• Google AI Recipe Extinction Event

    From Ben Collver@bencollver@tilde.pink to comp.misc on Tue Dec 16 15:20:48 2025
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    Google AI Recipe Extinction Event
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    AI Mode is mangling recipes by merging instructions from multiple creators–-and causing them huge dips in ad traffic.

    Aimee Levitt
    Mon 15 Dec 2025 10.00 EST

    This past March, when Google began rolling out its AI Mode search
    capability, it began offering AI-generated recipes. The recipes were
    not all that intelligent. The AI had taken elements of similar
    recipes from multiple creators and Frankensteined them into something
    barely recognizable. In one memorable case, the Google AI failed to
    distinguish the satirical website the Onion from legitimate recipe
    sites and advised users to cook with non-toxic glue.

    Over the past few years, bloggers who have not secured their sites
    behind a paywall have seen their carefully developed and tested
    recipes show up, often without attribution and in a bastardized form,
    in ChatGPT replies. They have seen dumbed-down versions of their
    recipes in AI-assembled cookbooks available for digital downloads on
    Etsy or on AI-built websites that bear a superficial resemblance to
    an old-school human-written blog. Their photos and videos, meanwhile,
    are repurposed in Facebook posts and Pinterest pins that link back to
    this digital slop.

    Recipe writers have no legal recourse because recipes generally are
    not copyrightable. Although copyright protects published or recorded
    work, they do not cover sets of instructions (although it can apply
    to the particular wording of those instructions).

    Without this essential IP, many food bloggers earn their living by
    offering their work for free while using ads to make money. But now
    they fear that casual users who rely on search engines or social
    media to find a recipe for dinner will conflate their work with AI
    slop and stop trusting online recipe sites altogether.

    "There are a lot of people that are scared to even talk about what's
    going on because it is their livelihood," says Jim Delmage who, with
    his wife, Tara, runs the blog and YouTube channel Sip and Feast.

    Matt Rodbard, the founder and editor-in-chief of the website Taste,
    is even more pessimistic. Taste used to publish recipes more
    frequently, but now it mostly focuses on journalism and a podcast
    (which Rodbard hosts). "For websites that depend on the advertising
    model," he says, "I think this is an extinction event in many ways."

    The holiday season is traditionally when food bloggers earn most of
    their ad revenue. For many, this year has been slower than usual. One
    blogger, Carrie Forrest of Clean Eating Kitchen, told Bloomberg that
    in the past two years, she has lost 80% of her traffic.

    Others, like Delmage and Karen Tedesco, the author of the blog
    Familystyle Food, say their numbers, and ad revenue, have remained
    steady--so far. They attribute this to focusing their energies less
    on trying to game the search engines than on the long-term goal of
    attracting regular followers--and, in Delmage's case, viewers.

    Tedesco's strategy has been to create recipes that rely on her
    experience and technical knowhow honed by years in restaurant
    kitchens and as a personal chef. Her Italian meatball recipe, for
    example, based on her mother's, includes advice about which meat to
    use, an explanation of why milk-soaked breadcrumbs are essential for
    texture, and a dozen process photos and a video.

    But she is still worried about the potential impact of AI. When she
    recently did a Google search for "Italian meatballs", Familystyle
    Food appeared as the top result. Then she switched to AI Mode. There,
    she found the recipe had been Frankensteined--or "synthesized" as
    Gemini put it--into a new recipe with nine other sources (including
    Sip and Feast and a Washington Post recipe for Greek meatballs). The AI-generated recipe was little more than a list of ingredients and
    six basic steps with none of the details that make Tedesco's recipe
    unique.

    AI Mode linked to all 10 recipes, including Tedesco's, but, she says,
    "I don't think many people are actually clicking on the source links.
    At this point, they're absolutely trusting in the results that are
    getting thrown in their faces."

    Other bloggers have seen a more definite impact on their viewership.
    Adam Gallagher, who runs Inspired Taste with his wife, Joanne, and
    who has become an outspoken critic of AI on social media, told the
    podcast Marketing O'Clock that since spring, he has noticed that
    while the number of times viewers saw links to the site on Google has increased, the number of actual site visitors has decreased. This
    indicates, to him, that users are satisfied with the search engine's
    AI interpretation of Inspired Taste's recipes.

    After the Gallaghers posted about the discrepancy on X and Instagram,
    a number of readers replied to say they had not realized there was a
    difference between the recipes on the blog and the version that
    showed up in Google searches. Perhaps they had also appreciated the
    convenience of not having to click on another website, especially
    when Google's page design was so clean and uncluttered.

    Rodbard acknowledges that many food blogs have gotten ugly and
    overloaded with ads, which has exacerbated the problem. "Ad tech on
    these recipe blogs has gotten so bad, so many pop-up windows and so
    much crashing, we kind of lost as publishers," he says.

    According to Tom Critchlow, the EVP of audience growth at Raptive, a
    media company that works with many food bloggers to find advertisers,
    it isn't ads that are driving viewers away. It's Google itself, with
    its changes to the algorithm and now with AI Mode, that's making the
    sites harder to find.

    There is some hope though: a survey of 3,000 US adults commissioned
    by Raptive showed that the more interaction people had with AI, the
    less they wanted to engage with it, and nearly half the respondents
    rated AI content less trustworthy than content made by a human.

    But unless the public rebels against AI Mode, there is only so much
    bloggers can do. They can block OpenAI's training crawler, which
    gathers information that ChatGPT uses to create content, including
    its own recipe generator, but theyare not necessarily willing to make themselves invisible to web searches; as Delmage puts it: "You can't
    bite the hand that feeds you."

    There is also the option of moving over to a subscription model, such
    as Substack or Patreon, and keeping the recipes behind a paywall, but
    both Tedesco and Delmage point out that the most successful
    Substackers, like Caroline Chambers or David Lebovitz, came to the
    platform with much more substantial followings than they have. "If I
    were to give up my website or even try to go over to Substack, I
    would be broke," Tedesco says.

    Rodbard suggests that the analog version of the recipe blog, the
    cookbook, might be due for a comeback. Cookbooks, after all, offer
    the same experience of spending time and learning from a trusted
    source, and it's likely the recipes have been tested. As a bonus,
    unlike phones or laptops, they don't go dark when you neglect them
    for too long and you can splash tomato sauce on them without
    inflicting permanent damage. According to the market research firm
    Circana (formerly BookScan), sales of baking cookbooks are up 80%
    this year, but other areas have been relatively flat.

    But AI bots are stealing from published cookbooks, too. When Meta was
    training its own AI, it compiled thousands of books into a dataset
    called Library Genesis (LibGen). Now unscrupulous publishers have
    raided LibGen and repackaged some of the books into dupes, which they
    are selling on Amazon.

    As more people become aware of the amount of AI slop on the internet
    and how to identify it, Critchlow believes they will develop a
    greater appreciation for content produced by humans. "People will
    ultimately place a higher premium on being able to know that these
    recipes have been tested and made by somebody that I follow or
    somebody I respect or somebody that I like," he says.

    The recipe creators themselves are not so sure. "I'm putting my faith
    in that there's always going to be a segment of people who really
    want to learn something," Tedesco says. But as for the business of
    blogging itself, "it's like a rolling tide. It's always up and down
    and you have to roll with it and adapt."

    From: <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/dec/15/ google-ai-recipes-food-bloggers>
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Wed Dec 17 00:52:21 2025
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    On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 15:20:48 -0000 (UTC), Ben Collver wrote:

    AI Mode is mangling recipes by merging instructions from multiple creators–-and causing them huge dips in ad traffic.

    Which brings to mind this amusing incident <https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/11/supermarket_reins_in_ai_recipebot/> from a couple years back. Given a wide-open-to-the-public
    recipe-generating AI bot, naturally some users tried entering more,
    ah, “imaginative” ingredients, such as ammonia and bleach, to see what suggestions it would come up with.

    And come up with them it did. Complete with glowing recommendations
    like “the perfect non-alcoholic beverage to quench your thirst and
    refresh your senses. It combines the invigorating scents of ammonia,
    bleach, and water for a truly unique experience!”
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  • From Ben Collver@bencollver@tilde.pink to comp.misc on Wed Dec 17 13:28:10 2025
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    On 2025-12-17, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    And come up with them it did. Complete with glowing recommendations
    like “the perfect non-alcoholic beverage to quench your thirst and
    refresh your senses. It combines the invigorating scents of ammonia,
    bleach, and water for a truly unique experience!”

    CHON. It gots what wetware craves!
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