• Re: Kewl. Common Desktop Environment 2.5.3 Released

    From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Dec 17 23:46:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2025-12-15 04:41, rbowman wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 01:06:59 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    On 2025-12-14 12:33, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Le 13-12-2025, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> a écrit :
    On 2025-12-13 13:27, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
    Now, considering the easiest way to do stuff to manage your computer >>>>> is another question. I've used successfully the command line to make >>>>> changes on thousands of files which would have required me hours or
    days to take care with a graphical tool with. I have no example of
    stuff which would have been easier with a graphical tool. But for
    someone who doesn't know the CLI it wouldn't be so easy because he
    would need to learn the right commands first.

    It is easier to edit scripts in the GUI desktop than it is in the
    console. Renouncing to the GUI desktop is ridiculous.

    For me, the difference between the GUI and the CLI is the use of the
    keyboard or the use of the mouse. Of course, I'm launching my terminals
    in GUI. And as a text editor, I'm using neovim. So, I'm always fully
    inside a graphical environment but, I'm using CLI as much as possible.
    Of course, I won't browse websites with links but I'm using qutebrowser
    to be able to use my keyboard on well designed website.

    Of course, I'm not telling others to do the same. I'm only telling, for
    managing my computer, I see no graphical tool that can do something I
    can't do on the CLI. Discovering the CLI is more difficult than
    discovering the GUI, but well, I'm using Linux from more than thirty
    years now and back in those days, the CLI was almost mandatory so I'm
    not discovering it.

    But you are doing the thing I say to do. You are not contradicting me.
    You are running terminals in a GUI. Using CLI editors or GUI editors
    doesn't matter. I also use CLI editors, and the command line a lot.

    What I refuse to do is use the console unless I need to. Console, not
    terminal. Different thing. Console is the text mode display.

    I saw someone at uni using a GUI desktop to edit files in 1987 or
    thereabouts. One window for the editor, and another for the program he
    was testing. Another terminal for something else. At the time, I only
    had MsDOS. I was astonished.

    https://www.hanselman.com/blog/whats-the-difference-between-a-console-a- terminal-and-a-shell


    I agree with "In the software world a Terminal and a Console are, for all intents, synonymous." I'm old enough that, while I use the terms loosely,
    a 'terminal' is an ADM-3A.

    In the context of Linux, a terminal is a terminal application like
    xterm, gnome-terminal, konsole, etc, running inside the GUI. While
    console is the text mode display, what you get normally after doing [ctrl][alt][F1..f6]

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    Cheers, Carlos.
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