I shouldn't complain though, our
rates are still much lower than most of the country. Most of the power
is generated by damns that were built years ago.
On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 07:49:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:===== heh heh
I shouldn't complain though, our
rates are still much lower than most of the country. Most of the power
is generated by damns that were built years ago.
The governor at the time, Racicot, was big on deregulation. What that achieved was de-industrialization as the aluminum foundries and pulp mill couldn't afford the deregulated power. He went on to become a lobbyist.
When he endorsed Biden over Trump the state Republicans told him to FOAD.
CrudeSausage wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for >>Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more. >>System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games & >>Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux,
it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating >>system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or >>security.
How can they possibly prevent Canonical, or anyone else, from offering downloads without this garbage? They can't.
On 2026-03-18 3:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-17 6:10 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for >>>>> Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more.
System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games & >>>>> Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux, >>>>> it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating >>>>> system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or >>>>> security.
More build-up for the world-wide Electronic Gulag. That's the real reason >>>> corporations are so crazed about this AI bullshit. I hope Iran knocks some >>>> more server farms while they're at it.
I don't believe that Iran will be doing much more damage going forward.
As much as the media wants us to believe that the US and Israel are
failing miserably over there, there is no substance whatsoever to their
claims.
I think you're mistaken here. I've seen the satellite images. There's
basically no radars or working U.S. bases left in the Gulf (or even Jordan). >> And now they're hitting Israel after yet another "decapitation" murder by
the genocidal Zionists. I know the Strait of Hormuz is still closed (to all >> but the Chinese, it seems). Meanwhile the U.S. is keeping their battle ships >> far out of range, while Trump (who claims the Iranians are decimated) is
whining that no one in NATO will help. (He wants their ships to get blown
up.) So which is it? Are the Iranians defeated, or does Trump need the help >> of the NATO countries (the ones he keeps leveling tariffs on and insulting). >> If the war is over, why does NATO matter to him? It doesn't add up.
As I explained to my wife, NATO allies stepping to defend the Strait is evidence that there is still a point to there even being a NATO. If the United States is to be tasked with defending the European "allies," they should at least be willing to help Americans in this one task. If they
are unwilling to do so, NATO might as well cease to exist.
On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 07:49:12 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
I shouldn't complain though, our
rates are still much lower than most of the country. Most of the power
is generated by damns that were built years ago.
Where I live goes back to the Rural Electrification Act in the '30s so I'm in a co-op that contracts with the BPA. The city was Montana Power. MPC
sold all their power assets to out of state corporations and went into the telecommunications business just in time for the dot-com crash. They went Chapter 11, and the customers took it in the shorts.
The governor at the time, Racicot, was big on deregulation. What that achieved was de-industrialization as the aluminum foundries and pulp mill couldn't afford the deregulated power. He went on to become a lobbyist.
When he endorsed Biden over Trump the state Republicans told him to FOAD.
chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for >>>Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more. >>>System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games & >>>Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux, >>>it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating >>>system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or >>>security.
How can they possibly prevent Canonical, or anyone else, from offering
downloads without this garbage? They can't.
I hope you're right, but I wouldn't be sure about it.
On 2026-03-18, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for
Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more.
System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games &
Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux,
it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating
system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or
security.
How can they possibly prevent Canonical, or anyone else, from offering
downloads without this garbage? They can't.
I hope you're right, but I wouldn't be sure about it.
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-18 3:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-17 6:10 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for >>>>>> Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in> >>>>>>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more. >>>>>> System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games & >>>>>> Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux, >>>>>> it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating >>>>>> system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or >>>>>> security.
More build-up for the world-wide Electronic Gulag. That's the real reason >>>>> corporations are so crazed about this AI bullshit. I hope Iran knocks some
more server farms while they're at it.
I don't believe that Iran will be doing much more damage going forward. >>>> As much as the media wants us to believe that the US and Israel are
failing miserably over there, there is no substance whatsoever to their >>>> claims.
I think you're mistaken here. I've seen the satellite images. There's
basically no radars or working U.S. bases left in the Gulf (or even Jordan).
And now they're hitting Israel after yet another "decapitation" murder by >>> the genocidal Zionists. I know the Strait of Hormuz is still closed (to all >>> but the Chinese, it seems). Meanwhile the U.S. is keeping their battle ships
far out of range, while Trump (who claims the Iranians are decimated) is >>> whining that no one in NATO will help. (He wants their ships to get blown >>> up.) So which is it? Are the Iranians defeated, or does Trump need the help >>> of the NATO countries (the ones he keeps leveling tariffs on and insulting).
If the war is over, why does NATO matter to him? It doesn't add up.
As I explained to my wife, NATO allies stepping to defend the Strait is
evidence that there is still a point to there even being a NATO. If the
United States is to be tasked with defending the European "allies," they
should at least be willing to help Americans in this one task. If they
are unwilling to do so, NATO might as well cease to exist.
NATO should have been disbanded 35 years ago when the Soviet Union
collapsed.
Iran is hitting more and more of the U.S. owned oil infrastructure in the Gulf. Apparently they hit the Saudi Arabia's Red Sea terminal for their pipeline that was supposed to avoid the trouble in the Persian Gulf. (I pretty much saw that coming.) Gas is now up to $4.09 a gallon where I live (was at $2.69 a gallon when Trump and NutYahoo started this war). This is what you get when you have warmongering moron and a genocidal NutYahoo butt kisser for a president.
Iran has (apparently) hit Saudi Arabia's "alternate route" — an oil pipeline
to the Red Sea at Yanbu. I pretty much figured that would happen. I guess maybe the U.S. and Israel shouldn't have started bombing Iran's oil facilities. What comes around goes around.
Iran is also threatening to cut the underwater Internet cables in the Gulf and the Red Sea. Which would disrupt 17% of worldwide Internet traffic (the Gulf States have huge AI server farms on their territory).
Iran is threatening to cut off underwater Internet cables to the Gulf
states if they continue to host American military forces there.
Cables passing through the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea transmit 17%
of the world's traffic, including to artificial intelligence centers in
the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which could potentially lead to months-long
disruptions in operations.
This war could very well destroy the "West's" economy. Trump was warned
about this but the moron "knew better."
RonB wrote:
chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for >>>> Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more.
System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games & >>>> Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux, >>>> it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating
system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or
security.
How can they possibly prevent Canonical, or anyone else, from offering
downloads without this garbage? They can't.
I hope you're right, but I wouldn't be sure about it.
Worst case, someone will branch it and offer it without the garbage.
Sorry, tyrants, but you can't legislate spyware into Free software.
chrisv wrote:
Worst case, someone will branch it and offer it without the garbage.
Sorry, tyrants, but you can't legislate spyware into Free software.
Well, we also thought they couldn't kill Usenet yet here we are, on a >shrinking forum...
CrudeSausage wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Worst case, someone will branch it and offer it without the garbage.
Sorry, tyrants, but you can't legislate spyware into Free software.
Well, we also thought they couldn't kill Usenet yet here we are, on a
shrinking forum...
No one is killing Usenet. Its decline is organic and not forced.
RonB wrote:
chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for >>>>Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more. >>>>System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games & >>>>Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux, >>>>it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating >>>>system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or >>>>security.
How can they possibly prevent Canonical, or anyone else, from offering
downloads without this garbage? They can't.
I hope you're right, but I wouldn't be sure about it.
Worst case, someone will branch it and offer it without the garbage.
Sorry, tyrants, but you can't legislate spyware into Free software.
On 2026-03-19 6:40 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Worst case, someone will branch it and offer it without the garbage.
Sorry, tyrants, but you can't legislate spyware into Free software.
Well, we also thought they couldn't kill Usenet yet here we are, on a
shrinking forum...
No one is killing Usenet. Its decline is organic and not forced.
Well, subscribing to an ISP usually resulted in you getting the settings
for their Usenet server should you care to join. Since a Congressman complained at the turn of the century, ISPs don't even have Usenet
servers anymore.
On 2026-03-19 4:32 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-18 3:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-17 6:10 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for >>>>>>> Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in> >>>>>>>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more. >>>>>>> System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games & >>>>>>> Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux, >>>>>>> it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating >>>>>>> system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or >>>>>>> security.
More build-up for the world-wide Electronic Gulag. That's the real reason
corporations are so crazed about this AI bullshit. I hope Iran knocks some
more server farms while they're at it.
I don't believe that Iran will be doing much more damage going forward. >>>>> As much as the media wants us to believe that the US and Israel are
failing miserably over there, there is no substance whatsoever to their >>>>> claims.
I think you're mistaken here. I've seen the satellite images. There's
basically no radars or working U.S. bases left in the Gulf (or even Jordan).
And now they're hitting Israel after yet another "decapitation" murder by >>>> the genocidal Zionists. I know the Strait of Hormuz is still closed (to all
but the Chinese, it seems). Meanwhile the U.S. is keeping their battle ships
far out of range, while Trump (who claims the Iranians are decimated) is >>>> whining that no one in NATO will help. (He wants their ships to get blown >>>> up.) So which is it? Are the Iranians defeated, or does Trump need the help
of the NATO countries (the ones he keeps leveling tariffs on and insulting).
If the war is over, why does NATO matter to him? It doesn't add up.
As I explained to my wife, NATO allies stepping to defend the Strait is
evidence that there is still a point to there even being a NATO. If the
United States is to be tasked with defending the European "allies," they >>> should at least be willing to help Americans in this one task. If they
are unwilling to do so, NATO might as well cease to exist.
NATO should have been disbanded 35 years ago when the Soviet Union
collapsed.
I could understand that they wanted it to stick around for a little bit, just to see if the Communist garbage was going to re-emerge. However, considering how little the "allies" actually invested in it, the
American governments should have been in a hurry to disband it.
Iran is hitting more and more of the U.S. owned oil infrastructure in the
Gulf. Apparently they hit the Saudi Arabia's Red Sea terminal for their
pipeline that was supposed to avoid the trouble in the Persian Gulf. (I
pretty much saw that coming.) Gas is now up to $4.09 a gallon where I live >> (was at $2.69 a gallon when Trump and NutYahoo started this war). This is
what you get when you have warmongering moron and a genocidal NutYahoo butt >> kisser for a president.
Iran has (apparently) hit Saudi Arabia's "alternate route" — an oil pipeline
to the Red Sea at Yanbu. I pretty much figured that would happen. I guess
maybe the U.S. and Israel shouldn't have started bombing Iran's oil
facilities. What comes around goes around.
Iran is also threatening to cut the underwater Internet cables in the Gulf >> and the Red Sea. Which would disrupt 17% of worldwide Internet traffic (the >> Gulf States have huge AI server farms on their territory).
Iran is threatening to cut off underwater Internet cables to the Gulf
states if they continue to host American military forces there.
Cables passing through the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea transmit 17% >> of the world's traffic, including to artificial intelligence centers in >> the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which could potentially lead to months-long
disruptions in operations.
This war could very well destroy the "West's" economy. Trump was warned
about this but the moron "knew better."
Honestly, what this war _should_ do is encourage North Americans to
demand that the oil supplies of our continent actually deliver the
product. There is no excuse for Canada capping Alberta in the knees and preventing them from transporting their oil to the East coast, and there
is no reason for anyone to buy from the Middle East when there is oil
near us in Venezuela either. Either way, I know that Iran was indeed a serious threat and since I know that Islam and their terror is a genuine problem in the West, I am happy to see the Americans and Israel
decimating their sponsors. I can spend another few bucks on gas if I
know that the muhammedans and their awful religion loses influence.
chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Worst case, someone will branch it and offer it without the garbage.
Sorry, tyrants, but you can't legislate spyware into Free software.
Well, we also thought they couldn't kill Usenet yet here we are, on a
shrinking forum...
No one is killing Usenet. Its decline is organic and not forced.
Well, subscribing to an ISP usually resulted in you getting the settings
for their Usenet server should you care to join. Since a Congressman >complained at the turn of the century, ISPs don't even have Usenet
servers anymore.
On 2026-03-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-19 4:32 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-18 3:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-17 6:10 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for >>>>>>>> Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in> >>>>>>>>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more. >>>>>>>> System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games &
Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux, >>>>>>>> it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating >>>>>>>> system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or >>>>>>>> security.
More build-up for the world-wide Electronic Gulag. That's the real reason
corporations are so crazed about this AI bullshit. I hope Iran knocks some
more server farms while they're at it.
I don't believe that Iran will be doing much more damage going forward. >>>>>> As much as the media wants us to believe that the US and Israel are >>>>>> failing miserably over there, there is no substance whatsoever to their >>>>>> claims.
I think you're mistaken here. I've seen the satellite images. There's >>>>> basically no radars or working U.S. bases left in the Gulf (or even Jordan).
And now they're hitting Israel after yet another "decapitation" murder by >>>>> the genocidal Zionists. I know the Strait of Hormuz is still closed (to all
but the Chinese, it seems). Meanwhile the U.S. is keeping their battle ships
far out of range, while Trump (who claims the Iranians are decimated) is >>>>> whining that no one in NATO will help. (He wants their ships to get blown >>>>> up.) So which is it? Are the Iranians defeated, or does Trump need the help
of the NATO countries (the ones he keeps leveling tariffs on and insulting).
If the war is over, why does NATO matter to him? It doesn't add up.
As I explained to my wife, NATO allies stepping to defend the Strait is >>>> evidence that there is still a point to there even being a NATO. If the >>>> United States is to be tasked with defending the European "allies," they >>>> should at least be willing to help Americans in this one task. If they >>>> are unwilling to do so, NATO might as well cease to exist.
NATO should have been disbanded 35 years ago when the Soviet Union
collapsed.
I could understand that they wanted it to stick around for a little bit,
just to see if the Communist garbage was going to re-emerge. However,
considering how little the "allies" actually invested in it, the
American governments should have been in a hurry to disband it.
Iran is hitting more and more of the U.S. owned oil infrastructure in the >>> Gulf. Apparently they hit the Saudi Arabia's Red Sea terminal for their
pipeline that was supposed to avoid the trouble in the Persian Gulf. (I
pretty much saw that coming.) Gas is now up to $4.09 a gallon where I live >>> (was at $2.69 a gallon when Trump and NutYahoo started this war). This is >>> what you get when you have warmongering moron and a genocidal NutYahoo butt >>> kisser for a president.
Iran has (apparently) hit Saudi Arabia's "alternate route" — an oil pipeline
to the Red Sea at Yanbu. I pretty much figured that would happen. I guess >>> maybe the U.S. and Israel shouldn't have started bombing Iran's oil
facilities. What comes around goes around.
Iran is also threatening to cut the underwater Internet cables in the Gulf >>> and the Red Sea. Which would disrupt 17% of worldwide Internet traffic (the >>> Gulf States have huge AI server farms on their territory).
Iran is threatening to cut off underwater Internet cables to the Gulf >>> states if they continue to host American military forces there.
Cables passing through the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea transmit 17%
of the world's traffic, including to artificial intelligence centers in >>> the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which could potentially lead to months-long >>> disruptions in operations.
This war could very well destroy the "West's" economy. Trump was warned
about this but the moron "knew better."
Honestly, what this war _should_ do is encourage North Americans to
demand that the oil supplies of our continent actually deliver the
product. There is no excuse for Canada capping Alberta in the knees and
preventing them from transporting their oil to the East coast, and there
is no reason for anyone to buy from the Middle East when there is oil
near us in Venezuela either. Either way, I know that Iran was indeed a
serious threat and since I know that Islam and their terror is a genuine
problem in the West, I am happy to see the Americans and Israel
decimating their sponsors. I can spend another few bucks on gas if I
know that the muhammedans and their awful religion loses influence.
In what way, specifically, was Iran a "serious threat" to the West? The only thing it was a serious threat to was genocidal NutYahoo's "Greater Israel." Israel and the United States are the ones who started this war (and the one in June, 2025) not Iran.
On 2026-03-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-19 6:40 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Worst case, someone will branch it and offer it without the garbage. >>>>>
Sorry, tyrants, but you can't legislate spyware into Free software.
Well, we also thought they couldn't kill Usenet yet here we are, on a
shrinking forum...
No one is killing Usenet. Its decline is organic and not forced.
Well, subscribing to an ISP usually resulted in you getting the settings
for their Usenet server should you care to join. Since a Congressman
complained at the turn of the century, ISPs don't even have Usenet
servers anymore.
That's true, but that was basically ended about twenty years ago.
On 2026-03-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-19 6:40 p.m., chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Worst case, someone will branch it and offer it without the garbage. >>>>>
Sorry, tyrants, but you can't legislate spyware into Free software.
Well, we also thought they couldn't kill Usenet yet here we are, on a
shrinking forum...
No one is killing Usenet. Its decline is organic and not forced.
Well, subscribing to an ISP usually resulted in you getting the settings
for their Usenet server should you care to join. Since a Congressman
complained at the turn of the century, ISPs don't even have Usenet
servers anymore.
That's true, but that was basically ended about twenty years ago.
On 2026-03-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-19 4:32 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-18 3:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-17 6:10 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for >>>>>>>> Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in> >>>>>>>>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more. >>>>>>>> System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games &
Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux, >>>>>>>> it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating >>>>>>>> system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or >>>>>>>> security.
More build-up for the world-wide Electronic Gulag. That's the real reason
corporations are so crazed about this AI bullshit. I hope Iran knocks some
more server farms while they're at it.
I don't believe that Iran will be doing much more damage going forward. >>>>>> As much as the media wants us to believe that the US and Israel are >>>>>> failing miserably over there, there is no substance whatsoever to their >>>>>> claims.
I think you're mistaken here. I've seen the satellite images. There's >>>>> basically no radars or working U.S. bases left in the Gulf (or even Jordan).
And now they're hitting Israel after yet another "decapitation" murder by >>>>> the genocidal Zionists. I know the Strait of Hormuz is still closed (to all
but the Chinese, it seems). Meanwhile the U.S. is keeping their battle ships
far out of range, while Trump (who claims the Iranians are decimated) is >>>>> whining that no one in NATO will help. (He wants their ships to get blown >>>>> up.) So which is it? Are the Iranians defeated, or does Trump need the help
of the NATO countries (the ones he keeps leveling tariffs on and insulting).
If the war is over, why does NATO matter to him? It doesn't add up.
As I explained to my wife, NATO allies stepping to defend the Strait is >>>> evidence that there is still a point to there even being a NATO. If the >>>> United States is to be tasked with defending the European "allies," they >>>> should at least be willing to help Americans in this one task. If they >>>> are unwilling to do so, NATO might as well cease to exist.
NATO should have been disbanded 35 years ago when the Soviet Union
collapsed.
I could understand that they wanted it to stick around for a little bit,
just to see if the Communist garbage was going to re-emerge. However,
considering how little the "allies" actually invested in it, the
American governments should have been in a hurry to disband it.
Iran is hitting more and more of the U.S. owned oil infrastructure in the >>> Gulf. Apparently they hit the Saudi Arabia's Red Sea terminal for their
pipeline that was supposed to avoid the trouble in the Persian Gulf. (I
pretty much saw that coming.) Gas is now up to $4.09 a gallon where I live >>> (was at $2.69 a gallon when Trump and NutYahoo started this war). This is >>> what you get when you have warmongering moron and a genocidal NutYahoo butt >>> kisser for a president.
Iran has (apparently) hit Saudi Arabia's "alternate route" — an oil pipeline
to the Red Sea at Yanbu. I pretty much figured that would happen. I guess >>> maybe the U.S. and Israel shouldn't have started bombing Iran's oil
facilities. What comes around goes around.
Iran is also threatening to cut the underwater Internet cables in the Gulf >>> and the Red Sea. Which would disrupt 17% of worldwide Internet traffic (the >>> Gulf States have huge AI server farms on their territory).
Iran is threatening to cut off underwater Internet cables to the Gulf >>> states if they continue to host American military forces there.
Cables passing through the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea transmit 17%
of the world's traffic, including to artificial intelligence centers in
the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which could potentially lead to months-long >>> disruptions in operations.
This war could very well destroy the "West's" economy. Trump was warned
about this but the moron "knew better."
Honestly, what this war _should_ do is encourage North Americans to
demand that the oil supplies of our continent actually deliver the
product. There is no excuse for Canada capping Alberta in the knees and
preventing them from transporting their oil to the East coast, and there
is no reason for anyone to buy from the Middle East when there is oil
near us in Venezuela either. Either way, I know that Iran was indeed a
serious threat and since I know that Islam and their terror is a genuine
problem in the West, I am happy to see the Americans and Israel
decimating their sponsors. I can spend another few bucks on gas if I
know that the muhammedans and their awful religion loses influence.
In what way, specifically, was Iran a "serious threat" to the West?
The only
thing it was a serious threat to was genocidal NutYahoo's "Greater Israel." Israel and the United States are the ones who started this war (and the one in June, 2025) not Iran.
CrudeSausage wrote:
chrisv wrote:
CrudeSausage wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Worst case, someone will branch it and offer it without the garbage. >>>>>
Sorry, tyrants, but you can't legislate spyware into Free software.
Well, we also thought they couldn't kill Usenet yet here we are, on a
shrinking forum...
No one is killing Usenet. Its decline is organic and not forced.
Well, subscribing to an ISP usually resulted in you getting the settings
for their Usenet server should you care to join. Since a Congressman
complained at the turn of the century, ISPs don't even have Usenet
servers anymore.
You have a cite about this "congressman who complained" causing ISP's
to drop Usenet?
I didn't save bookmarks back then in the hope that I may use them for conversations twenty-five years later. However, it might be
misremembering as to whether a Congressman actually complained or
whether a colleague of mine told me that they did. Either way, as I do a search now, it appears that a lot of companies retired their Usenet
server not because of laws, but because it cost them too much in
bandwidth and storage, especially with all the illegal content being
shared.
On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 09:03:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
I didn't save bookmarks back then in the hope that I may use them for
conversations twenty-five years later. However, it might be
misremembering as to whether a Congressman actually complained or
whether a colleague of mine told me that they did. Either way, as I do a
search now, it appears that a lot of companies retired their Usenet
server not because of laws, but because it cost them too much in
bandwidth and storage, especially with all the illegal content being
shared.
That was the case with my ISP. It takes a lot of terabytes to host a
usenet node and the perceived value wasn't there as people moved to the
newer online communities. There isn't a good way to monetize usenet. When individual.net went from free to 10 Euros a year it seemed more like a
token charge. The site doesn't do binaries which helps. I'm not sure what I'll do when they drop it next year.
On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 09:03:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
I didn't save bookmarks back then in the hope that I may use them for
conversations twenty-five years later. However, it might be
misremembering as to whether a Congressman actually complained or
whether a colleague of mine told me that they did. Either way, as I do a
search now, it appears that a lot of companies retired their Usenet
server not because of laws, but because it cost them too much in
bandwidth and storage, especially with all the illegal content being
shared.
That was the case with my ISP. It takes a lot of terabytes to host a
usenet node and the perceived value wasn't there as people moved to the
newer online communities. There isn't a good way to monetize usenet. When individual.net went from free to 10 Euros a year it seemed more like a
token charge. The site doesn't do binaries which helps. I'm not sure what I'll do when they drop it next year.
On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 09:03:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
I didn't save bookmarks back then in the hope that I may use them for
conversations twenty-five years later. However, it might be
misremembering as to whether a Congressman actually complained or
whether a colleague of mine told me that they did. Either way, as I do a
search now, it appears that a lot of companies retired their Usenet
server not because of laws, but because it cost them too much in
bandwidth and storage, especially with all the illegal content being
shared.
That was the case with my ISP. It takes a lot of terabytes to host a
usenet node and the perceived value wasn't there as people moved to the newer online communities. There isn't a good way to monetize usenet. When individual.net went from free to 10 Euros a year it seemed more like a
token charge. The site doesn't do binaries which helps. I'm not sure what I'll do when they drop it next year.
On 2026-03-20 1:04 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-19 4:32 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-18 3:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:As I explained to my wife, NATO allies stepping to defend the Strait is >>>>> evidence that there is still a point to there even being a NATO. If the >>>>> United States is to be tasked with defending the European "allies," they >>>>> should at least be willing to help Americans in this one task. If they >>>>> are unwilling to do so, NATO might as well cease to exist.
On 2026-03-17 6:10 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for
Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in> >>>>>>>>>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more. >>>>>>>>> System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games &
Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux,
it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating >>>>>>>>> system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or >>>>>>>>> security.
More build-up for the world-wide Electronic Gulag. That's the real reason
corporations are so crazed about this AI bullshit. I hope Iran knocks some
more server farms while they're at it.
I don't believe that Iran will be doing much more damage going forward. >>>>>>> As much as the media wants us to believe that the US and Israel are >>>>>>> failing miserably over there, there is no substance whatsoever to their >>>>>>> claims.
I think you're mistaken here. I've seen the satellite images. There's >>>>>> basically no radars or working U.S. bases left in the Gulf (or even Jordan).
And now they're hitting Israel after yet another "decapitation" murder by
the genocidal Zionists. I know the Strait of Hormuz is still closed (to all
but the Chinese, it seems). Meanwhile the U.S. is keeping their battle ships
far out of range, while Trump (who claims the Iranians are decimated) is >>>>>> whining that no one in NATO will help. (He wants their ships to get blown
up.) So which is it? Are the Iranians defeated, or does Trump need the help
of the NATO countries (the ones he keeps leveling tariffs on and insulting).
If the war is over, why does NATO matter to him? It doesn't add up. >>>>>
NATO should have been disbanded 35 years ago when the Soviet Union
collapsed.
I could understand that they wanted it to stick around for a little bit, >>> just to see if the Communist garbage was going to re-emerge. However,
considering how little the "allies" actually invested in it, the
American governments should have been in a hurry to disband it.
Iran is hitting more and more of the U.S. owned oil infrastructure in the >>>> Gulf. Apparently they hit the Saudi Arabia's Red Sea terminal for their >>>> pipeline that was supposed to avoid the trouble in the Persian Gulf. (I >>>> pretty much saw that coming.) Gas is now up to $4.09 a gallon where I live >>>> (was at $2.69 a gallon when Trump and NutYahoo started this war). This is >>>> what you get when you have warmongering moron and a genocidal NutYahoo butt
kisser for a president.
Iran has (apparently) hit Saudi Arabia's "alternate route" — an oil pipeline
to the Red Sea at Yanbu. I pretty much figured that would happen. I guess >>>> maybe the U.S. and Israel shouldn't have started bombing Iran's oil
facilities. What comes around goes around.
Iran is also threatening to cut the underwater Internet cables in the Gulf >>>> and the Red Sea. Which would disrupt 17% of worldwide Internet traffic (the
Gulf States have huge AI server farms on their territory).
Iran is threatening to cut off underwater Internet cables to the Gulf >>>> states if they continue to host American military forces there.
Cables passing through the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea transmit 17%
of the world's traffic, including to artificial intelligence centers in
the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which could potentially lead to months-long >>>> disruptions in operations.
This war could very well destroy the "West's" economy. Trump was warned >>>> about this but the moron "knew better."
Honestly, what this war _should_ do is encourage North Americans to
demand that the oil supplies of our continent actually deliver the
product. There is no excuse for Canada capping Alberta in the knees and
preventing them from transporting their oil to the East coast, and there >>> is no reason for anyone to buy from the Middle East when there is oil
near us in Venezuela either. Either way, I know that Iran was indeed a
serious threat and since I know that Islam and their terror is a genuine >>> problem in the West, I am happy to see the Americans and Israel
decimating their sponsors. I can spend another few bucks on gas if I
know that the muhammedans and their awful religion loses influence.
In what way, specifically, was Iran a "serious threat" to the West?
They sponsored the terrorist groups in Gaza and Lebanon in particular
which enforced Islamic values in the country and caused anyone with
common sense to escape the country. This wouldn't be a significant issue
if Islamists didn't integrate the ranks of the people with common sense
to flood the West with like-minded barbarians who want to take over our society and enact Sharia law. Similarly, the West was still in a
position that if Iran threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, it could retaliate and put the country in its place. Had they been allowed to continue stockpiling weapons and working towards the nukes as they
provably were (they had enriched the uranium to 60%
<https://armscontrolcenter.org/irans-stockpile-of-highly-enriched-uranium-worth-bargaining-for/>),
they would have eventually been in a position where they could do
whatever they wish around there and the West would have had no way of retaliating.
I will say this once again: America and Israel are not the bad guys here.
The only
thing it was a serious threat to was genocidal NutYahoo's "Greater Israel." >> Israel and the United States are the ones who started this war (and the one >> in June, 2025) not Iran.
I applaud them for starting the war before it would have turned into something much worse for us to deal with. The same way that Islam is a poison, Iran is a snake.
On 2026-03-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-20 1:04 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-19 4:32 a.m., RonB wrote:
Iran is hitting more and more of the U.S. owned oil infrastructure in the >>>>> Gulf. Apparently they hit the Saudi Arabia's Red Sea terminal for their >>>>> pipeline that was supposed to avoid the trouble in the Persian Gulf. (I >>>>> pretty much saw that coming.) Gas is now up to $4.09 a gallon where I live
(was at $2.69 a gallon when Trump and NutYahoo started this war). This is >>>>> what you get when you have warmongering moron and a genocidal NutYahoo butt
kisser for a president.
Iran has (apparently) hit Saudi Arabia's "alternate route" — an oil pipeline
to the Red Sea at Yanbu. I pretty much figured that would happen. I guess >>>>> maybe the U.S. and Israel shouldn't have started bombing Iran's oil
facilities. What comes around goes around.
Iran is also threatening to cut the underwater Internet cables in the Gulf
and the Red Sea. Which would disrupt 17% of worldwide Internet traffic (the
Gulf States have huge AI server farms on their territory).
Iran is threatening to cut off underwater Internet cables to the Gulf
states if they continue to host American military forces there. >>>>>
Cables passing through the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea transmit 17%
of the world's traffic, including to artificial intelligence centers in
the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which could potentially lead to months-long
disruptions in operations.
This war could very well destroy the "West's" economy. Trump was warned >>>>> about this but the moron "knew better."
Honestly, what this war _should_ do is encourage North Americans to
demand that the oil supplies of our continent actually deliver the
product. There is no excuse for Canada capping Alberta in the knees and >>>> preventing them from transporting their oil to the East coast, and there >>>> is no reason for anyone to buy from the Middle East when there is oil
near us in Venezuela either. Either way, I know that Iran was indeed a >>>> serious threat and since I know that Islam and their terror is a genuine >>>> problem in the West, I am happy to see the Americans and Israel
decimating their sponsors. I can spend another few bucks on gas if I
know that the muhammedans and their awful religion loses influence.
In what way, specifically, was Iran a "serious threat" to the West?
They sponsored the terrorist groups in Gaza and Lebanon in particular
which enforced Islamic values in the country and caused anyone with
common sense to escape the country. This wouldn't be a significant issue
if Islamists didn't integrate the ranks of the people with common sense
to flood the West with like-minded barbarians who want to take over our
society and enact Sharia law. Similarly, the West was still in a
position that if Iran threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, it could
retaliate and put the country in its place. Had they been allowed to
continue stockpiling weapons and working towards the nukes as they
provably were (they had enriched the uranium to 60%
<https://armscontrolcenter.org/irans-stockpile-of-highly-enriched-uranium-worth-bargaining-for/>),
they would have eventually been in a position where they could do
whatever they wish around there and the West would have had no way of
retaliating.
Gaza and Lebanon are not the "West." We sponsor the worst terrorist group in the world, the genocidal Israelis. Who's land is being taken on the West Bank, Gaza and in Syria and Lebanon? It's definitely not Israeli land that's being stolen.
You talk about Sharia law, but totally ignore the Jews referring to non-Jews as "goyim," (cattle). Their Talmud teaches that land owned by the goyim can be taken at any time. It's considered "unoccupied land" because no "people" live there. The Jews teach that they are "exceptional" the "chosen" people. Really the *only* people. All others are animals. That's why they have no problem murdering women and children when they "mow the grass" in Gaza. NutYahoo refers to the Gazans as "Amaleks" the tribe God told true
(Biblical) Israel to wipe out — every man, woman and child. They apply this bullshit to the Gazans. And AIPAC (Rothschilds) in the U.S. gives cover for these genocidal thugs.
So, no, I'm not in favor of Sharia law, but more harm to "West" is done to
us because of the Rothschild control of our countries. And our support for the Israeli genocidal thugs means our government(s) is (are) also genocidal.
As for immigration to Western countries, blame the U.S. and Israel for destroying Middle East governments and sewing chaos to weaken their opponents. Also blame the Western countries for allowing this immigration because the Rothschilds (via Soros and his displacement actions) want to
wipe out the white race.
I will say this once again: America and Israel are not the bad guys here.
I will say again, Israel is a genocidal thug country and the U.S. is guilty of genocide because our Rothschild controlled government supports genocidal Israel. It's insanity.
The only
thing it was a serious threat to was genocidal NutYahoo's "Greater Israel." >>> Israel and the United States are the ones who started this war (and the one >>> in June, 2025) not Iran.
I applaud them for starting the war before it would have turned into
something much worse for us to deal with. The same way that Islam is a
poison, Iran is a snake.
What was going to to "turn into something much worse?" Sorry, but you're gullible to believe the genocidal NutYahoo and his warmongering moron and butt leach, Trump. NutYahoo dreams of "Greater Israel," and he can only have it after destroying all other countries in the Middle East. And we, in the Rothschild controlled "West," are empowering this genocidal maniac in his drive to steal "the lands of the goyim."
Don't be gullible about Israel's motives just because your government is allowing the Muslim (mostly Arab, not Persian) immigrants to run roughshod
in your country. That's the result of another Rothschild (Jewish) pogrom — the planned destruction of the white race.
On 2026-03-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-20 1:04 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-19 4:32 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-18 3:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:As I explained to my wife, NATO allies stepping to defend the Strait is >>>>>> evidence that there is still a point to there even being a NATO. If the >>>>>> United States is to be tasked with defending the European "allies," they >>>>>> should at least be willing to help Americans in this one task. If they >>>>>> are unwilling to do so, NATO might as well cease to exist.
On 2026-03-17 6:10 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for
Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in> >>>>>>>>>>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more. >>>>>>>>>> System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games &
Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux,
it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating >>>>>>>>>> system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or >>>>>>>>>> security.
More build-up for the world-wide Electronic Gulag. That's the real reason
corporations are so crazed about this AI bullshit. I hope Iran knocks some
more server farms while they're at it.
I don't believe that Iran will be doing much more damage going forward.
As much as the media wants us to believe that the US and Israel are >>>>>>>> failing miserably over there, there is no substance whatsoever to their
claims.
I think you're mistaken here. I've seen the satellite images. There's >>>>>>> basically no radars or working U.S. bases left in the Gulf (or even Jordan).
And now they're hitting Israel after yet another "decapitation" murder by
the genocidal Zionists. I know the Strait of Hormuz is still closed (to all
but the Chinese, it seems). Meanwhile the U.S. is keeping their battle ships
far out of range, while Trump (who claims the Iranians are decimated) is
whining that no one in NATO will help. (He wants their ships to get blown
up.) So which is it? Are the Iranians defeated, or does Trump need the help
of the NATO countries (the ones he keeps leveling tariffs on and insulting).
If the war is over, why does NATO matter to him? It doesn't add up. >>>>>>
NATO should have been disbanded 35 years ago when the Soviet Union
collapsed.
I could understand that they wanted it to stick around for a little bit, >>>> just to see if the Communist garbage was going to re-emerge. However,
considering how little the "allies" actually invested in it, the
American governments should have been in a hurry to disband it.
Iran is hitting more and more of the U.S. owned oil infrastructure in the >>>>> Gulf. Apparently they hit the Saudi Arabia's Red Sea terminal for their >>>>> pipeline that was supposed to avoid the trouble in the Persian Gulf. (I >>>>> pretty much saw that coming.) Gas is now up to $4.09 a gallon where I live
(was at $2.69 a gallon when Trump and NutYahoo started this war). This is >>>>> what you get when you have warmongering moron and a genocidal NutYahoo butt
kisser for a president.
Iran has (apparently) hit Saudi Arabia's "alternate route" — an oil pipeline
to the Red Sea at Yanbu. I pretty much figured that would happen. I guess >>>>> maybe the U.S. and Israel shouldn't have started bombing Iran's oil
facilities. What comes around goes around.
Iran is also threatening to cut the underwater Internet cables in the Gulf
and the Red Sea. Which would disrupt 17% of worldwide Internet traffic (the
Gulf States have huge AI server farms on their territory).
Iran is threatening to cut off underwater Internet cables to the Gulf
states if they continue to host American military forces there. >>>>>
Cables passing through the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea transmit 17%
of the world's traffic, including to artificial intelligence centers in
the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which could potentially lead to months-long
disruptions in operations.
This war could very well destroy the "West's" economy. Trump was warned >>>>> about this but the moron "knew better."
Honestly, what this war _should_ do is encourage North Americans to
demand that the oil supplies of our continent actually deliver the
product. There is no excuse for Canada capping Alberta in the knees and >>>> preventing them from transporting their oil to the East coast, and there >>>> is no reason for anyone to buy from the Middle East when there is oil
near us in Venezuela either. Either way, I know that Iran was indeed a >>>> serious threat and since I know that Islam and their terror is a genuine >>>> problem in the West, I am happy to see the Americans and Israel
decimating their sponsors. I can spend another few bucks on gas if I
know that the muhammedans and their awful religion loses influence.
In what way, specifically, was Iran a "serious threat" to the West?
They sponsored the terrorist groups in Gaza and Lebanon in particular
which enforced Islamic values in the country and caused anyone with
common sense to escape the country. This wouldn't be a significant issue
if Islamists didn't integrate the ranks of the people with common sense
to flood the West with like-minded barbarians who want to take over our
society and enact Sharia law. Similarly, the West was still in a
position that if Iran threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, it could
retaliate and put the country in its place. Had they been allowed to
continue stockpiling weapons and working towards the nukes as they
provably were (they had enriched the uranium to 60% >><https://armscontrolcenter.org/irans-stockpile-of-highly-enriched-uranium-worth-bargaining-for/>),
they would have eventually been in a position where they could do
whatever they wish around there and the West would have had no way of
retaliating.
Gaza and Lebanon are not the "West." We sponsor the worst terrorist group in the world, the genocidal Israelis. Who's land is being taken on the West Bank, Gaza and in Syria and Lebanon? It's definitely not Israeli land that's being stolen.
You talk about Sharia law, but totally ignore the Jews referring to non-Jews as "goyim," (cattle). Their Talmud teaches that land owned by the goyim can be taken at any time. It's considered "unoccupied land" because no "people" live there. The Jews teach that they are "exceptional" the "chosen" people. Really the *only* people. All others are animals. That's why they have no problem murdering women and children when they "mow the grass" in Gaza. NutYahoo refers to the Gazans as "Amaleks" the tribe God told true (Biblical) Israel to wipe out — every man, woman and child. They apply this
bullshit to the Gazans. And AIPAC (Rothschilds) in the U.S. gives cover for these genocidal thugs.
So, no, I'm not in favor of Sharia law, but more harm to "West" is done to us because of the Rothschild control of our countries. And our support for the Israeli genocidal thugs means our government(s) is (are) also genocidal.
As for immigration to Western countries, blame the U.S. and Israel for destroying Middle East governments and sewing chaos to weaken their opponents. Also blame the Western countries for allowing this immigration because the Rothschilds (via Soros and his displacement actions) want to wipe out the white race.
I will say this once again: America and Israel are not the bad guys here.
I will say again, Israel is a genocidal thug country and the U.S. is guilty of genocide because our Rothschild controlled government supports genocidal Israel. It's insanity.
The only
thing it was a serious threat to was genocidal NutYahoo's "Greater Israel." >>> Israel and the United States are the ones who started this war (and the one >>> in June, 2025) not Iran.
I applaud them for starting the war before it would have turned into
something much worse for us to deal with. The same way that Islam is a
poison, Iran is a snake.
What was going to to "turn into something much worse?" Sorry, but you're gullible to believe the genocidal NutYahoo and his warmongering moron and butt leach, Trump. NutYahoo dreams of "Greater Israel," and he can only have it after destroying all other countries in the Middle East. And we, in the Rothschild controlled "West," are empowering this genocidal maniac in his drive to steal "the lands of the goyim."
Don't be gullible about Israel's motives just because your government is allowing the Muslim (mostly Arab, not Persian) immigrants to run roughshod in your country. That's the result of another Rothschild (Jewish) pogrom — the planned destruction of the white race.
On 2026-03-21, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-20 1:04 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-19 4:32 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-18 3:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:As I explained to my wife, NATO allies stepping to defend the Strait is >>>>>>> evidence that there is still a point to there even being a NATO. If the >>>>>>> United States is to be tasked with defending the European "allies," they
On 2026-03-17 6:10 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for
Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in> >>>>>>>>>>>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more. >>>>>>>>>>> System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games &
Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux,
it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating
system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or
security.
More build-up for the world-wide Electronic Gulag. That's the real reason
corporations are so crazed about this AI bullshit. I hope Iran knocks some
more server farms while they're at it.
I don't believe that Iran will be doing much more damage going forward.
As much as the media wants us to believe that the US and Israel are >>>>>>>>> failing miserably over there, there is no substance whatsoever to their
claims.
I think you're mistaken here. I've seen the satellite images. There's >>>>>>>> basically no radars or working U.S. bases left in the Gulf (or even Jordan).
And now they're hitting Israel after yet another "decapitation" murder by
the genocidal Zionists. I know the Strait of Hormuz is still closed (to all
but the Chinese, it seems). Meanwhile the U.S. is keeping their battle ships
far out of range, while Trump (who claims the Iranians are decimated) is
whining that no one in NATO will help. (He wants their ships to get blown
up.) So which is it? Are the Iranians defeated, or does Trump need the help
of the NATO countries (the ones he keeps leveling tariffs on and insulting).
If the war is over, why does NATO matter to him? It doesn't add up. >>>>>>>
should at least be willing to help Americans in this one task. If they >>>>>>> are unwilling to do so, NATO might as well cease to exist.
NATO should have been disbanded 35 years ago when the Soviet Union >>>>>> collapsed.
I could understand that they wanted it to stick around for a little bit, >>>>> just to see if the Communist garbage was going to re-emerge. However, >>>>> considering how little the "allies" actually invested in it, the
American governments should have been in a hurry to disband it.
Iran is hitting more and more of the U.S. owned oil infrastructure in the
Gulf. Apparently they hit the Saudi Arabia's Red Sea terminal for their >>>>>> pipeline that was supposed to avoid the trouble in the Persian Gulf. (I >>>>>> pretty much saw that coming.) Gas is now up to $4.09 a gallon where I live
(was at $2.69 a gallon when Trump and NutYahoo started this war). This is
what you get when you have warmongering moron and a genocidal NutYahoo butt
kisser for a president.
Iran has (apparently) hit Saudi Arabia's "alternate route" — an oil pipeline
to the Red Sea at Yanbu. I pretty much figured that would happen. I guess
maybe the U.S. and Israel shouldn't have started bombing Iran's oil >>>>>> facilities. What comes around goes around.
Iran is also threatening to cut the underwater Internet cables in the Gulf
and the Red Sea. Which would disrupt 17% of worldwide Internet traffic (the
Gulf States have huge AI server farms on their territory).
Iran is threatening to cut off underwater Internet cables to the Gulf
states if they continue to host American military forces there. >>>>>>
Cables passing through the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea transmit 17%
of the world's traffic, including to artificial intelligence centers in
the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which could potentially lead to months-long
disruptions in operations.
This war could very well destroy the "West's" economy. Trump was warned >>>>>> about this but the moron "knew better."
Honestly, what this war _should_ do is encourage North Americans to
demand that the oil supplies of our continent actually deliver the
product. There is no excuse for Canada capping Alberta in the knees and >>>>> preventing them from transporting their oil to the East coast, and there >>>>> is no reason for anyone to buy from the Middle East when there is oil >>>>> near us in Venezuela either. Either way, I know that Iran was indeed a >>>>> serious threat and since I know that Islam and their terror is a genuine >>>>> problem in the West, I am happy to see the Americans and Israel
decimating their sponsors. I can spend another few bucks on gas if I >>>>> know that the muhammedans and their awful religion loses influence.
In what way, specifically, was Iran a "serious threat" to the West?
They sponsored the terrorist groups in Gaza and Lebanon in particular
which enforced Islamic values in the country and caused anyone with
common sense to escape the country. This wouldn't be a significant issue >>> if Islamists didn't integrate the ranks of the people with common sense >>> to flood the West with like-minded barbarians who want to take over our >>> society and enact Sharia law. Similarly, the West was still in a
position that if Iran threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, it could >>> retaliate and put the country in its place. Had they been allowed to
continue stockpiling weapons and working towards the nukes as they
provably were (they had enriched the uranium to 60% >>><https://armscontrolcenter.org/irans-stockpile-of-highly-enriched-uranium-worth-bargaining-for/>),
they would have eventually been in a position where they could do
whatever they wish around there and the West would have had no way of
retaliating.
Gaza and Lebanon are not the "West." We sponsor the worst terrorist group in
the world, the genocidal Israelis. Who's land is being taken on the West
Bank, Gaza and in Syria and Lebanon? It's definitely not Israeli land that's
being stolen.
Why are you so sure that the land belongs to anyone other than Israel?
Both sides have reasonable arguments as to who owns the land.
What do you base your comments on?
You talk about Sharia law, but totally ignore the Jews referring to non-Jews
as "goyim," (cattle). Their Talmud teaches that land owned by the goyim can >> be taken at any time. It's considered "unoccupied land" because no "people" >> live there. The Jews teach that they are "exceptional" the "chosen" people. >> Really the *only* people. All others are animals. That's why they have no >> problem murdering women and children when they "mow the grass" in Gaza.
NutYahoo refers to the Gazans as "Amaleks" the tribe God told true
(Biblical) Israel to wipe out — every man, woman and child. They apply this
bullshit to the Gazans. And AIPAC (Rothschilds) in the U.S. gives cover for >> these genocidal thugs.
Ok.
So in modern times, where are examples of Jews attacking those unlike them, meaning
Christians etc?
Do you have concrete evidence of Jews invading hostile areas and raping, killing
people, taking hostages and so forth?
Where is the evidence?
It takes about 10 seconds to dig up atrocious crimes of October 7th.
Any equivalent done by Jews?
So, no, I'm not in favor of Sharia law, but more harm to "West" is done to >> us because of the Rothschild control of our countries. And our support for >> the Israeli genocidal thugs means our government(s) is (are) also genocidal.
Yikes!
Let's just say your Rothschild theory is true, they are interested in economic control
and IMHO could care less about Sharia law, Christianity and so forth.
As for immigration to Western countries, blame the U.S. and Israel for
destroying Middle East governments and sewing chaos to weaken their
opponents. Also blame the Western countries for allowing this immigration >> because the Rothschilds (via Soros and his displacement actions) want to
wipe out the white race.
Somewhat true but your origins are suspect.
The elite want to take over the world. They want a 2 class society which means
the ultra wealthy and the rest of this. And additionally they want this to be global.
The entire idea behind globalism is to bring down the powerful countries, like the USA
to the same level as the 3rd world nations so that we are "all the same" and thus
can be controlled and manipulated by the elite.
It's all about money and power.
I will say this once again: America and Israel are not the bad guys here. >>I will say again, Israel is a genocidal thug country and the U.S. is guilty >> of genocide because our Rothschild controlled government supports genocidal >> Israel. It's insanity.
I disagree.
In modern times please list genocidal actions performed by Israel.
Not defense tactics but overt, unprovoked operations.
The only
thing it was a serious threat to was genocidal NutYahoo's "Greater Israel."
Israel and the United States are the ones who started this war (and the one
in June, 2025) not Iran.
I applaud them for starting the war before it would have turned into
something much worse for us to deal with. The same way that Islam is a
poison, Iran is a snake.
What was going to to "turn into something much worse?" Sorry, but you're
gullible to believe the genocidal NutYahoo and his warmongering moron and >> butt leach, Trump. NutYahoo dreams of "Greater Israel," and he can only have
it after destroying all other countries in the Middle East. And we, in the >> Rothschild controlled "West," are empowering this genocidal maniac in his >> drive to steal "the lands of the goyim."
You are way out there with this one Ron.
Both Israel and the Arab countries, under various names, have been battling this since the days of the old testament Bible
IMHO from my limited knowledge, both sides make reasonable arguments.
Don't be gullible about Israel's motives just because your government is
allowing the Muslim (mostly Arab, not Persian) immigrants to run roughshod >> in your country. That's the result of another Rothschild (Jewish) pogrom —
the planned destruction of the white race.
Well of course Israel wants their land to remain theirs as do the Arab countries.
I don't dispute that.
However, from a USA perspective Israel doesn't want those unlike them, that's us,
wiped off the earth.
Israel didn't knock down the twin towers.
Israel isn't trying to attack the usa, look at the last few weeks.
Etc.
Any evidence of Israel plotting bombs, terrorism in the USA?
On 2026-03-21, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-21, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-20, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-20 1:04 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-19, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-19 4:32 a.m., RonB wrote:In what way, specifically, was Iran a "serious threat" to the West?
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-18 3:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-18, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:As I explained to my wife, NATO allies stepping to defend the Strait is
On 2026-03-17 6:10 p.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
Brazil's Age Verification Law is in Effect, Ubuntu Being Monitored for
Compliance
<https://lunduke.substack.com/p/brazils-age-verification-law-is-in>
Brazil monitoring 37 companies, including Canonical, Valve, & more.
System76 bans users for asking about age verification. Rockstar Games &
Arch Linux 32 restrict access in Brazil.
My take: The age of privacy is now effectively over. If you use Linux,
it will be because you truly believe that it is a superior operating
system, not because you believe that it will improve your privacy or
security.
More build-up for the world-wide Electronic Gulag. That's the real reason
corporations are so crazed about this AI bullshit. I hope Iran knocks some
more server farms while they're at it.
I don't believe that Iran will be doing much more damage going forward.
As much as the media wants us to believe that the US and Israel are >>>>>>>>>> failing miserably over there, there is no substance whatsoever to their
claims.
I think you're mistaken here. I've seen the satellite images. There's >>>>>>>>> basically no radars or working U.S. bases left in the Gulf (or even Jordan).
And now they're hitting Israel after yet another "decapitation" murder by
the genocidal Zionists. I know the Strait of Hormuz is still closed (to all
but the Chinese, it seems). Meanwhile the U.S. is keeping their battle ships
far out of range, while Trump (who claims the Iranians are decimated) is
whining that no one in NATO will help. (He wants their ships to get blown
up.) So which is it? Are the Iranians defeated, or does Trump need the help
of the NATO countries (the ones he keeps leveling tariffs on and insulting).
If the war is over, why does NATO matter to him? It doesn't add up. >>>>>>>>
evidence that there is still a point to there even being a NATO. If the
United States is to be tasked with defending the European "allies," they
should at least be willing to help Americans in this one task. If they >>>>>>>> are unwilling to do so, NATO might as well cease to exist.
NATO should have been disbanded 35 years ago when the Soviet Union >>>>>>> collapsed.
I could understand that they wanted it to stick around for a little bit, >>>>>> just to see if the Communist garbage was going to re-emerge. However, >>>>>> considering how little the "allies" actually invested in it, the
American governments should have been in a hurry to disband it.
Iran is hitting more and more of the U.S. owned oil infrastructure in the
Gulf. Apparently they hit the Saudi Arabia's Red Sea terminal for their >>>>>>> pipeline that was supposed to avoid the trouble in the Persian Gulf. (I >>>>>>> pretty much saw that coming.) Gas is now up to $4.09 a gallon where I live
(was at $2.69 a gallon when Trump and NutYahoo started this war). This is
what you get when you have warmongering moron and a genocidal NutYahoo butt
kisser for a president.
Iran has (apparently) hit Saudi Arabia's "alternate route" — an oil pipeline
to the Red Sea at Yanbu. I pretty much figured that would happen. I guess
maybe the U.S. and Israel shouldn't have started bombing Iran's oil >>>>>>> facilities. What comes around goes around.
Iran is also threatening to cut the underwater Internet cables in the Gulf
and the Red Sea. Which would disrupt 17% of worldwide Internet traffic (the
Gulf States have huge AI server farms on their territory).
Iran is threatening to cut off underwater Internet cables to the Gulf
states if they continue to host American military forces there. >>>>>>>
Cables passing through the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea transmit 17%
of the world's traffic, including to artificial intelligence centers in
the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which could potentially lead to months-long
disruptions in operations.
This war could very well destroy the "West's" economy. Trump was warned >>>>>>> about this but the moron "knew better."
Honestly, what this war _should_ do is encourage North Americans to >>>>>> demand that the oil supplies of our continent actually deliver the >>>>>> product. There is no excuse for Canada capping Alberta in the knees and >>>>>> preventing them from transporting their oil to the East coast, and there >>>>>> is no reason for anyone to buy from the Middle East when there is oil >>>>>> near us in Venezuela either. Either way, I know that Iran was indeed a >>>>>> serious threat and since I know that Islam and their terror is a genuine >>>>>> problem in the West, I am happy to see the Americans and Israel
decimating their sponsors. I can spend another few bucks on gas if I >>>>>> know that the muhammedans and their awful religion loses influence. >>>>>
They sponsored the terrorist groups in Gaza and Lebanon in particular >>>> which enforced Islamic values in the country and caused anyone with
common sense to escape the country. This wouldn't be a significant issue >>>> if Islamists didn't integrate the ranks of the people with common sense >>>> to flood the West with like-minded barbarians who want to take over our >>>> society and enact Sharia law. Similarly, the West was still in a
position that if Iran threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, it could >>>> retaliate and put the country in its place. Had they been allowed to
continue stockpiling weapons and working towards the nukes as they
provably were (they had enriched the uranium to 60% >>>><https://armscontrolcenter.org/irans-stockpile-of-highly-enriched-uranium-worth-bargaining-for/>),
they would have eventually been in a position where they could do
whatever they wish around there and the West would have had no way of >>>> retaliating.
Gaza and Lebanon are not the "West." We sponsor the worst terrorist group in
the world, the genocidal Israelis. Who's land is being taken on the West >>> Bank, Gaza and in Syria and Lebanon? It's definitely not Israeli land that's
being stolen.
Why are you so sure that the land belongs to anyone other than Israel?
Both sides have reasonable arguments as to who owns the land.
What do you base your comments on?
What are the "reasonable" arguments for Israel stealing Palestinian land? The
Palestinians (in good faith) took them in during and after World War II, only to have the bastards steal the land from their hosts. Israel is parasite country. Calling modern Israel the Israel of the Bible, doesn't make it so. That Israel ceased to exist in 70 A.D. It's purpose was fulfilled.
You talk about Sharia law, but totally ignore the Jews referring to non-Jews
as "goyim," (cattle). Their Talmud teaches that land owned by the goyim can
be taken at any time. It's considered "unoccupied land" because no "people"
live there. The Jews teach that they are "exceptional" the "chosen" people.
Really the *only* people. All others are animals. That's why they have no >>> problem murdering women and children when they "mow the grass" in Gaza. >>> NutYahoo refers to the Gazans as "Amaleks" the tribe God told true
(Biblical) Israel to wipe out — every man, woman and child. They apply this
bullshit to the Gazans. And AIPAC (Rothschilds) in the U.S. gives cover for
these genocidal thugs.
Ok.
So in modern times, where are examples of Jews attacking those unlike them, meaning
Christians etc?
Gaza. Lebanon. Syria — and, using (mostly) the United States as their proxy,
Iraq and Iran. The Israelis have no problem killing Christian Palestinians and Lebanese as well as Muslims. Every month they steal more land on the West Bank. Thugs from the United States (dual citizens of the U.S. and Israel) go to the West Bank, cut down orchards, kill sheep and burn down Palestinian homes. After all, they're only goyim, aren't they? And this is "unoccupied" land. No "people" live there and own property.
Do you have concrete evidence of Jews invading hostile areas and raping, killing
people, taking hostages and so forth?
Where is the evidence?
Have you been totally ignoring the news of the genocide in Gaza and the theft of land in the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria? You need to widen your scope of reading beyond the MSM (owned and controlled by the Rothschild cabal).
It takes about 10 seconds to dig up atrocious crimes of October 7th.
Compared to sixty years of Israelis "mowing the grass" in the open air gulag of Gaza? How many Israelis died on October 7th (and how many were killed by "friendly" fire)? How many tens of thousands of Gazans have been murdered or starved out by the genocidal thugs in Israel? There's no comparison. You would have to be completely blind not to see the discrepancy. (How many Iranians die each day now in Iran because of U.S. and Israeli carpet bombing of Tehran?) Wake up and smell the reality.
Any equivalent done by Jews?
No, no equivalent. The Israelis are genocidal. The Palestinians are oppressed and have the right to try to break out of their prison and take back the land stolen from them. And Iran has the right to support their cause. Point, blank, period.
Israel claims a combination of their God of the Bible and history proves
it's their land.
Basically they claim to be the indigenous people of the land and for thousands of years.
Various archaeological evidence.
On 2026-03-21, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
What are the "reasonable" arguments for Israel stealing Palestinian land? The
Palestinians (in good faith) took them in during and after World War II,
only to have the bastards steal the land from their hosts. Israel is
parasite country. Calling modern Israel the Israel of the Bible, doesn't
make it so. That Israel ceased to exist in 70 A.D. It's purpose was
fulfilled.
Israel claims a combination of their God of the Bible and history proves it's their land.
Basically they claim to be the indigenous people of the land and for thousands of years.
Various archaeological evidence.
And the Palestinians claim similar reasons although technically they didn't exist as a group
until sometime in the 1960's. However the ancient people of the area, Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians,
and others can be traced to modern day people as well.
And then of course in modern times we have the disaster the UN caused which has resulted
in the political angle being pushed currently.
Gaza. Lebanon. Syria — and, using (mostly) the United States as their proxy,
Iraq and Iran. The Israelis have no problem killing Christian Palestinians >> and Lebanese as well as Muslims. Every month they steal more land on the
West Bank. Thugs from the United States (dual citizens of the U.S. and
Israel) go to the West Bank, cut down orchards, kill sheep and burn down
Palestinian homes. After all, they're only goyim, aren't they? And this is >> "unoccupied" land. No "people" live there and own property.
It's a war.
However, do you have some cites for the above?
Having grown up in NYC where my neighborhood was truly a melting pot
and bordering on an area that was mostly Hasidic Jews (the penguins), there was NEVER a problem. They kept to themselves and followed their religion.
The stores and shops in that area were closed on Saturday and open on Sunday where shops in my area were closed.
These days?
It's a war zone and in the press almost weekly.
Guess why?
I'll give you a hint, it ain't the penguins.
Have you been totally ignoring the news of the genocide in Gaza and the
theft of land in the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria? You need to widen your >> scope of reading beyond the MSM (owned and controlled by the Rothschild
cabal).
You are not offering proof.
I give you Oct 7th.
What do you have?
Compared to sixty years of Israelis "mowing the grass" in the open air gulag
of Gaza? How many Israelis died on October 7th (and how many were killed by >> "friendly" fire)? How many tens of thousands of Gazans have been murdered or
starved out by the genocidal thugs in Israel? There's no comparison. You
would have to be completely blind not to see the discrepancy. (How many
Iranians die each day now in Iran because of U.S. and Israeli carpet bombing
of Tehran?) Wake up and smell the reality.
So where are the cites showing this?
You are going in circles with conspiracy theories.
As for Iran, they killed more than 30,000 of their own people in the past months.
They just had public hangings of 3 people whose only "crime" was peaceful protesting.
And how many Americans and others have they killed since 1979 despite all the attempts
at appeasement ie:pallets of cash?
Any Jews knocking down buildings?
Throwing gays off rooftops?
Beheading people?
Shouting death to Israel and America?
I'm not seeing it.
I am however seeing Islamist's creating havoc all over the world daily.
We recently had 3 or 4 attacks in the USA.
Is it the Jews again?
No, no equivalent. The Israelis are genocidal. The Palestinians are
oppressed and have the right to try to break out of their prison and take >> back the land stolen from them. And Iran has the right to support their
cause. Point, blank, period.
But you still have not proven that the land belongs to them.
As for Iran, I oppose the war however I also have enough common sense
to realize that when a regime like Iran's, who is funding terrorist
proxy groups like Hamas and others and who are on a pilgrimage to wipe
out the USA should not have nuclear weapons.
I snipped the rest because you are wandering all over the place with conspiracy theories, the Rothschild's and so forth.
As for the Congress critters, they are all corrupt. And if they didn't start out corrupt they quickly learned how to play the game.
The place really is a swamp.
Both sides.
At this point, I would like to see the US pull out and let the Iranian
people decide what type of government they want moving forward. I have always been against the US being involved in nation building.
I'm an isolationist in that respect.
WRT to the Palestinian Israel issue a two state solution is my choice.
On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:49:07 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Israel claims a combination of their God of the Bible and history proves
it's their land.
Basically they claim to be the indigenous people of the land and for
thousands of years.
Various archaeological evidence.
There are a lot of people that would like the land their ancestors lived
on 2000 years ago but they are shit out of luck. They don't own most of
the politicians and confused Christians that didn't get the message about
a new covenant.
On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:49:07 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Israel claims a combination of their God of the Bible and history proves
it's their land.
Basically they claim to be the indigenous people of the land and for
thousands of years.
Various archaeological evidence.
There are a lot of people that would like the land their ancestors lived
on 2000 years ago but they are shit out of luck. They don't own most of
the politicians and confused Christians that didn't get the message about
a new covenant.
And speaking of NutYahoo, he recently compared Jesus unfavorably to
Genghis Khan, whom he said (unlike Jesus) "got things done."
(Paraphrased.) It even got some Zionist "Christians" confused and upset.
I didn't think that was possible.
On 2026-03-21, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-21, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
(Lots of snips)
What are the "reasonable" arguments for Israel stealing Palestinian land? The
Palestinians (in good faith) took them in during and after World War II, >>> only to have the bastards steal the land from their hosts. Israel is
parasite country. Calling modern Israel the Israel of the Bible, doesn't >>> make it so. That Israel ceased to exist in 70 A.D. It's purpose was
fulfilled.
Israel claims a combination of their God of the Bible and history proves it's their land.
Basically they claim to be the indigenous people of the land and for thousands of years.
Various archaeological evidence.
What the modern state of Israel claims and what is true are too different things. Until 1948, Israel did not exist since the Romans destroyed the Temple and Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Some Jews lived (in peace) in Palestine as well as Christians and Muslims. But there is no historic claim to Israel for modern (rabbinic) Judaism. Native Americans have a more clear historic claim to the United States, then do modern Jews have claim to Palestine.
I don't know if you believe in the Bible or not. If you do, please show me where God promised the modern nation of Israel the right to Palestine. Do you think the Bible teaches that the Jews are still God's chosen people. If so, where do you find that? In the New Testament, or in the Old? Or anywhere?
And the Palestinians claim similar reasons although technically they didn't exist as a group
until sometime in the 1960's. However the ancient people of the area, Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians,
and others can be traced to modern day people as well.
The main difference is that the Palestinians — Christians, Muslims and Jews
were living peacefully together in Palestine before the Jews decided to steal the land and force the Palestinians into refugee camps. They did this through guile, terrorism and force.
And then of course in modern times we have the disaster the UN caused which has resulted
in the political angle being pushed currently.
Only a disaster because the Jews wouldn't accept that the native Palestinians had a right to their own land, homes and property. Would you quietly go into the night if and Indian tribe showed up at your house, said "this is mine" and used terrorist thugs to force you out of your own home? They would (of course) "generously" offer you a tent in a fenced off "refugee
camp" and tell you that you should be happy you got that. (And then they would take back their word and force you out that camp a few years later, when you started growing orchards and building huts to live in.)
Gaza. Lebanon. Syria — and, using (mostly) the United States as their proxy,
Iraq and Iran. The Israelis have no problem killing Christian Palestinians >>> and Lebanese as well as Muslims. Every month they steal more land on the >>> West Bank. Thugs from the United States (dual citizens of the U.S. and
Israel) go to the West Bank, cut down orchards, kill sheep and burn down >>> Palestinian homes. After all, they're only goyim, aren't they? And this is >>> "unoccupied" land. No "people" live there and own property.
It's a war.
However, do you have some cites for the above?
Having grown up in NYC where my neighborhood was truly a melting pot
and bordering on an area that was mostly Hasidic Jews (the penguins), there >> was NEVER a problem. They kept to themselves and followed their religion.
The stores and shops in that area were closed on Saturday and open on Sunday >> where shops in my area were closed.
Yes, it's a war. Who started it in the 1940s? Who stole homes and property from the people who lived there? Who's committing genocide against those they forced out of their own land and into the open air gulag of Gaza and the refugee camps of the West Bank? I'm not arguing that it's not a war, I'm just trying to figure out why you take the side of the genocidal thugs who STOLE the land in the first place and have been "mowing the grass" (killing men, women and children) for decades? Where's your sense of justice?
As for the Hasidic Jews, they have a huge pedophile problem. Strangely enough, the city of New York let's them take care of it "in house." It's not a far stretch for them, when it's argued in their "sacred" Talmud that raping a child of three years and one day, makes her the wife of the rapist.
These days?
It's a war zone and in the press almost weekly.
Guess why?
I'll give you a hint, it ain't the penguins.
Yeah, their crimes are quiet, covered up and behind the scenes. (I'm not saying all Hasidic Jews, btw.)
Have you been totally ignoring the news of the genocide in Gaza and the >>> theft of land in the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria? You need to widen your >>> scope of reading beyond the MSM (owned and controlled by the Rothschild >>> cabal).
You are not offering proof.
I give you Oct 7th.
What do you have?
You haven't seen pictures of the utterly destroyed Gaza? Really? You haven't read the news of the Israeli government cutting off their utilities, (water and electricity) and blocking food and medicine shipments? You haven't seen pictures of blown up hospitals, churches or the skeletal children, who have nothing to eat and are starving to death?
I congratulate you on your amazing myopia. It must be nice to live in delusional bullshit world, free of all reality.
October 7th doesn't excuse the government of Israel or their Army from war crimes. As mentioned before, collective punishment is a war crime. Genocide is a war crime. NutYahoo has already been found guilty of war crimes in an international court for his actions Gaza. The five Nordic states will not allow him to travel to their countries. Did you also miss that bit of news?
Compared to sixty years of Israelis "mowing the grass" in the open air gulag
of Gaza? How many Israelis died on October 7th (and how many were killed by
"friendly" fire)? How many tens of thousands of Gazans have been murdered or
starved out by the genocidal thugs in Israel? There's no comparison. You >>> would have to be completely blind not to see the discrepancy. (How many >>> Iranians die each day now in Iran because of U.S. and Israeli carpet bombing
of Tehran?) Wake up and smell the reality.
So where are the cites showing this?
You are going in circles with conspiracy theories.
No one is so blind as those who won't see. You really have to work at it, to miss the obvious, don't you?
Here, tell me what you see... Is this a "conspiracy?"
This is what Israel has done to Gaza. It's what they're trying to do Tehran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwQlPm7lCUc
There are thousands upon thousands of these pictures and videos showing this destruction. The only way to avoid the evidence (your so-called "conspiracy") is to be purposely obtuse and force yourself to ignore reality.
As for Iran, they killed more than 30,000 of their own people in the past months.
They just had public hangings of 3 people whose only "crime" was peaceful protesting.
And how many Americans and others have they killed since 1979 despite all the attempts
at appeasement ie:pallets of cash?
So you claim, again, with zero proof. I call your claim bullshit (not your bullshit, but something gullibly believe on faith). It's a lying "conspiracy." Prove me wrong. As you will probably not remember, since you seem adept at ignoring facts, Israel and the United States bragged about how many Starlink receivers they had smuggled into Iran, and how many Mossad agents and their stooges who were part of the coup attempt. They thought they were going to win while they were bragging. Guess what, those traitors and Mossad agents were wiped out. (As they would be in any country.) But you ignore the fact that many Iranian policemen were killed by these terrorists (who happened to be "good" terrorists because they were on our side).
The claim that these "protesters'" (seditionists) "only crime" was protesting
is bullshit. It was an armed attempt to overthrow the government of Iran, which is sedition. Sedition is a capital crime every where. Just reality.
Any Jews knocking down buildings?
Throwing gays off rooftops?
Beheading people?
Shouting death to Israel and America?
I'm not seeing it.
Have you looked at ANY, any pictures at all, of Gaza after Israel's carpet bombing of the city. I can't believe you're so reality challenged that you're even asking this question. Are you in some of cult where they don't allow you to think or observe?
I am however seeing Islamist's creating havoc all over the world daily.
We recently had 3 or 4 attacks in the USA.
Is it the Jews again?
Right. It was the "Islamists" who started these two wars against Iran, not the Israelis or their NutYahoo butt leach, Trump.
"Islamist" covers a lot of territory. The Islamists terrorists are almost always Sunni, not Shia. And yet Trump cuddles up to the terrorist who now claims to be the "president" of Syria. We're "great friends" with the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia (whose public executions are continual). We seem to have blinders on our eyes when talking about the Sunni terrorists, who have committed 82% of all terrorist attacks in three decades (as reported by both the United States and France). Before Trump decided it was time kiss the
ass of the current, head-chopping terrorist president of Syria, he first removed the $10 million dollar bounty on his head for... (you guessed it) terrorism. There is no moral high ground in our country and especially not in genocidal Israel.
On 2026-03-22, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-21, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-21, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
(Lots of snips)
What are the "reasonable" arguments for Israel stealing Palestinian land? The
Palestinians (in good faith) took them in during and after World War II, >>>> only to have the bastards steal the land from their hosts. Israel is
parasite country. Calling modern Israel the Israel of the Bible, doesn't >>>> make it so. That Israel ceased to exist in 70 A.D. It's purpose was
fulfilled.
Israel claims a combination of their God of the Bible and history proves >>> it's their land.
Basically they claim to be the indigenous people of the land and for
thousands of years.
Various archaeological evidence.
What the modern state of Israel claims and what is true are too different
things. Until 1948, Israel did not exist since the Romans destroyed the
Temple and Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Some Jews lived (in peace) in Palestine as >> well as Christians and Muslims. But there is no historic claim to Israel for >> modern (rabbinic) Judaism. Native Americans have a more clear historic claim >> to the United States, then do modern Jews have claim to Palestine.
And this goes back to the beginning of time. Who owned the land from the start
and
why do they , each side, believe it's their land.
Israel as a state was formed in 1948.
Modern Palestine was created when the Brits abandoned the area. so for arguments sake,
within the last 100 years or so.
Prior to that, Palestine was known as the land of Canaan where the Hebrew tribes/kingdoms
of Judah and what became modern day Israel existed.
Historically speaking, the ancient Israelites established kingdoms in that land way back
in the BC era which was way ahead of the Palestinians which although did have a presence
in the same area were not recognized as such until the Romans renamed the regine "Palestine"
the early AD time frame.
I don't know if you believe in the Bible or not. If you do, please show me >> where God promised the modern nation of Israel the right to Palestine. Do
you think the Bible teaches that the Jews are still God's chosen people. If >> so, where do you find that? In the New Testament, or in the Old? Or
anywhere?
Dragged to Sunday school for years by my mom I have a decent knowledge of the Bible.
Also, I was the kid who would ask the tough questions like if Adam and Eve had
2 sons,
where did all the other people come from?
Yep.
I actually asked that question among others.
So anyway, you keep tossing in Modern Israel where both the Israelites and Palestinians belief
in land ownership goes way back in time.
Anyway, Look in Genesis where God has a covenant with Abram and where he is specific in defining
the borders of the land as between 2 rivers.
God also tells Joshua that he is giving the same land (Canaan) to the people of Israel as he promised
to their ancestors.
And there are many more verses like that.
I cannot believe I still remember this from my Catechism days.
And the Palestinians claim similar reasons although technically they didn't >>> exist as a group
until sometime in the 1960's. However the ancient people of the area,
Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians,
and others can be traced to modern day people as well.
The main difference is that the Palestinians — Christians, Muslims and Jews
were living peacefully together in Palestine before the Jews decided to
steal the land and force the Palestinians into refugee camps. They did this >> through guile, terrorism and force.
It takes 2 to hora :)
The Jews believe the land is theirs.
The Palestinians believe it belongs to them.
And then of course in modern times we have the disaster the UN caused which >>> has resulted
in the political angle being pushed currently.
Only a disaster because the Jews wouldn't accept that the native
Palestinians had a right to their own land, homes and property. Would you
quietly go into the night if and Indian tribe showed up at your house, said >> "this is mine" and used terrorist thugs to force you out of your own home? >> They would (of course) "generously" offer you a tent in a fenced off "refugee
camp" and tell you that you should be happy you got that. (And then they
would take back their word and force you out that camp a few years later,
when you started growing orchards and building huts to live in.)
Again: The Jews believe the land is theirs.
The Palestinians believe it belongs to them.
Gaza. Lebanon. Syria — and, using (mostly) the United States as their proxy,
Iraq and Iran. The Israelis have no problem killing Christian Palestinians >>>> and Lebanese as well as Muslims. Every month they steal more land on the >>>> West Bank. Thugs from the United States (dual citizens of the U.S. and >>>> Israel) go to the West Bank, cut down orchards, kill sheep and burn down >>>> Palestinian homes. After all, they're only goyim, aren't they? And this is >>>> "unoccupied" land. No "people" live there and own property.
It's a war.
However, do you have some cites for the above?
Having grown up in NYC where my neighborhood was truly a melting pot
and bordering on an area that was mostly Hasidic Jews (the penguins), there >>> was NEVER a problem. They kept to themselves and followed their religion. >>> The stores and shops in that area were closed on Saturday and open on Sunday
where shops in my area were closed.
Yes, it's a war. Who started it in the 1940s? Who stole homes and property >> from the people who lived there? Who's committing genocide against those
they forced out of their own land and into the open air gulag of Gaza and
the refugee camps of the West Bank? I'm not arguing that it's not a war, I'm >> just trying to figure out why you take the side of the genocidal thugs who >> STOLE the land in the first place and have been "mowing the grass" (killing >> men, women and children) for decades? Where's your sense of justice?
Actually it was given to the Jews in 1917 via Balfour and your buddies the Rothschilds.
when the Ottomans abandoned the area, the league of nations granted GB control
in order to
provide, on that land, a Jewish home for lack of a better term.
The Brits made a mess of the place making promises to both sides that they were unable to
keep which started the modern day conflicts.
Jump to 1948 where Israel was formed without any input from the Palestinians which
at the time were the major number of people living there.
This was bad.
And I don't agree with it at all.
As for the Hasidic Jews, they have a huge pedophile problem. Strangely
enough, the city of New York let's them take care of it "in house." It's not >> a far stretch for them, when it's argued in their "sacred" Talmud that
raping a child of three years and one day, makes her the wife of the rapist.
They are also, at least prior to the illegal invasion in NYC one of the top ethnic
groups milking the welfare systems.
They know how to work the system.
I can't argue the pedo point because it seems to be true.
There are many perverse type behaviors being done in the name of religion. Like Rabbis checking young girls panties to see if they were unclean (period).
I don't agree with any of that, but what I am saying is compared to the ethnic
groups moving
into NYC these days, they didn't cause us christians any trouble.
We didn't have to worry about some bomber on a bus blowing us up.
These days?
Read the papers and decide for yourself.
And then of course they have their various sects as well and there were plenty
of
reformed, non ultra religious Jews living there as well and they didn't cause any troubles at all.
These days?
It's a war zone and in the press almost weekly.
Guess why?
I'll give you a hint, it ain't the penguins.
Yeah, their crimes are quiet, covered up and behind the scenes. (I'm not
saying all Hasidic Jews, btw.)
They are "connected" to some degree if you will but they aren't targeting
you and I simply because we are not like them.
That's my point.
But you know full well who is.
A group of people who have no intention of assimilating into the culture but instead
want to force their culture upon the citizens of the countries they invade. It's a fact.
And they do not even deny it.
Have you been totally ignoring the news of the genocide in Gaza and the >>>> theft of land in the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria? You need to widen your >>>> scope of reading beyond the MSM (owned and controlled by the Rothschild >>>> cabal).
You are not offering proof.
I give you Oct 7th.
What do you have?
You haven't seen pictures of the utterly destroyed Gaza? Really? You haven't >> read the news of the Israeli government cutting off their utilities, (water >> and electricity) and blocking food and medicine shipments? You haven't seen >> pictures of blown up hospitals, churches or the skeletal children, who have >> nothing to eat and are starving to death?
Of course I have.
And what and who started this modern day war?
I also see articles where Hamas, sponsored by Iran BTW, are intercepting UN food and
medical supplies thus starving their own people.
Do I agree with Israel turning off water, electricity and such to civilians? Of course not.
I also do not support Hamas hiding in hospitals, Mosques, funeral homes, schools
and so forth where they are using civilians as human shields.
Does Israel do that?
How many Israel suicide bomber attacks can you find compared to Islamic or those supporting Islam?
How many protests turning violent can you find organized by Jews as compared to Islamist's?
How many times have you seen Israel holding hostages, killing some and using them as bargaining chips?
Shooting up concerts?
Attacking military bases here in US?
Knocking down the WTC?
etc.....
I congratulate you on your amazing myopia. It must be nice to live in
delusional bullshit world, free of all reality.
I wouldn't know as I consider all sources including AlJazeera and other Arabic
centered
media.
October 7th doesn't excuse the government of Israel or their Army from war >> crimes. As mentioned before, collective punishment is a war crime. Genocide >> is a war crime. NutYahoo has already been found guilty of war crimes in an >> international court for his actions Gaza. The five Nordic states will not
allow him to travel to their countries. Did you also miss that bit of news?
Both sides have committed war crimes.
So has Russia and Ukraine.
As for the Nordic countries, also known as Quislings, they have a point regarding the food and
electricity being turned off.
I mentioned this above.
I'm part Nordic myself. Do you know what the Scandinavian slang word for traitor is?
It's Quisling.
Compared to sixty years of Israelis "mowing the grass" in the open air gulag
of Gaza? How many Israelis died on October 7th (and how many were killed by
"friendly" fire)? How many tens of thousands of Gazans have been murdered or
starved out by the genocidal thugs in Israel? There's no comparison. You >>>> would have to be completely blind not to see the discrepancy. (How many >>>> Iranians die each day now in Iran because of U.S. and Israeli carpet bombing
of Tehran?) Wake up and smell the reality.
So where are the cites showing this?
You are going in circles with conspiracy theories.
No one is so blind as those who won't see. You really have to work at it, to >> miss the obvious, don't you?
Here, tell me what you see... Is this a "conspiracy?"
This is what Israel has done to Gaza. It's what they're trying to do Tehran. >>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwQlPm7lCUc
Have you seen footage of what Hamas did to families, women, babies on Oct 7th?
As for Gaza, this is war.
It's horrible and IMHO a waste of life.
Have you seen pics of Dresden after WW2?
Looks just like Gaza in your video.
The civilians are always the ones to suffer.
This is one reason why war sux.
As for Iran, you need to do some research. They sponsor terrorism via proxies.
They just revealed that they have miselles capable of traveling much longer distances than first believed.
They admitted to negotiators that they have enough almost fully enriched uranium to build several nuclear bombs.
The Iran Nuclear Deal was a complete farce and Iran was building bombs
as fast as they could.
They have a netork of underground tunnels and have hidden their stockpile very
well.
These are crafty people on a religious mission and nothing will stop them. The US is playing whack a mole here.
Appeasement does not work with fanatics.
Ask Biden and Obama about their pallets of cash given to Iran and how it helped.
Somebody has to do something to at least slow them down because if not they will
be launching nukes at all of their enemies.
They are crazy and don't care if they die for Allah.
There are thousands upon thousands of these pictures and videos showing this >> destruction. The only way to avoid the evidence (your so-called
"conspiracy") is to be purposely obtuse and force yourself to ignore
reality.
I'm referring to your claims of years of mowing the lawn and waging wars. Where is evidence of this?
What you are showing is post Oct 7th.
It's a war and who started the latest version of it?
Where is your evidence that this type of behavior is BAU for Israel? Terrorism is certainly BAU for the Islamist radicals.
As for Iran, they killed more than 30,000 of their own people in the past >>> months.
They just had public hangings of 3 people whose only "crime" was peaceful >>> protesting.
And how many Americans and others have they killed since 1979 despite all >>> the attempts
at appeasement ie:pallets of cash?
So you claim, again, with zero proof. I call your claim bullshit (not your >> bullshit, but something gullibly believe on faith). It's a lying
"conspiracy." Prove me wrong. As you will probably not remember, since you >> seem adept at ignoring facts, Israel and the United States bragged about how >> many Starlink receivers they had smuggled into Iran, and how many Mossad
agents and their stooges who were part of the coup attempt. They thought
they were going to win while they were bragging. Guess what, those traitors >> and Mossad agents were wiped out. (As they would be in any country.) But you >> ignore the fact that many Iranian policemen were killed by these terrorists >> (who happened to be "good" terrorists because they were on our side).
You are all over the place Ron :)
Let's take one at a time.
1. Iran killing their own citizens for protesting.
<https://time.com/7357635/more-than-30000-killed-in-iran-say-senior-officials/>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres>
<https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead>
<https://iranhumanrights.org/2026/03/three-protesters-publicly-hanged-in-iran-dozens-more-at-imminent-risk-of-execution/>
2. Starlink receivers being smuggled into Iran?
Yea. And so what? You do know that Iran cut off the Internet. Why? So that the
regime could censor people
from finding out exactly what was going on there.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Internet_blackout_in_Iran>
And do you really believe that Iran is not cyber attacking Israel, USA etc ? Of course they are trying.
Why does it bother you that the truth about what is really going on in Iran is
allowed
to be told?
The claim that these "protesters'" (seditionists) "only crime" was protesting
is bullshit. It was an armed attempt to overthrow the government of Iran,
which is sedition. Sedition is a capital crime every where. Just reality.
And the protests supporting Palestine here in the USA are being funded and organized
by professional protesters.
Your point?
Sure sedition may be a crime but if the majority of the people don't like the current
regime it's up to them to change it.
Welcome to the US Revolutionary war.
And BTW, I really doubt that 30,000 people were ALL dangerous seditionist's. You have zero proof of that.
Any Jews knocking down buildings?
Throwing gays off rooftops?
Beheading people?
Shouting death to Israel and America?
I'm not seeing it.
Have you looked at ANY, any pictures at all, of Gaza after Israel's carpet >> bombing of the city. I can't believe you're so reality challenged that
you're even asking this question. Are you in some of cult where they don't >> allow you to think or observe?
After October 7th.
And who started that again?
I am however seeing Islamist's creating havoc all over the world daily.
We recently had 3 or 4 attacks in the USA.
Is it the Jews again?
Right. It was the "Islamists" who started these two wars against Iran, not >> the Israelis or their NutYahoo butt leach, Trump.
Again you are all over the place.
You point to evidence regarding Gaza destruction and then morph into Iran.
Someone had to stop Iran from their evil.
Have you noticed that the other Arab states are being attacked by Iran?
Have you noticed that those states are aligning with the US and Israel?
Why do you think that is?
Maybe they know something you don't.
Ya think?
"Islamist" covers a lot of territory. The Islamists terrorists are almost
always Sunni, not Shia. And yet Trump cuddles up to the terrorist who now
claims to be the "president" of Syria. We're "great friends" with the Crown >> Prince of Saudi Arabia (whose public executions are continual). We seem to >> have blinders on our eyes when talking about the Sunni terrorists, who have >> committed 82% of all terrorist attacks in three decades (as reported by both >> the United States and France). Before Trump decided it was time kiss the
ass of the current, head-chopping terrorist president of Syria, he first
removed the $10 million dollar bounty on his head for... (you guessed it)
terrorism. There is no moral high ground in our country and especially not >> in genocidal Israel.
And Biden/Obama gave them pallets of cash in order to appease them.
Of course Islam encompasses many types of people and beliefs. I am referring in
particular to the terrorist faction.
Taken as a whole the entire Middle East are not to be trusted in terms of being
allies to the US.
The only country who is a true ally to the US is Israel.
And call me paranoid but I don't trust them either but I trust them more than the Arab states.
As for political posturing, that's politics.
They all do it.
And like i always say, follow the money to find the reasons why.
--snip a bunch of stuff we mostly agree on.
Who would have guessed :)
Prior to that, Palestine was known as the land of Canaan where the
Hebrew tribes/kingdoms of Judah and what became modern day Israel
existed.
Dragged to Sunday school for years by my mom I have a decent knowledge
of the Bible.
Also, I was the kid who would ask the tough questions like if Adam and
Eve had 2 sons,
where did all the other people come from?
Yep.
I actually asked that question among others.
Anyway, Look in Genesis where God has a covenant with Abram and where he
is specific in defining the borders of the land as between 2 rivers.
God also tells Joshua that he is giving the same land (Canaan) to the
people of Israel as he promised to their ancestors.
And there are many more verses like that.
I cannot believe I still remember this from my Catechism days.
On 2026-03-21 3:11 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:49:07 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Israel claims a combination of their God of the Bible and history proves >>> it's their land.
Basically they claim to be the indigenous people of the land and for
thousands of years.
Various archaeological evidence.
There are a lot of people that would like the land their ancestors lived
on 2000 years ago but they are shit out of luck. They don't own most of
the politicians and confused Christians that didn't get the message about
a new covenant.
The reality is that the precedent set by Israel gives the Indigenous
here in Canada the right to ask for their land back. The government of British Columbia just screwed over anyone who bought land anywhere in
the metropolitan areas by giving ownership of the land back to a tribe
of around 1,400 people. You can imagine the nightmare it will be once
the current owners die. These useless Indians will get billions for
merely existing.
The reality is that to the winners go the spoils.
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 05:58:22 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
And speaking of NutYahoo, he recently compared Jesus unfavorably to
Genghis Khan, whom he said (unlike Jesus) "got things done."
(Paraphrased.) It even got some Zionist "Christians" confused and upset.
I didn't think that was possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledot_Yeshu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_in_Islam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
just saying...
On 2026-03-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-21 3:11 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:49:07 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Israel claims a combination of their God of the Bible and history proves >>>> it's their land.
Basically they claim to be the indigenous people of the land and for
thousands of years.
Various archaeological evidence.
There are a lot of people that would like the land their ancestors lived >>> on 2000 years ago but they are shit out of luck. They don't own most of
the politicians and confused Christians that didn't get the message about >>> a new covenant.
The reality is that the precedent set by Israel gives the Indigenous
here in Canada the right to ask for their land back. The government of
British Columbia just screwed over anyone who bought land anywhere in
the metropolitan areas by giving ownership of the land back to a tribe
of around 1,400 people. You can imagine the nightmare it will be once
the current owners die. These useless Indians will get billions for
merely existing.
The reality is that to the winners go the spoils.
I'm waiting to see who wins in the war between Iran and Israel. I've got a feeling it won't be Israel.
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 21:20:52 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Prior to that, Palestine was known as the land of Canaan where the
Hebrew tribes/kingdoms of Judah and what became modern day Israel
existed.
iirc, after despoiling Egypt and Moses getting his GPS fixed, they moved into the land of Caanan and killed all the Canaanites. Not much has
changed.
Dragged to Sunday school for years by my mom I have a decent knowledge
of the Bible.
Also, I was the kid who would ask the tough questions like if Adam and
Eve had 2 sons,
where did all the other people come from?
Yep.
I actually asked that question among others.
Luckily they tried to raise me Catholic. I finally read the New Testament
in the 'Good News for Modern Man' version in boot camp because there was nothing else to read. I've taken a few shots at the OT and never got too
far other than skipping ahead to Ecclesiasticus.,Proverbs, and Psalms. I think I made it through Apocalypse once. They had some good 'shrooms on Patmos. The followers of Darby and Schofield lap that slop up.
Anyway, Look in Genesis where God has a covenant with Abram and where he
is specific in defining the borders of the land as between 2 rivers.
God also tells Joshua that he is giving the same land (Canaan) to the
people of Israel as he promised to their ancestors.
My ancestors were chasing mammoths around northern Europe at the time. Why should I worry about west Asian tribal myths. Of course it says god gave them the land; they wrote the frigging book.
And there are many more verses like that.
I cannot believe I still remember this from my Catechism days.
I think my catechism was a bit different. iirc it said there was no salvation outside of the Church, and they didn't mean some random
storefront church.
On 2026-03-22, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-21, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-21, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
(Lots of snips)
What are the "reasonable" arguments for Israel stealing Palestinian land? The
Palestinians (in good faith) took them in during and after World War II, >>>> only to have the bastards steal the land from their hosts. Israel is
parasite country. Calling modern Israel the Israel of the Bible, doesn't >>>> make it so. That Israel ceased to exist in 70 A.D. It's purpose was
fulfilled.
Israel claims a combination of their God of the Bible and history proves it's their land.
Basically they claim to be the indigenous people of the land and for thousands of years.
Various archaeological evidence.
What the modern state of Israel claims and what is true are too different >> things. Until 1948, Israel did not exist since the Romans destroyed the
Temple and Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Some Jews lived (in peace) in Palestine as >> well as Christians and Muslims. But there is no historic claim to Israel for
modern (rabbinic) Judaism. Native Americans have a more clear historic claim
to the United States, then do modern Jews have claim to Palestine.
And this goes back to the beginning of time. Who owned the land from the start and
why do they , each side, believe it's their land.
Israel as a state was formed in 1948.
Modern Palestine was created when the Brits abandoned the area. so for arguments sake,
within the last 100 years or so.
Prior to that, Palestine was known as the land of Canaan where the Hebrew tribes/kingdoms
of Judah and what became modern day Israel existed.
Historically speaking, the ancient Israelites established kingdoms in that land way back
in the BC era which was way ahead of the Palestinians which although did have a presence
in the same area were not recognized as such until the Romans renamed the regine "Palestine"
the early AD time frame.
I don't know if you believe in the Bible or not. If you do, please show me >> where God promised the modern nation of Israel the right to Palestine. Do >> you think the Bible teaches that the Jews are still God's chosen people. If >> so, where do you find that? In the New Testament, or in the Old? Or
anywhere?
Dragged to Sunday school for years by my mom I have a decent knowledge of the Bible.
Also, I was the kid who would ask the tough questions like if Adam and Eve had 2 sons,
where did all the other people come from?
Yep.
I actually asked that question among others.
So anyway, you keep tossing in Modern Israel where both the Israelites and Palestinians belief
in land ownership goes way back in time.
Anyway, Look in Genesis where God has a covenant with Abram and where he is specific in defining
the borders of the land as between 2 rivers.
God also tells Joshua that he is giving the same land (Canaan) to the people of Israel as he promised
to their ancestors.
And there are many more verses like that.
I cannot believe I still remember this from my Catechism days.
And the Palestinians claim similar reasons although technically they didn't exist as a group
until sometime in the 1960's. However the ancient people of the area, Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians,
and others can be traced to modern day people as well.
The main difference is that the Palestinians — Christians, Muslims and Jews
were living peacefully together in Palestine before the Jews decided to
steal the land and force the Palestinians into refugee camps. They did this >> through guile, terrorism and force.
It takes 2 to hora :)
The Jews believe the land is theirs.
The Palestinians believe it belongs to them.
And then of course in modern times we have the disaster the UN caused which has resulted
in the political angle being pushed currently.
Only a disaster because the Jews wouldn't accept that the native
Palestinians had a right to their own land, homes and property. Would you >> quietly go into the night if and Indian tribe showed up at your house, said >> "this is mine" and used terrorist thugs to force you out of your own home? >> They would (of course) "generously" offer you a tent in a fenced off "refugee
camp" and tell you that you should be happy you got that. (And then they
would take back their word and force you out that camp a few years later, >> when you started growing orchards and building huts to live in.)
Again: The Jews believe the land is theirs.
The Palestinians believe it belongs to them.
Gaza. Lebanon. Syria — and, using (mostly) the United States as their proxy,
Iraq and Iran. The Israelis have no problem killing Christian Palestinians
and Lebanese as well as Muslims. Every month they steal more land on the >>>> West Bank. Thugs from the United States (dual citizens of the U.S. and >>>> Israel) go to the West Bank, cut down orchards, kill sheep and burn down >>>> Palestinian homes. After all, they're only goyim, aren't they? And this is
"unoccupied" land. No "people" live there and own property.
It's a war.
However, do you have some cites for the above?
Having grown up in NYC where my neighborhood was truly a melting pot
and bordering on an area that was mostly Hasidic Jews (the penguins), there >>> was NEVER a problem. They kept to themselves and followed their religion. >>> The stores and shops in that area were closed on Saturday and open on Sunday
where shops in my area were closed.
Yes, it's a war. Who started it in the 1940s? Who stole homes and property >> from the people who lived there? Who's committing genocide against those
they forced out of their own land and into the open air gulag of Gaza and >> the refugee camps of the West Bank? I'm not arguing that it's not a war, I'm
just trying to figure out why you take the side of the genocidal thugs who >> STOLE the land in the first place and have been "mowing the grass" (killing >> men, women and children) for decades? Where's your sense of justice?
Actually it was given to the Jews in 1917 via Balfour and your buddies the Rothschilds.
when the Ottomans abandoned the area, the league of nations granted GB control in order to
provide, on that land, a Jewish home for lack of a better term.
The Brits made a mess of the place making promises to both sides that they were unable to
keep which started the modern day conflicts.
Jump to 1948 where Israel was formed without any input from the Palestinians which
at the time were the major number of people living there.
This was bad.
And I don't agree with it at all.
As for the Hasidic Jews, they have a huge pedophile problem. Strangely
enough, the city of New York let's them take care of it "in house." It's not
a far stretch for them, when it's argued in their "sacred" Talmud that
raping a child of three years and one day, makes her the wife of the rapist.
They are also, at least prior to the illegal invasion in NYC one of the top ethnic
groups milking the welfare systems.
They know how to work the system.
I can't argue the pedo point because it seems to be true.
There are many perverse type behaviors being done in the name of religion. Like Rabbis checking young girls panties to see if they were unclean (period).
I don't agree with any of that, but what I am saying is compared to the ethnic groups moving
into NYC these days, they didn't cause us christians any trouble.
We didn't have to worry about some bomber on a bus blowing us up.
These days?
Read the papers and decide for yourself.
And then of course they have their various sects as well and there were plenty of
reformed, non ultra religious Jews living there as well and they didn't cause any troubles at all.
These days?
It's a war zone and in the press almost weekly.
Guess why?
I'll give you a hint, it ain't the penguins.
Yeah, their crimes are quiet, covered up and behind the scenes. (I'm not
saying all Hasidic Jews, btw.)
They are "connected" to some degree if you will but they aren't targeting
you and I simply because we are not like them.
That's my point.
But you know full well who is.
A group of people who have no intention of assimilating into the culture but instead
want to force their culture upon the citizens of the countries they invade. It's a fact.
And they do not even deny it.
Have you been totally ignoring the news of the genocide in Gaza and the >>>> theft of land in the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria? You need to widen your >>>> scope of reading beyond the MSM (owned and controlled by the Rothschild >>>> cabal).
You are not offering proof.
I give you Oct 7th.
What do you have?
You haven't seen pictures of the utterly destroyed Gaza? Really? You haven't
read the news of the Israeli government cutting off their utilities, (water >> and electricity) and blocking food and medicine shipments? You haven't seen >> pictures of blown up hospitals, churches or the skeletal children, who have >> nothing to eat and are starving to death?
Of course I have.
And what and who started this modern day war?
I also see articles where Hamas, sponsored by Iran BTW, are intercepting UN food and
medical supplies thus starving their own people.
Do I agree with Israel turning off water, electricity and such to civilians? Of course not.
I also do not support Hamas hiding in hospitals, Mosques, funeral homes, schools
and so forth where they are using civilians as human shields.
Does Israel do that?
How many Israel suicide bomber attacks can you find compared to Islamic or those supporting Islam?
How many protests turning violent can you find organized by Jews as compared to Islamist's?
How many times have you seen Israel holding hostages, killing some and using them as bargaining chips?
Shooting up concerts?
Attacking military bases here in US?
Knocking down the WTC?
etc.....
I congratulate you on your amazing myopia. It must be nice to live in
delusional bullshit world, free of all reality.
I wouldn't know as I consider all sources including AlJazeera and other Arabic centered
media.
October 7th doesn't excuse the government of Israel or their Army from war >> crimes. As mentioned before, collective punishment is a war crime. Genocide >> is a war crime. NutYahoo has already been found guilty of war crimes in an >> international court for his actions Gaza. The five Nordic states will not >> allow him to travel to their countries. Did you also miss that bit of news?
Both sides have committed war crimes.
So has Russia and Ukraine.
As for the Nordic countries, also known as Quislings, they have a point regarding the food and
electricity being turned off.
I mentioned this above.
I'm part Nordic myself. Do you know what the Scandinavian slang word for traitor is?
It's Quisling.
.Compared to sixty years of Israelis "mowing the grass" in the open air gulag
of Gaza? How many Israelis died on October 7th (and how many were killed by
"friendly" fire)? How many tens of thousands of Gazans have been murdered or
starved out by the genocidal thugs in Israel? There's no comparison. You >>>> would have to be completely blind not to see the discrepancy. (How many >>>> Iranians die each day now in Iran because of U.S. and Israeli carpet bombing
of Tehran?) Wake up and smell the reality.
So where are the cites showing this?
You are going in circles with conspiracy theories.
No one is so blind as those who won't see. You really have to work at it, to
miss the obvious, don't you?
Here, tell me what you see... Is this a "conspiracy?"
This is what Israel has done to Gaza. It's what they're trying to do Tehran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwQlPm7lCUc
Have you seen footage of what Hamas did to families, women, babies on Oct 7th?
As for Gaza, this is war.
It's horrible and IMHO a waste of life.
Have you seen pics of Dresden after WW2?
Looks just like Gaza in your video.
The civilians are always the ones to suffer.
This is one reason why war sux.
As for Iran, you need to do some research. They sponsor terrorism via proxies.
They just revealed that they have miselles capable of traveling much longer distances than first believed.
They admitted to negotiators that they have enough almost fully enriched uranium to build several nuclear bombs.
The Iran Nuclear Deal was a complete farce and Iran was building bombs
as fast as they could.
They have a netork of underground tunnels and have hidden their stockpile very
well.
These are crafty people on a religious mission and nothing will stop them. The US is playing whack a mole here.
Appeasement does not work with fanatics.
Ask Biden and Obama about their pallets of cash given to Iran and how it helped.
Somebody has to do something to at least slow them down because if not they will
be launching nukes at all of their enemies.
They are crazy and don't care if they die for Allah.
There are thousands upon thousands of these pictures and videos showing this
destruction. The only way to avoid the evidence (your so-called
"conspiracy") is to be purposely obtuse and force yourself to ignore
reality.
I'm referring to your claims of years of mowing the lawn and waging wars. Where is evidence of this?
What you are showing is post Oct 7th.
It's a war and who started the latest version of it?
Where is your evidence that this type of behavior is BAU for Israel? Terrorism is certainly BAU for the Islamist radicals.
As for Iran, they killed more than 30,000 of their own people in the past months.
They just had public hangings of 3 people whose only "crime" was peaceful protesting.
And how many Americans and others have they killed since 1979 despite all the attempts
at appeasement ie:pallets of cash?
So you claim, again, with zero proof. I call your claim bullshit (not your >> bullshit, but something gullibly believe on faith). It's a lying
"conspiracy." Prove me wrong. As you will probably not remember, since you >> seem adept at ignoring facts, Israel and the United States bragged about how
many Starlink receivers they had smuggled into Iran, and how many Mossad
agents and their stooges who were part of the coup attempt. They thought
they were going to win while they were bragging. Guess what, those traitors >> and Mossad agents were wiped out. (As they would be in any country.) But you
ignore the fact that many Iranian policemen were killed by these terrorists >> (who happened to be "good" terrorists because they were on our side).
You are all over the place Ron :)
Let's take one at a time.
1. Iran killing their own citizens for protesting.
<https://time.com/7357635/more-than-30000-killed-in-iran-say-senior-officials/>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres>
<https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead>
<https://iranhumanrights.org/2026/03/three-protesters-publicly-hanged-in-iran-dozens-more-at-imminent-risk-of-execution/>
2. Starlink receivers being smuggled into Iran?
Yea. And so what? You do know that Iran cut off the Internet. Why? So that the regime could censor people
from finding out exactly what was going on there.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Internet_blackout_in_Iran>
And do you really believe that Iran is not cyber attacking Israel, USA etc ? Of course they are trying.
Why does it bother you that the truth about what is really going on in Iran is allowed
to be told?
The claim that these "protesters'" (seditionists) "only crime" was protesting
is bullshit. It was an armed attempt to overthrow the government of Iran, >> which is sedition. Sedition is a capital crime every where. Just reality.
And the protests supporting Palestine here in the USA are being funded and organized
by professional protesters.
Your point?
Sure sedition may be a crime but if the majority of the people don't like the current
regime it's up to them to change it.
Welcome to the US Revolutionary war.
And BTW, I really doubt that 30,000 people were ALL dangerous seditionist's. You have zero proof of that.
Any Jews knocking down buildings?
Throwing gays off rooftops?
Beheading people?
Shouting death to Israel and America?
I'm not seeing it.
Have you looked at ANY, any pictures at all, of Gaza after Israel's carpet >> bombing of the city. I can't believe you're so reality challenged that
you're even asking this question. Are you in some of cult where they don't >> allow you to think or observe?
After October 7th.
And who started that again?
I am however seeing Islamist's creating havoc all over the world daily.
We recently had 3 or 4 attacks in the USA.
Is it the Jews again?
Right. It was the "Islamists" who started these two wars against Iran, not >> the Israelis or their NutYahoo butt leach, Trump.
Again you are all over the place.
You point to evidence regarding Gaza destruction and then morph into Iran.
Someone had to stop Iran from their evil.
Have you noticed that the other Arab states are being attacked by Iran?
Have you noticed that those states are aligning with the US and Israel?
Why do you think that is?
Maybe they know something you don't.
Ya think?
"Islamist" covers a lot of territory. The Islamists terrorists are almost >> always Sunni, not Shia. And yet Trump cuddles up to the terrorist who now >> claims to be the "president" of Syria. We're "great friends" with the Crown >> Prince of Saudi Arabia (whose public executions are continual). We seem to >> have blinders on our eyes when talking about the Sunni terrorists, who have >> committed 82% of all terrorist attacks in three decades (as reported by both
the United States and France). Before Trump decided it was time kiss the
ass of the current, head-chopping terrorist president of Syria, he first
removed the $10 million dollar bounty on his head for... (you guessed it) >> terrorism. There is no moral high ground in our country and especially not >> in genocidal Israel.
And Biden/Obama gave them pallets of cash in order to appease them.
Of course Islam encompasses many types of people and beliefs. I am referring in
particular to the terrorist faction.
Taken as a whole the entire Middle East are not to be trusted in terms of being
allies to the US.
The only country who is a true ally to the US is Israel.
And call me paranoid but I don't trust them either but I trust them more than the Arab states.
As for political posturing, that's politics.
They all do it.
And like i always say, follow the money to find the reasons why.
--snip a bunch of stuff we mostly agree on.
Who would have guessed :)
On 2026-03-23 6:53 a.m., RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-21 3:11 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 14:49:07 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Israel claims a combination of their God of the Bible and history proves >>>>> it's their land.
Basically they claim to be the indigenous people of the land and for >>>>> thousands of years.
Various archaeological evidence.
There are a lot of people that would like the land their ancestors lived >>>> on 2000 years ago but they are shit out of luck. They don't own most of >>>> the politicians and confused Christians that didn't get the message about >>>> a new covenant.
The reality is that the precedent set by Israel gives the Indigenous
here in Canada the right to ask for their land back. The government of
British Columbia just screwed over anyone who bought land anywhere in
the metropolitan areas by giving ownership of the land back to a tribe
of around 1,400 people. You can imagine the nightmare it will be once
the current owners die. These useless Indians will get billions for
merely existing.
The reality is that to the winners go the spoils.
I'm waiting to see who wins in the war between Iran and Israel. I've got a >> feeling it won't be Israel.
And I've got a feeling that I don't care about either side. Both have no love for Christ or Christianity, so they are reserved to their fate.
On 2026-03-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 21:20:52 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Prior to that, Palestine was known as the land of Canaan where the
Hebrew tribes/kingdoms of Judah and what became modern day Israel
existed.
iirc, after despoiling Egypt and Moses getting his GPS fixed, they moved
into the land of Caanan and killed all the Canaanites. Not much has
changed.
Moses GPS!
ROTFLMAO!
Actually the Bible contradicts itself on this one.
It does offer up God, supposedly, commanding Joshua to destroy
the Canaanites, other texts suggest otherwise. From an archaeological perspective modern interpretations suggest that the Israelite s were not foreign
invaders but instead emerged from within the Canaanite population itself.
Too much contradiction to have a solid, factual this is what happened scenario.
Dragged to Sunday school for years by my mom I have a decent knowledge
of the Bible.
Also, I was the kid who would ask the tough questions like if Adam and
Eve had 2 sons,
where did all the other people come from?
Yep.
I actually asked that question among others.
Luckily they tried to raise me Catholic. I finally read the New Testament >> in the 'Good News for Modern Man' version in boot camp because there was
nothing else to read. I've taken a few shots at the OT and never got too
far other than skipping ahead to Ecclesiasticus.,Proverbs, and Psalms. I
think I made it through Apocalypse once. They had some good 'shrooms on
Patmos. The followers of Darby and Schofield lap that slop up.
LOL!
Good story!
Anyway, Look in Genesis where God has a covenant with Abram and where he >>> is specific in defining the borders of the land as between 2 rivers.
God also tells Joshua that he is giving the same land (Canaan) to the
people of Israel as he promised to their ancestors.
My ancestors were chasing mammoths around northern Europe at the time. Why >> should I worry about west Asian tribal myths. Of course it says god gave
them the land; they wrote the frigging book.
Whether it's true or not, this is the source of the problem of who owns the land.
Romans 3 v1-2 is called Oracles rule.
It's an interesting read.
And when modern archaeology and secular history is taken into account it becomes
even more confusing.
And there are many more verses like that.
I cannot believe I still remember this from my Catechism days.
I think my catechism was a bit different. iirc it said there was no
salvation outside of the Church, and they didn't mean some random
storefront church.
Probably was.
Which poses the age old question, which religion is the true religion?
Until someone actually comes back from the dead with data, we will never know.
On 2026-03-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 05:58:22 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
And speaking of NutYahoo, he recently compared Jesus unfavorably to
Genghis Khan, whom he said (unlike Jesus) "got things done."
(Paraphrased.) It even got some Zionist "Christians" confused and
upset.
I didn't think that was possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledot_Yeshu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_in_Islam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
just saying...
And yet these Zionist "Christians" choose the Jews, who ridicule Jesus
and Mary, over the Muslims who, at least, respect them. This whole
"brand" of "kowtowing to the Jews" "Christianity" didn't show up until
the late 1800s.
I guess they forget to read the New Testament they claim to base their religion on.
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 11:03:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 05:58:22 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
And speaking of NutYahoo, he recently compared Jesus unfavorably to
Genghis Khan, whom he said (unlike Jesus) "got things done."
(Paraphrased.) It even got some Zionist "Christians" confused and
upset.
I didn't think that was possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledot_Yeshu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_in_Islam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
just saying...
And yet these Zionist "Christians" choose the Jews, who ridicule Jesus
and Mary, over the Muslims who, at least, respect them. This whole
"brand" of "kowtowing to the Jews" "Christianity" didn't show up until
the late 1800s.
I guess they forget to read the New Testament they claim to base their
religion on.
Most are very fond of the OT. The game has changed since Vatican II but
when I was a kid the Catholics were clear on the question of Christ-
killers. There was a prayer on Good Friday for the perfidious Jews that
the veil be lifted from their hearts.
It has been rewritten several times with suggestions from the ADL. The Society of Saint Pius X was upset by the concession to the Jews.
While there was nothing that said Catholics couldn't read the OT, few did. The Psalms and a few cherry picked prophesies were included in the liturgy but that was about it.
The only lines in the OT that matter to me are the ones which predict
the coming of Jesus Christ and shockingly detail what would happen to
the Messiah, 750 years before he was revealed to the world. If Jesus
Christ came to fulfill the Old Testament, then the New Testament is what matters most. Besides, faggots and Muslims consistently have problems
with the Old Testament and misinterpret _it_ to make us sound like hypocrites or to suggest that the Bible has been corrupted, but they
don't have much to say about the New Testament. It's almost as if it
were perfect.
The only lines in the OT that matter to me are the ones which predict
the coming of Jesus Christ and shockingly detail what would happen to
the Messiah, 750 years before he was revealed to the world.
The only lines in the OT that matter to me are the ones which predict
the coming of Jesus Christ and shockingly detail what would happen to
the Messiah, 750 years before he was revealed to the world.
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 11:03:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 05:58:22 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
And speaking of NutYahoo, he recently compared Jesus unfavorably to
Genghis Khan, whom he said (unlike Jesus) "got things done."
(Paraphrased.) It even got some Zionist "Christians" confused and
upset.
I didn't think that was possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledot_Yeshu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_in_Islam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
just saying...
And yet these Zionist "Christians" choose the Jews, who ridicule Jesus
and Mary, over the Muslims who, at least, respect them. This whole
"brand" of "kowtowing to the Jews" "Christianity" didn't show up until
the late 1800s.
I guess they forget to read the New Testament they claim to base their
religion on.
Most are very fond of the OT. The game has changed since Vatican II but
when I was a kid the Catholics were clear on the question of Christ-
killers. There was a prayer on Good Friday for the perfidious Jews that
the veil be lifted from their hearts.
It has been rewritten several times with suggestions from the ADL. The Society of Saint Pius X was upset by the concession to the Jews.
While there was nothing that said Catholics couldn't read the OT, few did. The Psalms and a few cherry picked prophesies were included in the liturgy but that was about it.
On 2026-03-23 3:05 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 11:03:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 05:58:22 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
And speaking of NutYahoo, he recently compared Jesus unfavorably to
Genghis Khan, whom he said (unlike Jesus) "got things done."
(Paraphrased.) It even got some Zionist "Christians" confused and
upset.
I didn't think that was possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledot_Yeshu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_in_Islam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
just saying...
And yet these Zionist "Christians" choose the Jews, who ridicule Jesus
and Mary, over the Muslims who, at least, respect them. This whole
"brand" of "kowtowing to the Jews" "Christianity" didn't show up until
the late 1800s.
I guess they forget to read the New Testament they claim to base their
religion on.
Most are very fond of the OT. The game has changed since Vatican II but
when I was a kid the Catholics were clear on the question of Christ-
killers. There was a prayer on Good Friday for the perfidious Jews that
the veil be lifted from their hearts.
It has been rewritten several times with suggestions from the ADL. The
Society of Saint Pius X was upset by the concession to the Jews.
While there was nothing that said Catholics couldn't read the OT, few did. >> The Psalms and a few cherry picked prophesies were included in the liturgy >> but that was about it.
The only lines in the OT that matter to me are the ones which predict
the coming of Jesus Christ and shockingly detail what would happen to
the Messiah, 750 years before he was revealed to the world. If Jesus
Christ came to fulfill the Old Testament, then the New Testament is what matters most. Besides, faggots and Muslims consistently have problems
with the Old Testament and misinterpret _it_ to make us sound like hypocrites or to suggest that the Bible has been corrupted, but they
don't have much to say about the New Testament. It's almost as if it
were perfect.
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 19:25:26 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
The only lines in the OT that matter to me are the ones which predict
the coming of Jesus Christ and shockingly detail what would happen to
the Messiah, 750 years before he was revealed to the world.
I don't remember the details but I recall some of those lines wer very freely translated from Hebrew. That's not difficult.
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3087993/jewish/Why-No- Vowels-in-the-Torah.htm
On 2026-03-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 11:03:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
On 2026-03-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 05:58:22 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
And speaking of NutYahoo, he recently compared Jesus unfavorably to
Genghis Khan, whom he said (unlike Jesus) "got things done."
(Paraphrased.) It even got some Zionist "Christians" confused and
upset.
I didn't think that was possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledot_Yeshu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_in_Islam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
just saying...
And yet these Zionist "Christians" choose the Jews, who ridicule Jesus
and Mary, over the Muslims who, at least, respect them. This whole
"brand" of "kowtowing to the Jews" "Christianity" didn't show up until
the late 1800s.
I guess they forget to read the New Testament they claim to base their
religion on.
Most are very fond of the OT. The game has changed since Vatican II but
when I was a kid the Catholics were clear on the question of Christ-
killers. There was a prayer on Good Friday for the perfidious Jews that
the veil be lifted from their hearts.
It has been rewritten several times with suggestions from the ADL. The
Society of Saint Pius X was upset by the concession to the Jews.
While there was nothing that said Catholics couldn't read the OT, few did. >> The Psalms and a few cherry picked prophesies were included in the liturgy >> but that was about it.
Actually there is more than that, at least in my experience. Catholics really like the Book of Wisdom and some of the other books the Jews (and later the Protestants) reject. The dueterocannoncals were originally in the LXX (Old Testament Israelites Greek Old Testament) but there were too many prophesies there pointing to Christ, so the Jews rejected them (and, of course, the Protestants followed suit).
he's obviously referencing Isaiah 53, which is about a specific
period of time in *my* life.
he's obviously referencing Isaiah 53, which is about a specific
period of time in *my* life.
I can't believe so much kookery and narcissism can be found at the
bottom of a can of Pepsi.
On 3/24/2026 1:08 PM, DFS wrote:
he's obviously referencing Isaiah 53, which is about a specific
period of time in *my* life.
I can't believe so much kookery and narcissism can be found at the
bottom of a can of Pepsi.
In this case, it had to do with snorting very good and powerful crystal methamphetamine.
he's obviously referencing Isaiah 53, which is about a specific
period of time in *my* life.
I can't believe so much kookery and narcissism can be found at the
bottom of a can of Pepsi.
In this case, it had to do with snorting very good and powerful
crystal methamphetamine.
Cosby sold it to you?
On 3/24/2026 1:20 PM, DFS wrote:
he's obviously referencing Isaiah 53, which is about a specific
period of time in *my* life.
I can't believe so much kookery and narcissism can be found at the
bottom of a can of Pepsi.
In this case, it had to do with snorting very good and powerful
crystal methamphetamine.
Cosby sold it to you?
A very good friend shared with me.
On 3/24/2026 1:11 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 3/24/2026 1:08 PM, DFS wrote:
he's obviously referencing Isaiah 53, which is about a specific
period of time in *my* life.
I can't believe so much kookery and narcissism can be found at the
bottom of a can of Pepsi.
In this case, it had to do with snorting very good and powerful
crystal methamphetamine.
Cosby sold it to you?
At Tue, 24 Mar 2026 13:25:56 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/24/2026 1:20 PM, DFS wrote:
; he's obviously referencing Isaiah 53, which is about a specific >>>>> > period of time in *my* life.
I can't believe so much kookery and narcissism can be found at the
bottom of a can of Pepsi.
In this case, it had to do with snorting very good and powerful
crystal methamphetamine.
Cosby sold it to you?
A very good friend shared with me.
Don't look now, but the Distro Lackey will be "shoulding"
you any minute.
Speaking of which: what do you think of your current Linux install?
What a lot of people don't realize is that many (if not the majority) of
Old Testament passages quoted in the New Testament come from the Greek Septuagint (LXX) translation of the Bible. That's why it's sometimes
hard to "collate" the Old Testament passages (from the Hebrew Old
Testament) with the quotes in the New Testament.
Actually there is more than that, at least in my experience. Catholics
really like the Book of Wisdom and some of the other books the Jews (and later the Protestants) reject. The dueterocannoncals were originally in
the LXX (Old Testament Israelites Greek Old Testament) but there were
too many prophesies there pointing to Christ, so the Jews rejected them
(and,
of course, the Protestants followed suit).
On 2026-03-24, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually there is more than that, at least in my experience. Catholics
really like the Book of Wisdom and some of the other books the Jews (and
later the Protestants) reject. The dueterocannoicals were originally in the >> LXX (Old Testament Israelites Greek Old Testament) but there were too many >> prophesies there pointing to Christ, so the Jews rejected them (and, of
course, the Protestants followed suit).
Well from a biblical POV, Revelation 22:18 discusses adding or removing anything
from the Bible, so with all of the different variations we are in trouble already.
On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 15:52:39 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
What a lot of people don't realize is that many (if not the majority) of
Old Testament passages quoted in the New Testament come from the Greek
Septuagint (LXX) translation of the Bible. That's why it's sometimes
hard to "collate" the Old Testament passages (from the Hebrew Old
Testament) with the quotes in the New Testament.
iirc that is a problem for the Protestant 'sola scriptura' crowd/
On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 15:28:18 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
Actually there is more than that, at least in my experience. Catholics
really like the Book of Wisdom and some of the other books the Jews (and
later the Protestants) reject. The dueterocannoncals were originally in
the LXX (Old Testament Israelites Greek Old Testament) but there were
too many prophesies there pointing to Christ, so the Jews rejected them
(and,
of course, the Protestants followed suit).
I like Ecclesiasticus (Wisdom of Sirach).
On 2026-03-24, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-24, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually there is more than that, at least in my experience. Catholics
really like the Book of Wisdom and some of the other books the Jews (and >>> later the Protestants) reject. The dueterocannoicals were originally in the
LXX (Old Testament Israelites Greek Old Testament) but there were too many >>> prophesies there pointing to Christ, so the Jews rejected them (and, of >>> course, the Protestants followed suit).
Well from a biblical POV, Revelation 22:18 discusses adding or removing anything
from the Bible, so with all of the different variations we are in trouble already.
That's why Christ left the Church with a teaching authority that decided what was Biblical and what wasn't. The Church codified the canon in the early centuries of the Church and it included the dueterocannoicals.
As for the Scofield Bible commentary and the Zionist "Christianity" taught by Moody and company, there's a lot there that's simply *not* in the Bible. (Like the rapture and the rebuilding of the Temple at the end times.)
On 2026-03-24, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2026-03-24, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:Yes.
On 2026-03-24, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually there is more than that, at least in my experience. Catholics >>>> really like the Book of Wisdom and some of the other books the Jews (and >>>> later the Protestants) reject. The dueterocannoicals were originally in the
LXX (Old Testament Israelites Greek Old Testament) but there were too many
prophesies there pointing to Christ, so the Jews rejected them (and, of >>>> course, the Protestants followed suit).
Well from a biblical POV, Revelation 22:18 discusses adding or removing anything
from the Bible, so with all of the different variations we are in trouble already.
That's why Christ left the Church with a teaching authority that decided
what was Biblical and what wasn't. The Church codified the canon in the
early centuries of the Church and it included the dueterocannoicals.
As for the Scofield Bible commentary and the Zionist "Christianity" taught >> by Moody and company, there's a lot there that's simply *not* in the Bible. >> (Like the rapture and the rebuilding of the Temple at the end times.)
And that is why the question arises as to what is the true Bible?
Christ's arrival supposedly made the old testament somewhat obsolete.
All the sacrifices and so forth.
Yet so many changes were made by Luther, King James and many others before them.
Look at the lost books like Enoch.
True?
I dunno.
I don't think anyone does.
And of course we have something unearthed almost yearly which perports to
be the true Bible.
I dunno about that either.
To me it's like ancient skeletal remains. Imagine someone with encephalitis or no limbs being dug up 500 years from now. Would those people believe this is what
the past history was like.
They might.
Having been brought up in the Lutheran church my current thoughts are more towards
a supreme being or beings and that the Bible, scrolls, statues, drawings in caves and
so forth are observations based upon the knowledge at the time. Hence Ezekiel and his
"spaceship".
Things were written down in terms that people of the day could relate to.
I certainly do not believe that we just came out of nothing.
There is too much order in the world to believe that.
This is planned and my belief is some supreme being, a God if you will created it.
I suppose someday we will find out although the recent events are certainly lining
up with the Bible.
Time will tell.
30 And Philip running thither, heard him reading the prophet Isaias.
And he said: Thinkest thou that thou understandest what thou readest?
31 Who said: And how can I, unless some man shew me? And he desired
Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
On 2026-03-24, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 15:28:18 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
Actually there is more than that, at least in my experience. Catholics
really like the Book of Wisdom and some of the other books the Jews
(and later the Protestants) reject. The dueterocannoncals were
originally in the LXX (Old Testament Israelites Greek Old Testament)
but there were too many prophesies there pointing to Christ, so the
Jews rejected them (and,
of course, the Protestants followed suit).
I like Ecclesiasticus (Wisdom of Sirach).
I don't know if I've ever read it. I should do so.
Yet so many changes were made by Luther, King James and many others
before them. Look at the lost books like Enoch.
On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 23:55:23 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
30 And Philip running thither, heard him reading the prophet Isaias.
And he said: Thinkest thou that thou understandest what thou readest?
31 Who said: And how can I, unless some man shew me? And he desired
Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
It's not clear who wrote Acts, but let's go with the best guess, Luke, a Green gentile physician, writing for gentiles.
Now let's look at Saul of Tarsus. The Jews certainly do not hold him in
high regard.
https://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13232-saul-of-tarsus
In any case he has his vision or epileptic fit as one prefers and finds a new career, building a religion base on Christ on the cross rather than
much of what Jesus was reported to teach by the apostles who actually knew him.
Joseph Smith had some unique visions too but so far the LDS sect hasn't
been as successful as Pauline Christianity.
It's strange that Marcion, who wanted to be entirely free of the OT
demiurge mostly kept Luke's gospel but also much of Paul, although he
edited both heavily.
On Wed, 25 Mar 2026 01:20:47 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Yet so many changes were made by Luther, King James and many others
before them. Look at the lost books like Enoch.
Supposedly Luther's first edition left out the 'epistle of straw', aka James.
https://biblehub.com/kjv/james/2.htm
"Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? "
That didn't line up well with 'sola fide, sola gratia, and sola
scriptura'.
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