• what was nice about Win2k UI

    From Retrograde@fungus@amongus.com.invalid to comp.misc on Sat Jun 20 03:33:23 2026
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    From the «UI experts made it worse?» department:
    Feed: OSnews
    Title: What was nice about the UI of Windows 2000
    Author: Thom Holwerda
    Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2026 20:21:34 +0000
    Link: https://www.osnews.com/story/145346/what-was-nice-about-the-ui-of-windows-2000/

    I mean, this is preaching to the choir, but let’s go anyway.

    I liked the UIs of the entire era from 3.0 to 2000, really. I’m mostly
    using Windows 2000 as an example here because it runs so well in
    QEMU/KVM and that allows me to easily take screenshots.

    Some of the following will sound absolutely trivial, but I think it’s
    worth pointing out.
    ↫ movq.de blog[1]

    Just a series of observations about how much better graphical user
    interfaces were back in the ’90s and early 2000s. We’ve lost so many affordances based on both common sense and scientific study, and what we
    ended up with is a confusing, inconsistent mess. It doesn’t really
    matter where you look – user interface design has deteriorated since the early 2000s, a decline that only accelerated thanks to the arrival of
    the iPhone, where consistency is a dirty word, and the web, where the advertising people took prominence over the design people.

    I just want my buttons to look like buttons man.

    Links:
    [1]: https://movq.de/blog/postings/2026-06-16/0/POSTING-en.html (link)

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Sat Jun 20 04:01:46 2026
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    On 20 Jun 2026 03:33:23 GMT, Retrograde wrote:

    Just a series of observations about how much better graphical user
    interfaces were back in the ’90s and early 2000s.

    They haven’t gone away. The *nix platforms (Linux, BSD) still offer a
    choice of GUIs from that era, and even earlier. They can do that
    because the GUI is not inextricably bound into the OS kernel.

    Why not give some of them a spin?
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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@not@telling.you.invalid to comp.misc on Sat Jun 20 17:00:14 2026
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    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2026 03:33:23 GMT, Retrograde wrote:
    Just a series of observations about how much better graphical user
    interfaces were back in the '90s and early 2000s.

    They haven't gone away. The *nix platforms (Linux, BSD) still offer a
    choice of GUIs from that era, and even earlier. They can do that
    because the GUI is not inextricably bound into the OS kernel.

    The start menu and taskbar was part of explorer.exe back then and
    could be replaced with alternatives (I don't know about in modern
    Windows).
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  • From JJ@jj4public@gmail.com to comp.misc on Sat Jun 20 15:33:25 2026
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    On 20 Jun 2026 03:33:23 GMT, Retrograde wrote:

    From the «UI experts made it worse?» department:
    Feed: OSnews
    Title: What was nice about the UI of Windows 2000
    Author: Thom Holwerda
    Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2026 20:21:34 +0000
    Link: https://www.osnews.com/story/145346/what-was-nice-about-the-ui-of-windows-2000/

    I mean, this is preaching to the choir, but let’s go anyway.

    I liked the UIs of the entire era from 3.0 to 2000, really. I’m mostly using Windows 2000 as an example here because it runs so well in
    QEMU/KVM and that allows me to easily take screenshots.

    Some of the following will sound absolutely trivial, but I think it’s
    worth pointing out.
    ↫ movq.de blog[1]

    Just a series of observations about how much better graphical user
    interfaces were back in the ’90s and early 2000s. We’ve lost so many affordances based on both common sense and scientific study, and what we ended up with is a confusing, inconsistent mess. It doesn’t really
    matter where you look – user interface design has deteriorated since the early 2000s, a decline that only accelerated thanks to the arrival of
    the iPhone, where consistency is a dirty word, and the web, where the advertising people took prominence over the design people.

    I just want my buttons to look like buttons man.

    Links:
    [1]: https://movq.de/blog/postings/2026-06-16/0/POSTING-en.html (link)

    The worst about "modern" UI is that, it's aggresively not
    keyboard-accessible. The more cool/beutiful it looks, the less keyboard-accessible it is.
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  • From Rich@rich@example.invalid to comp.misc on Sat Jun 20 16:46:49 2026
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    JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2026 03:33:23 GMT, Retrograde wrote:

    From the «UI experts made it worse?» department:
    Feed: OSnews
    Title: What was nice about the UI of Windows 2000
    Author: Thom Holwerda
    Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2026 20:21:34 +0000
    Link: https://www.osnews.com/story/145346/what-was-nice-about-the-ui-of-windows-2000/

    I mean, this is preaching to the choir, but let’s go anyway.

    I liked the UIs of the entire era from 3.0 to 2000, really. I’m mostly
    using Windows 2000 as an example here because it runs so well in
    QEMU/KVM and that allows me to easily take screenshots.

    Some of the following will sound absolutely trivial, but I think it’s
    worth pointing out.
    ↫ movq.de blog[1]

    Just a series of observations about how much better graphical user
    interfaces were back in the ’90s and early 2000s. We’ve lost so many
    affordances based on both common sense and scientific study, and what we
    ended up with is a confusing, inconsistent mess. It doesn’t really
    matter where you look – user interface design has deteriorated since the >> early 2000s, a decline that only accelerated thanks to the arrival of
    the iPhone, where consistency is a dirty word, and the web, where the
    advertising people took prominence over the design people.

    I just want my buttons to look like buttons man.

    Links:
    [1]: https://movq.de/blog/postings/2026-06-16/0/POSTING-en.html (link)

    The worst about "modern" UI is that, it's aggresively not keyboard-accessible. The more cool/beutiful it looks, the less keyboard-accessible it is.

    Also, there are only three colors that can ever be used for coloring
    all UI affordances: 100% white, 99% white and 97% grey. Such that if
    one does not have a $1500.00 HDR iphone screen, everything just looks
    "white" and nothing can be seen.


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