• Re: A fresh Neo or not-so-fresh Air? Good question!

    From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Mar 18 18:16:39 2026
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    On Tue, 17 Mar 2026 23:28:48 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

    I get the impression that Samsung's less expensive phones are
    essentially remakes of slightly older Galaxy S models, more or less.

    I don't know much about phones and am not interested in the cameras and so forth. I liked the Nokia but it became pregnant and changing the battery
    would be a real PITA. I looked at the reviews for low end phones and the Samsung sounded okay. iirc it was $175 unlocked at Best Buy. I use Mint
    and it is compatible.

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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Mar 18 15:46:14 2026
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    On 3/18/2026 2:16 PM, rbowman wrote:

    I get the impression that Samsung's less expensive phones are
    essentially remakes of slightly older Galaxy S models, more or less.

    I don't know much about phones and am not interested in the cameras and so forth. I liked the Nokia but it became pregnant and changing the battery would be a real PITA. I looked at the reviews for low end phones and the Samsung sounded okay. iirc it was $175 unlocked at Best Buy. I use Mint
    and it is compatible.


    One suggestion I have, at least with Samsung phones, is to expect the
    USB-C jack to stop accepting power to recharge - instead of demanding an exchange or buying a new phone, the wireless charger is the solution.
    It's easier to use anyway, not terribly costly. Saves a lot of hassle.
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Mar 18 23:03:25 2026
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    On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 15:46:14 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

    One suggestion I have, at least with Samsung phones, is to expect the
    USB-C jack to stop accepting power to recharge - instead of demanding an exchange or buying a new phone, the wireless charger is the solution.
    It's easier to use anyway, not terribly costly. Saves a lot of hassle.

    The A16 does not have wireless charging. You can kludge it with an adapter that plugs into the USB-C but if it stops working...
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Mar 18 19:37:13 2026
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    On 3/18/2026 7:03 PM, rbowman wrote:

    One suggestion I have, at least with Samsung phones, is to expect the
    USB-C jack to stop accepting power to recharge - instead of demanding an
    exchange or buying a new phone, the wireless charger is the solution.
    It's easier to use anyway, not terribly costly. Saves a lot of hassle.

    The A16 does not have wireless charging. You can kludge it with an adapter that plugs into the USB-C but if it stops working...


    My current S21 lost the ability to charge with the sold-separately wired charger when it was well within warranty, I could've demanded an
    exchange but that's an incredible PITA, so I knew from my S10 that I
    should just get the wireless one. It's too bad yours can't use it.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Mar 19 01:37:47 2026
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    On 18 Mar 2026 01:27:23 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Mar 17, 2026 at 5:13:58 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <10pcqo6$3d18p$2@dont-email.me>:

    The MacBook Neo is one bit of evidence. The other is respective market
    share among Steam subscribers.

    In short: no. You have no evidence.

    In 2025 they reportedly had a 10-15% increase in Mac sales. That is not "dwindling". They have had three year of growth.

    What are the actual numbers? Your percentages have no context.
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Mar 19 11:52:11 2026
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    On 3/18/2026 9:37 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On 18 Mar 2026 01:27:23 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Mar 17, 2026 at 5:13:58 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <10pcqo6$3d18p$2@dont-email.me>:

    The MacBook Neo is one bit of evidence. The other is respective market
    share among Steam subscribers.

    In short: no. You have no evidence.

    In 2025 they reportedly had a 10-15% increase in Mac sales. That is not
    "dwindling". They have had three year of growth.

    What are the actual numbers? Your percentages have no context.


    Unlike your leap of logic based on Steam accounts' OS? Heh.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Mar 19 15:56:54 2026
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    On Mar 18, 2026 at 6:37:47 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <10pfk1a$beqp$3@dont-email.me>:

    On 18 Mar 2026 01:27:23 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Mar 17, 2026 at 5:13:58 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <10pcqo6$3d18p$2@dont-email.me>:

    The MacBook Neo is one bit of evidence. The other is respective market
    share among Steam subscribers.

    In short: no. You have no evidence.

    In 2025 they reportedly had a 10-15% increase in Mac sales. That is not
    "dwindling". They have had three year of growth.

    What are the actual numbers? Your percentages have no context.

    You claimed "Mac sales are dwindling". If they are going up, which evidence suggests they are, then you are wrong.

    We can look at actual numbers if you want... but are you willing to admit your "dwindling" claim is just something you pulled out of your nether regions?
    --
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Mar 19 12:31:33 2026
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    On 2026-03-18 18:37, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On 18 Mar 2026 01:27:23 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Mar 17, 2026 at 5:13:58 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <10pcqo6$3d18p$2@dont-email.me>:

    The MacBook Neo is one bit of evidence. The other is respective market
    share among Steam subscribers.

    In short: no. You have no evidence.

    In 2025 they reportedly had a 10-15% increase in Mac sales. That is not
    "dwindling". They have had three year of growth.

    What are the actual numbers? Your percentages have no context.

    Your specific claim was:

    "I think this is a response to dwindling Mac sales."

    If Mac sales are increasing...

    ...then they really can't be dwindling, now can they...

    ...regardless of how many Steam subscribers there are...

    ...right?

    <https://www.idc.com/resource-center/press-releases/4q25-pc-top-5-pr/>

    'Top 5 Companies, Worldwide Traditional PC Shipments, Market Share, and Year-Over-Year Growth, 2025 vs. 2024 (Preliminary results, shipments are
    in millions of units)

    Company 2025 (Units) 2024 (Units) 2025/2024 Growth

    Apple (4th) 25.6 23.0 11.1%
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 20 00:28:40 2026
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    On 19 Mar 2026 15:56:54 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Mar 18, 2026 at 6:37:47 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <10pfk1a$beqp$3@dont-email.me>:

    On 18 Mar 2026 01:27:23 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Mar 17, 2026 at 5:13:58 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <10pcqo6$3d18p$2@dont-email.me>:

    The MacBook Neo is one bit of evidence. The other is respective market >>>> share among Steam subscribers.

    In short: no. You have no evidence.

    In 2025 they reportedly had a 10-15% increase in Mac sales. That
    is not "dwindling". They have had three year of growth.

    What are the actual numbers? Your percentages have no context.

    You claimed "Mac sales are dwindling".

    I think that’s still true, at least long-term, just based on Apple’s actions alone. It would be behaving very differently if Mac sales were
    enjoying ongoing success.

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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Mar 19 18:18:13 2026
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    On 2026-03-19 17:28, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On 19 Mar 2026 15:56:54 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Mar 18, 2026 at 6:37:47 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <10pfk1a$beqp$3@dont-email.me>:

    On 18 Mar 2026 01:27:23 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Mar 17, 2026 at 5:13:58 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <10pcqo6$3d18p$2@dont-email.me>:

    The MacBook Neo is one bit of evidence. The other is respective market >>>>> share among Steam subscribers.

    In short: no. You have no evidence.

    In 2025 they reportedly had a 10-15% increase in Mac sales. That
    is not "dwindling". They have had three year of growth.

    What are the actual numbers? Your percentages have no context.

    You claimed "Mac sales are dwindling".

    I think that’s still true, at least long-term, just based on Apple’s actions alone. It would be behaving very differently if Mac sales were enjoying ongoing success.
    Are you familiar with the term "circular argument"?

    You "think"?

    Based on WHAT?

    Here:

    Q1 2025: Apple's PC shipments were up 14.1% YoY for the first quarter.

    Faster than the overall market which was only up 4.9%

    <https://my.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS53304025>



    Q2 2025: Apple's PC shipments were up 21.4% YoY for the second quarter.

    Faster than the overall market which was only up 6.5%

    <https://my.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS53677225>



    Q3 2025: Apple's PC shipments were up 13.7% YoY for the third quarter.

    Faster than the overall market which was only up 9.4%

    <https://my.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS53855725>



    Q4 2025: Apple's PC shipments were up only 0.2% YoY for the fourth quarter.

    Which was slower than the overall shipments, which were up 9.6%

    <https://www.pressreleasepoint.com/2025-holiday-pc-shipments-exceed-expectations-vendors-accelerate-inventory-purchases-amid-supply>

    But for the year (from the same source), Mac shipments were up for 2025
    by 11.1%...

    ...while the total shipments were up by 8.1%.


    So...

    ...what exactly have you got?
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 20 05:23:56 2026
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    On Mar 19, 2026 at 5:28:40 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <10pi4bn$1558f$7@dont-email.me>:

    On 19 Mar 2026 15:56:54 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Mar 18, 2026 at 6:37:47 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <10pfk1a$beqp$3@dont-email.me>:

    On 18 Mar 2026 01:27:23 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

    On Mar 17, 2026 at 5:13:58 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <10pcqo6$3d18p$2@dont-email.me>:

    The MacBook Neo is one bit of evidence. The other is respective market >>>>> share among Steam subscribers.

    In short: no. You have no evidence.

    In 2025 they reportedly had a 10-15% increase in Mac sales. That
    is not "dwindling". They have had three year of growth.

    What are the actual numbers? Your percentages have no context.

    You claimed "Mac sales are dwindling".

    I think that’s still true, at least long-term, just based on Apple’s actions alone. It would be behaving very differently if Mac sales were enjoying ongoing success.

    You base the idea of "dwindling" on your view of their actions, not the actual sales numbers? That is odd, to say the least.

    In 2023 they did have a slump -- as did the whole industry. Before that, in 2020-2022 they outdid the industry. Since 2023 then they have had year over year growth. Moving to their own chips (the M-series) has been very successful for them.

    Here is what I found (combining a few sources):

    Year Mac Growth PC Growth
    2025 +11.1% ~8.5%
    2024 +5.0% (est.) ~1.7%
    2023 -22.4% ~14%
    2022 +10.9% -16.5%
    2021 +28.3% +14.6%
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  • From chrisv@chrisv@nospam.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 20 07:11:01 2026
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    Lawrence DÿOliveiro wrote:

    You claimed "Mac sales are dwindling".

    I think that’s still true, at least long-term, just based on Apple’s
    actions alone. It would be behaving very differently if Mac sales were >enjoying ongoing success.

    Good grief, man. That's the worst argument that I've seen made in
    here in some time.
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    "Microsoft chooses to break the law when it suits them. Does that make
    them a bad corporation?" - Oliver Wrong
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 20 13:52:31 2026
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    On 3/19/2026 8:28 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On 19 Mar 2026 15:56:54 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Mar 18, 2026 at 6:37:47 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <10pfk1a$beqp$3@dont-email.me>:
    On 18 Mar 2026 01:27:23 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:
    On Mar 17, 2026 at 5:13:58 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote
    <10pcqo6$3d18p$2@dont-email.me>:

    The MacBook Neo is one bit of evidence. The other is respective market >>>>> share among Steam subscribers.

    In short: no. You have no evidence.

    In 2025 they reportedly had a 10-15% increase in Mac sales. That
    is not "dwindling". They have had three year of growth.

    What are the actual numbers? Your percentages have no context.

    You claimed "Mac sales are dwindling".

    I think that’s still true, at least long-term, just based on Apple’s actions alone. It would be behaving very differently if Mac sales were enjoying ongoing success.


    The lower-end device actually indicates they're confident there's
    greater interest in their platform overall.
    --
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