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🇳🇿 tenants are increasingly using ChatGPT to help them write
complaints for submission to the Tenancy Tribunal <https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/zero-to-100-chatgpt-disputes-clogging-up-the-rental-system-agents-warn-of-price-hikes-49682>,
and this is not always a good thing. The closing lines sum it up best:

However, [Tenancy Advisory director Sarina Gibbon] describes AI as
an amplifier, not an equaliser.

“If you have a Tribunal case that has merit and understand how the
law applies to your situation, AI can amplify that. But if you
have a weak case and little understanding of tenancy law, AI will
amplify that too.”

How does a user tell whether they’re on the right track or completely
the wrong one? AI will happily drive them further in the same
direction, regardless ...
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Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:

🇳🇿 tenants are increasingly using ChatGPT to help them write
complaints for submission to the Tenancy Tribunal <https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/zero-to-100-chatgpt-disputes-clogging-up-the-rental-system-agents-warn-of-price-hikes-49682>,
and this is not always a good thing. The closing lines sum it up best:

However, [Tenancy Advisory director Sarina Gibbon] describes AI as
an amplifier, not an equaliser.

“If you have a Tribunal case that has merit and understand how the
law applies to your situation, AI can amplify that. But if you
have a weak case and little understanding of tenancy law, AI will
amplify that too.”

How does a user tell whether they’re on the right track or completely
the wrong one? AI will happily drive them further in the same
direction, regardless ...

They don’t seem to be able to say “no”.

Two experiences:

ChatGPT has at some point learned to count the number of Rs in the word strawberry. But while exploring this, I asked it increasingly
nonsensical questions (like “which eight days of the week have a Q
in?”). Although it consistently got the numeric part of the answer
right, it continued to generate responses stating that I was engaging in wordplay - rather than just asking it stupid questions. A human with any
common sense whatsoever would have told me to stop being so silly.

That’s just mucking around, but the other one was an attempt to get
something somewhat useful done:

https://blog.trailofbits.com/2026/06/12/factoring-short-sleeve-rsa-keys-with-polynomials/
publishes a couple of weak RSA public keys, in the form of a
screenshot. I wanted to have a play to see if I could reproduce pattern
1 from a plausible key generation strategy (bugs in key generation are professionally relevant to me), and didn’t fancy copy-typing 512-digit numbers, so I asked Copilot to do it for me. It identified immediately
that there were two columns, but struggled with two things: the exact boundaries between them, and the zero digits, which I never got it to
reproduce at all. I spent several iterations pointing out its mistake,
and each time it generated a response apologizing and stating it would
be more careful, and then getting output wrong in the essentially the
same way again. Obviously after a few tries I gave up and copy-typed
pattern 1 myself: it would all have been much quicker if it had admitted
from the start that it couldn’t do this task that a child could have
easily achieved.
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On 2026-06-21, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: .....snip....

https://blog.trailofbits.com/2026/06/12/factoring-short-sleeve-rsa-keys-with->
publishes a couple of weak RSA public keys, in the form of a
screenshot. I wanted to have a play to see if I could reproduce pattern
1 from a plausible key generation strategy (bugs in key generation are professionally relevant to me), and didn???t fancy copy-typing 512-digit numbers, so I asked Copilot to do it for me. It identified immediately
that there were two columns, but struggled with two things: the exact boundaries between them, and the zero digits, which I never got it to reproduce at all. I spent several iterations pointing out its mistake,
and each time it generated a response apologizing and stating it would
be more careful, and then getting output wrong in the essentially the
same way again. Obviously after a few tries I gave up and copy-typed
pattern 1 myself: it would all have been much quicker if it had admitted
from the start that it couldn???t do this task that a child could have
easily achieved.

Surely OCR? Or am I missing something?

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Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> writes:

Surely OCR? Or am I missing something?

The point is not the specific task as such, the point is:

| They don’t seem to be able to say “no”.

It couldn’t satisfy the request, but it was also not capable of
generating an admission that it couldn’t satisfy the request.
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On 2026-06-21, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> writes:

Surely OCR? Or am I missing something?

The point is not the specific task as such, the point is:

| They don???t seem to be able to say ???no???.

It couldn???t satisfy the request, but it was also not capable of
generating an admission that it couldn???t satisfy the request.

Yes, of course.

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