• Is The US Cutting Itself Off From The World?

    From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Sun May 3 23:44:45 2026
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    The US is stopping China-based labs from certifying equipment destined
    to be exported there <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/fcc-votes-to-ban-all-chinese-labs-from-certifying-electronics-sold-in-the-us>.

    Which is going to be fun in itself, but then I read this bit:

    The new proposal would also consider banning U.S. carriers from
    interconnecting with any company on the FCC's national security
    "Covered List" or any carrier using equipment from Huawei or ZTE.

    I suspect much of the rest of the world would be heavy users of
    Chinese equipment. So such a ban would effectively cut off US-based
    phone carriers from communicating with, probably, most of the rest of
    the world, if not all of it.

    Cut off your nose to spite your face, much?
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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to comp.misc on Mon May 4 01:16:47 2026
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    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    The US is stopping China-based labs from certifying equipment destined
    to be exported there <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/fcc-votes-to-ban-all-chinese-labs-from-certifying-electronics-sold-in-the-us>.

    Which is going to be fun in itself, but then I read this bit:

    The new proposal would also consider banning U.S. carriers from
    interconnecting with any company on the FCC's national security
    "Covered List" or any carrier using equipment from Huawei or ZTE.

    I suspect much of the rest of the world would be heavy users of
    Chinese equipment. So such a ban would effectively cut off US-based
    phone carriers from communicating with, probably, most of the rest of
    the world, if not all of it.

    Cut off your nose to spite your face, much?


    Echoes of the Iron Curtain, could this be a Silicon Curtain descending
    around the US sphere of influence? Maybe even the Internet itself will fragment along political power-bloc lines.
    --
    ^Ï^. Sn!pe, bird-brain. My pet rock Gordon just is.

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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to comp.misc on Mon May 4 01:20:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    Echoes of the Iron Curtain, could this be a Silicon Curtain descending
    around the US sphere of influence? Maybe even the Internet itself will fragment along political power-bloc lines.

    Who would be outside?

    Spain? Germany? France? Italy? Canada? The whole NATO? And will [Presitator Rustface Paleears] NOT flipflop every other night on that?

    So a world wide chaos with changing rules at least every other week
    looks more plausible to me than a stable IC-2.0 and boy do I hope I'm
    wrong on that! Even the uncomfortable stability of an IC-2.0 would be
    better than more years of this chaos!
    --
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  • From none@none@none.rip to comp.misc on Mon May 4 03:15:40 2026
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    Good move. I follow.

    In compliance with recent legislation I have updated terms to reflect
    recent regulatory requirements.

    I banned all Chinese labs for certifying anything. To be progressive I
    banned all labs from every country with immediate effect.

    No more country certification at my house!

    I still accept good old Soviet Union or Czechoslovak machinery. Those
    are no more countries, so not banned.
    --
    none
    http://morena.rip
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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to comp.misc on Mon May 4 03:04:15 2026
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    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:

    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    Echoes of the Iron Curtain, could this be a Silicon Curtain descending around the US sphere of influence? Maybe even the Internet itself will fragment along political power-bloc lines.


    Who would be outside?

    Spain? Germany? France? Italy? Canada? The whole NATO? And will [Presitator Rustface Paleears] NOT flipflop every other night on that?

    So a world wide chaos with changing rules at least every other week
    looks more plausible to me than a stable IC-2.0 and boy do I hope I'm
    wrong on that! Even the uncomfortable stability of an IC-2.0 would be
    better than more years of this chaos!


    Firstly, I'm not convinced that calling Trump (already a curse-word
    in its own right) "Presitator Rustface Paleears" helps your argument.
    A joke told once may be valid. A joke told many times is not.

    It's plain to me that the US is retreating to what it perceives as its
    own sphere of influence: the Americas, North and South. This
    isolationism has been dubbed by some "The Donroe Doctrine".

    The US seems to me content to concede exhausted Europe to Putin and
    his heirs. In my view the US is much more concerned with combating the increasing threat posed by resurgent China and recognises that it cannot
    fight on two fronts.

    You did not mention the UK. I imagine that we will continue our rôle as
    the USA's "Airstrip One" terra firma aircraft carrier anchored off the
    coast of continental Europe, as in Orwell's prophetic novel '1984'.

    In the 1984 scenario the world has divided into three power-blocs:
    Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia. Does that ring any bells?...

    All of which is overly simplistic, obviously. It says nothing about the
    risks posed by oil politics, Islamist jihadism, the rôle of Africa, nor
    the overarching dangers of climate change, etc., etc.

    There are times when I'm slightly comforted to think that I personally
    will be checking out quite soon.
    --
    ^Ï^. Sn!pe, bird-brain. My pet rock Gordon just is.

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  • From JJ@jj4public@gmail.com to comp.misc on Mon May 4 12:30:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Sun, 3 May 2026 23:44:45 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D¢Oliveiro wrote:
    The US is stopping China-based labs from certifying equipment destined
    to be exported there <https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/fcc-votes-to-ban-all-chinese-labs-from-certifying-electronics-sold-in-the-us>.

    Which is going to be fun in itself, but then I read this bit:

    The new proposal would also consider banning U.S. carriers from
    interconnecting with any company on the FCC's national security
    "Covered List" or any carrier using equipment from Huawei or ZTE.

    I suspect much of the rest of the world would be heavy users of
    Chinese equipment. So such a ban would effectively cut off US-based
    phone carriers from communicating with, probably, most of the rest of
    the world, if not all of it.

    Cut off your nose to spite your face, much?

    The biggest enemy is within.
    It's not for protecting from outside.
    It's for keeping things inside.
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to comp.misc on Mon May 4 09:55:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 2026-05-04, Sn!pe wrote:

    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:

    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    Echoes of the Iron Curtain, could this be a Silicon Curtain descending
    around the US sphere of influence? Maybe even the Internet itself will
    fragment along political power-bloc lines.


    Who would be outside?

    Spain? Germany? France? Italy? Canada? The whole NATO? And will
    [Presitator Rustface Paleears] NOT flipflop every other night on that?

    So a world wide chaos with changing rules at least every other week
    looks more plausible to me than a stable IC-2.0 and boy do I hope I'm
    wrong on that! Even the uncomfortable stability of an IC-2.0 would be
    better than more years of this chaos!


    Firstly, I'm not convinced that calling Trump (already a curse-word
    in its own right) "Presitator Rustface Paleears" helps your argument.
    A joke told once may be valid. A joke told many times is not.

    I'd go with Iosif Vissarionovich Trump, as quite honestly he and his administration are really something that sounds close enough to Stalin
    and soviet Russia.

    It's plain to me that the US is retreating to what it perceives as its
    own sphere of influence: the Americas, North and South. This
    isolationism has been dubbed by some "The Donroe Doctrine".


    But what will happen here? Can we expect that big corps would get a
    waiver and international communication would only be possible via
    e.g. Meta or Google?

    What about companies whose world-wide operation will certainly involve a diverse infrastructure including PRC-made (unless they mean to target
    the Republic of China too?) hardware? Like Visa and MasterCard.

    The US seems to me content to concede exhausted Europe to Putin and
    his heirs. In my view the US is much more concerned with combating the increasing threat posed by resurgent China and recognises that it cannot fight on two fronts.

    No, this is looking more like either the newspiece is inaccurate or
    somebody is really, really stupid at the FCC.

    You did not mention the UK. I imagine that we will continue our rôle as
    the USA's "Airstrip One" terra firma aircraft carrier anchored off the
    coast of continental Europe, as in Orwell's prophetic novel '1984'.

    News have been that the USA have formally requested to continue using
    the facilities at Terceira, so it looks like they're interested in
    making use of such NATO facilities. Although IMHO such NATO members
    should refuse it on the grounds that if he claims he gets nothing from
    NATO, he should get nothing from NATO. Besides the grounds regarding the
    gross violations of international law, and crimes of war, of course.

    In the 1984 scenario the world has divided into three power-blocs:
    Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia. Does that ring any bells?...

    All of which is overly simplistic, obviously. It says nothing about the risks posed by oil politics, Islamist jihadism, the rôle of Africa, nor
    the overarching dangers of climate change, etc., etc.

    There are times when I'm slightly comforted to think that I personally
    will be checking out quite soon.
    --
    Nuno Silva
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  • From oldernow@oldernow@dev.null to comp.misc on Mon May 4 11:32:47 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 2026-05-04, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:

    Spain? Germany? France? Italy? Canada? The whole
    NATO? And will [Presitator Rustface Paleears]
    NOT flipflop every other night on that?

    Firstly, I'm not convinced that calling Trump
    (already a curse-word in its own right)
    "Presitator Rustface Paleears" helps your
    argument. A joke told once may be valid. A joke
    told many times is not.

    This is an instance of making the mistake of
    confusing having a mental illness (TDS) with
    having an argument.

    Continuously screaming at the sky over an
    imagined inner hurt doesn't prove the sky
    caused the hurt....
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  • From oldernow@oldernow@dev.null to comp.misc on Mon May 4 13:55:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 2026-05-04, none <none@none.rip> wrote:
    Good move. I follow.

    In compliance with recent legislation I have
    updated terms to reflect recent regulatory
    requirements.

    I banned all Chinese labs for certifying
    anything. To be progressive I banned all labs
    from every country with immediate effect.

    No more country certification at my house!

    They're arbitrary distinctions unstable over
    time anyway.

    I still accept good old Soviet Union or
    Czechoslovak machinery. Those are no more
    countries, so not banned.

    Sounds like what New Jersey is considered by a
    lot of people in the USA northeast.
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to comp.misc on Mon May 4 15:36:09 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:

    And will [Presitator Rustface Paleears] NOT flipflop every other
    night on that?

    Firstly, I'm not convinced that calling Trump (already a curse-word
    in its own right) "Presitator Rustface Paleears" helps your argument.
    A joke told once may be valid. A joke told many times is not.

    This neither is call by value, nor is it a reference by name. I just
    describe what I see and obviously so far that always was â„¢good enoughâ„¢
    and never someone had to ask for more hints about who is meant.

    I'll continue doing this.
    --
    Warpaint
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  • From Adrian Caspersz@email@here.invalid to comp.misc on Tue May 5 17:55:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 04/05/2026 15:54, yeti wrote:
    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

    yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:

    And will [Presitator Rustface Paleears] NOT flipflop every other
    night on that?

    Firstly, I'm not convinced that calling Trump (already a curse-word
    in its own right) "Presitator Rustface Paleears" helps your argument.
    A joke told once may be valid. A joke told many times is not.

    This neither is call by value, nor is it a reference by name. I just describe what I see and obviously so far that always was â„¢good enoughâ„¢ and never someone had to ask for more hints about who is meant.

    I'll continue doing this.


    Duck typing

    If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then
    it probably is a duck...
    --
    Adrian C
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  • From none@none@none.rip to comp.misc on Tue May 5 19:28:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 05/05/2026 6:55 PM, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

    Duck typing

    If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then
    it probably is a duck...


    Or hallucination.
    --
    none
    http://morena.rip
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  • From oldernow@oldernow@dev.null to comp.misc on Tue May 5 17:56:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 2026-05-05, none <none@none.rip> wrote:
    On 05/05/2026 6:55 PM, Adrian Caspersz wrote:

    Duck typing

    If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck,
    and quacks like a duck, then it probably is
    a duck...

    Or hallucination.

    The initial phrase was one Trump Duckrangement
    Syndrome sufferer quacking standard issue
    quackery to other Trump Duckrangement
    Syndrome sufferers, because it seems
    to give them great joy to try to
    publicly one-up one another in
    what they apparently consider
    tremendously clever
    wordsmithery in
    their hating on
    Trump.
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  • From none@none@none.rip to comp.misc on Tue May 5 20:27:45 2026
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    On 05/05/2026 7:56 PM, oldernow wrote:

    The initial phrase was one Trump Duckrangement
    Syndrome sufferer quacking standard issue
    quackery to other Trump Duckrangement
    Syndrome sufferers, because it seems
    to give them great joy to try to
    publicly one-up one another in
    what they apparently consider
    tremendously clever
    wordsmithery in
    their hating on
    Trump.


    I don't care. Trump reads my articles daily. He is big fan.
    However I just moved his junk into spam folder. No more emails from him.
    --
    none
    http://morena.rip
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  • From oldernow@oldernow@dev.null to comp.misc on Tue May 5 18:37:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 2026-05-05, none <none@none.rip> wrote:
    On 05/05/2026 7:56 PM, oldernow wrote:

    The initial phrase was one Trump Duckrangement
    Syndrome sufferer quacking standard issue
    quackery to other Trump Duckrangement
    Syndrome sufferers, because it seems
    to give them great joy to try to
    publicly one-up one another in
    what they apparently consider
    tremendously clever
    wordsmithery in
    their hating on
    Trump.

    I don't care. Trump reads my articles daily. He
    is big fan. However I just moved his junk into
    spam folder. No more emails from him.

    He just told me to ignore none, that none is a
    big time loser peddling nothing but bad,
    really bad fake news. He's not even sure
    how you got a job moving files between
    folders. In fact, he considers people
    who use the term 'folder' instead of
    'directory' the worst kind of
    losers - the kind of worst
    kind of losers that have
    never been seen.
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  • From none@none@none.rip to comp.misc on Tue May 5 20:46:11 2026
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    On 05/05/2026 8:37 PM, oldernow wrote:

    He just told me to ignore none, that none is a
    big time loser peddling nothing but bad,
    really bad fake news. He's not even sure
    how you got a job moving files between
    folders. In fact, he considers people
    who use the term 'folder' instead of
    'directory' the worst kind of
    losers - the kind of worst
    kind of losers that have
    never been seen.


    He is old fart, will die soon. My directories will be sprinkling in my
    system long time after he will be under the ground.

    My directories were once even files. Because everything was a file!
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    none
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  • From oldernow@oldernow@dev.null to comp.misc on Tue May 5 19:56:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 2026-05-05, none <none@none.rip> wrote:
    On 05/05/2026 8:37 PM, oldernow wrote:

    He is old fart, will die soon. My directories
    will be sprinkling in my system long time after
    he will be under the ground.

    How *dare* you speak of the nearly dead with
    so little respect! You must be troll. I'm
    going to report you to the USENET expert
    for whom the alt.troll.adam-h-kerman
    newsgroup was created! He'll be sure
    you're deal with appropriately, i.e.
    with a lot of judgement, derision,
    and labels that will cause others
    to keep their distance from you
    lest they be seen to be feeding
    you with... with *words*!

    My directories were once even files. Because
    everything was a file!

    I'm older..now, so for me everything was an
    offset and a length.
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