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Jim Says:
2026-06-20 at 01:11

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The problem with outrage porn is that we already know the problem. The
question is, what is the solution? We did not vote our way into this mess
and we are not going to vote our way out of it. So outrage does not help.

So, since democracy is failing in its essential functions, as democracies always do in the end, the solution, is, as always, organized violence. So,
the question is, how shall it be organized?

Endlessly reminding us of the outrage of the day implies we are all agreed
that democracy works, and the solution is more democracy. Which is a lie. Obviously democracy has failed, and it is unlikely that it can be restored.
No one voted for what we now have, and no one would vote for what we now
have.

As John Adams, one of the founding fathers of the Republic and its second president told us:

"Democracy has never been and never can be so durable as aristocracy or monarchy; but while it lasts, it is more bloody than either. ... Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not
true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty. When clear prospects are opened before vanity, pride, avarice, or ambition, for their easy gratification, it is hard for the most considerate philosophers and
the most conscientious moralists to resist the temptation. Individuals
have conquered themselves. Nations and large bodies of men, never."

The criminalization of Marriage 1.0 and family is all judge made law and regulation. The criminalization of the modern corporate form and the legalization of fraud is all regulation. None of this came from the legislature, none of it was voted on by elected representatives, let alone
was a plank in a campaign platform. Did anyone vote for open borders? Did anyone vote to make crime legal and resistance to criminals illegal?

We never voted any of this stuff in and we cannot vote it out. The only question is how many cities need to burn in the course of fixing it.
Millions need to be killed, cities need to burn, and only organized violence can accomplish this, so the question now is, how shall it be organized?

The death of Democracy always ends in horrible destruction. Democracy has
died. The biggest issues were never on the ballot, and they are never going
to be on the ballot. No one voted for the destruction of marriage and
family, no one voted for open borders, no one voted to decriminalize crime,
no one voted to criminalize modern capitalism. Next up is horrible
destruction.

None of the issues that anyone actually cares about were ever on the ballot, none of them are ever going to be on the ballot, none of them were ever even before the legislature, therefore blood must flow.

We are on a path that ends in civil war or genocide. Currently headed into genocide. Need to change course into civil war.
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Jim Says:
2026-06-20 at 01:11

You are still on moderation, and if you do not pass the shill test further >comments from this email address will be silently deleted.

The problem with outrage porn is that we already know the problem. The >question is, what is the solution? We did not vote our way into this mess
and we are not going to vote our way out of it. So outrage does not help.

So, since democracy is failing in its essential functions, as democracies >always do in the end, the solution, is, as always, organized violence. So, >the question is, how shall it be organized?

Endlessly reminding us of the outrage of the day implies we are all agreed >that democracy works, and the solution is more democracy. Which is a lie. >Obviously democracy has failed, and it is unlikely that it can be restored. >No one voted for what we now have, and no one would vote for what we now >have.

As John Adams, one of the founding fathers of the Republic and its second >president told us:

"Democracy has never been and never can be so durable as aristocracy or monarchy; but while it lasts, it is more bloody than either. ... Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not
true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty. When clear prospects are opened before vanity, pride, avarice, or ambition, for their easy gratification, it is hard for the most considerate philosophers and the most conscientious moralists to resist the temptation. Individuals
have conquered themselves. Nations and large bodies of men, never."

The criminalization of Marriage 1.0 and family is all judge made law and >regulation. The criminalization of the modern corporate form and the >legalization of fraud is all regulation. None of this came from the >legislature, none of it was voted on by elected representatives, let alone >was a plank in a campaign platform. Did anyone vote for open borders? Did >anyone vote to make crime legal and resistance to criminals illegal?

We never voted any of this stuff in and we cannot vote it out. The only >question is how many cities need to burn in the course of fixing it.
Millions need to be killed, cities need to burn, and only organized violence >can accomplish this, so the question now is, how shall it be organized?

The death of Democracy always ends in horrible destruction. Democracy has >died. The biggest issues were never on the ballot, and they are never going >to be on the ballot. No one voted for the destruction of marriage and
family, no one voted for open borders, no one voted to decriminalize crime, >no one voted to criminalize modern capitalism. Next up is horrible >destruction.

None of the issues that anyone actually cares about were ever on the ballot, >none of them are ever going to be on the ballot, none of them were ever even >before the legislature, therefore blood must flow.

We are on a path that ends in civil war or genocide. Currently headed into >genocide. Need to change course into civil war.

I see that John Adams quote frequently, and I usually have no idea why
the person is pasting into their essay... this is one of those times.
In that 1814 letter, Adams is discussing our representative democracy
versus the pure democracy where *everyone* votes on *everything*. How
is that applicable to the rest of your essay?

There are many versions of that quote in various missives penned by
Adams; this one likely comes from an April 1814 letter to John Taylor
in response to Taylor's advocacy of a "pure democracy"

The rest of it makes scant sense to me.

You conclude: "We are on a path that ends in civil war or genocide.
Currently headed into genocide. Need to change course into civil war."

Are you suggesting that we put the issue of civil war on the ballot?

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