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It's not like we all didn't see this coming.
https://www.techspot.com/news/104950-ubisoft-investors-push-sale-shares-hit-decade-low.html
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 20:36 this Tuesday (GMT):
It's not like we all didn't see this coming.
https://www.techspot.com/news/104950-ubisoft-investors-push-sale-shares-hit-decade-low.html
Not surprised.
A case of chickens coming home to roost for the kings of DEI based
game design. I hope they've learned their lesson and return to
focusing on making games fun rather than shoving their political
agenda down the player's throat.
Rin Stowleigh <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:
A case of chickens coming home to roost for the kings of DEI based
game design. I hope they've learned their lesson and return to
focusing on making games fun rather than shoving their political
agenda down the player's throat.
A perfect opportunity for Elon Musk to buy Ubisoft and work his magic.
Every Ubisoft game will have a white male protagonist. Not just games
from the Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Prince of Persia, Tom Clancy's Rainbow >Six, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell, Tom Clancy's
The Division, Watch Dogs and The Crew franchises. Only Elon Musk can
ensure that any new Avatar, Anno, Beyond Good and Evil, Just Dance, Might
and Magic, Rabbids, Rayman, Rocksmith and The Settlers games are free
of any trace of DEI and only have white male protagonists as God intended!
It's not like we all didn't see this coming.
https://www.techspot.com/news/104950-ubisoft-investors-push-sale-shares-hit-decade-low.html
Why do radicals (regardless of left or right wing) always lose their
shit and go on emotional tirades like this as the smallest disturbance
of their comfort zone? Some side effect of the med shortage or
something?
I fully support games that target or favor specific demographics (all
genders / races / sexual orientation etc). The problem exists when a
game vendor forces this into Every.Single.Title.
Rin Stowleigh <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:
Why do radicals (regardless of left or right wing) always lose their
shit and go on emotional tirades like this as the smallest disturbance
of their comfort zone? Some side effect of the med shortage or
something?
I'm guessing it's because you live in the US and can't afford your >medications.
I fully support games that target or favor specific demographics (all >>genders / races / sexual orientation etc). The problem exists when a
game vendor forces this into Every.Single.Title.
Yah, *every* *single* Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Prince of Persia,
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six, Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon, Tom Clancy's
Splinter Cell, Tom Clancy's The Division, Watch Dogs and The Crew game. >(Thank God for cut and paste.)
Why do radicals (regardless of left or right wing) always lose theirBecause it violates their religious beliefs.
shit and go on emotional tirades like this as the smallest disturbance
of their comfort zone?
Why do radicals (regardless of left or right wing) always lose their
shit and go on emotional tirades like this as the smallest disturbance
of their comfort zone?
Because it violates their religious beliefs.
Rin Stowleigh wrote:
Why do radicals (regardless of left or right wing) always lose their
shit and go on emotional tirades like this as the smallest disturbance
of their comfort zone?
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
Because it violates their religious beliefs.
Really? What religious beliefs does Rin have that causes him to go on
these rants? His lack of medication explaination made more sense, not
being able to treat his illness is obviously going to cause problems,
but he now denies this. It never occured to me that he could be some
sort of religious fanatic.
Rin Stowleigh wrote:
Why do radicals (regardless of left or right wing) always lose their
shit and go on emotional tirades like this as the smallest disturbance
of their comfort zone?
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
Because it violates their religious beliefs.
Really? What religious beliefs does Rin have that causes him to go on
these rants? His lack of medication explaination made more sense, not
being able to treat his illness is obviously going to cause problems,
but he now denies this. It never occured to me that he could be some
sort of religious fanatic.
We ALL have certain beliefs about "How Things Should Be" regardless of >whether or not we read a particular book or show up in a particular
building every week. They make up our individual "religions" whether
they involve supernatural beings/powers or not. Some manifest to others
as a sense of entitlement but the basis of it is the same.
What's amazing is that you don't even seem to realize your response to
mine was of the "I know you are but what am I?" variety, simply
parroting and repositioning....
...the first reach of someone who is mentally 6 years old.
Rin Stowleigh <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:
What's amazing is that you don't even seem to realize your response to
mine was of the "I know you are but what am I?" variety, simply
parroting and repositioning....
...the first reach of someone who is mentally 6 years old.
Yes, I admit it. Your hypocrisy is so blatant even a 6 year-old would
have an easy time mocking it. Why try raise the level of discourse when
much of what I'm saying is already going over your head?
On Tue, 01 Oct 2024 15:36:14 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>[snip]
wrote:
TL;DR: ignore the dour Wall Street news about Ubisoft. It's more about
the struggle to control the company than the actual health of the
company.
On 10/3/2024 6:37 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
Rin Stowleigh wrote:We ALL have certain beliefs about "How Things Should Be" regardless of >whether or not we read a particular book or show up in a particular
Why do radicals (regardless of left or right wing) always lose their
shit and go on emotional tirades like this as the smallest disturbance
of their comfort zone?
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
Because it violates their religious beliefs.
Really? What religious beliefs does Rin have that causes him to go on
these rants? His lack of medication explaination made more sense, not
being able to treat his illness is obviously going to cause problems,
but he now denies this. It never occured to me that he could be some
sort of religious fanatic.
building every week. They make up our individual "religions" whether
they involve supernatural beings/powers or not. Some manifest to others
as a sense of entitlement but the basis of it is the same.
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
We ALL have certain beliefs about "How Things Should Be" regardless of >>whether or not we read a particular book or show up in a particular >>building every week. They make up our individual "religions" whether
they involve supernatural beings/powers or not. Some manifest to others >>as a sense of entitlement but the basis of it is the same.
Ah, ok. Yah, Rin definitely has a well developed sense of entitlement.
I don't think it explains though why he sees DEI everywhere though.
Saying that Every. Single. Game.(*) Ubisoft has made since Far Cry 2 has
been infused with DEI requires a state of mind that can't be explained
simply by him feeling he's owed something.
(*) I suggest capitalizing it like that it doesn't look like you don't
know how punctuation is supposed to work.
On Tue, 01 Oct 2024 15:36:14 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:
It's not like we all didn't see this coming.
https://www.techspot.com/news/104950-ubisoft-investors-push-sale-shares-hit-decade-low.html
It should be noted that stock-price only occasionally corresponds with
actual performance of a company anymore, and in this case we should >definitely look at things with that in mind. Despite the under
performance of "Outlaws" (which honestly shouldn't have been a
surprise; Ubisoft was a poor fit for the franchise and many people
were wary of the game even before it came out) the company is still
well in the black. It just isn't making AS MUCH money as it hoped.
Rin Stowleigh <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:
What's amazing is that you don't even seem to realize your response to
mine was of the "I know you are but what am I?" variety, simply
parroting and repositioning....
...the first reach of someone who is mentally 6 years old.
Yes, I admit it. Your hypocrisy is so blatant even a 6 year-old would
have an easy time mocking it. Why try raise the level of discourse when
much of what I'm saying is already going over your head?
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
We ALL have certain beliefs about "How Things Should Be" regardless of >>whether or not we read a particular book or show up in a particular >>building every week. They make up our individual "religions" whether
they involve supernatural beings/powers or not. Some manifest to others >>as a sense of entitlement but the basis of it is the same.
Ah, ok. Yah, Rin definitely has a well developed sense of entitlement.
I don't think it explains though why he sees DEI everywhere though.
Saying that Every. Single. Game.(*) Ubisoft has made since Far Cry 2 has
been infused with DEI requires a state of mind that can't be explained
simply by him feeling he's owed something.
(*) I suggest capitalizing it like that it doesn't look like you don't
know how punctuation is supposed to work.
Ross? Did someone hijack your account? I'm happy to be killfiled by this >jerk. Just ask him "How full of shit are you?" and you'll be in my little >slice of heaven.
On 10/3/2024 6:37 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
Rin Stowleigh wrote:We ALL have certain beliefs about "How Things Should Be" regardless of >whether or not we read a particular book or show up in a particular
Why do radicals (regardless of left or right wing) always lose their
shit and go on emotional tirades like this as the smallest disturbance
of their comfort zone?
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
Because it violates their religious beliefs.
Really? What religious beliefs does Rin have that causes him to go on
these rants? His lack of medication explaination made more sense, not
being able to treat his illness is obviously going to cause problems,
but he now denies this. It never occured to me that he could be some
sort of religious fanatic.
building every week. They make up our individual "religions" whether
they involve supernatural beings/powers or not. Some manifest to others
as a sense of entitlement but the basis of it is the same.
Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ross? Did someone hijack your account? I'm happy to be killfiled by this >>jerk. Just ask him "How full of shit are you?" and you'll be in my little >>slice of heaven.
Heh. Sorry, just amusing myself with a pointless little flame war.
It's been a long time. I usually just ignore Rin, but his enormous
stupidity (anyone buying Ubisoft will be just as focused on chasing fads
for short-term gains) somehow caught my eye this time.
But congradulations on winning whatever argument Rin put you in his
killfile for. It's rare on the Internet these days for anyone to admit >defeat so conclusively like that.
On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 11:45:07 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Tue, 01 Oct 2024 15:36:14 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>[snip]
wrote:
It's not like we all didn't see this coming.
https://www.techspot.com/news/104950-ubisoft-investors-push-sale-shares-hit-decade-low.html
It should be noted that stock-price only occasionally corresponds with >>actual performance of a company anymore, and in this case we should >>definitely look at things with that in mind. Despite the under
performance of "Outlaws" (which honestly shouldn't have been a
surprise; Ubisoft was a poor fit for the franchise and many people
were wary of the game even before it came out) the company is still
well in the black. It just isn't making AS MUCH money as it hoped.
I disagree. It's the difference between a correction and an historical
low. This is the latter, and Ubi's answer is _another_ Assassin's Creed
game? That's delayed? It's emblematic of the problems there.
What was their last novel IP? Watch Dogs? Didn't they just pull The Crew
for no benefit other than a few pennies? Their leadership just told the >community that "...it's about feeling comfortable with not owning your
game." Was that a good idea?
Their corporate vision is seemingly to piss off their customers.
Companies have gone from "in the black" to "out of business" in a wink
for these kinds of big ticket mistakes. If they don't right the ship, if
they can't even properly launch a novel IP (even a tried-and-true license >like Star Wars FFS), they're a candidate for sudden, catastrophic
illness. The patient may be stable for now, as you say "in the black,"
but it's still ill and flirting with a trip to the ICU.
Outlaws was a proper moon shot. If they're complaining about it >underperforming, it is probably because it's a big deal.
I agree that the Guillemots need to go, for all the reasons above and
then some. They have recklessly and arrogantly sown bad will, they have >retread franchises to the wheel rim, and they have demonstrated that they >can't generate new ones.
This will (has?) lead to a leadership crisis, which you have described,
and will lead to the eventual sell-off of underperforming units when new >leadership tries to right the ship. We've seen this movie before.
The weather report is the weather report. I accept it might be somewhat >wrong, but historical lows are not a good sign. The forecast is ugly. The >only question is _how_ ugly.
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