• Re: Another Kick In The Pants For Systemd

    From makendo@makendo@makendo.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue May 12 13:03:18 2026
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    As a fun side note: systemd-udev does not depend on systemd proper.

    Gentoo has used this quirk to their advantage when they decided to stop maintain and deprecate eudev. The replacement is a sorta sophiscated
    [build script] that strips out systemd and other unnecessary components
    (as dictated by the user) from systemd, only installing what the user
    needs.

    Not every systemd component can be stripped out this way though; they
    still maintain a fork of systemd-logind, with a weird loginctl shipping systemctl features like `loginctl reboot`. (Things might have changed
    though; I haven't used OpenRC Gentoo for a long time.)

    I wonder if other distros are willing to copy this approach.

    [build script]: https://codeberg.org/gentoo/gentoo/src/commit/e731e5ea8bc09b5e7cb49527cc8c487f7484a230/sys-apps/systemd-utils/systemd-utils-260.1-r1.ebuild

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  • From makendo@makendo@makendo.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue May 12 13:09:07 2026
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    Does anyone actually use Pipewire? I cannot see a reason.

    I guess you still live in 10 years ago? PipeWire implemented both the
    JACK and PulseAudio interfaces, and was good enough that it defeated
    every other player of the Audio Server Wars.

    Many distros default to PipeWire nowadays.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue May 12 05:49:42 2026
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    On Tue, 12 May 2026 13:09:07 +0800, makendo wrote:

    PipeWire implemented both the JACK and PulseAudio interfaces, and
    was good enough that it defeated every other player of the Audio
    Server Wars.

    Also I understand it does for video what PulseAudio does for audio.
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