• Re: Listening to Radio Thru the Browser (it shuts off)

    From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 03:33:20 2026
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    Andy Burns wrote:
    Siard wrote:

    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
    with Google....

    In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

    I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me...
    1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.
    2. MPV also has no ads, no analytics, no Google dependencies.
    3. RadioDroid lets you extract direct stream URLs without trackers.

    Since this is off topic, I opened a separate thread on the privacy aspect.

    Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
    Subject: How to listen to an Internet radio station with privacy from Google?
    Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 03:29:36 -0600
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  • From Richmond@dnomhcir@gmx.com to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 11:23:04 2026
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    croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> writes:

    When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts
    off after a few minutes.

    Is that shut off preventable?

    If you are listening in a fixed location, like I used to do with the
    phone plugged into a hifi, then you can switch on developer mode, and
    set it so it doesn't go into standby. You have to leave it connected to
    the charger.

    Also maybe check battery saving generally, and on the browser.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 12:36:17 2026
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    On 2026-04-13 10:08, Andy Burns wrote:
    Siard wrote:

    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
    with Google....

    In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

    Indeed.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 12:36:26 2026
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    On 2026-04-13 10:01, Siard wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
    with Google....

    Huh?
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 12:37:54 2026
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    On 2026-04-13 11:33, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:
    Siard wrote:

    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
    with Google....

    In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

    I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me...
    1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.

    Certainly. The problem is finding out the URL.

    2. MPV also has no ads, no analytics, no Google dependencies.
    3. RadioDroid lets you extract direct stream URLs without trackers.

    Since this is off topic, I opened a separate thread on the privacy aspect.

    Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
    Subject: How to listen to an Internet radio station with privacy from Google?
    Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 03:29:36 -0600
    Message-ID: <10rid20$30no$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
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    Cheers, Carlos.
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  • From Siard@saylor259@mailbox.org to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 12:52:24 2026
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    Carlos E.R.:
    Siard:
    Carlos E.R.:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared with Google....

    Huh?

    I have the 'Google Teller' extension in Firefox and the 'Google Surveillance Detector' extension in Vivaldi (Chrome Web Store), telling me that 'Google monitors you in this domain'.
    In the source code, 'googletag' is mentioned many times.
    However, I must say that I am not an expert on this, so I can't say exactly what's going on.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 13:50:09 2026
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    On 2026-04-13 12:52, Siard wrote:
    Carlos E.R.:
    Siard:
    Carlos E.R.:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared
    with Google....

    Huh?

    I have the 'Google Teller' extension in Firefox and the 'Google Surveillance Detector' extension in Vivaldi (Chrome Web Store), telling me that 'Google monitors you in this domain'.
    In the source code, 'googletag' is mentioned many times.
    However, I must say that I am not an expert on this, so I can't say exactly what's going on.

    Well, google tracks almost every web page through their adverts and
    scripts. As far as knowing the station, that's... peculiar.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 15:21:13 2026
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    Am 13.04.26 um 13:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
    On 2026-04-13 12:52, Siard wrote:
    Carlos E.R.:
    Siard:
    Carlos E.R.:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>>> with Google....

    Huh?

    I have the 'Google Teller' extension in Firefox and the 'Google Surveillance >> Detector' extension in Vivaldi (Chrome Web Store), telling me that 'Google >> monitors you in this domain'.
    In the source code, 'googletag' is mentioned many times.
    However, I must say that I am not an expert on this, so I can't say exactly >> what's going on.

    Well, google tracks almost every web page through their adverts and
    scripts. As far as knowing the station, that's... peculiar.

    Use the extension NoScript with Firefox.

    http://noscript.net/

    Not recommended for beginners.
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  • From Dave Royal@dave@dave123royal.com to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 18:33:09 2026
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    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:

    On 2026-04-13 11:33, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:
    Siard wrote:

    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>>> with Google....

    In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

    I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me...
    1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.

    Certainly. The problem is finding out the URL.

    I have often done that that by using Firefox developer tools (F12
    - on the desktop version of Firefox) Network tab.
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 18:56:22 2026
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    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-04-13 11:33, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:
    Siard wrote:

    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>> with Google....

    In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

    I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me...
    1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.

    Certainly. The problem is finding out the URL.

    A long, long time ago, I used 'URL Snooper' to find the actual
    multimedia URLs used by the web-players.

    'URL Snooper' <http://www.donationcoder.com/software/mouser/popular-apps/url-snooper>

    The latest release is quite old (2017), but lists Windows 10 (I used
    it on Windows 8.1).

    [...]
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  • From Arno Welzel@usenet@arnowelzel.de to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 20:58:29 2026
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    croy, 2026-04-12 18:57:

    When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts
    off after a few minutes.

    Is that shut off preventable?

    Not if there is no option for it in the browser.

    You may use an app like Radio Garden or similar which allows to keep
    running in the background.
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  • From Arno Welzel@usenet@arnowelzel.de to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 20:59:51 2026
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    Maria Sophia, 2026-04-12 19:38:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    croy wrote:

    When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts >>> off after a few minutes.

    I *can* listen to e.g. https://times.radio/ in firefox on android, but I
    don't tend to do it that way for long periods of time, preferrig either
    using RadioPlayer or Tunein apps.

    Is that shut off preventable?
    Have you tried apps? (I know it can be annoying to load a multitude of
    apps for different stations).

    I'm no expert in this but I am vaguely aware that a bunch of things prevent audio in the background on "my" Android phone.

    One example that is NOT a browser is the YouTube app will stop playing when
    I screenblank while the NewPipe equivalent will happily play all night.

    Yes, because NewPipe is designed to do that. YouTube not - at least not
    without paying for a "premium" plan.

    Internet radio apps usually also allow playback in the background.
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  • From Arno Welzel@usenet@arnowelzel.de to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 21:00:22 2026
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    Maria Sophia, 2026-04-12 23:08:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    Maria Sophia wrote:

    One example that is NOT a browser is the YouTube app will stop playing when >>> I screenblank

    Youtube Premium allows background play.

    Good point. How do they do it? Do they use the same YouTube app?

    Maybe - I don't know, since I use RVX which is YouTube without restrictions.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 21:58:35 2026
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    On 2026-04-13 19:33, Dave Royal wrote:
    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:

    On 2026-04-13 11:33, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:
    Siard wrote:

    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>>>> with Google....

    In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

    I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me...
    1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.

    Certainly. The problem is finding out the URL.

    I have often done that that by using Firefox developer tools (F12
    - on the desktop version of Firefox) Network tab.


    Yes, but if you only have the phone or tablet?
    And the trouble of transferring the link. A link that is not permanent,
    the stations change them periodically, and I think intentionally so that
    the browsers and third party apps stop working.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 22:01:33 2026
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    On 2026-04-13 20:58, Arno Welzel wrote:
    croy, 2026-04-12 18:57:

    When I listen to a radio station thru the browser, it times out and shuts
    off after a few minutes.

    Is that shut off preventable?

    Not if there is no option for it in the browser.

    You may use an app like Radio Garden or similar which allows to keep
    running in the background.

    Also, a well designed third party app might use less battery than the
    browser. Specially so if you are using the official page from the
    station, it will have dynamic adverts.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 21:59:38 2026
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    On 2026-04-13 15:21, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 13.04.26 um 13:50 schrieb Carlos E.R.:
    On 2026-04-13 12:52, Siard wrote:
    Carlos E.R.:
    Siard:
    Carlos E.R.:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>>>> with Google....

    Huh?

    I have the 'Google Teller' extension in Firefox and the 'Google Surveillance
    Detector' extension in Vivaldi (Chrome Web Store), telling me that 'Google >>> monitors you in this domain'.
    In the source code, 'googletag' is mentioned many times.
    However, I must say that I am not an expert on this, so I can't say exactly >>> what's going on.

    Well, google tracks almost every web page through their adverts and
    scripts. As far as knowing the station, that's... peculiar.

    Use the extension NoScript with Firefox.

    http://noscript.net/

    Not recommended for beginners.


    I don't bother.
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to comp.mobile.android on Mon Apr 13 15:52:47 2026
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    Arno Welzel wrote:
    Internet radio apps usually also allow playback in the background.

    I noticed on my audio folder that I had long ago tested
    a. Open Radio
    b. FM Radio
    In addition to downloading yesterday
    c. RadioDroid

    Looking in Muntashirakon App Manager for their unique package names
    a. com.yuriy.openradio
    b. com.liveradio.fmradio.radiotuner.radiostation.amradio
    c. net.programmierecke.radiodroid2

    I haven't tested them recently, but I suggest to the OP that he can.
    Although, it seems the OP is a hit-and-run poster to this newsgroup.

    What's with that?
    Is he just wasting our valuable time like micky does?

    Has anyone received any response about this question from the OP?
    Is he just playing games on the Android newsgroup with our valuable help?
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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Tue Apr 14 17:23:28 2026
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    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
    On 2026-04-13 19:33, Dave Royal wrote:
    "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:

    On 2026-04-13 11:33, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:
    Siard wrote:

    Carlos E.R. wrote:
    For websites, I would recommend <https://streema.com>

    As soon as you click PLAY, your interest in the radio station is shared >>>>> with Google....

    In which case, stick to AM/FM radio ...

    I know nothing about Internet radio on Android, but Google tells me... >>> 1. VLC plays any audio/video stream, including direct radio URLs.

    Certainly. The problem is finding out the URL.

    I have often done that that by using Firefox developer tools (F12
    - on the desktop version of Firefox) Network tab.

    Yes, but if you only have the phone or tablet?

    A long time ago (2017) I used the Android tPacketCapture app to
    capture packets and the Android SharkReader app to analyze the packets.
    But sadly my old URLs for these apps no longer work.

    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.taosoftware.android.packetcapture>
    <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.sharkreader>

    Perhaps a Google search will find other download locations or/and
    alternative apps.

    And if one has a computer (Windows, Linux, macOS), Wireshark can be an alternative for the SharkReader app

    And the trouble of transferring the link. A link that is not permanent,
    the stations change them periodically, and I think intentionally so that
    the browsers and third party apps stop working.

    Yes, that - changing URLs - has been my experience as well.
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  • From croy@croy@spam.invalid.net to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 17 08:03:33 2026
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    On Sun, 12 Apr 2026 18:23:53 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    I *can* listen to e.g. https://times.radio/ in firefox on android, but I >don't tend to do it that way for long periods of time, preferrig either >using RadioPlayer or Tunein apps.

    Is that shut off preventable?
    Have you tried apps? (I know it can be annoying to load a multitude of
    apps for different stations).

    I have not tried adding apps yet.
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  • From croy@croy@spam.invalid.net to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 17 08:06:35 2026
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    On Sun, 12 Apr 2026 10:38:06 -0700, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:

    Just getting back to this.

    Android's Battery Optimization may also play a role, I would think.

    Thanks! That struck gold. It was the app's battery optimization settings
    that did the trick.
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  • From croy@croy@spam.invalid.net to comp.mobile.android on Fri Apr 17 08:11:44 2026
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    On Sun, 12 Apr 2026 13:55:43 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    If the shut off is a discontinuance of streaming content from the web
    site, you sure they don't implement an idle timeout? You're likely
    listening to the content, but not doing anything else at the website, so
    it sees you are idle. If idle too long, they may figure you abandoned
    the playback. Just because the client (web browser) is receiving the >streamed audio doesn't mean anyone is there at the client end to listen
    to the music, so it is a waste of their resources and bandwidth to
    continue playing something for which no one is listening.

    Thanks. It turned out to be the app's battery setting.

    This is my first smart phone, and the settings are a morass of confusion
    for me (what does [some arcane setting name] mean?).
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