<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to do
simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or get
DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in love with
the operating system, he was faced with needing to figure out how to configure the video editor so that he could edit the video he uploaded.
For anyone who is being honest about Linux's shortcomings, this is a
rather fun video.
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:36:24 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to do
simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or get
DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in love with
the operating system, he was faced with needing to figure out how to
configure the video editor so that he could edit the video he uploaded.
For anyone who is being honest about Linux's shortcomings, this is a
rather fun video.
No.
After 17 seconds, switched off.
And you know why.
On 2025-12-18 9:44 a.m., vallor wrote:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:36:24 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
wrote:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to
do simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or
get DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in
love with the operating system, he was faced with needing to
figure out how to configure the video editor so that he could edit
the video he uploaded. For anyone who is being honest about
Linux's shortcomings, this is a rather fun video.
No.
After 17 seconds, switched off.
And you know why.
Because the truth hurts, doesn't it?
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 10:03:50 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-18 9:44 a.m., vallor wrote:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:36:24 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
wrote:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to
do simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or
get DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in
love with the operating system, he was faced with needing to
figure out how to configure the video editor so that he could edit
the video he uploaded. For anyone who is being honest about
Linux's shortcomings, this is a rather fun video.
No.
After 17 seconds, switched off.
And you know why.
Because the truth hurts, doesn't it?
Yeah, that's gotta be it -- not that stupid trolls
are stupid, and I didn't want to sit through 30 minutes
of it to make a point.
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 10:03:50 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-18 9:44 a.m., vallor wrote:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:36:24 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
wrote:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to
do simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or
get DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in
love with the operating system, he was faced with needing to
figure out how to configure the video editor so that he could edit
the video he uploaded. For anyone who is being honest about
Linux's shortcomings, this is a rather fun video.
No.
After 17 seconds, switched off.
And you know why.
Because the truth hurts, doesn't it?
Yeah, that's gotta be it -- not that stupid trolls
are stupid, and I didn't want to sit through 30 minutes
of it to make a point.
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 10:03:50 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-18 9:44 a.m., vallor wrote:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:36:24 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
wrote:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to
do simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or
get DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in
love with the operating system, he was faced with needing to
figure out how to configure the video editor so that he could edit
the video he uploaded. For anyone who is being honest about
Linux's shortcomings, this is a rather fun video.
No.
After 17 seconds, switched off.
And you know why.
Because the truth hurts, doesn't it?
Yeah, that's gotta be it -- not that stupid trolls
are stupid, and I didn't want to sit through 30 minutes
of it to make a point.
vallor wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 10:03:50 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-18 9:44 a.m., vallor wrote:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:36:24 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
wrote:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to
do simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or
get DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in
love with the operating system, he was faced with needing to
figure out how to configure the video editor so that he could edit
the video he uploaded. For anyone who is being honest about
Linux's shortcomings, this is a rather fun video.
No.
After 17 seconds, switched off.
And you know why.
Because the truth hurts, doesn't it?
Yeah, that's gotta be it -- not that stupid trolls
are stupid, and I didn't want to sit through 30 minutes
of it to make a point.
A comment from that silly site:
@Neon217 2 weeks ago
Used to look for the local ISP in tech support. One of the
agents, during training, asked why we didn't offer support for
Linux systems. I spoke up before the trainer had a chance to,
and said "Because if they are using Linux, they know more
about computers than you do." and the trainer just pointed at
me and said "basically that"
He meant s/look/work.
Another one:
@jooanantny8945 2 weeks ago
I switched my girl to fedora kde, installed the chrome,
spotify and libreoffice. Recently asked her what it felt like
now being a linux user. She'd forgotten she had linux on her
laptop😂
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to do
simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or get
DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in love with
the operating system, he was faced with needing to figure out how to configure the video editor so that he could edit the video he uploaded.
For anyone who is being honest about Linux's shortcomings, this is a
rather fun video.
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to do
simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or get
DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in love with
the operating system, he was faced with needing to figure out how to configure the video editor so that he could edit the video he uploaded.
For anyone who is being honest about Linux's shortcomings, this is a
rather fun video.
On 2025-12-18, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 10:03:50 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:You lasted longer than me. I don't like the fast, stop frame, jumping
On 2025-12-18 9:44 a.m., vallor wrote:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:36:24 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
wrote:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to
do simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or
get DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in
love with the operating system, he was faced with needing to
figure out how to configure the video editor so that he could edit
the video he uploaded. For anyone who is being honest about
Linux's shortcomings, this is a rather fun video.
No.
After 17 seconds, switched off.
And you know why.
Because the truth hurts, doesn't it?
Yeah, that's gotta be it -- not that stupid trolls
are stupid, and I didn't want to sit through 30 minutes
of it to make a point.
around video as it gets me dizzy.
On 2025-12-18 10:19 a.m., vallor wrote:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 10:03:50 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-18 9:44 a.m., vallor wrote:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:36:24 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
wrote:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to
do simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or
get DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in
love with the operating system, he was faced with needing to
figure out how to configure the video editor so that he could edit
the video he uploaded. For anyone who is being honest about
Linux's shortcomings, this is a rather fun video.
No.
After 17 seconds, switched off.
And you know why.
Because the truth hurts, doesn't it?
Yeah, that's gotta be it -- not that stupid trolls
are stupid, and I didn't want to sit through 30 minutes
of it to make a point.
Except that he's not a troll. He genuinely wanted to switch and made
every effort to do so. Expectedly, you didn't even care what he had to
say because the only truth you will accept about the Linux experience is that it is excellent. Much like the other Linux advocates, if someone
faces trouble, "the problem is between the keyboard and the screen" or
they didn't "RTFM" enough.
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of
configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on
rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant.
On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:36:24 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to do
simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or get
DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in love with
the operating system, he was faced with needing to figure out how to
configure the video editor so that he could edit the video he uploaded.
For anyone who is being honest about Linux's shortcomings, this is a
rather fun video.
There obviously are applications that are only available or only work well on Windows. If they are your principal uses stay with Windows.
As far as that specific video, I lasted 36 seconds before writing the guy off as an asshole.
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to do
simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or get
DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in love with
the operating system, he was faced with needing to figure out how to
configure the video editor so that he could edit the video he uploaded.
For anyone who is being honest about Linux's shortcomings, this is a
rather fun video.
These "shortcomings" or "compromises" don't effect me. I don't talk to my friends on a computer (I use a phone) or play online games. I don't know
what DaVinci Resolve is. (So I'm definitely not missing it.) I think there are probably a lot of people who use computers the way I use them — for general purpose use.
So, no reason for me to watch this video. Thanks anyhow.
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-18 10:19 a.m., vallor wrote:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 10:03:50 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>
On 2025-12-18 9:44 a.m., vallor wrote:
At Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:36:24 -0500, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
wrote:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvBFbgyERaI>
The entire video is filled with the compromises he had to make to
do simple things such as talk to his friends in an online game or
get DaVinci Resolve to work. Even after he more or less fell in
love with the operating system, he was faced with needing to
figure out how to configure the video editor so that he could edit >>>>>> the video he uploaded. For anyone who is being honest about
Linux's shortcomings, this is a rather fun video.
No.
After 17 seconds, switched off.
And you know why.
Because the truth hurts, doesn't it?
Yeah, that's gotta be it -- not that stupid trolls
are stupid, and I didn't want to sit through 30 minutes
of it to make a point.
Except that he's not a troll. He genuinely wanted to switch and made
every effort to do so. Expectedly, you didn't even care what he had to
say because the only truth you will accept about the Linux experience is
that it is excellent. Much like the other Linux advocates, if someone
faces trouble, "the problem is between the keyboard and the screen" or
they didn't "RTFM" enough.
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of
configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the
insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on
rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant.
You're misery and confusion using Linux is your problem, not mine.
Windows is misery to me. For so many reasons.
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
...
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of
configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the
insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on
rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant.
You're misery and confusion using Linux is your problem, not mine.
Windows is misery to me. For so many reasons.
On 12/19/25 01:56, RonB wrote:
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
...
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of
configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the
insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on
rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant.
You're misery and confusion using Linux is your problem, not mine.
Windows is misery to me. For so many reasons.
Of course, a question is how dated is RonB's experience with Windows.
On 12/19/25 01:56, RonB wrote:
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
...
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of
configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the
insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on
rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant.
You're misery and confusion using Linux is your problem, not mine.
Windows is misery to me. For so many reasons.
Of course, a question is how dated is RonB's experience with Windows.
Because IIRC, his disdain for Apple's MacOS was from the "Classic" OS ~9 era, which OS X rendered obsolete a mere 24.75 years ago (March 2001).
I'm pretty sure that he's used a more recent version of MacOS.
Regardless, I don't believe that he would be enjoy it considering the
amount of unnecessary graphical elements in there compared to something
like Cinnamon. I think he likes things simple, and I don't see what's
wrong with that.
On 2025-12-19 1:10 p.m., -hh wrote:
On 12/19/25 01:56, RonB wrote:
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
...
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of
configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the
insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on
rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant.
You're misery and confusion using Linux is your problem, not mine.
Windows is misery to me. For so many reasons.
Of course, a question is how dated is RonB's experience with Windows.
Because IIRC, his disdain for Apple's MacOS was from the "Classic" OS ~9
era, which OS X rendered obsolete a mere 24.75 years ago (March 2001).
I'm pretty sure that he's used a more recent version of MacOS.
Regardless, I don't believe that he would be enjoy it considering the
amount of unnecessary graphical elements in there compared to something
like Cinnamon. I think he likes things simple, and I don't see what's
wrong with that.
On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 08:25:11 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
I'm pretty sure that he's used a more recent version of MacOS.
Regardless, I don't believe that he would be enjoy it considering the
amount of unnecessary graphical elements in there compared to something
like Cinnamon. I think he likes things simple, and I don't see what's
wrong with that.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/12/19/pearos/?td=rt-3a
"evived distro returns on Arch with KDE Plasma, global menus, and a
familiar macOS-style sheen"
Something for everybody.
I wish the Blackberrys were still made.
At Sun, 21 Dec 2025 07:28:05 -0000 (UTC), RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
I wish the Blackberrys were still made.
Before I bought my first Droid, I was waiting for Palm
to get released on a carrier with their new "WebOS".
(Verizon came out with Droids first, making them a
"kingmaker".)
I had a Palm Treo, and loved it. No, Apple didn't invent
the "smart phone" -- Treo's were plenty smart, and they
ran PalmOS. I could stream my favorite Internet music
streams while out on walks. I could take pictures and
video. I could check my email. It was a "smart phone"
before there was such a name.
ObLinux: Android uses Linux, and I trust that a lot more
than "the competition"...
ObLinux2: "ObLinux" means "obligatory Linux", which is including
something Linux-related in a Linux advocacy post.
At Sun, 21 Dec 2025 07:28:05 -0000 (UTC), RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
I wish the Blackberrys were still made.
Before I bought my first Droid, I was waiting for Palm
to get released on a carrier with their new "WebOS".
(Verizon came out with Droids first, making them a
"kingmaker".)
I had a Palm Treo, and loved it. No, Apple didn't invent
the "smart phone" -- Treo's were plenty smart, and they
ran PalmOS. I could stream my favorite Internet music
streams while out on walks. I could take pictures and
video. I could check my email. It was a "smart phone"
before there was such a name.
vallor wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
At Sun, 21 Dec 2025 07:28:05 -0000 (UTC), RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
I wish the Blackberrys were still made.
Before I bought my first Droid, I was waiting for Palm
to get released on a carrier with their new "WebOS".
(Verizon came out with Droids first, making them a
"kingmaker".)
I had a Palm Treo, and loved it. No, Apple didn't invent
the "smart phone" -- Treo's were plenty smart, and they
ran PalmOS. I could stream my favorite Internet music
streams while out on walks. I could take pictures and
video. I could check my email. It was a "smart phone"
before there was such a name.
I had a Palm Pixi+. It was a nice little phone, and the app store
was decent.
Had a couple of Android phones, then tried an iPhone, not bad, but
too confining, so now I'm on a recent Samsung Galaxy S....
On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 08:25:11 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
I'm pretty sure that he's used a more recent version of MacOS.
Regardless, I don't believe that he would be enjoy it considering the
amount of unnecessary graphical elements in there compared to something
like Cinnamon. I think he likes things simple, and I don't see what's
wrong with that.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/12/19/pearos/?td=rt-3a
"evived distro returns on Arch with KDE Plasma, global menus, and a
familiar macOS-style sheen"
Something for everybody.
On 2025-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-19 1:10 p.m., -hh wrote:
On 12/19/25 01:56, RonB wrote:
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
...
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of
configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the >>>>> insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on
rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant.
You're misery and confusion using Linux is your problem, not mine.
Windows is misery to me. For so many reasons.
Of course, a question is how dated is RonB's experience with Windows.
Because IIRC, his disdain for Apple's MacOS was from the "Classic" OS ~9 >>> era, which OS X rendered obsolete a mere 24.75 years ago (March 2001).
I'm pretty sure that he's used a more recent version of MacOS.
Regardless, I don't believe that he would be enjoy it considering the
amount of unnecessary graphical elements in there compared to something
like Cinnamon. I think he likes things simple, and I don't see what's
wrong with that.
The Mac OS looks pretty. That's about the only compliment I can really give it. As an OS it seems convoluted to me. If I was a graphic artist I would probably use it as it does (or used to) have the most advanced features in the Mac versions of the applications we used in the print shop. Also, if I wanted to unite all my Apple devices and buy into the Apple environment, I would probably like it. I definitely don't want that. I now have a "new" iPhone SE 3. I got fed up with Android. When I was setting the SE up it kept wanting to connect to my old MacBook Air (runs Monterey, BTW) and my old iPhone. I had to keep telling it no. I've managed to skip most of the set
up, but it's nagging me to upgrade to iOS 26.x and finish setting it up. I think the version of the iOS I'm using is old enough not to have any of the AI crap so I'm keeping it there. Let it nag away. I'm not sure it's any better than Android. I wish the Blackberrys were still made.
On 2025-12-21 2:28 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2025-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-19 1:10 p.m., -hh wrote:
On 12/19/25 01:56, RonB wrote:
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
...
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of
configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the >>>>>> insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on
rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant.
You're misery and confusion using Linux is your problem, not mine.
Windows is misery to me. For so many reasons.
Of course, a question is how dated is RonB's experience with Windows.
Because IIRC, his disdain for Apple's MacOS was from the "Classic" OS ~9 >>>> era, which OS X rendered obsolete a mere 24.75 years ago (March 2001).
I'm pretty sure that he's used a more recent version of MacOS.
Regardless, I don't believe that he would be enjoy it considering the
amount of unnecessary graphical elements in there compared to something
like Cinnamon. I think he likes things simple, and I don't see what's
wrong with that.
The Mac OS looks pretty. That's about the only compliment I can really give >> it. As an OS it seems convoluted to me. If I was a graphic artist I would
probably use it as it does (or used to) have the most advanced features in >> the Mac versions of the applications we used in the print shop. Also, if I >> wanted to unite all my Apple devices and buy into the Apple environment, I >> would probably like it. I definitely don't want that. I now have a "new"
iPhone SE 3. I got fed up with Android. When I was setting the SE up it kept >> wanting to connect to my old MacBook Air (runs Monterey, BTW) and my old
iPhone. I had to keep telling it no. I've managed to skip most of the set
up, but it's nagging me to upgrade to iOS 26.x and finish setting it up. I >> think the version of the iOS I'm using is old enough not to have any of the >> AI crap so I'm keeping it there. Let it nag away. I'm not sure it's any
better than Android. I wish the Blackberrys were still made.
If you don't mind Apple integrating all your hardware, MacOS is great.
IF you don't want it to integrate everything, it's painful. Luckily for
me, I am more of the latter. Either way, I don't even know if I'll
actually be able to get a Mac once this machine dies. Even though the
idea seems most obvious to me, I'm still convinced that I won't bite the bullet and will get another Windows machine.
On 2025-12-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-21 2:28 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2025-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-19 1:10 p.m., -hh wrote:
On 12/19/25 01:56, RonB wrote:I'm pretty sure that he's used a more recent version of MacOS.
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
...You're misery and confusion using Linux is your problem, not mine. >>>>>> Windows is misery to me. For so many reasons.
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of >>>>>>> configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the >>>>>>> insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on >>>>>>> rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant. >>>>>>
Of course, a question is how dated is RonB's experience with Windows. >>>>>
Because IIRC, his disdain for Apple's MacOS was from the "Classic" OS ~9 >>>>> era, which OS X rendered obsolete a mere 24.75 years ago (March 2001). >>>>
Regardless, I don't believe that he would be enjoy it considering the
amount of unnecessary graphical elements in there compared to something >>>> like Cinnamon. I think he likes things simple, and I don't see what's
wrong with that.
The Mac OS looks pretty. That's about the only compliment I can really give >>> it. As an OS it seems convoluted to me. If I was a graphic artist I would >>> probably use it as it does (or used to) have the most advanced features in >>> the Mac versions of the applications we used in the print shop. Also, if I >>> wanted to unite all my Apple devices and buy into the Apple environment, I >>> would probably like it. I definitely don't want that. I now have a "new" >>> iPhone SE 3. I got fed up with Android. When I was setting the SE up it kept
wanting to connect to my old MacBook Air (runs Monterey, BTW) and my old >>> iPhone. I had to keep telling it no. I've managed to skip most of the set >>> up, but it's nagging me to upgrade to iOS 26.x and finish setting it up. I >>> think the version of the iOS I'm using is old enough not to have any of the >>> AI crap so I'm keeping it there. Let it nag away. I'm not sure it's any
better than Android. I wish the Blackberrys were still made.
If you don't mind Apple integrating all your hardware, MacOS is great.
IF you don't want it to integrate everything, it's painful. Luckily for
me, I am more of the latter. Either way, I don't even know if I'll
actually be able to get a Mac once this machine dies. Even though the
idea seems most obvious to me, I'm still convinced that I won't bite the
bullet and will get another Windows machine.
I thought I would like Mac OS. I didn't for a few reasons. Mostly it's too "rigid" for me. You have to do things the "Mac way." I like customization.
If Linux was taken away from me and I was told I had to choose between Mac
OS or Windows, I think I would just quit using computers.
On 2025-12-21 2:28 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2025-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-19 1:10 p.m., -hh wrote:
On 12/19/25 01:56, RonB wrote:
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
...
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of
configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the >>>>>> insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on
rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant.
You're misery and confusion using Linux is your problem, not mine.
Windows is misery to me. For so many reasons.
Of course, a question is how dated is RonB's experience with Windows.
Because IIRC, his disdain for Apple's MacOS was from the "Classic" OS ~9 >>>> era, which OS X rendered obsolete a mere 24.75 years ago (March 2001).
I'm pretty sure that he's used a more recent version of MacOS.
Regardless, I don't believe that he would be enjoy it considering the
amount of unnecessary graphical elements in there compared to something
like Cinnamon. I think he likes things simple, and I don't see what's
wrong with that.
The Mac OS looks pretty. That's about the only compliment I can really give >> it. As an OS it seems convoluted to me. If I was a graphic artist I would
probably use it as it does (or used to) have the most advanced features in >> the Mac versions of the applications we used in the print shop. Also, if I >> wanted to unite all my Apple devices and buy into the Apple environment, I >> would probably like it. I definitely don't want that. I now have a "new"
iPhone SE 3. I got fed up with Android. When I was setting the SE up it kept >> wanting to connect to my old MacBook Air (runs Monterey, BTW) and my old
iPhone. I had to keep telling it no. I've managed to skip most of the set
up, but it's nagging me to upgrade to iOS 26.x and finish setting it up. I >> think the version of the iOS I'm using is old enough not to have any of the >> AI crap so I'm keeping it there. Let it nag away. I'm not sure it's any
better than Android. I wish the Blackberrys were still made.
If you don't mind Apple integrating all your hardware, MacOS is great.
IF you don't want it to integrate everything, it's painful. Luckily for
me, I am more of the latter. Either way, I don't even know if I'll
actually be able to get a Mac once this machine dies. Even though the
idea seems most obvious to me, I'm still convinced that I won't bite the bullet and will get another Windows machine.
On 2025-12-22 5:54 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2025-12-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-21 2:28 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2025-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-19 1:10 p.m., -hh wrote:
On 12/19/25 01:56, RonB wrote:I'm pretty sure that he's used a more recent version of MacOS.
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
...You're misery and confusion using Linux is your problem, not mine. >>>>>>> Windows is misery to me. For so many reasons.
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of >>>>>>>> configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the >>>>>>>> insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on >>>>>>>> rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant. >>>>>>>
Of course, a question is how dated is RonB's experience with Windows. >>>>>>
Because IIRC, his disdain for Apple's MacOS was from the "Classic" OS ~9 >>>>>> era, which OS X rendered obsolete a mere 24.75 years ago (March 2001). >>>>>
Regardless, I don't believe that he would be enjoy it considering the >>>>> amount of unnecessary graphical elements in there compared to something >>>>> like Cinnamon. I think he likes things simple, and I don't see what's >>>>> wrong with that.
The Mac OS looks pretty. That's about the only compliment I can really give
it. As an OS it seems convoluted to me. If I was a graphic artist I would >>>> probably use it as it does (or used to) have the most advanced features in >>>> the Mac versions of the applications we used in the print shop. Also, if I >>>> wanted to unite all my Apple devices and buy into the Apple environment, I >>>> would probably like it. I definitely don't want that. I now have a "new" >>>> iPhone SE 3. I got fed up with Android. When I was setting the SE up it kept
wanting to connect to my old MacBook Air (runs Monterey, BTW) and my old >>>> iPhone. I had to keep telling it no. I've managed to skip most of the set >>>> up, but it's nagging me to upgrade to iOS 26.x and finish setting it up. I >>>> think the version of the iOS I'm using is old enough not to have any of the
AI crap so I'm keeping it there. Let it nag away. I'm not sure it's any >>>> better than Android. I wish the Blackberrys were still made.
If you don't mind Apple integrating all your hardware, MacOS is great.
IF you don't want it to integrate everything, it's painful. Luckily for
me, I am more of the latter. Either way, I don't even know if I'll
actually be able to get a Mac once this machine dies. Even though the
idea seems most obvious to me, I'm still convinced that I won't bite the >>> bullet and will get another Windows machine.
I thought I would like Mac OS. I didn't for a few reasons. Mostly it's too >> "rigid" for me. You have to do things the "Mac way." I like customization. >> If Linux was taken away from me and I was told I had to choose between Mac >> OS or Windows, I think I would just quit using computers.
I wouldn't blame you. It's like building your stuff using a hammer, saw
and nails and suddenly being told that you have to use a nail gun and
and an electric saw. It takes a lot of the fun away from the task and
the experience is very different than what you've grown up with.
Rigidity are common themes in both Windows and Mac OS now.
One of the things people don't mention often in Windows is how the
operating system has a Smart App Control feature which blocks you from installing applications Microsoft deems to be unsafe. While it is in Evaluation mode, it mostly stays out of your way; once it's enabled, the most random of things is problematic. qBitTorrent, for example, was an
issue for it. Install the same application from the Microsoft Store (and with a notification that you should pay for the open-source
application), and it's safe.
On 2025-12-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-21 2:28 a.m., RonB wrote:So I have an iPhone 14 and Apple Watch Series 4.
On 2025-12-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-12-19 1:10 p.m., -hh wrote:
On 12/19/25 01:56, RonB wrote:I'm pretty sure that he's used a more recent version of MacOS.
On 2025-12-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
...You're misery and confusion using Linux is your problem, not mine. >>>>>> Windows is misery to me. For so many reasons.
I'm sure 2026 will be the year of Linux. The continued misery of >>>>>>> configuring things ad nauseum to achieve the simplest things and the >>>>>>> insertion of new bugs every day because faggots are insisting on >>>>>>> rewriting everything in Rust should make the experience pleasant. >>>>>>
Of course, a question is how dated is RonB's experience with Windows. >>>>>
Because IIRC, his disdain for Apple's MacOS was from the "Classic" OS ~9 >>>>> era, which OS X rendered obsolete a mere 24.75 years ago (March 2001). >>>>
Regardless, I don't believe that he would be enjoy it considering the
amount of unnecessary graphical elements in there compared to something >>>> like Cinnamon. I think he likes things simple, and I don't see what's
wrong with that.
The Mac OS looks pretty. That's about the only compliment I can really give >>> it. As an OS it seems convoluted to me. If I was a graphic artist I would >>> probably use it as it does (or used to) have the most advanced features in >>> the Mac versions of the applications we used in the print shop. Also, if I >>> wanted to unite all my Apple devices and buy into the Apple environment, I >>> would probably like it. I definitely don't want that. I now have a "new" >>> iPhone SE 3. I got fed up with Android. When I was setting the SE up it kept
wanting to connect to my old MacBook Air (runs Monterey, BTW) and my old >>> iPhone. I had to keep telling it no. I've managed to skip most of the set >>> up, but it's nagging me to upgrade to iOS 26.x and finish setting it up. I >>> think the version of the iOS I'm using is old enough not to have any of the >>> AI crap so I'm keeping it there. Let it nag away. I'm not sure it's any
better than Android. I wish the Blackberrys were still made.
If you don't mind Apple integrating all your hardware, MacOS is great.
IF you don't want it to integrate everything, it's painful. Luckily for
me, I am more of the latter. Either way, I don't even know if I'll
actually be able to get a Mac once this machine dies. Even though the
idea seems most obvious to me, I'm still convinced that I won't bite the
bullet and will get another Windows machine.
I also have a 1 year old Samsung Galaxy mid line model not with me ATM.
Both are on Verizon.
The biggest differences I notice, aside from the Apple walled garden, is
that Carplay is light years ahead of Android Auto in terms of stability in both my
2024 cars.
Also app for app, the Apple versions seem more stable. Things like Zoom, MS Teams, Waze seem smoother on Apple.
Another plus for Apple is out of the box there is very little bloatware where Verizon and Samsung load up the Galaxy with all kinds of crap. Some easy to remove
and some not so easy.
Things I don't like about the iPhone are mainly settings which never seem to be located where I suspect they will be.
Calendar and email is also so-so especially support for Outlook.
Android wins those 2.
Carplay and Android Auto aside it's really a toss up though.
I won't be going back to Android simply because any time a person has a technical problem with their Android phone and ask me for assistance, I
have to learn how their specific edition of Android operates before I
can fix anything. You'd think that one operating system wouldn't have so
many variations, but if you've always used the LG edition of Android and suddenly jump to the Samsung one, you get lost. I imagine it's the same
if you go from Samsung to Motorola. It's a mess, one I simply refuse to tolerate any longer.
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