• All the problems of French Philsophy...

    From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon May 11 19:00:01 2026
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    ...would not exist if they had written in German.

    It occurs to me that all the problems of various distros that fill this
    NG would not exist...
    ... if everybody installed Linux Mint.!
    --
    Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle
    more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump
    their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the
    battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is
    that they are dead.
    Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.
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  • From jayjwa@jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon May 11 14:11:23 2026
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    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

    It occurs to me that all the problems of various distros that fill
    this NG would not exist...
    ... if everybody installed Linux Mint.!
    You want everyone to use the noobist of noob distros? Ubuntu is Debian
    with training wheels. Mint is training wheels on the training
    wheels. The problem with Linux is that it stopped being hard. Now we
    have eternal september.
    --
    PGP Key ID: 781C A3E2 C6ED 70A6 B356 7AF5 B510 542E D460 5CAE
    "The Internet should always be the Wild West!"
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon May 11 11:34:32 2026
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    On 5/11/26 11:11, jayjwa wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

    It occurs to me that all the problems of various distros that fill
    this NG would not exist...
    ... if everybody installed Linux Mint.!
    You want everyone to use the noobist of noob distros? Ubuntu is Debian
    with training wheels. Mint is training wheels on the training
    wheels. The problem with Linux is that it stopped being hard. Now we
    have eternal september.


    And what pray tell is wrong with having Eternal-September though it lags behind
    me now in final December? The big problem was Windows® and MacOS®
    enabling thousands of ignorant people to get on the WWW.
    Some of us ignorant folks using other systems were educated by our contact
    with the WWW but others continued and did weird things to try to break
    what they
    did not understand.

    bliss
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@tnp@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon May 11 20:18:50 2026
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    On 11/05/2026 19:11, jayjwa wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:

    It occurs to me that all the problems of various distros that fill
    this NG would not exist...
    ... if everybody installed Linux Mint.!
    You want everyone to use the noobist of noob distros? Ubuntu is Debian
    with training wheels. Mint is training wheels on the training
    wheels.

    It is clear that the older users need the training wheels.
    Linux has simply become too difficult for them

    The problem with Linux is that it stopped being hard. Now we
    have eternal september.

    The problem with Linux gurus is that they have nothing to offer anyone
    any more.

    They have spent years trying to make people use Linux so they could hold court, but now everyone is using Linux (Mind) no one wants to hear them
    hold court any more. And they don't have to, because there aren't any complicated problems. With Mint.

    Some people want to enjoy the fuel injected transistorised ignition
    drive, not sit at the roadside in the rain unblocking a carburettor and setting their points...
    --
    “It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on
    intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into,
    we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a
    power-directed system of thought.”
    Sir Roger Scruton

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  • From John McCue@jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon May 11 20:57:09 2026
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    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 11/05/2026 19:11, jayjwa wrote:
    <snip>

    It is clear that the older users need the training wheels.
    Linux has simply become too difficult for them
    <snip>

    What is needed is one of the following:

    1. PC/Laptops comes pre-installed with a Linux Distro
    or a BSD
    2. PC/Laptops come without a pre-installed OS and the
    user Needs to purchase Windows or get a free Linux
    distro install.

    I would prefer # 2, but until Microsoft is forced to
    change its ways, Windows will be the most used OS.

    You can bet if people had to pay real $ for for Windows,
    hardly anyone would be using Windows these days.
    --
    [t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
    - Paraphrasing Star Wars
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  • From Rich@rich@example.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon May 11 21:33:38 2026
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    John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 11/05/2026 19:11, jayjwa wrote:
    <snip>

    It is clear that the older users need the training wheels.
    Linux has simply become too difficult for them
    <snip>

    What is needed is one of the following:

    1. PC/Laptops comes pre-installed with a Linux Distro
    or a BSD
    2. PC/Laptops come without a pre-installed OS and the
    user Needs to purchase Windows or get a free Linux
    distro install.

    I would prefer # 2, but until Microsoft is forced to
    change its ways, Windows will be the most used OS.

    You can bet if people had to pay real $ for for Windows,
    hardly anyone would be using Windows these days.

    There is a reason Gates, way back in the day, wrote his contracts for
    OEM's to install windows such that they could not offer computers
    without windows pre-installed.

    He understood full well that the typical purchaser would simply use
    whatever came with the box, and he made sure that something was mswin,
    thereby guaranteeing a sale for MS for every computer purchase. And he
    very likely, despite all the crowing to the contrary, knew full well
    that if the machines shipped bare, and the purchasers then had to
    separately pay for an OS (MSwin or otherwise) that he'd not get nearly
    as many sales as he got by force tying the two together.

    For most people, they are going to take the path of least resistance,
    and when every computer in every shop comes with windows almost every
    one of the purchasers is just going to "use what came with the box".

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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon May 11 15:05:48 2026
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    On 5/11/26 13:57, John McCue wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 11/05/2026 19:11, jayjwa wrote:
    <snip>

    It is clear that the older users need the training wheels.
    Linux has simply become too difficult for them
    <snip>

    What is needed is one of the following:

    1. PC/Laptops comes pre-installed with a Linux Distro
    or a BSD

    These are available from several suppliers. Look to Distowatch.com.
    2. PC/Laptops come without a pre-installed OS and the
    user Needs to purchase Windows or get a free Linux
    distro install.

    Well I get refurbished laptops out of Walmart and install PCLinuxOS
    on them which answers my needs.


    I would prefer # 2, but until Microsoft is forced to
    change its ways, Windows will be the most used OS.


    Linux is the most used OS these days but most of it is
    on servers or called Android.

    You can bet if people had to pay real $ for for Windows,
    hardly anyone would be using Windows these days.
    They use what they are somewhat familiar with from work
    which is in the USA almost always the Microsloth product.

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  • From not@not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) to comp.os.linux.misc on Tue May 12 08:24:19 2026
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    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    ...would not exist if they had written in German.

    It occurs to me that all the problems of various distros that fill this
    NG would not exist...
    ... if everybody installed Linux Mint.!

    Hardly. But of course you're free to unsubscribe from here and just
    use alt.os.linux.mint, where I guess nobody ever has any problems
    at all?
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon May 11 22:45:08 2026
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    On Mon, 11 May 2026 20:57:09 -0000 (UTC), John McCue wrote:

    What is needed is one of the following:

    1. PC/Laptops comes pre-installed with a Linux Distro or a BSD
    2. PC/Laptops come without a pre-installed OS and the user Needs
    to purchase Windows or get a free Linux distro install.

    Quite a few vendors offering one or the other: Dell, Lenovo,
    Framework, Tuxedo, System76 ...

    Have a look at this comparison
    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvYt1GgcsUI> with a MacBook Neo.
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon May 11 21:01:49 2026
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    Well ... it's FRENCH after all ! :-)

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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Mon May 11 22:33:44 2026
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    On 5/11/26 18:24, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    ...would not exist if they had written in German.

    It occurs to me that all the problems of various distros that fill this
    NG would not exist...
    ... if everybody installed Linux Mint.!

    Hardly. But of course you're free to unsubscribe from here and just
    use alt.os.linux.mint, where I guess nobody ever has any problems
    at all?

    Correct - MINT is perfect !!!

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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Tue May 12 03:58:16 2026
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    On Mon, 11 May 2026 19:00:01 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    ...would not exist if they had written in German.

    It occurs to me that all the problems of various distros that fill this
    NG would not exist...
    ... if everybody installed Linux Mint.!

    A French Heidegger would be a wonder to behold. Descartes did enough
    damage.
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  • From Steve Hayes@hayesstw@telkomsa.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Tue May 12 07:37:09 2026
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    On Mon, 11 May 2026 20:57:09 -0000 (UTC), John McCue
    <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    What is needed is one of the following:

    1. PC/Laptops comes pre-installed with a Linux Distro
    or a BSD
    2. PC/Laptops come without a pre-installed OS and the
    user Needs to purchase Windows or get a free Linux
    distro install.

    I would prefer # 2, but until Microsoft is forced to
    change its ways, Windows will be the most used OS.

    My present desktop computer, on which I'm typing this, came with no
    O/S as in #2.

    I restored my Acronis backups from the previous one, C & D drives on
    Drive 0 and E, F, & G drives on drive 1.

    It booted Windows XP and ran like nothing had happened,

    I then installed Fedora dual-boot from a DVD that came with a magazine
    and that ran fine too.

    But Windows XP didn't need you to phone home all the time to work.
    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Tue May 12 05:50:28 2026
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    On Tue, 12 May 2026 07:37:09 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

    I restored my Acronis backups from the previous one, C & D drives on
    Drive 0 and E, F, & G drives on drive 1.

    It booted Windows XP and ran like nothing had happened,

    Last I checked, OEM Windows licences are not transferable to a
    different machine.
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Tue May 12 02:17:32 2026
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    On 5/12/26 01:50, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Tue, 12 May 2026 07:37:09 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

    I restored my Acronis backups from the previous one, C & D drives on
    Drive 0 and E, F, & G drives on drive 1.

    It booted Windows XP and ran like nothing had happened,

    Last I checked, OEM Windows licences are not transferable to a
    different machine.

    Technically not. However M$ seems to have
    abandoned policing their Old Shit.

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