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 14:47:21 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    That alone makes it way better than privately insured and delivered.
    health services.

    But ... but ... how can *anything* Government-run *possibly* be better
    than a private for-profit service?!!?? Doesn’t that go against
    everything that America Stands For??!??

    America seems to be getting a bit tired of standing for all the bullshit
    our politicians feed us.

    For the record the groundwork for the Affordable Care Act was done by the Democratic Senator from Montana, Max Baucus. He removed a single payer solution from consideration on day one. The miserable son of a bitch was bought and paid for by the healthcare industry and tailored the plan to
    ensure their profits.

    One happy outcome was Obama made him ambassador to China and we got rid of
    the corrupt bastard.
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Dec 21 04:40:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 08:33:32 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I am aware that diabetes is also genetic, but those people aren't the
    ones the people behind Ozempic are selling to anymore.

    Technically using Ozempic strictly for weight loss is off label. It is a medication for Type 2 diabetes.

    Wegovy is the same shit in a higher dosage and is used to treat obesity.
    The catch is the former is covered by most insurance plans, the latter
    isn't. Can you see the potential for abuse?
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Dec 21 04:43:17 2025
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    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 10:52:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Like having Ozempic for free?

    TANSTAAFL


    Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
    And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary

    Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.

    Besides potential side effects studies are confirming that it's something
    the patient will be on forever, a wonderful cash cow for the pharma
    industry. That's not to say you can't stop taking it but most people in
    the studies returned to the whale pod in short order.

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Dec 21 04:47:12 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 20:45:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

    On 2025-12-20, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:

    On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Like having Ozempic for free?

    TANSTAAFL

    Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
    And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary

    Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.

    "One pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small..."

    It's a good growth industry for Big Pharma, anyway.

    Ozempic doesn't sound like any fun. Now 20 mg of the finest pharmaceutical amphetamine for weight loss, that I can understand.
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Dec 21 05:00:10 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 02:09:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Which is the *least* profitable? Obviously it’s 2). Something to think about the next time somebody tries to convince you of some kind of
    “vaccine conspiracy” ...

    The vaccine business certainly didn't hurt Pfizer's bottom line. The
    patents on their three cash cows, Viagra, Zoloft, and Lipitor had expired,
    the last, Viagra, in 2020. Their Alzheimer's drug was a dry hole and they folded the research department.

    As for Lipitor, the fascination with statins lines more pockets than
    Pfizer's. My doctor is a bit of a cynic and says the checklist she has to
    use for Medicare somehow always comes out 'you need statins'.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Dec 21 10:57:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 21/12/2025 05:00, rbowman wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 02:09:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Which is the *least* profitable? Obviously it’s 2). Something to think
    about the next time somebody tries to convince you of some kind of
    “vaccine conspiracy” ...

    The vaccine business certainly didn't hurt Pfizer's bottom line. The
    patents on their three cash cows, Viagra, Zoloft, and Lipitor had expired, the last, Viagra, in 2020. Their Alzheimer's drug was a dry hole and they folded the research department.

    As for Lipitor, the fascination with statins lines more pockets than Pfizer's. My doctor is a bit of a cynic and says the checklist she has to
    use for Medicare somehow always comes out 'you need statins'.

    Yes. I couldn't tolerate them and I do actually need them. I am on
    something VeryExpensivet™ now that actually works with no side effects, except I haven't had another blocked heart artery since I started on them...

    Again its all about genetics, lifestyle and diet.
    We have all loved longer than our grandparents because of modern drugs
    and despite modern diets
    --
    Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead
    to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Dec 21 19:59:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-12-20 11:40 p.m., rbowman wrote:
    On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 08:33:32 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:

    I am aware that diabetes is also genetic, but those people aren't the
    ones the people behind Ozempic are selling to anymore.

    Technically using Ozempic strictly for weight loss is off label. It is a medication for Type 2 diabetes.

    Wegovy is the same shit in a higher dosage and is used to treat obesity.
    The catch is the former is covered by most insurance plans, the latter
    isn't. Can you see the potential for abuse?

    I do. I imagine that there are tons of pigs in Canada abusing our health
    care system to cheat on their weight loss.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
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