• Any Math Heads Out There?

    From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.math,sci.physics on Wed Dec 24 13:30:01 2025
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    Any math heads out there?

    The following two expressions are equal. That is, substituting any value
    of t in the expressions will produce the same value.

    Yet, I cannot reduce one to the other using algebra and the trig identities.
    It must be possible but I can't find a way to do it.

    Can you?

    Eternal fame awaits the person who can solve this.


    Expression 1:

    ⎛ _______________ ⎞
    ⎜ _ ╱ 2 ⎛ 4 2 ⎞ ⎟
    ⎜8 ⋅ ╲╱3 ⋅ cos(t) ⋅ ╲╱ 3 ⋅ cos(t) + 1 ⋅ sin(t) + ⎝27 ⋅ cos(t) + 18 ⋅ cos(t) + 3⎠ ⋅ sin(t)⎟
    ⎜───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────⎟
    ⎜ 4 2 ⎟
    ⎝ 36 ⋅ cos(t) + 24 ⋅ cos(t) + 4 ⎠


    Expression 2:

    ⎛ _______________ ⎞
    ⎜ ╱ 2 ⎛ 2 ⎞ _ ⎟
    ⎜╲╱ 3 ⋅ cos(t) + 1 ⋅ ⎝9 ⋅ cos(t) + 3⎠ ⋅ sin(t) + 8 ⋅ ╲╱3 ⋅ cos(t) ⋅ sin(t)⎟
    ⎜───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────⎟
    ⎜ _______________ ⎟
    ⎜ ╱ 2 ⎛ 2 ⎞ ⎟
    ⎝ ╲╱ 3 ⋅ cos(t) + 1 ⋅ ⎝12 ⋅ cos(t) + 4⎠ ⎠
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  • From Doc Hammerslack@dochammerslack@creon.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 24 16:39:24 2025
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    At Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:30:01 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

    Any meth heads out there?

    Only you, Bozo.
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  • From Farley Flud@fflud@gnu.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 24 16:43:18 2025
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    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 16:39:24 +0000, Doc Hammerslack wrote:

    At Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:30:01 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

    Any meth heads out there?

    Only you, Bozo.


    So true.

    You are a DICK HEAD and only a DICK HEAD and always
    a DICK HEAD.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
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  • From Doc Hammerslack@dochammerslack@creon.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 24 16:52:44 2025
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    At Wed, 24 Dec 2025 16:43:18 +0000, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 16:39:24 +0000, Doc Hammerslack wrote:

    At Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:30:01 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

    Any meth heads out there?

    Only you, Bozo.


    So true.

    Well, that was easy. (Please consider a chemical dependency
    program near you.)

    Don't feel bad -- you have been HAD by...
    DOC HAMMERSLACK!
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  • From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.math,sci.physics on Wed Dec 24 18:36:37 2025
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    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:30:01 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    Any math heads out there?


    Eternal fame awaits the person who can solve this.


    You may be wondering how I arrived at these particular expressions
    and what they have to do with GNU/Linux.

    Fret not. I shall reveal.

    I was exploring general tangent plane vectors along a general
    sphere geodesic using the open-source GNU/Linux Maxima:

    <https://maxima.sourceforge.io/>

    I had derived the covariant derivative of the general tangent
    vector using both the intrinsic (Christoffel symbols) and extrinsic
    (projection onto unit normal) methods. They should be equal
    but the expressions were different. Yet they are indeed equal.
    One must be reducible to the other but I can't figure out how
    to do it.

    If you can perform this reduction you will gain everlasting
    fame.

    So get to it.
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 24 13:57:53 2025
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    On 12/24/25 1:36 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:30:01 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    Any math heads out there?


    Eternal fame awaits the person who can solve this.

    You may be wondering how I arrived at these particular expressions
    and what they have to do with GNU/Linux.

    Fret not. I shall reveal.

    I was exploring general tangent plane vectors along a general
    sphere geodesic using the open-source GNU/Linux Maxima:

    <https://maxima.sourceforge.io/>

    I had derived the covariant derivative of the general tangent
    vector using both the intrinsic (Christoffel symbols) and extrinsic (projection onto unit normal) methods. They should be equal
    but the expressions were different. Yet they are indeed equal.
    One must be reducible to the other but I can't figure out how
    to do it.

    If you can perform this reduction you will gain everlasting
    fame.

    So get to it.


    Why are we supposed to think this bullshit has anything to do with
    advocating Linux?
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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 24 19:23:35 2025
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    On Dec 24, 2025 at 8:30:01 AM EST, "Farley Flud" <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

    Any math heads out there?

    I see you are STILL stuck on trivial math problems.

    I solve problems WAY more complicated than this. Every day.
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  • From Farley Flud@fflud@gnu.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 24 19:31:06 2025
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    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 19:23:35 +0000, Tyrone wrote:


    I solve problems WAY more complicated than this. Every day.


    Today is the day that you fall flat on your fucking face.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 24 14:32:44 2025
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    On 12/24/25 2:31 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 19:23:35 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

    I solve problems WAY more complicated than this. Every day.

    Today is the day that you fall flat on your fucking face.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


    You're a jerk-off.
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  • From sobriquet@dohduhdah@yahoo.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 24 21:32:11 2025
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    Op 24-12-2025 om 19:36 schreef Farley Flud:
    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:30:01 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    Any math heads out there?


    Eternal fame awaits the person who can solve this.


    You may be wondering how I arrived at these particular expressions
    and what they have to do with GNU/Linux.

    Fret not. I shall reveal.

    I was exploring general tangent plane vectors along a general
    sphere geodesic using the open-source GNU/Linux Maxima:

    <https://maxima.sourceforge.io/>

    I had derived the covariant derivative of the general tangent
    vector using both the intrinsic (Christoffel symbols) and extrinsic (projection onto unit normal) methods. They should be equal
    but the expressions were different. Yet they are indeed equal.
    One must be reducible to the other but I can't figure out how
    to do it.

    If you can perform this reduction you will gain everlasting
    fame.

    So get to it.


    I prefer desmos, because you can just link to graphs to easily share things.

    https://www.desmos.com/calculator/vnj4fplzus

    I haven't worked out in detail why these expressions are equal, but they
    do seem to boil down to something fairly close.

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  • From sobriquet@dohduhdah@yahoo.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.math on Wed Dec 24 21:37:57 2025
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    Op 24-12-2025 om 21:32 schreef sobriquet:
    Op 24-12-2025 om 19:36 schreef Farley Flud:
    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:30:01 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    Any math heads out there?


    Eternal fame awaits the person who can solve this.


    You may be wondering how I arrived at these particular expressions
    and what they have to do with GNU/Linux.

    Fret not.  I shall reveal.

    I was exploring general tangent plane vectors along a general
    sphere geodesic using the open-source GNU/Linux Maxima:

    <https://maxima.sourceforge.io/>

    I had derived the covariant derivative of the general tangent
    vector using both the intrinsic (Christoffel symbols) and extrinsic
    (projection onto unit normal) methods.  They should be equal
    but the expressions were different.  Yet they are indeed equal.
    One must be reducible to the other but I can't figure out how
    to do it.

    If you can perform this reduction you will gain everlasting
    fame.

    So get to it.


    I prefer desmos, because you can just link to graphs to easily share
    things.

    https://www.desmos.com/calculator/vnj4fplzus

    I haven't worked out in detail why these expressions are equal, but they
    do seem to boil down to something fairly close.


    Oh I see, they are equal because you can multiply by (3cos(x)^2+1)/(3cos(x)^2+1) to turn h0(t) into g0(t).

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  • From kouya@kouyaheika@canithesis.org to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 24 21:49:01 2025
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    Doc Hammerslack wrote:

    At Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:30:01 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

    Any meth heads out there?

    Only you, Bozo.


    This really does explains everything.
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Wed Dec 24 22:58:24 2025
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    On 12/24/25 10:49 PM, kouya wrote:
    Doc Hammerslack wrote:
    At Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:30:01 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

    Any meth heads out there?

    Only you, Bozo.

    This really does explains everything.


    Or he drinks Faygo Cola a lot, or one of the other energy drink-type
    products (Barq's Root Beer, Mr. Pibb, Sunkist Orange, Red Bull, Full Throttle). Red pills, as it were. No one comes to God but through
    Jesus, which is Pepsi (or Mountain Dew).
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  • From Farley Flud@ff@linux.rocks to comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.math on Thu Dec 25 11:27:15 2025
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    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 21:37:57 +0100, sobriquet wrote:


    I prefer desmos, because you can just link to graphs to easily share
    things.

    https://www.desmos.com/calculator/vnj4fplzus


    The problem is that the site is controlled by a proprietary,
    closed-source entity, desmos.com.

    Usenet is not Facebook and open-source software is preferred
    for sharing.


    Oh I see, they are equal because you can multiply by (3cos(x)^2+1)/(3cos(x)^2+1) to turn h0(t) into g0(t).


    Great! It's doubtful if I would have ever made that observation.

    But you mis-typed your equation. The variable should be "t."

    I am wondering, however, if the Maxima simplification routines
    should have handled this better.
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