• Who Actually Uses PulseAudio/Pipewire?

    From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 17 16:19:18 2025
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    I would suppose that all of the distro lackeys on this group use
    either PulseAudio or Pipewire for their sound drivers.

    Well, what the fuck is the matter with Alsa?

    Answer: not a fucking thing.

    Alsa is the foundation of GNU/Linux sound and that is all
    that is necessary.

    Yet the distros will dole out to their lackeys the totally
    unnecessary PulsAudio or Pipewire.

    I use Alsa. That is all, and I can do anything, and more,
    that you can do with your stupid PulseAudio/Pipewire.

    Why be a distro dog? Give your distro the middle finger
    and boldly shout: "I want Alsa! Give me Alsa!"
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  • From Mekeor Melire@mekeor@posteo.de to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 17 17:45:20 2025
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    2025-12-17 16:19 ff@linux.rocks:

    I would suppose that all of the distro lackeys on this group use
    either PulseAudio or Pipewire for their sound drivers. Well,
    what the fuck is the matter with Alsa? Answer: not a fucking
    thing. Alsa is the foundation of GNU/Linux sound and that is
    all that is necessary. Yet the distros will dole out to their
    lackeys the totally unnecessary PulsAudio or Pipewire. I use
    Alsa. That is all, and I can do anything, and more, that you
    can do with your stupid PulseAudio/Pipewire. Why be a distro
    dog? Give your distro the middle finger and boldly shout: "I
    want Alsa! Give me Alsa!"

    I switched to PipeWire in spring 2025 and I'm impressed how
    intuitive it is and how it just works. For example, audio via
    bluetooth speakers never has been so easy for me.
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  • From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 17 21:49:24 2025
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    On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 17:45:20 +0100, Mekeor Melire wrote:


    I switched to PipeWire in spring 2025 and I'm impressed how
    intuitive it is and how it just works. For example, audio via
    bluetooth speakers never has been so easy for me.


    I thank you for responding.

    Please respond more often as this group needs more on-topic
    posts.
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 17 17:01:29 2025
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    On 12/17/25 4:49 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 17:45:20 +0100, Mekeor Melire wrote:

    I switched to PipeWire in spring 2025 and I'm impressed how
    intuitive it is and how it just works. For example, audio via
    bluetooth speakers never has been so easy for me.

    I thank you for responding.

    Please respond more often as this group needs more on-topic
    posts.


    They made your OP look stupid, though.
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    Joel W. Crump
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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Dec 18 00:00:52 2025
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    On Dec 17, 2025 at 5:01:29 PM EST, ""Joel W. Crump"" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 12/17/25 4:49 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 17:45:20 +0100, Mekeor Melire wrote:

    I switched to PipeWire in spring 2025 and I'm impressed how
    intuitive it is and how it just works. For example, audio via
    bluetooth speakers never has been so easy for me.

    I thank you for responding.

    Please respond more often as this group needs more on-topic
    posts.


    They made your OP look stupid, though.

    Actually no. Only Farley makes Farley's posts look stupid.

    And - not surprisingly - it happens every time he posts.
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  • From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Dec 18 00:32:51 2025
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    On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 00:00:52 +0000, Tyrone wrote:


    Actually no. Only Farley makes Farley's posts look stupid.


    Tyrone is still hurting after having been exposed making a washerwoman's
    salary of $164,000 per annum.

    Perhaps Tyrone should improve his burger flipping skills.
    He may make an impression with the local White Castle manager.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 17 19:34:45 2025
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    On 12/17/25 7:32 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 00:00:52 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    Actually no. Only Farley makes Farley's posts look stupid.

    Tyrone is still hurting after having been exposed making a washerwoman's salary of $164,000 per annum.

    Perhaps Tyrone should improve his burger flipping skills.
    He may make an impression with the local White Castle manager.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


    Child.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From kouya@kouyaheika@canithesis.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 17 20:04:41 2025
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    Farley Flud wrote:

    I would suppose that all of the distro lackeys on this group use
    either PulseAudio or Pipewire for their sound drivers.

    Well, what the fuck is the matter with Alsa?

    Answer: not a fucking thing.

    Alsa is the foundation of GNU/Linux sound and that is all
    that is necessary.

    Yet the distros will dole out to their lackeys the totally
    unnecessary PulsAudio or Pipewire.

    I use Alsa. That is all, and I can do anything, and more,
    that you can do with your stupid PulseAudio/Pipewire.

    Why be a distro dog? Give your distro the middle finger
    and boldly shout: "I want Alsa! Give me Alsa!"

    These statements only prove you have no idea about the topics you claim a superior opinion over.

    While ALSA is stable and functional now, that wasn't always the case. PulseAudio was developed in a time where ALSA was difficult to configure
    and lacked a number of key features. While it was definitely better than
    the previous OSS offering, it lacked support for some audio hardware, was difficult to properly configure, and couldn't support more than one
    application at a time.

    Of course, these issues have been ironed out and ALSA has better support nowadays, but there are still things missing that the common user would
    prefer that is filled in with things like PulseAudio and PipeWire.

    I personally use ALSA because I don't really need any complicated dynamic
    audio device handling or per-application sound control, but that isn't for everyone. Claiming otherwise is idiotic.
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  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Dec 18 02:12:06 2025
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    On 2025-12-18, kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> wrote:
    Farley Flud wrote:

    I would suppose that all of the distro lackeys on this group use
    either PulseAudio or Pipewire for their sound drivers.

    Well, what the fuck is the matter with Alsa?

    Answer: not a fucking thing.

    Alsa is the foundation of GNU/Linux sound and that is all
    that is necessary.

    Yet the distros will dole out to their lackeys the totally
    unnecessary PulsAudio or Pipewire.

    I use Alsa. That is all, and I can do anything, and more,
    that you can do with your stupid PulseAudio/Pipewire.

    Why be a distro dog? Give your distro the middle finger
    and boldly shout: "I want Alsa! Give me Alsa!"

    These statements only prove you have no idea about the topics you claim a superior opinion over.

    While ALSA is stable and functional now, that wasn't always the case. PulseAudio was developed in a time where ALSA was difficult to configure
    and lacked a number of key features. While it was definitely better than
    the previous OSS offering, it lacked support for some audio hardware, was difficult to properly configure, and couldn't support more than one application at a time.

    Of course, these issues have been ironed out and ALSA has better support nowadays, but there are still things missing that the common user would prefer that is filled in with things like PulseAudio and PipeWire.

    I personally use ALSA because I don't really need any complicated dynamic audio device handling or per-application sound control, but that isn't for everyone. Claiming otherwise is idiotic.

    TBH it's been years since I have had to fiddle with Linux audio, ALSA, Pulse or otherwise.
    I've tested a number of different distributions both on bare metal and in
    VM and everything audio just seems to work.
    I'm just a typical end user who wants to play media, stream YT and so forth and at least for me, it just works.
    --
    pothead

    Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views,
    but then are shocked and offended to discover that there
    are other views.

    William F. Buckley, Jr.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Dec 18 02:20:36 2025
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    On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 20:04:41 -0600, kouya wrote:

    While ALSA is stable and functional now, that wasn't always the
    case. PulseAudio was developed in a time where ALSA was difficult to configure and lacked a number of key features.

    The two are not mutually exclusive. PulseAudio/PipeWire still depend
    on ALSA for lower-level access to audio hardware. And they in turn
    offer an ALSA-compatible API for apps that think they are accessing
    that hardware directly.
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  • From kouya@kouyaheika@canithesis.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 17 20:41:42 2025
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    Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 20:04:41 -0600, kouya wrote:

    While ALSA is stable and functional now, that wasn't always the
    case. PulseAudio was developed in a time where ALSA was difficult to
    configure and lacked a number of key features.

    The two are not mutually exclusive. PulseAudio/PipeWire still depend
    on ALSA for lower-level access to audio hardware. And they in turn
    offer an ALSA-compatible API for apps that think they are accessing
    that hardware directly.

    I wasn't intending to imply otherwise. PulseAudio lays ontop of ALSA, and provides its automated configurations for it while the end user is exposed
    to a much simpler audio configuration, complete with the additional
    features outside the scope of ALSA.
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 17 22:02:57 2025
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    On 2025-12-17 9:04 p.m., kouya wrote:
    Farley Flud wrote:

    I would suppose that all of the distro lackeys on this group use
    either PulseAudio or Pipewire for their sound drivers.

    Well, what the fuck is the matter with Alsa?

    Answer: not a fucking thing.

    Alsa is the foundation of GNU/Linux sound and that is all
    that is necessary.

    Yet the distros will dole out to their lackeys the totally
    unnecessary PulsAudio or Pipewire.

    I use Alsa. That is all, and I can do anything, and more,
    that you can do with your stupid PulseAudio/Pipewire.

    Why be a distro dog? Give your distro the middle finger
    and boldly shout: "I want Alsa! Give me Alsa!"

    These statements only prove you have no idea about the topics you claim a superior opinion over.

    While ALSA is stable and functional now, that wasn't always the case. PulseAudio was developed in a time where ALSA was difficult to configure
    and lacked a number of key features. While it was definitely better than
    the previous OSS offering, it lacked support for some audio hardware, was difficult to properly configure, and couldn't support more than one application at a time.

    Of course, these issues have been ironed out and ALSA has better support nowadays, but there are still things missing that the common user would prefer that is filled in with things like PulseAudio and PipeWire.

    I personally use ALSA because I don't really need any complicated dynamic audio device handling or per-application sound control, but that isn't for everyone. Claiming otherwise is idiotic.

    I'll say this much: I have no idea which of them I'm supposed to be
    using. However, whichever distribution I use, I end up with annoying
    crackling that I don't get if I use Windows. I don't know if it's a
    Pipewire, ALSA or PulseAudio issue, but it's terribly annoying.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Dec 19 07:35:46 2025
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    On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-12-17 9:04 p.m., kouya wrote:
    Farley Flud wrote:

    I would suppose that all of the distro lackeys on this group use
    either PulseAudio or Pipewire for their sound drivers.

    Well, what the fuck is the matter with Alsa?

    Answer: not a fucking thing.

    Alsa is the foundation of GNU/Linux sound and that is all
    that is necessary.

    Yet the distros will dole out to their lackeys the totally
    unnecessary PulsAudio or Pipewire.

    I use Alsa. That is all, and I can do anything, and more,
    that you can do with your stupid PulseAudio/Pipewire.

    Why be a distro dog? Give your distro the middle finger
    and boldly shout: "I want Alsa! Give me Alsa!"

    These statements only prove you have no idea about the topics you claim a
    superior opinion over.

    While ALSA is stable and functional now, that wasn't always the case.
    PulseAudio was developed in a time where ALSA was difficult to configure
    and lacked a number of key features. While it was definitely better than
    the previous OSS offering, it lacked support for some audio hardware, was
    difficult to properly configure, and couldn't support more than one
    application at a time.

    Of course, these issues have been ironed out and ALSA has better support
    nowadays, but there are still things missing that the common user would
    prefer that is filled in with things like PulseAudio and PipeWire.

    I personally use ALSA because I don't really need any complicated dynamic
    audio device handling or per-application sound control, but that isn't for >> everyone. Claiming otherwise is idiotic.

    I'll say this much: I have no idea which of them I'm supposed to be
    using. However, whichever distribution I use, I end up with annoying crackling that I don't get if I use Windows. I don't know if it's a Pipewire, ALSA or PulseAudio issue, but it's terribly annoying.

    I get that on my Intel audio chips also. It's because of the "power save" feature. Fortunately (with Intel, at any rate) it's an easy fix.

    Go to the /etc/modprobe.d directory

    Create a new file with a text editor (it requires you be root sudo su)

    audio_disable_powersave.conf

    In that file enter this one line...

    options snd_hda_intel power_save=0

    That ends the crackling (at least it does on my computers with Intel audio).
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    Just because you play "dress up" doesn't
    mean I have to play "make believe."
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Dec 19 09:08:29 2025
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    On 2025-12-19 2:35 a.m., RonB wrote:
    On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2025-12-17 9:04 p.m., kouya wrote:
    Farley Flud wrote:

    I would suppose that all of the distro lackeys on this group use
    either PulseAudio or Pipewire for their sound drivers.

    Well, what the fuck is the matter with Alsa?

    Answer: not a fucking thing.

    Alsa is the foundation of GNU/Linux sound and that is all
    that is necessary.

    Yet the distros will dole out to their lackeys the totally
    unnecessary PulsAudio or Pipewire.

    I use Alsa. That is all, and I can do anything, and more,
    that you can do with your stupid PulseAudio/Pipewire.

    Why be a distro dog? Give your distro the middle finger
    and boldly shout: "I want Alsa! Give me Alsa!"

    These statements only prove you have no idea about the topics you claim a >>> superior opinion over.

    While ALSA is stable and functional now, that wasn't always the case.
    PulseAudio was developed in a time where ALSA was difficult to configure >>> and lacked a number of key features. While it was definitely better than >>> the previous OSS offering, it lacked support for some audio hardware, was >>> difficult to properly configure, and couldn't support more than one
    application at a time.

    Of course, these issues have been ironed out and ALSA has better support >>> nowadays, but there are still things missing that the common user would
    prefer that is filled in with things like PulseAudio and PipeWire.

    I personally use ALSA because I don't really need any complicated dynamic >>> audio device handling or per-application sound control, but that isn't for >>> everyone. Claiming otherwise is idiotic.

    I'll say this much: I have no idea which of them I'm supposed to be
    using. However, whichever distribution I use, I end up with annoying
    crackling that I don't get if I use Windows. I don't know if it's a
    Pipewire, ALSA or PulseAudio issue, but it's terribly annoying.

    I get that on my Intel audio chips also. It's because of the "power save" feature. Fortunately (with Intel, at any rate) it's an easy fix.

    Go to the /etc/modprobe.d directory

    Create a new file with a text editor (it requires you be root sudo su)

    audio_disable_powersave.conf

    In that file enter this one line...

    options snd_hda_intel power_save=0

    That ends the crackling (at least it does on my computers with Intel audio).

    As far as I know, the audio chip is a Realtek one. I am convinced that
    the fix is a simple one, but no amount of searches was able to come up
    with something that I could do. To say the least, it was incredibly frustrating especially since I tend to listen to podcasts or YouTube
    videos while I play. The entire game would run fine but I'd have
    incessant crackling in the back because Linux couldn't handle two
    sources of sound.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
    Windows is fine.
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