• Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expertadvice

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Tue Dec 23 22:51:48 2025
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    I look at an article like this <https://www.zdnet.com/article/lubuntu-versus-xubuntu/>, comparing two different GUIs on Ubuntu, and I immediately think “¿Por qué no los
    dos?”. Who says it has to be either/or? The only difference between
    the two Ubuntu “flavours” is the choice of packages on initial installation. They’re both the same distro underneath, and there’s
    nothing stopping you from installing both GUIs (not to mention all the
    others that come with Ubuntu), because they all come in the same
    standard repo, and switching between them is as easy as logging out
    and logging in again.
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  • From kouya@kouyaheika@canithesis.org to comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Dec 24 06:27:16 2025
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    Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    I look at an article like this <https://www.zdnet.com/article/lubuntu-versus-xubuntu/>, comparing two different GUIs on Ubuntu, and I immediately think “¿Por qué no los dos?”. Who says it has to be either/or? The only difference between
    the two Ubuntu “flavours” is the choice of packages on initial installation. They’re both the same distro underneath, and there’s nothing stopping you from installing both GUIs (not to mention all the
    others that come with Ubuntu), because they all come in the same
    standard repo, and switching between them is as easy as logging out
    and logging in again.

    Obligatory "your distro sucks" but if you are choosing between two Ubuntus, choose neither.
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Dec 24 13:24:43 2025
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    On 24/12/2025 12:27, kouya wrote:
    Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    I look at an article like this
    <https://www.zdnet.com/article/lubuntu-versus-xubuntu/>, comparing two
    different GUIs on Ubuntu, and I immediately think “¿Por qué no los
    dos?”. Who says it has to be either/or? The only difference between
    the two Ubuntu “flavours” is the choice of packages on initial
    installation. They’re both the same distro underneath, and there’s
    nothing stopping you from installing both GUIs (not to mention all the
    others that come with Ubuntu), because they all come in the same
    standard repo, and switching between them is as easy as logging out
    and logging in again.

    Obligatory "your distro sucks" but if you are choosing between two Ubuntus, choose neither.

    It's all part of Marxist dialectic technique : The ostensible purpose of
    the argument is to select between two or more options, but the real
    purpose is to change the agenda to that subject..

    My randomised .sig has selected the correct aphorism in this case.

    Its not about what you personally think, its about placing the subject
    in your consciousness and making you make choices about it that you
    haven't the courage to say 'I actually don't give a fuck' to.

    Likewise restricting the argument to Ubuntu suggests that no other
    distro is *even worth considering*. And that the choice of which flavour
    is in fact, important.

    I could probably get along famously with any modern distro. I simply
    keep using Mint 'because it was the one I arrived at first, that was
    good enough that I looked no further'

    And has continued to be.
    --
    "What do you think about Gay Marriage?"
    "I don't."
    "Don't what?"
    "Think about Gay Marriage."


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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Dec 24 19:08:24 2025
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    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:24:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Likewise restricting the argument to Ubuntu suggests that no other
    distro is *even worth considering*.

    Like a discussion about cars suggests that no other form of transport
    is *even worth considering*. Or mentioning Marxim suggests that no
    other political system is *even worth considering*.

    Or indeed, your participation in this thread, on this newsgroup,
    suggests that no other thread on any other newsgroup is *even worth considering*.
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Dec 25 02:21:24 2025
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    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:24:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I could probably get along famously with any modern distro. I simply
    keep using Mint 'because it was the one I arrived at first, that was
    good enough that I looked no further'

    My choice to put Ubuntu on the mini was entirely rational. I had a couple
    of other isos that weren't responding well and the Ubuntu one worked. When
    I revamped a couple of older machines I put different distros on them just
    for variety. I'm not a fan of Ubuntu GNOME but I can live with it.
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Dec 24 21:35:22 2025
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    On 12/24/25 21:21, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:24:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I could probably get along famously with any modern distro. I simply
    keep using Mint 'because it was the one I arrived at first, that was
    good enough that I looked no further'

    My choice to put Ubuntu on the mini was entirely rational. I had a couple
    of other isos that weren't responding well and the Ubuntu one worked. When
    I revamped a couple of older machines I put different distros on them just for variety. I'm not a fan of Ubuntu GNOME but I can live with it.

    Uhhgh ! I can't.

    LXDE remains my fave - JUST enough GUI, little CPU
    wasted on eye candy or other bullshit. Can't always
    get LXDE for every distro however, so XFCE comes
    in second ... but I add lxterminal and pcmanfm if
    at all possible.

    KDE ? No. Never.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Dec 25 03:26:52 2025
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    On 25/12/2025 02:21, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:24:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I could probably get along famously with any modern distro. I simply
    keep using Mint 'because it was the one I arrived at first, that was
    good enough that I looked no further'

    My choice to put Ubuntu on the mini was entirely rational. I had a couple
    of other isos that weren't responding well and the Ubuntu one worked. When
    I revamped a couple of older machines I put different distros on them just for variety. I'm not a fan of Ubuntu GNOME but I can live with it.

    I cant imagine being a 'fan' of any Linux...

    Pick one that works for you and let others do the same.
    --
    When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over
    the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
    authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

    Frédéric Bastiat

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  • From kouya@kouyaheika@canithesis.org to comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Dec 24 21:37:58 2025
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    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    It's all part of Marxist dialectic technique

    You are overthinking it. It's just a simple expression of hatred against Ubuntu. Nothing more.
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Dec 25 10:51:23 2025
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    On 2025-12-25, rbowman wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Dec 2025 13:24:43 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    I could probably get along famously with any modern distro. I simply
    keep using Mint 'because it was the one I arrived at first, that was
    good enough that I looked no further'

    My choice to put Ubuntu on the mini was entirely rational. I had a couple
    of other isos that weren't responding well and the Ubuntu one worked. When
    I revamped a couple of older machines I put different distros on them just for variety. I'm not a fan of Ubuntu GNOME but I can live with it.

    Funny thing, that's how my first distro got picked. Uknownst to me then,
    but knownst to me now, there was a step in the bootstrapping process of
    that machine which used an incorrect/incomplete and needless El Torito implementation (I should have just used the one in AMIBIOS
    directly...). This failed to boot a lot of install media (and also live
    media). IIRC I ended up going with the first that booted.
    --
    Nuno Silva
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Dec 25 11:46:40 2025
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    On 25/12/2025 03:37, kouya wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    It's all part of Marxist dialectic technique

    You are overthinking it. It's just a simple expression of hatred against Ubuntu. Nothing more.

    Er no, I was referring to the original comparison of two Ubuntus.
    --
    I was brought up to believe that you should never give offence if you
    can avoid it; the new culture tells us you should always take offence if
    you can. There are now experts in the art of taking offence, indeed
    whole academic subjects, such as 'gender studies', devoted to it.

    Sir Roger Scruton

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