Check the article:
https://www.theregister.com/2025/12/22/what_linux_desktop_really_needs/
Thus, in order to "compete" with Microslop Winblows, the GNU/Linux
OS needs to drastically REDUCE CHOICE to better accommodate the
vast hordes of idiots that compose the general human population.
Supposedly, even Torvalds himself agrees with this assessment.
I have always maintained that success will destroy the freedom
of GNU/Linux and I am surely vindicated.
The future of GNU/Linux is the end of variety and choice.
It's time now to jump to FreeBSD.
Don't say I didn't tell you so. Assholes.
Now go, like drooling children, and play with with your
Ubuntu/Mint and its Flatpacks.
Thus, in order to "compete" with Microslop Winblows, the GNU/Linux
OS needs to drastically REDUCE CHOICE to better accommodate the
vast hordes of idiots that compose the general human population.
Supposedly, even Torvalds himself agrees with this assessment.
I have always maintained that success will destroy the freedom
of GNU/Linux and I am surely vindicated.
It's time now to jump to FreeBSD.
That is the reason why I will never even try FreeBSD - it seems to
me that it is from hell for satanist.
Farley Flud wrote:
Thus, in order to "compete" with Microslop Winblows, the GNU/Linux OS
needs to drastically REDUCE CHOICE to better accommodate the vast hordes
of idiots that compose the general human population.
Supposedly, even Torvalds himself agrees with this assessment.
Linus has said that the huge variety, the lack of "standardization",
puts some people (and companies) off. But he's also said that he
realizes that the chaos is necessary.
I have always maintained that success will destroy the freedom of
GNU/Linux and I am surely vindicated.
If "success" means having a "de facto standard" Linux distro, then yes,
it would destroy the freedom.
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 14:41:43 -0600, chrisv wrote:
Farley Flud wrote:
Thus, in order to "compete" with Microslop Winblows, the GNU/Linux OS >>>needs to drastically REDUCE CHOICE to better accommodate the vast hordes >>>of idiots that compose the general human population.
Supposedly, even Torvalds himself agrees with this assessment.
Linus has said that the huge variety, the lack of "standardization",
puts some people (and companies) off. But he's also said that he
realizes that the chaos is necessary.
I have always maintained that success will destroy the freedom of >>>GNU/Linux and I am surely vindicated.
If "success" means having a "de facto standard" Linux distro, then yes,
it would destroy the freedom.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/12/22/what_linux_desktop_really_needs/
I've been giving this more thought since the library's project to
introduce Win10 exiles to Linux. Even though it has settled on Linux Mint, the options for Cinnamon, MATE, and Xfce are mentioned to confuse the newbies. I think I got LMDE off the table. While I understand the thinking behind it, LMDE with Cinnamon is one too many.
I run several distros and don't have a problem using the various DEs but
at times I ponder why
apt update
dnf update
zypper patch
pacman -Syu
and I'm sure there are more out there. In its way apt might be the most annoying. "Oh, you wanted to know what will be updates? Run 'apt list -- upgradeable'. Then if you really want to update, run 'apt upgrade'".
I run several distros and don't have a problem using the various DEs but
at times I ponder why
apt update
dnf update
zypper patch
pacman -Syu
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 14:41:43 -0600, chrisv wrote:
Farley Flud wrote:
Thus, in order to "compete" with Microslop Winblows, the GNU/Linux OS >>>needs to drastically REDUCE CHOICE to better accommodate the vast hordes >>>of idiots that compose the general human population.
Supposedly, even Torvalds himself agrees with this assessment.
Linus has said that the huge variety, the lack of "standardization",
puts some people (and companies) off. But he's also said that he
realizes that the chaos is necessary.
I have always maintained that success will destroy the freedom of >>>GNU/Linux and I am surely vindicated.
If "success" means having a "de facto standard" Linux distro, then yes,
it would destroy the freedom.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/12/22/what_linux_desktop_really_needs/
I've been giving this more thought since the library's project to
introduce Win10 exiles to Linux. Even though it has settled on Linux Mint, the options for Cinnamon, MATE, and Xfce are mentioned to confuse the newbies. I think I got LMDE off the table. While I understand the thinking behind it, LMDE with Cinnamon is one too many.
I run several distros and don't have a problem using the various DEs but
at times I ponder why
apt update
dnf update
zypper patch
pacman -Syu
and I'm sure there are more out there. In its way apt might be the most annoying. "Oh, you wanted to know what will be updates? Run 'apt list -- upgradeable'. Then if you really want to update, run 'apt upgrade'".
Farley Flud wrote:
Thus, in order to "compete" with Microslop Winblows, the GNU/Linux
OS needs to drastically REDUCE CHOICE to better accommodate the
vast hordes of idiots that compose the general human population.
Supposedly, even Torvalds himself agrees with this assessment.
Linus has said that the huge variety, the lack of "standardization",
puts some people (and companies) off. But he's also said that he
realizes that the chaos is necessary.
You're damned if you standardize and you're damned if you don't.I have always maintained that success will destroy the freedom
of GNU/Linux and I am surely vindicated.
If "success" means having a "de facto standard" Linux distro, then
yes, it would destroy the freedom.
W dniu 22.12.2025 o 20:25, Farley Flud pisze:
It's time now to jump to FreeBSD.
I think about this last week, but tell me: What the hell is mean daemon
i FreeBSD logo? I am asking because I have very bad feelings when I
enter <https://www.freebsd.org/>! That is the reason why I will never
even try FreeBSD - it seems to me that it is from hell for satanist.
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 23:08:24 +0100, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
That is the reason why I will never even try FreeBSD - it seems to
me that it is from hell for satanist.
Do devils also suffer in hell? Or do they enjoy being there?
You're damned if you standardize and you're damned if you don't.
W dniu 22.12.2025 o 20:25, Farley Flud pisze:
It's time now to jump to FreeBSD.
I think about this last week, but tell me: What the hell is mean daemon
i FreeBSD logo? I am asking because I have very bad feelings when I
enter <https://www.freebsd.org/>! That is the reason why I will never
even try FreeBSD - it seems to me that it is from hell for satanist.
rbowman wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 14:41:43 -0600, chrisv wrote:
Farley Flud wrote:
Thus, in order to "compete" with Microslop Winblows, the GNU/Linux OS
needs to drastically REDUCE CHOICE to better accommodate the vast hordes >>>> of idiots that compose the general human population.
Supposedly, even Torvalds himself agrees with this assessment.
Linus has said that the huge variety, the lack of "standardization",
puts some people (and companies) off. But he's also said that he
realizes that the chaos is necessary.
I have always maintained that success will destroy the freedom of
GNU/Linux and I am surely vindicated.
If "success" means having a "de facto standard" Linux distro, then yes,
it would destroy the freedom.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/12/22/what_linux_desktop_really_needs/
I've been giving this more thought since the library's project to
introduce Win10 exiles to Linux. Even though it has settled on Linux Mint, >> the options for Cinnamon, MATE, and Xfce are mentioned to confuse the
newbies. I think I got LMDE off the table. While I understand the thinking >> behind it, LMDE with Cinnamon is one too many.
I run several distros and don't have a problem using the various DEs but
at times I ponder why
apt update
dnf update
zypper patch
pacman -Syu
and I'm sure there are more out there. In its way apt might be the most
annoying. "Oh, you wanted to know what will be updates? Run 'apt list --
upgradeable'. Then if you really want to update, run 'apt upgrade'".
I use the aptitude (ncurses) front-end to apt. Easy peasy. There's
a GUI, synaptic, as well.
Windows? Except for the "OS" itself, as far as I know you're on
your own for updates.
Just like Windows users often do, with Linux they ask some more
knowledgeable user if they have issues.
I just use the Update Manager in Linux Mint. As for Linux Mint
Desktops...
it usually comes down to this. Is your computer relatively modern and
does it have at least 8 GBs of RAM?... Cinnamon. Is it a thin client
Wyse with 4GBs or less of RAM? ... probably go with Xfce. Mate seems to
be more of a choice for those who've been around Linux Mint for quite a while.
I use the aptitude (ncurses) front-end to apt. Easy peasy. There's a
GUI, synaptic, as well.
Windows? Except for the "OS" itself, as far as I know you're on your own
for updates.
Just like Windows users often do, with Linux they ask some more
knowledgeable user if they have issues.
And get told to RTFM after facing a barrage of insults. Yes, we've all
become accustomed to the Peter the Klöwn approach to technical support.
I imagine that only those unfazed by the "heated dirt" insult actually
get anything resembling assistance.
On 2025-12-22 3:41 p.m., chrisv wrote:
Farley Flud wrote:
Thus, in order to "compete" with Microslop Winblows, the GNU/Linux OS
needs to drastically REDUCE CHOICE to better accommodate the vast
hordes of idiots that compose the general human population.
Supposedly, even Torvalds himself agrees with this assessment.
Linus has said that the huge variety, the lack of "standardization",
puts some people (and companies) off. But he's also said that he
realizes that the chaos is necessary.
That's a fair position. Chaos forces improvement.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 09:05:31 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
You're damned if you standardize and you're damned if you don't.
YOU are damned regardless.
You are a damned idiot, a damned boor, a damned cretin, a damned
loser, a damned ... The list goes on and on.
That's your Catholic side talking. There is nothing Satanic about BSD,
but they chose to have a devil as a logo because the people behind it
have developed a false sense of security in mocking God and not
immediately feelings the consequences of their actions.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 05:01:55 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
I just use the Update Manager in Linux Mint. As for Linux Mint
Desktops...
it usually comes down to this. Is your computer relatively modern and
does it have at least 8 GBs of RAM?... Cinnamon. Is it a thin client
Wyse with 4GBs or less of RAM? ... probably go with Xfce. Mate seems to
be more of a choice for those who've been around Linux Mint for quite a
while.
The 2011 netbook I put LM on had 4GB. I originally installed the MATE iso and it was acceptable. The major problem was the HDD. I replaced that with
a SSD and installed the Cinnamon iso. The SSD worked wonders even as a
SATA drive. Theoretically the RAM can be increased but people on the
forums say the BIOS only recognizes 4 GB.
I should spend some time in a Cinnamon session. In i3 4 terminals and Firefox use 1.3GB. A lot of open GUIs would probably be unpleasant.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 07:51:02 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I use the aptitude (ncurses) front-end to apt. Easy peasy. There's a
GUI, synaptic, as well.
Ubuntu has its own 'Software Updater' GUI and I installed Synaptic.
Usually I use apt. It works on Debian, Ubuntu, and Linux Mint without
having to hunt down the GUI for whatever DE.
Windows? Except for the "OS" itself, as far as I know you're on your own
for updates.
Visual Studio and SQL Server get updates. VS Code is on its own. I don't know which way I prefer. For example Ubuntu just updated some LibreOffice stuff. I don't use LibreOffice but sure as hell if I removed it I would
have to deal with some docx file. Firefox is the same. I do use it on some of the boxes but my default is Brave so I don't necessarily need a new Firefox.
Just like Windows users often do, with Linux they ask some more
knowledgeable user if they have issues.
That works -- sometimes. The less sophisticated the user the more likely they'll get an answer.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 09:33:59 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
And get told to RTFM after facing a barrage of insults. Yes, we've all
become accustomed to the Peter the Klöwn approach to technical support.
I imagine that only those unfazed by the "heated dirt" insult actually
get anything resembling assistance.
It depends. Subreddits like r/Fedora seem to have quite a bit of patience. The worst one I remember was a C++ forum. The gatekeepers had an extremely tight view of what fell under C++ which was mostly the technical minutiae
of the ISO definition. Gods help you if you were actually trying to do something with C++ and if they smelled a hint of Visual C++ you'd wind up nailed to a cross upside down.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 05:01:55 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
I just use the Update Manager in Linux Mint. As for Linux Mint
Desktops...
it usually comes down to this. Is your computer relatively modern and
does it have at least 8 GBs of RAM?... Cinnamon. Is it a thin client
Wyse with 4GBs or less of RAM? ... probably go with Xfce. Mate seems to
be more of a choice for those who've been around Linux Mint for quite a
while.
The 2011 netbook I put LM on had 4GB. I originally installed the MATE iso
and it was acceptable. The major problem was the HDD. I replaced that with
a SSD and installed the Cinnamon iso. The SSD worked wonders even as a
SATA drive. Theoretically the RAM can be increased but people on the
forums say the BIOS only recognizes 4 GB.
I should spend some time in a Cinnamon session. In i3 4 terminals and
Firefox use 1.3GB. A lot of open GUIs would probably be unpleasant.
At Tue, 23 Dec 2025 14:18:18 +0000, Farley Flud
<fsquared@fsquared.linux> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 09:05:31 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
You're damned if you standardize and you're damned if you don't.
YOU are damned regardless.
You are a damned idiot, a damned boor, a damned cretin, a damned
loser, a damned ... The list goes on and on.
"Damnation doctrine is spiritual terrorism."
Which has FSCK ALL to do with Linux. Can we puh-leese keep
the religio-extremism to the appropriate newsfroups, puh-leese?
ObLinux:
$ bible mt6:22-23
Matthew 6
22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be
single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of
darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great
is that darkness!
On the Windows side, the help groups tend to attract people who mean
well but seriously don't have a clue what they are talking about.
Fortunately they get corrected rather quickly.
Overall people are helpful.
Just double check the advice before applying.
Out of curiosity, have you stumbled upon "The Chosen" as a TV show. It's
a rather interesting take on Jesus's story since it mostly focuses on
the people around him.
Anyways, Linux will run well on it even though it will be a pain in the
ass to install the proprietary Broadcom wireless drivers and the webcam
will cease to work. Either way, it stays out of a landfill.
On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 00:07:36 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
On the Windows side, the help groups tend to attract people who mean
well but seriously don't have a clue what they are talking about.
Fortunately they get corrected rather quickly.
Overall people are helpful.
Just double check the advice before applying.
In one of the subreddits today a person was going to use CloneZilla in
case he wanted to go back to Windows. He made the mistake of asking the
Best Buy Geek Squad. IRL ex-spurts aren't that reliable either.
My father was cynical: if someone asks you a question you can tell them anything because they don't know.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 09:05:31 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
You're damned if you standardize and you're damned if you don't.
YOU are damned regardless.
You are a damned idiot, a damned boor, a damned cretin, a damned loser,
a damned ... The list goes on and on.
On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 23:08:24 +0100, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
W dniu 22.12.2025 o 20:25, Farley Flud pisze:
It's time now to jump to FreeBSD.
I think about this last week, but tell me: What the hell is mean daemon
i FreeBSD logo? I am asking because I have very bad feelings when I
enter <https://www.freebsd.org/>! That is the reason why I will never
even try FreeBSD - it seems to me that it is from hell for satanist.
The meaning of the "BSD Daemon" is explained by FreeBSD itself:
https://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon/
What puzzles me, however, is why Linux is represented by a stupid,
ridiculous Penguin. One would think a Dragon or similar mythical
beast of potency would have been selected.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 09:10:41 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
That's your Catholic side talking. There is nothing Satanic about BSD,
but they chose to have a devil as a logo because the people behind it
have developed a false sense of security in mocking God and not
immediately feelings the consequences of their actions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_Daemon
Blame it on Plato, or maybe Maxwell.
https://homepages.abdn.ac.uk/j.s.reid/pages/Maxwell/Legacy/MaxDemon.html
Maxwell would be upset; a good Presbyterian he didn't call his critter a demon. Lord Kelvin wasn't as scrupulous.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 22:07:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
Out of curiosity, have you stumbled upon "The Chosen" as a TV show. It's
a rather interesting take on Jesus's story since it mostly focuses on
the people around him.
I couldn't get past the 'Jesus as one of the bros' treatment. It didn't
help that the Jenkins apple didn't fall far from the tree.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 22:04:01 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
Anyways, Linux will run well on it even though it will be a pain in the
ass to install the proprietary Broadcom wireless drivers and the webcam
will cease to work. Either way, it stays out of a landfill.
The old Acer netbook has a Broadcom chip that isn't recognized by the
Lubuntu or Linux Mint install. Since I don't have a wired connection I
have a Panda USB WiFi dongle. That gets me through the install. The Linux Mint Driver Manager GUI recognizes the Broadcom chip, installs the driver, and it's good to go.
Farley Flud wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 09:05:31 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
You're damned if you standardize and you're damned if you don't.
YOU are damned regardless.
You are a damned idiot, a damned boor, a damned cretin, a damned loser,
a damned ... The list goes on and on.
He's "heated dirt" :-D
I can spend a few bucks on a USB ethernet device or I can just tether to
my phone that one time. I'll do the latter. The only thing I'll never be
able to get working consistently is the webcam. I could get it to work
one time under Linux on the 2017 edition of this same machine, but the
moment the kernel changed, it was back to square one.
On 2025-12-23 4:53 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 05:01:55 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
I just use the Update Manager in Linux Mint. As for Linux Mint
Desktops...
it usually comes down to this. Is your computer relatively modern and
does it have at least 8 GBs of RAM?... Cinnamon. Is it a thin client
Wyse with 4GBs or less of RAM? ... probably go with Xfce. Mate seems to
be more of a choice for those who've been around Linux Mint for quite a
while.
The 2011 netbook I put LM on had 4GB. I originally installed the MATE iso
and it was acceptable. The major problem was the HDD. I replaced that with >> a SSD and installed the Cinnamon iso. The SSD worked wonders even as a
SATA drive. Theoretically the RAM can be increased but people on the
forums say the BIOS only recognizes 4 GB.
I should spend some time in a Cinnamon session. In i3 4 terminals and
Firefox use 1.3GB. A lot of open GUIs would probably be unpleasant.
I just spent $30 to get a 2013 MacBook Air on eBay. It has a 250GB SSD,
4GB of RAM and is clearly useless by today's standards. I only bought it because I have some leftover Apple accessories I feel I can still use
after dropping coffee on the 2017 MacBook Air I purchased earlier this
year. Anyways, Linux will run well on it even though it will be a pain
in the ass to install the proprietary Broadcom wireless drivers and the webcam will cease to work. Either way, it stays out of a landfill.
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 22:07:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
Out of curiosity, have you stumbled upon "The Chosen" as a TV show. It's
a rather interesting take on Jesus's story since it mostly focuses on
the people around him.
I couldn't get past the 'Jesus as one of the bros' treatment. It didn't
help that the Jenkins apple didn't fall far from the tree.
On 2025-12-24, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 22:07:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
Out of curiosity, have you stumbled upon "The Chosen" as a TV
show. It's a rather interesting take on Jesus's story since it
mostly focuses on the people around him.
I couldn't get past the 'Jesus as one of the bros' treatment. It
didn't help that the Jenkins apple didn't fall far from the tree.
That's seems to be a Baptist kind of thing. I remember when "Got
Milk" was a big deal, so the "Jesus is my bro" people started using
"Got Jesus" bumper stickers. I don't think they quite understand
infinite divide between an almighty God and man.
At Thu, 25 Dec 2025 08:26:32 -0000 (UTC), RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2025-12-24, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 22:07:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
Out of curiosity, have you stumbled upon "The Chosen" as a TV
show. It's a rather interesting take on Jesus's story since it
mostly focuses on the people around him.
I couldn't get past the 'Jesus as one of the bros' treatment. It
didn't help that the Jenkins apple didn't fall far from the tree.
That's seems to be a Baptist kind of thing. I remember when "Got
Milk" was a big deal, so the "Jesus is my bro" people started using
"Got Jesus" bumper stickers. I don't think they quite understand
infinite divide between an almighty God and man.
I think one couldn't do worse than to apprehend that Joshua
once wrassled God.
But when Moses asked God in what Name he should name him to
the Hebrews, God said, "I AM THAT I AM" and "tell them I AM sent
you".
Ever look at the sky while camping? All those stars? The _awe_?
That is what is meant by "fear" of God.
This business about considering God "out of reach" is just that:
nonsense. You were created in God's image. (I read that somewhere.)
ObLinux:
$ bible ex3:14
Exodus 3
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt
thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
On 12/25/25 7:07 AM, vallor wrote:
At Thu, 25 Dec 2025 08:26:32 -0000 (UTC), RonB
<ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2025-12-24, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 22:07:37 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
Out of curiosity, have you stumbled upon "The Chosen" as a TV
show. It's a rather interesting take on Jesus's story since it
mostly focuses on the people around him.
I couldn't get past the 'Jesus as one of the bros' treatment. It
didn't help that the Jenkins apple didn't fall far from the tree.
That's seems to be a Baptist kind of thing. I remember when "Got
Milk" was a big deal, so the "Jesus is my bro" people started using
"Got Jesus" bumper stickers. I don't think they quite understand
infinite divide between an almighty God and man.
I think one couldn't do worse than to apprehend that Joshua
once wrassled God.
But when Moses asked God in what Name he should name him to
the Hebrews, God said, "I AM THAT I AM" and "tell them I AM sent
you".
Ever look at the sky while camping? All those stars? The _awe_?
That is what is meant by "fear" of God.
This business about considering God "out of reach" is just that:
nonsense. You were created in God's image. (I read that
somewhere.)
ObLinux:
$ bible ex3:14
Exodus 3
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus
shalt
thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
RonB and CrudeSausage aren't Christians. They're Christian
nationalists, which is an entirely different thing, akin to Nazism
because it aligns with Trump and other elitist, anti-egalitarian, white-supremacist fallacy.
RonB and CrudeSausage aren't Christians. They're Christian
nationalists, which is an entirely different thing, akin to Nazism
because it aligns with Trump and other elitist, anti-egalitarian,
white-supremacist fallacy.
Ultimately, we shouldn't give up on our brethren.
Perhaps there will be a Christmas miracle.
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