L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net>wrote:
Ahoy lackeys! Even though you rest content in the arms of your chosenjunk distro, those who know are solidly against you.
Wayland is garbage:
<https://omar.yt/posts/wayland-set-the-linux-desktop-back-by-10-years>
After 17 years... holy moley! Even Boeing has had a better success!
The smart folks stick with X11.
If things get worse I will dump Linux altogether and write my own multi tasking OS implementation,
like I did so many years ago with CP/M:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/index.html
These days you need giggle bytes of bullshit just to say 'hello world'
Coding is simple, understand the hardware!
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html
Programming chips in asm is also fun and requires less hardware for even beyond high level programming coders these days.
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/pic/index.html
- If we needed sub-microsecond interrupt response time, the
recommendation was to implement the time-critical parts in an FPGA
and write a driver for that, using a documented framework for the
driver interface.
Ahoy lackeys! Even though you rest content in the arms of your chosen
junk distro, those who know are solidly against you.
Wayland is garbage:
<https://omar.yt/posts/wayland-set-the-linux-desktop-back-by-10-years>
After 17 years... holy moley! Even Boeing has had a better success!
The smart folks stick with X11.
The helpless lackeys have no choice.
Poor dumb bastards.
Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>wrote:
On 2026-03-22 19:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:
If things get worse I will dump Linux altogether and write my own multi tasking OS implementation,
like I did so many years ago with CP/M:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/index.html
These days you need giggle bytes of bullshit just to say 'hello world'
Coding is simple, understand the hardware!
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html
Programming chips in asm is also fun and requires less hardware for even beyond high level programming coders these days.
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/pic/index.html
It has been 10+ years since I last tried to bring an existing small
embedded multitasking system up on a (then) fairly modern microcomputer >chip. It was a new generation of the power-PC embedded controller we
used for a previous generation of one of our products.
After much banging of our heads, we found that
- Bare metal development was no longer supported.
- The recommended development path was to use the chip manufacturers
real-time Linux port and run our code in user mode.
- If we needed sub-microsecond interrupt response time, the
recommendation was to implement the time-critical parts in an FPGA
and write a driver for that, using a documented framework for the
driver interface.
- The only other option seemed to be to use their open-source bootloader
as a framework, and just add our application to the first half of its
code. But with use being a small customer, only buying a few thousand
CPUs, they would not be spending resources on supporting us.
We abandoned the effort.
If things get worse I will dump Linux altogether and write my own multi tasking OS implementation,
like I did so many years ago with CP/M:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/index.html
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 02:32:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
If things get worse I will dump Linux altogether and write my own multi tasking OS implementation,
like I did so many years ago with CP/M:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/index.html
Things *will* get worse.
The strategy for making GNU/Linux more popular is to bend over
backward to accommodate the digital idiots. These idiots will
demand their point-and-click, dummified GUIs and IBM/RedHat/freedesktop
will gladly deliver them.
Of course, in the process all choice will be eliminated. There
is nothing more confounding to a digital idiot than choice and
hence it must be removed.
Once Torvalds steps down from his beneficent stewardship, systemd will
be incorporated into the kernel and that will be the final death blow.
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable, and like
climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
Distro Lackey <dl@lackey.com>wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 02:32:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
If things get worse I will dump Linux altogether and write my own multi tasking OS implementation,
like I did so many years ago with CP/M:
https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/z80/index.html
Things *will* get worse.
The strategy for making GNU/Linux more popular is to bend over
backward to accommodate the digital idiots. These idiots will
demand their point-and-click, dummified GUIs and IBM/RedHat/freedesktop
will gladly deliver them.
Of course, in the process all choice will be eliminated. There
is nothing more confounding to a digital idiot than choice and
hence it must be removed.
Once Torvalds steps down from his beneficent stewardship, systemd will
be incorporated into the kernel and that will be the final death blow.
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable, and like
climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
The strategy for making GNU/Linux more popular is to bend over
backward to accommodate the digital idiots. These idiots will
demand their point-and-click, dummified GUIs
and IBM/RedHat/freedesktop will gladly deliver them.
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable, and like
climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world collapses around them.
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for lots of official things.
Some of those guys are good coders, so maybe things will split.
Reason was a more and more unreliable US and MS Windows with all sorts of spyware.
On 23/03/2026 14:18, Jan Panteltje wrote:
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for
lots of official things. Some of those guys are good coders, so
maybe things will split. Reason was a more and more unreliable
US and MS Windows with all sorts of spyware.
There is a growing distrust of anything made in America...
On 2026-03-23, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 23/03/2026 14:18, Jan Panteltje wrote:
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for
lots of official things. Some of those guys are good coders, so
maybe things will split. Reason was a more and more unreliable
US and MS Windows with all sorts of spyware.
There is a growing distrust of anything made in America...
It's about bloody time. I can't see how people can get so
paranoid about Chinese technology while simultaneously giving
all their personal information to U.S. tech oligarchs.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 16:23:49 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
Climate change is not the same thing as "warming."
Climate change is now disrupting the Gulf Stream, an oceanic
current that has kept northern Europe, and especially Great
Britain, abnormally warm for millennia.
The collapse of the
Gulf Stream will mean sub-arctic temperatures for London and
you therefore will freeze your ass off.
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
So global warming means cooling.
And when it doesn't happen, what will they scare us with next?
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 17:51:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
So global warming means cooling.
Climate change means "change." That is all.
And when it doesn't happen, what will they scare us with next?
It already *is* happening. Why do you think that there is so much
interest in the arctic? It's because the arctic is warming and
thus it will become more navigable to ships and more amenable to
mining and other economic exploitation.
The long hoped for "Northwest Passage" is now becoming a reality.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Passage>
In my region, major wind storms of 50-60 mph destructive winds
were a rarity. They occurred perhaps every 5 years. But now
they occur every 5 weeks, and in the past month it was every
5 days. The power companies are barely able to keep up with
the outages.
Also, rain everywhere is now more intense, due to the natural
increase in water vapor within a warming atmosphere. In my region,
nearly every rain period brings flood warnings -- and this was
completely unheard of in past years.
People like you cannot perceive the small but relentless changes
because they are stupid.
You obviously are not willing to admit that you are stupid but
you most certainly are stupid.
The sad fact remains: one cannot fix stupid.
What? I thought I was typing this from under five feet of water. Al Gore promised me.
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for lots
of official things.
Some of those guys are good coders, so maybe things will split.
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
On 2026-03-23 12:23 p.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
What? I thought I was typing this from under five feet of water. Al Gore promised me.
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for
lots of official things.
On Mar 23, 2026 at 9:23:49 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote <10prpel$9816$1@dont-email.me>:Whose records...The one produced by the interpolated data from cities
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
It very much is warmer... look at the records.
We are heading down a BAD path.Clinaet Derangement Syndrome
And the oceans are being impacted more -- they have something like 90-95% of the extra heat. Much of it at depths. Would take a LONG time to re-regulate even if we grew a brain as a species and took things seriously now.
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 17:51:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
So global warming means cooling.
Climate change means "change." That is all.
And when it doesn't happen, what will they scare us with next?
It already *is* happening. Why do you think that there is so much
interest in the arctic? It's because the arctic is warming and
thus it will become more navigable to ships and more amenable to
mining and other economic exploitation.
The long hoped for "Northwest Passage" is now becoming a reality.
Last time the NW passage was open was 1912 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Passage>
In my region, major wind storms of 50-60 mph destructive winds
were a rarity. They occurred perhaps every 5 years. But now
they occur every 5 weeks, and in the past month it was every
5 days. The power companies are barely able to keep up with
the outages.
Also, rain everywhere is now more intense, due to the natural
increase in water vapor within a warming atmosphere. In my region,
nearly every rain period brings flood warnings -- and this was
completely unheard of in past years.
People like you cannot perceive the small but relentless changes
because they are stupid.
You obviously are not willing to admit that you are stupid but
you most certainly are stupid.
The sad fact remains: one cannot fix stupid.
On 23/03/2026 18:16, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 23, 2026 at 9:23:49 AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<10prpel$9816$1@dont-email.me>:
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
It very much is warmer... look at the records.
Whose records...
The one produced by the interpolated data from cities
where urban heat ahas been increasing year on year?> Or the ones out in
the middle of nowhere that havent changed in decades?
We are heading down a BAD path.
Clinaet Derangement Syndrome
All The CO2 in the fossil fuels was originally in the air when those
fuels were created.
I mean, really!
And the oceans are being impacted more -- they have something like 90-95% of >> the extra heat. Much of it at depths. Would take a LONG time to re-regulate >> even if we grew a brain as a species and took things seriously now.Yawn. See a shrink, Tell him you have CDS and take some pills
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 16:23:49 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
I'm still waiting for the Ice Age.
Also, rain everywhere is now more intense, due to the naturalBullshit. FAR more likely they have built over the flood plains...and stopped dredging the rivers
increase in water vapor within a warming atmosphere. In my region,
nearly every rain period brings flood warnings -- and this was
completely unheard of in past years.
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 13:59:17 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
On 2026-03-23 12:23 p.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
What? I thought I was typing this from under five feet of water. Al Gore
promised me.
12,000 years ago I would be typing this under about 1200' of water. There
are markers on the trails at 4200', which is where they figure the
shoreline was.
On 2026-03-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 16:23:49 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
I'm still waiting for the Ice Age.
You missed the most recent Ice Age.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age>
On 2026-03-23 5:36 p.m., pothead wrote:
On 2026-03-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 16:23:49 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world >>>>> collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has >>>> not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
I'm still waiting for the Ice Age.
You missed the most recent Ice Age.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age>
Wow, it almost seems to suggest that climate is cyclical!
Your comment just reminded me that I recorded a "prehistory of Québec"
TV program which talks about what this province looked like thousands of years ago. I have yet to watch it, but I imagine that it is incredibly interesting. One thing's for sure: people weren't walking around staring
at their cell phones back then.
Wow, it almost seems to suggest that climate is cyclical!
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 19:29:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
Wow, it almost seems to suggest that climate is cyclical!
And sometimes shit happens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>wrote:
On 2026-03-23, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 23/03/2026 14:18, Jan Panteltje wrote:
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for
lots of official things. Some of those guys are good coders, so
maybe things will split. Reason was a more and more unreliable
US and MS Windows with all sorts of spyware.
There is a growing distrust of anything made in America...
It's about bloody time. I can't see how people can get so
paranoid about Chinese technology while simultaneously giving
all their personal information to U.S. tech oligarchs.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age>
Wow, it almost seems to suggest that climate is cyclical!
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 19:29:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
Wow, it almost seems to suggest that climate is cyclical!
And sometimes shit happens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
On 24 Mar 2026 01:44:05 GMT, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 19:29:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
Wow, it almost seems to suggest that climate is cyclical!
And sometimes shit happens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! Tweedle Dee and Tweedle
Dum are at it again.
The Mauna Loa Observatory proves beyond doubt that CO2 levels
are rapidly increasing over recent, i.e. non-historical times.
The recent documented decrease in arctic ice cover and the
consequent decrease in planetary albedo portend a positive
feedback mechanism then ensures global heating.
These are not cyclical phenomena.
The only shit that happens is that which is shared between the
queer escapades of Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
On 2026-03-23 3:45 p.m., rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 13:59:17 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
On 2026-03-23 12:23 p.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world >>>>> collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has >>>> not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
What? I thought I was typing this from under five feet of water. Al Gore >>> promised me.
12,000 years ago I would be typing this under about 1200' of water. There
are markers on the trails at 4200', which is where they figure the
shoreline was.
Your comment just reminded me that I recorded a "prehistory of Québec"
TV program which talks about what this province looked like thousands of years ago. I have yet to watch it, but I imagine that it is incredibly interesting. One thing's for sure: people weren't walking around staring
at their cell phones back then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Snowy_Mountains
Once you get on the ridge it's relatively flat with small rocks. One
caught my attention for some reason and when I picked it up to
examine it closer I realized I was looking at a marine fossil. It's a
long way from the ocean.
The other giveaway is that it is a limestone formation, unlike much
of the Rockies. That served to leave the range unmolested since even
the most fanatical miner doesn't go looking for gold in limestone.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 14:18:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for lots
of official things.
Some of those guys are good coders, so maybe things will split.
There have been many changes but in the beginning there was 'Software- und >System-Entwicklung'. Supposedly there was also word play on Konrad Zuse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Zuse
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>wrote:
On 23/03/2026 18:26, Distro Lackey wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 17:51:04 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
So global warming means cooling.
Climate change means "change." That is all.
And when it doesn't happen, what will they scare us with next?
It already *is* happening. Why do you think that there is so much
interest in the arctic? It's because the arctic is warming and
thus it will become more navigable to ships and more amenable to
mining and other economic exploitation.
The long hoped for "Northwest Passage" is now becoming a reality.
Last time the NW passage was open was 1912Well they shouldn't build so may renewables should they
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Passage>
In my region, major wind storms of 50-60 mph destructive winds
were a rarity. They occurred perhaps every 5 years. But now
they occur every 5 weeks, and in the past month it was every
5 days. The power companies are barely able to keep up with
the outages.
Nothing much has changed in the UK, or the arctic really
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of
them"
Margaret Thatcher
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for lots
of official things.
On 2026-03-24 3:55 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of
them"
Margaret Thatcher
I absolutely love this woman.
I don't know what bob is referring to, but it cant have been the sea.
Glacial lake, possibly
On 24/03/2026 01:36, rbowman wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Snowy_Mountains
Once you get on the ridge it's relatively flat with small rocks. One
caught my attention for some reason and when I picked it up to examine
it closer I realized I was looking at a marine fossil. It's a long way
from the ocean.
The other giveaway is that it is a limestone formation, unlike much of
the Rockies. That served to leave the range unmolested since even the
most fanatical miner doesn't go looking for gold in limestone.
But this is from far far longer ago than 12000 years. Before tectonics
raise the rockies and sierra nevada ..."
Montana was covered by a shallow sea, known as the Western Interior
Seaway, for significant periods during the Cretaceous period,
particularly around 75 million years ago. While parts were submerged as
early as the Jurassic, it was during the Late Cretaceous that a vast
seaway divided North America, covering much of the state.
On 3/23/2026 10:18 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for lots
of official things.
Keep hope alive!
A few German cities have been trying to adopt Linux and FOSS for more
than 20 years. Most of their efforts are a big FAIL and were rolled
back to Windows and MS Office.
Altogether the number of govt municipalities running on FOSS is truly minuscule.
GuhNoo hobbyware just can't compete.
In article <PQvwR.102087$362.35555@fx13.iad>,
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-24 3:55 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of
them"
Margaret Thatcher
I absolutely love this woman.
If you're (favorably) quoting M. Thatcher (or the USA equiv: R. Reagan), you're already TFG.
On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 08:20:01 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/03/2026 01:36, rbowman wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Snowy_Mountains
Once you get on the ridge it's relatively flat with small rocks. One
caught my attention for some reason and when I picked it up to examine
it closer I realized I was looking at a marine fossil. It's a long way
from the ocean.
The other giveaway is that it is a limestone formation, unlike much of
the Rockies. That served to leave the range unmolested since even the
most fanatical miner doesn't go looking for gold in limestone.
But this is from far far longer ago than 12000 years. Before tectonics
raise the rockies and sierra nevada ..."
Montana was covered by a shallow sea, known as the Western Interior
Seaway, for significant periods during the Cretaceous period,
particularly around 75 million years ago. While parts were submerged as
early as the Jurassic, it was during the Late Cretaceous that a vast
seaway divided North America, covering much of the state.
Yes. The 12000 year ago was a glacial lake.
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of
them"
Margaret Thatcher
I absolutely love this woman.
On 24/03/2026 18:30, Kenny McCormack wrote:
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:Oh dear oh dear. You've drink the Koolaid and gone into full class
On 2026-03-24 3:55 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of >>>> them"
Margaret Thatcher
I absolutely love this woman.
If you're (favorably) quoting M. Thatcher (or the USA equiv: R. Reagan),
you're already TFG.
hatred mode, juts like the Russians wanted you to go.
In article <PQvwR.102087$362.35555@fx13.iad>,
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-24 3:55 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of
them"
Margaret Thatcher
I absolutely love this woman.
If you're (favorably) quoting M. Thatcher (or the USA equiv: R. Reagan), you're already TFG.
On 2026-03-24 2:30 p.m., Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article <PQvwR.102087$362.35555@fx13.iad>,
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2026-03-24 3:55 a.m., The Natural Philosopher wrote:
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of >>>> them"
Margaret Thatcher
I absolutely love this woman.
If you're (favorably) quoting M. Thatcher (or the USA equiv: R. Reagan),
you're already TFG.
Thatcher was a hero.
DFS wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS:
On 3/23/2026 10:18 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for lots
of official things.
Keep hope alive!
A few German cities have been trying to adopt Linux and FOSS for more
than 20 years. Most of their efforts are a big FAIL and were rolled
back to Windows and MS Office.
Altogether the number of govt municipalities running on FOSS is truly
minuscule.
GuhNoo hobbyware just can't compete.
Not true. This issue is some of the people in power are completely
hooked into the Windows ecosystem.
It's not any kind of knock on
Linux technology. Just my opinion.
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world
collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has
not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
I grew up watching Cosmos and admiring Carl Sagan. Today, though, I
despise him and the shitstorm he caused while talking to the senate
about the calamity of technological improvements and 'greenhouse'
gasses.
I liked Montana when I saw it years ago. Almost empty of Americans and
those in it more of the sane kind.
DFS <nospam@dfs.com>wrote:
On 3/23/2026 10:18 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for lots
of official things.
Keep hope alive!
A few German cities have been trying to adopt Linux and FOSS for more
than 20 years. Most of their efforts are a big FAIL and were rolled
back to Windows and MS Office.
Altogether the number of govt municipalities running on FOSS is truly >minuscule.
GuhNoo hobbyware just can't compete.
On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 19:24:30 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I liked Montana when I saw it years ago. Almost empty of Americans and
those in it more of the sane kind.
Hey, we've got a million people in 147,000 sq miles. Just right. The UK is 94,354 sq miles with about 69 million. Must be asshole to belly button.
DFS <nospam@dfs.com>wrote:
On 3/23/2026 10:18 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for lots
of official things.
Keep hope alive!
A few German cities have been trying to adopt Linux and FOSS for more
than 20 years. Most of their efforts are a big FAIL and were rolled
back to Windows and MS Office.
Altogether the number of govt municipalities running on FOSS is truly
minuscule.
GuhNoo hobbyware just can't compete.
You just wait and see
Was just reading Germany is now also bringing its own low orbit mil satellites into space.
Sort of goodbye to Musk's Starlink, goodbye to US censorship.
As for my view of that MS thing:
Crap started when DRDOS was used in the early MS windows by some (like me). Then Billy The Gates wanted to make in non-compatible to avoid that.
He did, and it still is non-compatible with everything!
But they bought shares in hardware companies and then make ever more crap bloated new releases
so people have to buy ever more expensive hardware to do the same simple things with every new version
and are listened in on all they do by the windows CIA leaks.
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-03-25 2:43 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
DFS <nospam@dfs.com>wrote:
On 3/23/2026 10:18 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for lots >>>> of official things.
Keep hope alive!
A few German cities have been trying to adopt Linux and FOSS for more
than 20 years. Most of their efforts are a big FAIL and were rolled
back to Windows and MS Office.
Altogether the number of govt municipalities running on FOSS is truly
minuscule.
GuhNoo hobbyware just can't compete.
You just wait and see
Was just reading Germany is now also bringing its own low orbit mil satellites into space.
Sort of goodbye to Musk's Starlink, goodbye to US censorship.
As for my view of that MS thing:
Crap started when DRDOS was used in the early MS windows by some (like me). >> Then Billy The Gates wanted to make in non-compatible to avoid that.
He did, and it still is non-compatible with everything!
What I read is that the betas of Microsoft Windows 3.1 were incompatible >with DR-DOS but that the final release worked fine.
But they bought shares in hardware companies and then make ever more crap bloated new releases
so people have to buy ever more expensive hardware to do the same simple things with every new version
and are listened in on all they do by the windows CIA leaks.
This is a fact, and I brought it up before. The best example I can cite
for that is the 2013 MacBook Air I bought for $30. If you install the >operating system it came with and ignore all updates, the computer is
pretty decent even with its old processor and 4GB of RAM. Once those
updates are installed, it gets painfully slow. Add to that Apple's >prohibition of you being able to install anything from the Apple Store >because your MacOS is too old, and your fairly decent computer is
suddenly a paperweight... unless you download the software from other >sources and don't mind that it's open-source.
Even the 2015 gaming computer I gave away would have been very useful to >this day and run beautifully had Microsoft not required a TPM chip. The >4710HQ i7 in there wouldn't have made Windows 11 or the applications
within it noticeably slower than the computers purchased today.
--
CrudeSausage
Islam is poison, leftism is retardation.
On 3/24/2026 3:15 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
Not true. This issue is some of the people in power are completely
hooked into the Windows ecosystem.
If these powerful people were 'hooked', why would they commission
studies to investigate switching to FOSS, or actually do large-scale testing?
I think I know why they switched back to Windows: Ballmer bought them
all ski chalets out of his own pocket.
It's not any kind of knock on
Linux technology. Just my opinion.
Part of the problem is these European cities don't have cola advocate
and IT Sooperman Homer to lead the way:
"Then ask yourself why it /really/ took Munich 7 years to migrate 15,000 computers to Linux. With a small team of technicians and engineers, I
could have done that in less than six months, even allowing for complete re-engineering of otherwise "irreplaceable" proprietary components, and
I guarantee I would have come well under the budget Munich wasted, as
they stood around bitching and scratching their balls. Any company
claiming that isn't possible is simply lying (or incompetent)." - Homer
Sep 2010
what a gas
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>wrote:
On 2026-03-25 2:43 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
DFS <nospam@dfs.com>wrote:
On 3/23/2026 10:18 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
There seems to be a tendency for Germany starting using Linux for lots >>>> of official things.
Keep hope alive!
A few German cities have been trying to adopt Linux and FOSS for more
than 20 years. Most of their efforts are a big FAIL and were rolled
back to Windows and MS Office.
Altogether the number of govt municipalities running on FOSS is truly
minuscule.
GuhNoo hobbyware just can't compete.
You just wait and see
Was just reading Germany is now also bringing its own low orbit mil satellites into space.
Sort of goodbye to Musk's Starlink, goodbye to US censorship.
As for my view of that MS thing:
Crap started when DRDOS was used in the early MS windows by some (like me). >> Then Billy The Gates wanted to make in non-compatible to avoid that.
He did, and it still is non-compatible with everything!
What I read is that the betas of Microsoft Windows 3.1 were incompatible >with DR-DOS but that the final release worked fine.
But they bought shares in hardware companies and then make ever more crap bloated new releases
so people have to buy ever more expensive hardware to do the same simple things with every new version
and are listened in on all they do by the windows CIA leaks.
This is a fact, and I brought it up before. The best example I can cite
for that is the 2013 MacBook Air I bought for $30. If you install the >operating system it came with and ignore all updates, the computer is
pretty decent even with its old processor and 4GB of RAM. Once those
updates are installed, it gets painfully slow. Add to that Apple's >prohibition of you being able to install anything from the Apple Store >because your MacOS is too old, and your fairly decent computer is
suddenly a paperweight... unless you download the software from other >sources and don't mind that it's open-source.
Even the 2015 gaming computer I gave away would have been very useful to >this day and run beautifully had Microsoft not required a TPM chip. The >4710HQ i7 in there wouldn't have made Windows 11 or the applications
within it noticeably slower than the computers purchased today.
On Mar 23, 2026 at 1:05:06???PM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<10ps6di$f0i2$1@dont-email.me>:
On 23/03/2026 18:16, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Mar 23, 2026 at 9:23:49???AM MST, "The Natural Philosopher" wrote
<10prpel$9816$1@dont-email.me>:
On 23/03/2026 13:50, Distro Lackey wrote:
This trajectory, like climate change, is unstoppable,
and neither great nor a problem
and like climate change, the plebs will do nothing even as the world >>>>> collapses around them.
Ive been watching for 45 years and all the promised world collapse has >>>> not happened. Its not even noticeably warmer
It very much is warmer... look at the records.
Whose records...
Those from many group from around the world.
The one produced by the interpolated data from cities
where urban heat ahas been increasing year on year?> Or the ones out in
the middle of nowhere that havent changed in decades?
Records of temperature around the world... cities, non-cities, oceans, etc. There is MASSIVE amounts of data from many groups.
We are heading down a BAD path.
Clinaet Derangement Syndrome
All The CO2 in the fossil fuels was originally in the air when those
fuels were created.
And? Is someone saying otherwise? What is this in response to?
I mean, really!
You do not even know the topic well enough to know what you are arguing against.
And the oceans are being impacted more -- they have something like 90-95% ofYawn. See a shrink, Tell him you have CDS and take some pills
the extra heat. Much of it at depths. Would take a LONG time to re-regulate >>> even if we grew a brain as a species and took things seriously now.
Your ignorance is not a ME issue.
Yours is thoughYour ignorance is not a ME issue.
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