I'm no Marxist chum
On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:05:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I'm no Marxist chum
Do you benefit from a Socialist-style state-funded health service?
That would be considered “Marxist” in certain quarters ...
On 2025-12-18 8:22 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:05:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I'm no Marxist chum
Do you benefit from a Socialist-style state-funded health service?
That would be considered “Marxist” in certain quarters ...
We have a Socialist-style state-funded health service here in Canada and
it is so successful that the government happily offers medical
assistance in dying because most people would rather die.
Glenn Beck just paid to have a Canadian woman fly to the US to get
surgery for her rare thyroid issue. The Canadian system failed her so miserably that she had chosen to die. <https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/saskatchewan-jolene-van-alstine-maid>
That's the only thing socialism does: fail miserably wherever and
however it is applied.
On 19/12/2025 01:45, CrudeSausage wrote:
On 2025-12-18 8:22 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:Well no it doesn't.
On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:05:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I'm no Marxist chum
Do you benefit from a Socialist-style state-funded health service?
That would be considered “Marxist” in certain quarters ...
We have a Socialist-style state-funded health service here in Canada
and it is so successful that the government happily offers medical
assistance in dying because most people would rather die.
Glenn Beck just paid to have a Canadian woman fly to the US to get
surgery for her rare thyroid issue. The Canadian system failed her so
miserably that she had chosen to die. <https://nationalpost.com/news/
canada/saskatchewan-jolene-van-alstine-maid>
That's the only thing socialism does: fail miserably wherever and
however it is applied.
If a funded-through-general-tax health service is defined as socialism.
Sure you can always pay for special treatment and a new unique way to
die of medical intervention, but you only need to look at the data of
say the USA versus European health care to see which is better value for money and more likely to prolong life.
Socialism is an ideology created by Satan to enrich his followers at the expense of everyone else. Anyone who supports it is a complete and utter moron.Ah, Another 'Honk for Jesus' fruitcake...
On 19/12/2025 14:11, CrudeSausage wrote:
Socialism is an ideology created by Satan to enrich his followers atAh, Another 'Honk for Jesus' fruitcake...
the expense of everyone else. Anyone who supports it is a complete and
utter moron.
On 2025-12-19 10:02 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/12/2025 14:11, CrudeSausage wrote:
Socialism is an ideology created by Satan to enrich his followers at
the expense of everyone else. Anyone who supports it is a complete
and utter moron.
Ah, Another 'Honk for Jesus' fruitcake...
Remember you said this when you get to your destination.
Socialism is an ideology created by Satan to enrich his followers
at the expense of everyone else. Anyone who supports it is a
complete and utter moron.
Ah, Another 'Honk for Jesus' fruitcake...
On 2025-12-19 10:02 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/12/2025 14:11, CrudeSausage wrote:
Socialism is an ideology created by Satan to enrich his followers atAh, Another 'Honk for Jesus' fruitcake...
the expense of everyone else. Anyone who supports it is a complete
and utter moron.
Remember you said this when you get to your destination.
On 2025-12-18 8:22 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:05:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I'm no Marxist chum
Do you benefit from a Socialist-style state-funded health service?
That would be considered “Marxist” in certain quarters ...
We have a Socialist-style state-funded health service here in Canada and
it is so successful that the government happily offers medical
assistance in dying because most people would rather die.
Glenn Beck just paid to have a Canadian woman fly to the US to get
surgery for her rare thyroid issue. The Canadian system failed her so miserably that she had chosen to die. <https://nationalpost.com/news/ canada/saskatchewan-jolene-van-alstine-maid>
That's the only thing socialism does: fail miserably wherever and
however it is applied.
Like having Ozempic for free?
On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Like having Ozempic for free?
TANSTAAFL
On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Like having Ozempic for free?
TANSTAAFL
On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Like having Ozempic for free?
TANSTAAFL
Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary
Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.
On 2025-12-20 06:56, rbowman wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Like having Ozempic for free?
TANSTAAFL
But of course, there are taxes, which are put to good purposes. Some
people can afford to pay, some can't, yet they have access to expensive medicines and treatments that they can not pay.
On 2025-12-20 11:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Like having Ozempic for free?
TANSTAAFL
Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary
Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.
Ozempic is prescribed for diabetes. But it was just an example of an expensive treatment, there are others.
And obesity exist for many reasons.
Like having Ozempic for free?
TANSTAAFL
Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary
Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.
Ozempic is prescribed for diabetes. But it was just an example of an expensive treatment, there are others.
And obesity exist for many reasons.
Zepbound has been a revelation for me. I pay USD 500/month direct from EliLilly with monthly monitoring appointments with my doctor.
On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Like having Ozempic for free?
TANSTAAFL
Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary
Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.
When I was young, I was a scrawny kid. As a young geek, sleeping
irregular hours, working 11 to 20:30 and eating at random times, I was
still scrawny. After I got married, I started to slowly gain weight;
but I was still pretty active, so it was slow. After my divorce,
I was depressed, and much less active, and eventually reached 270
pounds. With a medically supervised calorie reduction program, I made it
back to 195 pounds, but it was not a sustainable diet, and after I
remarried, it crept back up to 230 lbs. With what I considered strict >discipline, I made it down to 205, but was stuck oscilating between 205
and 215.
Zepbound has been a revelation for me. I pay USD 500/month direct from >EliLilly with monthly monitoring appointments with my doctor.
On 2025-12-19 02:45, CrudeSausage wrote:
On 2025-12-18 8:22 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 18:05:17 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I'm no Marxist chum
Do you benefit from a Socialist-style state-funded health service?
That would be considered “Marxist” in certain quarters ...
We have a Socialist-style state-funded health service here in Canada
and it is so successful that the government happily offers medical
assistance in dying because most people would rather die.
Glenn Beck just paid to have a Canadian woman fly to the US to get
surgery for her rare thyroid issue. The Canadian system failed her so
miserably that she had chosen to die. <https://nationalpost.com/news/
canada/saskatchewan-jolene-van-alstine-maid>
That's the only thing socialism does: fail miserably wherever and
however it is applied.
Like having Ozempic for free?
It's a good growth industry for Big Pharma, anyway.
That alone makes it way better than privately insured and delivered.
health services.
On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 14:47:21 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
That alone makes it way better than privately insured and delivered.
health services.
But ... but ... how can *anything* Government-run *possibly* be better
than a private for-profit service?!!?? Doesn’t that go against
everything that America Stands For??!??
I am aware that diabetes is also genetic, but those people aren't the
ones the people behind Ozempic are selling to anymore.
On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
Like having Ozempic for free?
TANSTAAFL
And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary
Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.
On 2025-12-20, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 20/12/2025 05:56, rbowman wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:56:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Like having Ozempic for free?
TANSTAAFL
Yes. Obesity exists because of the way food is produced and marketed.
And lifestyles in a post industrial age are sedentary
Throwing Ozemopic on top of that is a bit of an unkown.
"One pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small..."
It's a good growth industry for Big Pharma, anyway.
Which is the *least* profitable? Obviously it’s 2). Something to think about the next time somebody tries to convince you of some kind of
“vaccine conspiracy” ...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2025 02:09:17 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Which is the *least* profitable? Obviously it’s 2). Something to think
about the next time somebody tries to convince you of some kind of
“vaccine conspiracy” ...
The vaccine business certainly didn't hurt Pfizer's bottom line. The
patents on their three cash cows, Viagra, Zoloft, and Lipitor had expired, the last, Viagra, in 2020. Their Alzheimer's drug was a dry hole and they folded the research department.
As for Lipitor, the fascination with statins lines more pockets than Pfizer's. My doctor is a bit of a cynic and says the checklist she has to
use for Medicare somehow always comes out 'you need statins'.
On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 08:33:32 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
I am aware that diabetes is also genetic, but those people aren't the
ones the people behind Ozempic are selling to anymore.
Technically using Ozempic strictly for weight loss is off label. It is a medication for Type 2 diabetes.
Wegovy is the same shit in a higher dosage and is used to treat obesity.
The catch is the former is covered by most insurance plans, the latter
isn't. Can you see the potential for abuse?
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