• A Blast From The Past -- c.s.i.p.games FAQ

    From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Aug 27 16:12:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action


    I miss the old FAQs that used to be posted in newsgroups. They were a convenient way for new users to get up to speed on bits of trivia that
    were commonly understood by other readers of the newsgroup. This was
    especially important in the Usenet heyday, when new users joined in
    record numbers, and it got really annoying answering the same
    questions over and over again. (Nowadays, with newsgroup populations
    so miniscule, we're glad for ANY traffic, even if its asking something
    we already answered last week ;-)

    Anyway, thanks to the pugleaf archive at https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/groups/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games/ we can
    (briefly) relive those 'glory days' with a (completely unauthorized)
    reposting of the comp.sys.ibm.pc.games (note: no *.action yet!) FAQ.
    See what everybody thought was important to know in 1992!


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    ADMIN: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games - Frequently Asked Questions - Read
    before posting
    From: warrenApple.COM
    Date: Wed, 13 May 1992 18:00


    Hi all! Here's the new FAQ for comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.
    Could you please review it and give me comments. It's
    basically similar to the r.g.m FAQ. I added
    some ideas for posting guidelines and a description of
    the new group. Someday, I'll update the hints section
    to include U7, and UW. (Or could people mail me
    answers to some of the most common spoilers about those games?
    thanx)

    Lemme know what you think

    Cheers
    Chris

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    ----------------------------- FAQ in 4 Parts
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    ------------------------ Ver 1.0 - Rev date 5/7/92
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    Contents:

    Part 1: General Questions

    The folowing questions are covered in part 1. You can search for
    the coresponding number with your editor if you want to skip to that
    question

    1: What is comp.sys.ibm.pc.games?
    2: What should I be aware of when posting to
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games?
    3: What are all these other game groups?
    4: What is a Spoiler?
    5: How should I post a spoiler?
    6: How do I FTP?
    7: Where can I download public domain games.
    8: Where can I get hints/solutions to games?
    9: Which sound board should I buy?
    10: Where to get the Sound Site Newsletter?
    11: Where can I get music players/music files/music
    editors/songs/etc. for my pc's music card?
    12: What is the difference between the Sound Blaster and the
    Sound Blaster Pro?
    13: My 386/33 and Sound Blaster seem incompatible. I get garbled
    music when playing Ultima6/SSI games/etc. What's wrong?
    14: Where can I get Infocom games? Can somebody mail me a copy
    (since they're out of business anyway (Is that legal?) What
    happened to them anyway?
    15: Where can I Buy/Get support for games.

    Part 2: Glossary

    Did you ever wonder about the meaning of IMHO, CoAB, LSL5, or any of
    the other acronyms that fly fast and furious in this group, look
    here for info.

    Part 3: FAQ -- Game Bugs

    Compilation of the most common spoiler/bug problems. They are
    arranged by game and are by no means comprehensive but they should
    help people who get stuck in areas of poor game design or just plain difficulty.

    Part 4: FAQ -- Game Spoilers

    Compilation of the most common spoiler/bug problems. They are
    arranged by game and are by no means comprehensive but they should
    help people who get stuck in areas of poor game design or just plain difficulty.


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    Administrivia/Soapbox:


    Hello, here is your friendly neighborhood FAQ [person, sacrafical
    lamb, lemming, ??? :]

    Welcome to the new group!

    There are still a few questions I need answers for.
    Please email me additions, corrections, or whatever and I will
    incorporate them in the next version.

    This FAQ will be posted every two weeks or so. For the time being,
    this will crossposted to rec.games.misc for purposes of smoothing
    the transition to the new group.

    Cheers
    Chris Warren (editor without cause)


    ------------------------ Part 1: General Questions
    -----------------------

    1: What is comp.sys.ibm.pc.games?

    A: This group arose out of rec.games.misc. For some time, that group
    had been dominated by discussions of MSDOS games. This has proved
    confusing to new people, and tended to starve out non MSDOS, non
    computer oriented traffic.

    The charter of this group is to provide a forum for the discussion of
    games for the IBM PC or compatible machines. This is not just limited
    to MS-DOS, but extends to OS/2, Windows and anything else which can
    run on an IBM PC compatible.

    For example (not comprehensive):
    o Discussion of upcoming games
    o Discussion of software companies
    o Discussion of current and past games
    o Requests for help
    o Hints and spoilers
    o Personal sales and trading of games. Not for commercial sales
    or piracy. Any risk assumed is your own.
    o Discussion of locations of new demos and ftp sites

    Certain games have their own newsgroup. These include the games: Corewar,Empire, Hack, Moria, and Rogue. See question three for more
    details. Questions pertaining to one of those games should be posted
    to that group, and possibly here if it is of general enough interest.

    Also certain games that come out on the PC tend to migrate to other
    platforms, so this group can serve as a resource for people with
    questions about those games as well.


    2: What should I be aware of when posting to this
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games?

    When you post an article there a few things you can do to make life
    easier for others.

    a) Subject Headers: Note the following is voluntary. It is being
    suggested because it will make everyone's life easier if people use
    it. However if you don't use it, the net.police are not going to haul
    you away (or flame you away:)

    Use an all caps prefix followed by a colon to indicate the type of
    message. This allows others to quicky find your article if it
    pertains to a particular topic. Here is a list of common prefixs.
    [feel free to suggest others or changes]

    HELP: Message asking for help in a game.
    Replies to these messages can often contain SPOILERS.
    SPOILER: A message which gives something away about a game and
    doesn't fall under HELP:
    BUG: Message about a bug in a game, how to get arround a
    particular bug, how to get patches to fix bugs, etc.
    TECHHELP: Message asking for help in getting a game to run on
    your machine.
    UPCOMING: Message talking about an upcomming game
    REVIEW: Message reviewing a particular game
    4SALE: Posting for personal sales or trading of games or
    game wanted. Not for commercial sales or piracy.
    Any risk assumed is your own.
    ADMIN: Administrative and group info type stuff.
    The FAQ falls under this category
    MISC: Misceleneous topic
    FLAME: Message whose primary purpose is to vent one's spleen.

    If you don't use a heading, then at least please use an indication
    of the game that you are talking about in the subject line. In any
    event, subject line should be indicative of the contents of the
    message.

    b) Understand about SPOILERS. See question 4.

    c) While it is OK to talk about removing copy protection for
    legitimate owners of games. It is NOT cool to talk about how to
    pirate software, or to post requests for pirated copies of software.
    There sometimes can be a fine line between these two so care should be
    taken with respect to these areas. It is all to easy to start a flame
    war...


    3: What are all these other game groups?

    A: bit.listserv.games-l -- This newsgroup is mostly
    for MS-DOS games, but since many
    people on bitnet have access to
    only bit.listserv.games-l you'll
    see all kinds of posts from Amiga
    questions to Nintendo questions.
    comp.sys.amiga.games -- Amiga specific games
    comp.sys.mac.games -- Macintosh specific games
    rec.arts.int-fiction -- Covers interactive fiction
    (generalized term that includes adventure
    games) from the standpoint of developing
    int-fiction as a new literary genre. For
    implementors of int-fiction more than
    players.
    rec.games.corewar -- Group for Core War, CRobots and other
    games that involve programming.
    rec.games.design -- General game design issues. Currently
    focuses on non computer based roleplaying
    games. Could be of interest to designers
    of CRPGs (Computer Role Playing Games)
    rec.games.frp -- Covers mostly non computer RPGs
    rec.games.mud -- Multi-User Dungeon
    rec.games.mud.lp -- Cool multiplayer Zork type games that
    you can hook onto over the internet.
    You text adventure type should check
    this, if you like the idea of playing
    in a zork game with other people where
    you can help build the universe!
    rec.games.pbm -- Discussion of play-by-mail games.
    rec.games.pinball -- Discussion of pinball, both for
    players of coin-op pinball games
    and pinball collectors.
    rec.games.programmer -- Discussion of the implementation and
    programming of computer games of all
    types.
    rec.games.rpg -- Unofficial newsgroup that is a visceral
    clone of rec.game.frp and a source of
    major irritation [read flamewars] for
    all involved. Be a net.person.good
    and use rec.games.frp :)
    [follow up this topic on alt.flame]
    rec.games.vectrex -- Discussion of the discontinued Vectrex
    vector graphics home game system.
    rec.games.video -- Discussion of dedicated home video
    game systems
    (i.e. Nintendo, Genesis) and the
    dedicated video game market in general.
    Computer games are occasionally
    discussed, especially those for older
    computers (i.e. Commodore 64, Atari
    8-bit, Apple II).
    rec.games.video.arcade -- A group for discussion of arcade games
    (in arcades). They discuss old classics
    as well as current games.

    [ PLEASE add to this list and/or the above descriptions ]


    4: What is a Spoiler?

    A: Anything that gives away information about a game, which could hurt
    a player's enjoyment of a game. It comes from "Spoil the Surprise."
    In this context it usually refers to the solution to a puzzle, or a
    description of the ending animation sequence for a game. Most people
    get really *pissed* if you post a spoiler with out a SPOILER WARNING.

    Example of a Spoiler [made up by Bryon Daly]
    This comes from *no* game (yet:)

    Hey guys:
    In Kazoos Of Doom, I just used the +3 Accordion Of Boredom to kill the
    guard and solve the riddle. Now I'm stuck on how to get down to the
    next level...


    5: How should I post a spoiler?

    A: At minimum you should include the word SPOILER in your subject
    line and a line in your message that indicates that a Spoiler follows.
    One way to do this is as follows:

    [SPOILER ALERT]
    ^L (control-L)
    24 carriage returns

    <text of spoiler>

    [END SPOILER ALERT]

    Spoilers should definitely include a form-feed character (control-L)
    to avoid 'giving away' the secrets. Use of multiple CR's to support
    readers in window oriented environments like the Mac is recommended in
    addition to the control-L. Some people argue with justification that newsreaders that don't support control-L as a pause are broken, and
    some people argue that control-L doesn't make sense in a window
    environment, but spoilers should definitely have a ^L included to
    follow usenet conventions - and support workstation readers who may
    have large screens.

    Details of inserting a cntl-L / form-feed depend very much on one's
    system and/or editor - the following advice may not work for everyone
    or even a majority of people.

    On some UNIX systems (maybe others), you have to type the "escape" key
    to enter a control. The escape key is _not_ the esc. You type ^V
    then ^L, and the ^L will be entered into the text. Otherwise, just a
    ^L will clear the screen.


    6: How do I FTP?

    A: [Thanks to John Gordon and Stephen M. Smith for most of what
    follows]

    [We are assuming that you are on a UNIX machine. If you are using
    something else, you are on you own. Sorry :( ]

    Directions

    1) From your system prompt, type "ftp <host-name>", where
    <host-name> is the name of the host machine that you are trying to get
    to.

    Example: "ftp cica.cica.indiana.edu". Note: In some cases you may not
    be able to use the name, you will have to use the IP address number.
    This number is 4 numbers separated by dots, i.e. "135.56.9.2". If you
    have to do it this way, you would type "ftp 135.56.9.2". Presumably
    you can obtain the IP number from the same place you got the
    host-name.

    Or use the /usr/etc/nslookup command to find the IP number from a
    machine name.

    2) When you connect to the host, you will have to enter a login
    and probably a password. Most sites support what is called "Anonymous
    FTP", this means that you enter "anonymous" as your login and then
    enter your real login as you password, i.e. "joe@comp.node.whatever".
    Some sites accept "ftp" as an anonymous login rather than "anonymous".
    I have heard that sysadmins rarely check what you entered for your
    password, but it is courteous to be truthful. NOTE: Most sites don't
    want you using anonymous FTP during prime-time, which is usually
    7am-6pm *local* time.

    Note: Local time can often be hard to determine just from a site's
    name.

    You can use the command "telnet <site> daytime" or, failing that,
    "telnet <site> 13", will give the system time at <site>.

    3) After you have successfully logged on, you can use "cd" and
    "ls", among other commands, to get where you want in the directory
    tree.

    4) Once you are in the correct directory and know what files
    you want, you can use "get" to copy single files, i.e. "get file1.c",
    or "mget" to copy multiple files, i.e. "mget *.zip". NOTE: If the
    files you are copying are not plain-text files, i.e. compressed files,
    binary data files, etc. you will want to set the transfer mode to
    binary. You can do this by entering "type binary". "binary" or
    "tenex" may also work.

    5) If you get stuck, you can type "help" or "?" and get a list of FTP
    commands that you can use. "man ftp" from your system prompt will
    also be helpful.

    6) If any of the files you copied have a .Z, .shar, and/or .tar
    extensions, you will have to play around with the files a bit before
    you can use them. Check out the man pages for the commands
    "uncompress" (for .Z files), "shar" (for .shar files), and "tar"
    (for .tar files).

    7) Software obtained this way will probably not have viruses, but you
    never know. Be careful out there. Note: I say that "it will probably
    not have viruses" because there is simply more "clean" software out
    there than there is "dirty" software, not because FTP is somehow
    inherently safer.


    Note: [thanks flee@guardian.cs.psu.edu]
    About ftping, what "binary" means is that the remote system is
    compatible with your system, and ftp will send an exact image of the
    file (Type I stands for Image). If, for example, both systems are
    Unix systems, then you can always use binary mode, even for retrieving
    text files. Binary mode will be a little faster, because the systems
    will not have to convert back and forth between local ascii and
    network ascii.

    Type tenex (L 8) is used to talk to DEC-10s and DEC-20s and other
    machines with 9-bit bytes. Machines with 8-bit bytes (which is nearly
    everyone else) need to specify the "L 8" type to send binary files to
    and from those machines.

    Of the ftp sites you list, I think WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL is the only
    host that needs type tenex.

    Example FTP session with Anotations

    ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu
    Connected to wuarchive.wustl.edu.
    220 wuarchive.wustl.edu FTP server (Version 6.11 Fri Aug 16 07:53:21
    CDT 1991)
    Name (wuarchive.wustl.edu:myname): anonymous [enter "anonymous" or "ftp" for sign-on name]
    331 Guest login ok, send e-mail address as password.
    Password: ["guest" usually works, otherwise put in your real email address for the password]
    230-Welcome, archive user! This is an experimental FTP server. If
    you 230-have any unusual problems, please report them via e-mail to 230-root@wuarchive.wustl.edu. If you do have problems, please try
    using a 230-dash (-) as the first character of your password -- this
    will turn off 230-the continuation messages that may be confusing your
    ftp client.
    230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
    cd /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/demos [change to the appropriate directory with the "cd" command, and make sure your directory dividers are "/" not "\"]
    250 CWD command successful.
    ls ["list" the contents of the directory; for a full description use "dir" or "ls -l"]
    200 PORT command successful.
    150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list.
    hover.zip
    lemmings.zip
    vectdemo.zip
    swotl.unp.txt.Z
    226 Transfer complete.
    56 bytes received in 0.03 seconds (1.8 Kbytes/s)
    binary [for any file OTHER than a text file, change to binary transfer by entering "binary"; some sites use the word(s) "tenex" or "type L 8" instead of "binary"; to change back to make a text (ASCII) transfer enter the word "ascii"]
    200 Type set to I.
    get hover.zip [enter "get (filename)" to transfer the file to your site from the remote site]
    200 PORT command successful.
    150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for hover.zip (424060 bytes).
    226 Transfer complete.
    local: hover.zip remote: hover.zip
    424060 bytes received in 38 seconds (11 Kbytes/s)
    quit [enter "quit" or "bye" to leave the ftp session]
    221 Goodbye.
    [you are returned to your system prompt]


    7: Where can I download public domain games.

    A: here are someplaces. [please post more]

    risc.ua.edu 130.160.4.7 pub/games/pc PC games[?]
    sumex-aim.stanford.edu 36.44.0.6 ??? Mac Software
    mac.archive.umich.edu 141.211.164.153 ??? Mac Software
    msdos.archive.umich.edu 141.211.164.153 ??? Dos Software
    Note: Last two are the same machine. Can be
    accessed by archive.umich.edu
    ftp.ulowell.edu 129.63.1.1 msdos\Games Apogee games,
    some demos, misc stuff
    grape.ecs.clarkson.edu 128.153.28.12 everywhere MSDOS games
    Note: The stuff at this archive is rather jumbled up,
    and games can be found in many directories


    Here is a place to get demos for games:

    wuarchive.wustl.edu /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/demos.
    ftp.ulowell.edu 129.63.1.1 /pub
    /msdos/Games/Demo

    Here are some random ftp sites that may have games

    aisun1.ai.uga.edu language processing, msdos
    iraun1.ira.uka.de ham-radio, msdos, internet
    mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu software, msdos, mac
    msdos.archive.umich.edu 03/01/91 anonymous/odin@pilot.njin.net
    novell.macc.wisc.edu msdos)
    procyon.cis.ksu.edu unix-pc, pd modula2, msdos,
    quiche.cs.mcgill.ca 132.206.51.1 sites, msdos, bible, Hubble
    rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de msdos, unix, mathematics
    schizo.samsung.com networking sw, msdos, gifs,
    sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au modula 3, msdos, aus.aarnet
    vaxb.acs.unt.edu msdos, amiga, midi, network
    wuarchive.wustl.edu 128.252.135.4 comp.sources.x, msdos,
    cc.sfu.ca 128.189.32.250 msdos, mac
    csc2.anu.edu.au 130.56.4.25 sun-fixes, RFCs, NCSA, msdos,
    doc.cso.uiuc.edu 128.174.33.105 msdos (pcsig), mac
    f.ms.uky.edu 128.163.128.6 mac, msdos, unix-pc
    garbo.uwasa.fi 128.214.12.37 msdos, win3, ts-progs, unix,
    grape.ecs.clarkson.edu 128.153.28.129 Opus BBS, msdos, graphics,
    iesd.auc.dk 130.225.48.4 amiga, mac, msdos, myth
    mars.ee.msstate.edu 130.18.64.3 msdos, amiga, mac, atari,
    meap.uta.edu 129.107.2.20 msdos engineering/science sw
    msdos.archive.umich.edu 141.211.165.34 msdos, mac
    mtsg.ubc.ca 137.82.27.1 msdos, unix, amiga, os2
    nic.funet.fi 128.214.6.100 GNU, X11, networking, msdos,
    orc.olivetti.com 129.189.192.20 msdos fax netinfo rfc
    peace.waikato.ac.nz 130.217.64.62 anu-news gnu msdos mac ncsa
    plains.nodak.edu 134.129.111.64 apple, msdos, mac, amiga,
    shasta.scl.cwru.edu 129.22.32.7 smail/pc, msdos, gif, packet
    sparky2.esd.mun.ca 134.153.11.101 NewPet and QuikPlot msdos
    sumex.edu ??? Mac Software
    um.cc.umich.edu 35.1.1.43 msdos, mac, apple, atari
    vega.hut.fi 130.233.200.42 msdos, mac, Kermit, fusion
    vmtecmex.cem.itesm.mx 132.254.1.4 amiga, msdos, gif
    vuwcom.vuw.ac.nz 130.195.2.10 kermit, mac, msdos, vms
    wsmr-simtel20.army.mil 192.88.110.20 msdos, unix, cpm, mac (tenex)


    NOTE: A simply massive ftplist can be downloaded from the Document
    Site:
    typhoon.Berkeley.EDU(128.32.184.254) in pub/Library
    This place has a lot of other documents also.


    8: Where can I get hints/solutions to games?

    A: See Part 3 of the FAQ for Frequently Asked Hints/Bugs or use ftp,
    see below.

    Here are ftp sites [please post more]

    risc.ua.edu 130.160.4.7 -- pub/games/solutions
    This is in the US, and it largely
    duplicates nic.funet.fi
    nic.funet.fi 128.214.6.100 -- pub/misc/games.solutions
    This is in Finland, and it largely
    duplicates risc.ua.edu
    NOTE: when ftp'ing to nic.funet.fi
    you MUST enter your email address as
    the password in order to be able to
    access the appropriate subdirectories!

    There are no walkthroughs on the Internet for the following games.
    [Thanks to Carl Hommel for this info]

    Ultima 4
    Bards Tale II
    Eye of the Beholder (postscript maps available from someplace in Oz)
    Might & Magic I, III (hint books cost $12)
    The SSI "Gold Box" games (hint books cost $15)
    Pool of Radiance
    Curse of the Azure Bonds
    Secret of the Silver Blades
    Pool of Darkness
    Wizardry I - V

    An EotB walkthrough is the *most* frequently asked walkthrough
    question. Earn eternal fame by being the first to write/upload one!

    The following solutions had been uploaded to risc.ua.edu...
    directory /pub/games/solutions
    most of them were written by me...

    sol.elvira - Elvira
    sol.elvira2 - Elvira II
    sol.eob2 - Eye of the Beholder II
    sol.geisha - Geisha (not done by me)
    sol.iceman - Codename : ICEMAN
    sol.kol - Knights of Legend
    sol.lostinla - Les Manley II - Lost in L.A.
    sol.martianmemorandam - Martian Memorandum
    sol.mm3 - Might & Magic III
    sol.monkey - Secret of Monkey Island
    sol.monkey2 - Secret of Monkey Island II
    sol.uukrul - The Dark Heart of Uukrul
    sol.willy - The Adventures of Willy Beamish
    sol.wizardry6 - Bane of the Cosmic Forge (not done by me)
    sol.zyca - Legend of the Zyca

    9: Which sound board should I buy?

    A: Read the sound site newsletter, which will tell you everything you
    ever wanted to know about sound*
    (* but were afraid to ask:)

    10: Where to get the Sound Site Newsletter?

    A: The Sound Site Newsletter is posted monthly or bimonthly to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games, comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc, and comp.sys.mac.misc
    under the subject heading "Sound Newsletter #?". If possible,
    obtain a copy from one of those newsgroups.

    The editor for the newsletter is David Komatsu; he may be reached at
    one of the following three email addresses: sound@ccb.ucsf.edu, davek@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu, and komatsu@aludra.usc.edu. For back
    issues of the Sound Site Newsletter, obtain the latest copy and follow
    the directions given in it.

    11: Where can I get music players/music files/music
    editors/songs/etc. for my pc's music card?

    A: Read the Sound Site Newsletter.


    12: What is the difference between the Sound Blaster and the Sound
    Blaster Pro?

    A: [??? will this be in the Sound Site Newsletter?]


    13: My 386/33 and Sound Blaster seem incompatible. I get garbled
    music when playing Ultima6/SSI games/etc. What's wrong?

    A: On some fast machines there are timing problems with certain
    game's software. Try turning off the cache or lowering the CPU speed.

    14: Where can I get Infocom games? Can somebody mail me a copy (since
    they're out of business anyway (Is that legal?) What happened to
    them anyway?

    A: The Lost Treasures of Infocom is now available at Electronic
    Boutiques and other fine stores everywhere. $59.95 list, EB price is
    $54.95. 20 Infocom games included - all the Zork series, HHGTTG, etc.
    Whatta deal - less than $3.00 a game!

    [The following author says he's not an infocom expert, so there may be
    some mistakes]

    Infocom went out of business and was purchased by Activision. It
    currently titles a line of non-text games (Battletech, etc). The
    widespread opinion of the net holds that copying of the games is still illegal/immoral, but there is good news: the latest word is that
    Activision is planning to release a bundle containing almost all the
    infocom games very soon.

    [Nathan Torkington writes]

    Infocom were bought by Mediagenic, and are now simply a label under
    which games are released. The most recent Infocom releases are
    graphical adventures, but Mediagenic have plans to release the classic
    Infocom text adventure games around Christmas.

    UK readers will be happy to learn that the games are available from
    Virgin Mastertronic (a budget software house in the US). I'll include
    a copy of my personal FAQ on how to get the games from Mastertronic.

    I have just a read a rumour that Mediagenic are bankrupt, but this is
    still *very* strongly a rumour. I will let you know should I hear
    more (I'm sure you're just *fascinated* :-). Should Mediagenic go
    under, I will spend mucho $$$ and ring them and find out what plans
    are in action for the Infocom label.

    Further to my post of a while back, Douglas Adams' "Hitchhiker's
    Guide to the Galaxy" adventure game is being reissued by Virgin
    Mastertronic. Their advertisement in the Aug/Dept 1991 "XS NRG"
    magazine (hey, it's not mine! - I wouldn't buy something with that
    tacky a title) shows the covers to
    The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
    Zork I
    PlanetFall
    Wishbringer
    Leather Goddesses of Phobos
    Zork II
    Zork III
    Enchanter
    Sorcerer
    Deadline

    and the text reads:
    Ten good reasons to use your imagination
    Classic infocom interactive fiction is back -- at an
    irresistible price.
    Available on PC, Amiga & ST : #9.99 (# == British pound)
    INFOCOM from Mastertronic
    For further information please contact:
    Customer Services
    Virgin Mastertronic Ltd
    16 Portland Road
    London W11 2LA
    Tel: 071 - 727 8070

    I hope this helps. Remember that if you write to them asking how to
    order the game, it would be a good idea to let them know how much you
    enjoy interactive fiction (text adventures). That way they may
    (re?)release more ..

    15: Where can I buy/get support for games?

    A: "Where to get..."

    Electronic Boutique has a toll-free order line. (800) 800-0032.
    [AmEx/MasterCard/VISA, personal check, Money Order].

    CompuAdd has a toll-free order line. (800) 627-1967.
    [Discover/MasterCard/VISA, certified check, Money Order].

    Egghead has toll-free order line. (800) 347 5400.
    [I assume major credit cards. Check? Money Order?]

    "Game Maker Support"

    A number of game companies have BBS systems that their customers
    can call to leave technical support questions, get updated game
    versions, find out product information, etc. The ones I've
    signed on to in the last month are:

    Accolade (408) 296-8800
    Microprose (301) 785-1841
    Origin (512) 328-8402
    Sierra (209) 683-4463 (*)

    (*) Hints for most of their games available online!

    Other useful BBS numbers:

    DAK (are we talking deals???) (818) 715-7153
    Logitech (mice, etc) (415) 795-0408


    Thanks sgil@netcom.netcom.com (Steve Gilbert) for this info

    -------------------------- Part 2: Glossary
    -------------------------------

    Note: Any time I use series in a description, it means that the word
    is usually followed by a number (sometimes a roman numeral)
    i.e. KQ5 or KQ V is King's Quest 5, the fifth installment of Kings
    Quest.


    Adlib Adlib -- A brand of Sound Card
    AD&D Advanced Dungeons & Dragons -- See rec.games.frp
    AG Adlib Gold -- Fancer version of Adlib that competes
    better with Sound Blaster
    BotCF Bane of the Cosmic Forge (Wizardry VI)
    -- Part of the Wizardy series by Sir Tech
    BT Bards Tale -- A fantasy roleplaying series
    from Electronic Arts
    BTW By The Way -- Expression used by net.people
    CGA Color Graphics Adapter -- Old style graphics
    adapter from IBM. This was used for
    ancient games [I think it was 320x200
    with 4 colors]
    CoAB Curse of the Azure Bonds -- Computer based AD&D
    game from SSI
    EGA Extended Graphics Adapter -- Previous generation
    of graphics adapter, used for most of
    older games. (includes a 320x200 16 color
    mode, which was the old standard for games)
    EOB,EoB Eye Of the Beholder -- mouse based AD&D game from SSI
    FAQ Frequently Asked ?s -- Self-explanatory
    FTP File Transfer Protocol -- Tool used to
    transfer files between two machines
    (usually UNIX machines)
    IMHO In My Humble (or Honest) Opinion
    -- Expression used by net.people
    IMNSHO In My Not So Humble/Honest Opinion
    -- Expression used by net.people
    LSL Leisure Suit Larry -- Siera Online adventure
    game series
    M&M Might and Magic -- A fantasy roleplaying series by
    New World Computing
    KQ King's Quest -- Siera Online adventure game series
    PBM Play By Mail -- Game (often RPG) that is played by mail
    PBEM,PBeM Play by Email -- Game (often PRG) that is played by EMail
    PC Personal Computer -- Usually implies "IBM-PC compatible"
    POD,PoD Pools of Darkness -- Computer based AD&D game from SSI
    POR,PoR Pool of Radiance -- Computer based AD&D game from SSI
    RTM Read The Manual
    RTFM Read The F_CKIN Manual-- Phrases used by people who
    don't have the time/patience/desire
    to help those who have a question.
    This editor personally dislikes this
    because it sends the message Read
    the Manual Stupid. Some things are
    not always clear to others and they
    have as much a right to ask their
    questions as we have to ask ours.
    SB Sound Blaster -- A brand of Sound Card
    SQ Space Quest -- Siera Online adventure game series
    SSI Strategic Simulations Inc -- A game company that
    makes the AD&D computer games,
    among others.
    SSB Secret of the Silver Blades -- Computer based
    AD&D game from SSI
    U Ultima -- A fantasy roleplaying series by Origin
    VGA Video Graphics Array -- Current graphics adpater
    "du jour" of the game companies. It
    is required for newer games that use
    256 colors at 320x200
    SVGA Super VGA -- higher resolution 256 color modes
    that come on 3rd party graphics cards
    (includes 640x480,800x600,and 1024x768)
    see comp.sys.ibm.cp.hardware for more
    info
    WC Wing Commander -- Popular space flight simulator
    series from Origin
    Wiz Wizardy -- A fantasy roleplaying series by
    Sir Tech

    [Please post additions and corrections]

    ---------------------------- Part 3: Game Bugs
    ----------------------------

    This section cover some common game bug situations. It contains no
    Spoilers other than where a bug in the game prevents the player from
    finding out the info.


    Might and Magic III
    Sierra Games (General)
    Leisure Suit Larry 5
    Monkey Island
    Ultima 6
    Spellcasting 101
    Eye of the Beholder
    Wing Commander 1
    Wing Commander I,II cheat


    Might and Magic III

    Q: Why does brother Zeta never talk to me, even though I have visted
    brother Delta, who told me to go see him.

    A: This is a bug in the game. Zeta is supposed to tell you that you
    can find the shell on day 99. Also Zeta is the last of the brothers.

    Q: What is the magic number that lord might wants in the Arachnoid
    Caverent?

    A: [I don't remember the #. Someone please post]
    There is a bug in the game, that makes it [nearly] impossible to
    compute the number based on the clues, and besides, it's tedious. If
    you wait til later (nothing really depends on this quest), you will
    come across the answer elsewhere.


    Sierra Games (General)

    Q: I have several games from Sierra (and the associated company
    Dynamix), e.g. King's Quest V, Stellar 7, etc. When I install these
    programs with sound set to sound blaster (I have a version 2.0 sound
    blaster--not pro) my system hangs. If I set them to adlib board then
    they seem to work fine but I guess I am potentially missing out on any digitised sound effects. I had the same problem with Martian
    Memorandum but its manual gave instructions on how to change the
    interrupt from 3 (used on older sound blaster boards) to 7 (used on
    newer boards -- and what mine uses as reported by TEST-SBC). This
    change fixed things up perfectly. [What can I do?]

    A: I had the same problem with both Martian Memorandum and the Sierra
    games. I solved the problem with Martian Merorandum the same way as
    you. As for the Sierra games, when I talked to their tech support
    they indicated that there was no difference between Addlib mode and SB
    mode (I'm not sure about Dynamix however.) So I don't think you're
    missing much.


    Leisure Suit Larry 5

    Q: What happened to Leisure Suit Larry 4?

    A: According to a newsletter(or game mag) I read somewhere, after
    completing LSL3, the author swore he would never do a part 4. So as a
    man of the highest moral caliber *grin*, he kept his word and did part
    5 instead.

    Another answer is: it appears in the game Space Quest IV, so they had
    to roll the release number when they built LSL 5.


    Monkey Island

    Q: I can't get this game to run with Soundblaster (in Adlib mode) on
    my fast (33MHZ 486) machine.

    A: try running in 8MHZ mode. There is a bug that makes their Adlib
    driver fail on the fast machine.

    Ultima 6

    Q: I'm trying to install Ultima 6 for the Soundblaster. How do I do
    it?

    A: Choose Adlib and use all its default values. It will work fine.


    Q: What if I did the above and the music still doesn't sound right?

    A: Then you are in the same situation as the editor was. He called
    Origin and they told him to get the CMS chipset. He did this and
    played the game in CMS mode.


    Spellcasting 101

    Q: I have Spellcasting 101, for my IBM but I have a SoundBlaster Pro
    sound card. The packaging with S101 says that the game only uses the
    adlib sound card but only when you have run SOUND.COM.

    A: When you installed S101, it put the file SB_SOUND.COM in your S101 directory. This is the program to run before starting S101.

    [thanks to Sam Fineberg for this info]
    Thanks to Andrew Robinson I found sound.com included in an ad-lib demo
    called dpdemo. This is available on nic.funet.fi among other places
    in the directory /pub/msdos/sound/adlib. The file is called
    dpdemo.lzh.
    Included in this archive is the original ad-lib sound.com driver.
    This worked perfectly with my SoundBlaster.
    Please take note of case as most of these machines are case sensitive.
    I found that for this file to work, the Soundblaster board has to be
    set to the default address (0220H).


    Eye of the Beholder

    Q: Where can I obtain maps for the different levels?

    A: They are available as .gif files at wuarchive.wustl.edu in
    /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS. The file names are level-01.gif through
    level-12.gif.

    brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (130.102.128.5), in directory /pub/eob.
    This site is in Australia.


    The EOB maps were removed from wuarchive.wustl.edu.
    But someone just (12/18/91) posted the following note in
    bit.listserv.games-l:

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    I've just uploaded the maps for Eye of the Beholder 1 to the ftp
    site wuarchive.wustl.edu in the directory MSDOS_UPLOADS under
    the filename eobmaps.zip.
    (path \pub\MSDOS_UPLOADS)

    The twelve maps have been PKzipped into one file. Just do a binary
    ftp get on the file eobmaps.zip. When PKunzipped, it will explode
    into the twelve separate maps.

    If you have any trouble with this file and blame it on the original
    at the ftp site, please let me know so I can check and see if I did
    something wrong.



    Wing Commander 1

    Q: Where can I get the wc.exe with the joystick fix?

    A: wuarchive.wustl.edu in /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS. It's called
    wc1joyfx.zip


    Wing Commander I,II

    Q: What is the alt-del cheat in Wing Commander I [thanks Bill
    Poitras]

    A: The alt-del cheat is part of a mode that origin put in the Wing
    Commander games. you start the game wc Origin
    sm2 Origin
    wc2 Origin

    And when you hit Alt-Del, the targetted ship explodes. Lock is not
    neccessary. If you hit Alt-Ins, then all the enemy fighters blow
    up, but not capital ships. If you start the executable up with -k
    Origin, then your ship is invicible!!!

    ---------------------------- Part 4: Game Spoilers
    ----------------------------


    [SPOILER ALERT]

    This section contains common spoiler/bug/cheat questions for certain
    games.
    Games covered are:

    Might and Magic III
    Lemmings

    [We may want to break this off into a separate FAQ -- SPOILERS]


    [SPOILER ALERT]





    This section is for commonly asked questions about particular games,
    that haven't or will never make it to the hint/solutions area. Feel
    free to post or email me updates and addtions to this list. Also let
    me know when walkthroughs become available so I can delete them from
    here. We should try keep these to 2-4 questions per game.


    Might and Magic III

    Q: What goes up and down but never moves?
    A: STAIRS


    Q: What turns everything around but does not move?
    A: MIRROR


    Lemmings

    Q: How do I get a lemming to turn round?
    A: [thanks Adrian Hurt]
    Make the lemming dig vertically, until the top of his head is level
    with the floor from which he started digging. Then make him build.
    The pit which he has just dug should be small enough that he can get
    out of it without being a climber, but large enough that he doesn't
    keep building over the side - the ladder will hit the side, then he
    will stop building and turn round.

    Q: How do I complete Tricky Level 23?
    A: [thanks Adrian Hurt]
    Use both bashers to get through the big barrier in the middle - two
    bashers work faster than one. Once some lemmings are in the pit on
    the right of the barrier, make one a climber. Just before this
    lemming gets to the exit, turn him round as described above. Then
    make him a miner, so he digs a diagonal tunnel into the pit, up which
    the other lemmings can go to the exit.



    [Others?]



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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Aug 27 16:55:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:12:56 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    See what everybody thought was important to know in 1992!

    I actually opened up command line ftp to see if anything still existed!
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Aug 28 10:14:57 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:55:25 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:12:56 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    See what everybody thought was important to know in 1992!
    I actually opened up command line ftp to see if anything still existed!

    And? Well? Are any of them still working?

    Let us know so we can update the c.s.i.p.g FAQ. Else people won't know
    where they can download Doom and other shareware games! ;-)

    [actually, I more was surprised to learn Windows still
    had a command-line FTP client. It's been a long time
    since I used it... or plain old FTP, for that matter.]

    The best part of the FAQ for me was the suggestion that people use
    "FLAME:" in their topics for when they were just going to
    rant/flame/complain so people could filter it out if they wanted. The
    idea that people would have that much consideration was amazingly
    naive. It really was a much more innocent age of computing. ;-)

    I wonder what header I'd have to use in my subject lines for all of my
    posts. I didn't see a "PATENT NONSENSE:" tag.



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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Aug 28 12:13:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:14:57 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    [actually, I more was surprised to learn Windows still
    had a command-line FTP client. It's been a long time
    since I used it... or plain old FTP, for that matter.]

    Yeah, it doesn't do PASV. I had to open up 20-21 to get it to work,
    something that I had totally forgot and banged my head against the wall
    for at least 5 minutes on.
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Aug 28 12:16:59 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:14:57 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:55:25 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:12:56 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    See what everybody thought was important to know in 1992!
    I actually opened up command line ftp to see if anything still existed!

    And? Well? Are any of them still working?

    Let us know so we can update the c.s.i.p.g FAQ. Else people won't know
    where they can download Doom and other shareware games! ;-)

    [actually, I more was surprised to learn Windows still
    had a command-line FTP client. It's been a long time
    since I used it... or plain old FTP, for that matter.]

    The best part of the FAQ for me was the suggestion that people use
    "FLAME:" in their topics for when they were just going to
    rant/flame/complain so people could filter it out if they wanted. The
    idea that people would have that much consideration was amazingly
    naive. It really was a much more innocent age of computing. ;-)

    I wonder what header I'd have to use in my subject lines for all of my
    posts. I didn't see a "PATENT NONSENSE:" tag.


    Really? I should think everyone would tag their post "IMPORTANT:" and
    then we'd be back to where we were.

    At the very least, every post you make should be tagged in this way. We
    should start doing tags just for fun and see how it works out.

    Recommendations:

    "FREEBIE:"
    "RANT:"
    "C-SUITE:"
    "TOMFOOLERY:"
    "SERIOUS:"
    "MYSOGYNY:"
    "NEEDLESSLY ARGUMENTATIVE:"
    "GETOFFMYLAWN:"
    "CURMUDGEON:"

    That last should apply to myself and Xocyll at the least.
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Aug 28 15:48:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:14:57 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:55:25 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:12:56 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >>>Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    See what everybody thought was important to know in 1992!
    I actually opened up command line ftp to see if anything still existed!

    And? Well? Are any of them still working?

    Let us know so we can update the c.s.i.p.g FAQ. Else people won't know >>where they can download Doom and other shareware games! ;-)

    [actually, I more was surprised to learn Windows still
    had a command-line FTP client. It's been a long time
    since I used it... or plain old FTP, for that matter.]

    The best part of the FAQ for me was the suggestion that people use
    "FLAME:" in their topics for when they were just going to >>rant/flame/complain so people could filter it out if they wanted. The
    idea that people would have that much consideration was amazingly
    naive. It really was a much more innocent age of computing. ;-)

    I wonder what header I'd have to use in my subject lines for all of my >>posts. I didn't see a "PATENT NONSENSE:" tag.


    Really? I should think everyone would tag their post "IMPORTANT:" and
    then we'd be back to where we were.

    At the very least, every post you make should be tagged in this way. We >should start doing tags just for fun and see how it works out.

    Recommendations:

    "FREEBIE:"
    "RANT:"
    "C-SUITE:"
    "TOMFOOLERY:"
    "SERIOUS:"
    "MYSOGYNY:"
    "NEEDLESSLY ARGUMENTATIVE:"
    "GETOFFMYLAWN:"
    "CURMUDGEON:"

    That last should apply to myself and Xocyll at the least.

    I'll be in the Curmudgeon Dudgeon Dungeon.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Aug 28 21:44:37 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    We need to resume this again!


    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    I miss the old FAQs that used to be posted in newsgroups. They were a convenient way for new users to get up to speed on bits of trivia that
    were commonly understood by other readers of the newsgroup. This was especially important in the Usenet heyday, when new users joined in
    record numbers, and it got really annoying answering the same
    questions over and over again. (Nowadays, with newsgroup populations
    so miniscule, we're glad for ANY traffic, even if its asking something
    we already answered last week ;-)

    Anyway, thanks to the pugleaf archive at https://i2pn2.pugleaf.net/groups/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games/ we can
    (briefly) relive those 'glory days' with a (completely unauthorized) reposting of the comp.sys.ibm.pc.games (note: no *.action yet!) FAQ.
    See what everybody thought was important to know in 1992!


    =========================================

    ADMIN: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games - Frequently Asked Questions - Read
    before posting
    From: warrenApple.COM
    Date: Wed, 13 May 1992 18:00


    Hi all! Here's the new FAQ for comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.
    Could you please review it and give me comments. It's
    basically similar to the r.g.m FAQ. I added
    some ideas for posting guidelines and a description of
    the new group. Someday, I'll update the hints section
    to include U7, and UW. (Or could people mail me
    answers to some of the most common spoilers about those games?
    thanx)

    Lemme know what you think

    Cheers
    Chris

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
    -------------------------
    ----------------------------- FAQ in 4 Parts
    -----------------------------
    ------------------------ Ver 1.0 - Rev date 5/7/92
    ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Contents:

    Part 1: General Questions

    The folowing questions are covered in part 1. You can search for
    the coresponding number with your editor if you want to skip to that
    question

    1: What is comp.sys.ibm.pc.games?
    2: What should I be aware of when posting to
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games?
    3: What are all these other game groups?
    4: What is a Spoiler?
    5: How should I post a spoiler?
    6: How do I FTP?
    7: Where can I download public domain games.
    8: Where can I get hints/solutions to games?
    9: Which sound board should I buy?
    10: Where to get the Sound Site Newsletter?
    11: Where can I get music players/music files/music
    editors/songs/etc. for my pc's music card?
    12: What is the difference between the Sound Blaster and the
    Sound Blaster Pro?
    13: My 386/33 and Sound Blaster seem incompatible. I get garbled
    music when playing Ultima6/SSI games/etc. What's wrong?
    14: Where can I get Infocom games? Can somebody mail me a copy
    (since they're out of business anyway (Is that legal?) What
    happened to them anyway?
    15: Where can I Buy/Get support for games.

    Part 2: Glossary

    Did you ever wonder about the meaning of IMHO, CoAB, LSL5, or any of
    the other acronyms that fly fast and furious in this group, look
    here for info.

    Part 3: FAQ -- Game Bugs

    Compilation of the most common spoiler/bug problems. They are
    arranged by game and are by no means comprehensive but they should
    help people who get stuck in areas of poor game design or just plain difficulty.

    Part 4: FAQ -- Game Spoilers

    Compilation of the most common spoiler/bug problems. They are
    arranged by game and are by no means comprehensive but they should
    help people who get stuck in areas of poor game design or just plain difficulty.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Administrivia/Soapbox:


    Hello, here is your friendly neighborhood FAQ [person, sacrafical
    lamb, lemming, ??? :]

    Welcome to the new group!

    There are still a few questions I need answers for.
    Please email me additions, corrections, or whatever and I will
    incorporate them in the next version.

    This FAQ will be posted every two weeks or so. For the time being,
    this will crossposted to rec.games.misc for purposes of smoothing
    the transition to the new group.

    Cheers
    Chris Warren (editor without cause)


    ------------------------ Part 1: General Questions
    -----------------------

    1: What is comp.sys.ibm.pc.games?

    A: This group arose out of rec.games.misc. For some time, that group
    had been dominated by discussions of MSDOS games. This has proved
    confusing to new people, and tended to starve out non MSDOS, non
    computer oriented traffic.

    The charter of this group is to provide a forum for the discussion of
    games for the IBM PC or compatible machines. This is not just limited
    to MS-DOS, but extends to OS/2, Windows and anything else which can
    run on an IBM PC compatible.

    For example (not comprehensive):
    o Discussion of upcoming games
    o Discussion of software companies
    o Discussion of current and past games
    o Requests for help
    o Hints and spoilers
    o Personal sales and trading of games. Not for commercial sales
    or piracy. Any risk assumed is your own.
    o Discussion of locations of new demos and ftp sites

    Certain games have their own newsgroup. These include the games: Corewar,Empire, Hack, Moria, and Rogue. See question three for more
    details. Questions pertaining to one of those games should be posted
    to that group, and possibly here if it is of general enough interest.

    Also certain games that come out on the PC tend to migrate to other platforms, so this group can serve as a resource for people with
    questions about those games as well.


    2: What should I be aware of when posting to this
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games?

    When you post an article there a few things you can do to make life
    easier for others.

    a) Subject Headers: Note the following is voluntary. It is being
    suggested because it will make everyone's life easier if people use
    it. However if you don't use it, the net.police are not going to haul
    you away (or flame you away:)

    Use an all caps prefix followed by a colon to indicate the type of
    message. This allows others to quicky find your article if it
    pertains to a particular topic. Here is a list of common prefixs.
    [feel free to suggest others or changes]

    HELP: Message asking for help in a game.
    Replies to these messages can often contain SPOILERS.
    SPOILER: A message which gives something away about a game and
    doesn't fall under HELP:
    BUG: Message about a bug in a game, how to get arround a
    particular bug, how to get patches to fix bugs, etc.
    TECHHELP: Message asking for help in getting a game to run on
    your machine.
    UPCOMING: Message talking about an upcomming game
    REVIEW: Message reviewing a particular game
    4SALE: Posting for personal sales or trading of games or
    game wanted. Not for commercial sales or piracy.
    Any risk assumed is your own.
    ADMIN: Administrative and group info type stuff.
    The FAQ falls under this category
    MISC: Misceleneous topic
    FLAME: Message whose primary purpose is to vent one's spleen.

    If you don't use a heading, then at least please use an indication
    of the game that you are talking about in the subject line. In any
    event, subject line should be indicative of the contents of the
    message.

    b) Understand about SPOILERS. See question 4.

    c) While it is OK to talk about removing copy protection for
    legitimate owners of games. It is NOT cool to talk about how to
    pirate software, or to post requests for pirated copies of software.
    There sometimes can be a fine line between these two so care should be
    taken with respect to these areas. It is all to easy to start a flame
    war...


    3: What are all these other game groups?

    A: bit.listserv.games-l -- This newsgroup is mostly
    for MS-DOS games, but since many
    people on bitnet have access to
    only bit.listserv.games-l you'll
    see all kinds of posts from Amiga
    questions to Nintendo questions.
    comp.sys.amiga.games -- Amiga specific games
    comp.sys.mac.games -- Macintosh specific games
    rec.arts.int-fiction -- Covers interactive fiction
    (generalized term that includes adventure
    games) from the standpoint of developing
    int-fiction as a new literary genre. For
    implementors of int-fiction more than
    players.
    rec.games.corewar -- Group for Core War, CRobots and other
    games that involve programming.
    rec.games.design -- General game design issues. Currently
    focuses on non computer based roleplaying
    games. Could be of interest to designers
    of CRPGs (Computer Role Playing Games)
    rec.games.frp -- Covers mostly non computer RPGs
    rec.games.mud -- Multi-User Dungeon
    rec.games.mud.lp -- Cool multiplayer Zork type games that
    you can hook onto over the internet.
    You text adventure type should check
    this, if you like the idea of playing
    in a zork game with other people where
    you can help build the universe!
    rec.games.pbm -- Discussion of play-by-mail games.
    rec.games.pinball -- Discussion of pinball, both for
    players of coin-op pinball games
    and pinball collectors.
    rec.games.programmer -- Discussion of the implementation and
    programming of computer games of all
    types.
    rec.games.rpg -- Unofficial newsgroup that is a visceral
    clone of rec.game.frp and a source of
    major irritation [read flamewars] for
    all involved. Be a net.person.good
    and use rec.games.frp :)
    [follow up this topic on alt.flame]
    rec.games.vectrex -- Discussion of the discontinued Vectrex
    vector graphics home game system.
    rec.games.video -- Discussion of dedicated home video
    game systems
    (i.e. Nintendo, Genesis) and the
    dedicated video game market in general.
    Computer games are occasionally
    discussed, especially those for older
    computers (i.e. Commodore 64, Atari
    8-bit, Apple II).
    rec.games.video.arcade -- A group for discussion of arcade games
    (in arcades). They discuss old classics
    as well as current games.

    [ PLEASE add to this list and/or the above descriptions ]


    4: What is a Spoiler?

    A: Anything that gives away information about a game, which could hurt
    a player's enjoyment of a game. It comes from "Spoil the Surprise."
    In this context it usually refers to the solution to a puzzle, or a description of the ending animation sequence for a game. Most people
    get really *pissed* if you post a spoiler with out a SPOILER WARNING.

    Example of a Spoiler [made up by Bryon Daly]
    This comes from *no* game (yet:)

    Hey guys:
    In Kazoos Of Doom, I just used the +3 Accordion Of Boredom to kill the
    guard and solve the riddle. Now I'm stuck on how to get down to the
    next level...


    5: How should I post a spoiler?

    A: At minimum you should include the word SPOILER in your subject
    line and a line in your message that indicates that a Spoiler follows.
    One way to do this is as follows:

    [SPOILER ALERT]
    ^L (control-L)
    24 carriage returns

    <text of spoiler>

    [END SPOILER ALERT]

    Spoilers should definitely include a form-feed character (control-L)
    to avoid 'giving away' the secrets. Use of multiple CR's to support
    readers in window oriented environments like the Mac is recommended in addition to the control-L. Some people argue with justification that newsreaders that don't support control-L as a pause are broken, and
    some people argue that control-L doesn't make sense in a window
    environment, but spoilers should definitely have a ^L included to
    follow usenet conventions - and support workstation readers who may
    have large screens.

    Details of inserting a cntl-L / form-feed depend very much on one's
    system and/or editor - the following advice may not work for everyone
    or even a majority of people.

    On some UNIX systems (maybe others), you have to type the "escape" key
    to enter a control. The escape key is _not_ the esc. You type ^V
    then ^L, and the ^L will be entered into the text. Otherwise, just a
    ^L will clear the screen.


    6: How do I FTP?

    A: [Thanks to John Gordon and Stephen M. Smith for most of what
    follows]

    [We are assuming that you are on a UNIX machine. If you are using
    something else, you are on you own. Sorry :( ]

    Directions

    1) From your system prompt, type "ftp <host-name>", where
    <host-name> is the name of the host machine that you are trying to get
    to.

    Example: "ftp cica.cica.indiana.edu". Note: In some cases you may not
    be able to use the name, you will have to use the IP address number.
    This number is 4 numbers separated by dots, i.e. "135.56.9.2". If you
    have to do it this way, you would type "ftp 135.56.9.2". Presumably
    you can obtain the IP number from the same place you got the
    host-name.

    Or use the /usr/etc/nslookup command to find the IP number from a
    machine name.

    2) When you connect to the host, you will have to enter a login
    and probably a password. Most sites support what is called "Anonymous
    FTP", this means that you enter "anonymous" as your login and then
    enter your real login as you password, i.e. "joe@comp.node.whatever".
    Some sites accept "ftp" as an anonymous login rather than "anonymous".
    I have heard that sysadmins rarely check what you entered for your
    password, but it is courteous to be truthful. NOTE: Most sites don't
    want you using anonymous FTP during prime-time, which is usually
    7am-6pm *local* time.

    Note: Local time can often be hard to determine just from a site's
    name.

    You can use the command "telnet <site> daytime" or, failing that,
    "telnet <site> 13", will give the system time at <site>.

    3) After you have successfully logged on, you can use "cd" and
    "ls", among other commands, to get where you want in the directory
    tree.

    4) Once you are in the correct directory and know what files
    you want, you can use "get" to copy single files, i.e. "get file1.c",
    or "mget" to copy multiple files, i.e. "mget *.zip". NOTE: If the
    files you are copying are not plain-text files, i.e. compressed files,
    binary data files, etc. you will want to set the transfer mode to
    binary. You can do this by entering "type binary". "binary" or
    "tenex" may also work.

    5) If you get stuck, you can type "help" or "?" and get a list of FTP commands that you can use. "man ftp" from your system prompt will
    also be helpful.

    6) If any of the files you copied have a .Z, .shar, and/or .tar
    extensions, you will have to play around with the files a bit before
    you can use them. Check out the man pages for the commands
    "uncompress" (for .Z files), "shar" (for .shar files), and "tar"
    (for .tar files).

    7) Software obtained this way will probably not have viruses, but you
    never know. Be careful out there. Note: I say that "it will probably
    not have viruses" because there is simply more "clean" software out
    there than there is "dirty" software, not because FTP is somehow
    inherently safer.


    Note: [thanks flee@guardian.cs.psu.edu]
    About ftping, what "binary" means is that the remote system is
    compatible with your system, and ftp will send an exact image of the
    file (Type I stands for Image). If, for example, both systems are
    Unix systems, then you can always use binary mode, even for retrieving
    text files. Binary mode will be a little faster, because the systems
    will not have to convert back and forth between local ascii and
    network ascii.

    Type tenex (L 8) is used to talk to DEC-10s and DEC-20s and other
    machines with 9-bit bytes. Machines with 8-bit bytes (which is nearly everyone else) need to specify the "L 8" type to send binary files to
    and from those machines.

    Of the ftp sites you list, I think WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL is the only
    host that needs type tenex.

    Example FTP session with Anotations

    ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu
    Connected to wuarchive.wustl.edu.
    220 wuarchive.wustl.edu FTP server (Version 6.11 Fri Aug 16 07:53:21
    CDT 1991)
    Name (wuarchive.wustl.edu:myname): anonymous [enter "anonymous" or "ftp" for sign-on name]
    331 Guest login ok, send e-mail address as password.
    Password: ["guest" usually works, otherwise put in your real email address for the password]
    230-Welcome, archive user! This is an experimental FTP server. If
    you 230-have any unusual problems, please report them via e-mail to 230-root@wuarchive.wustl.edu. If you do have problems, please try
    using a 230-dash (-) as the first character of your password -- this
    will turn off 230-the continuation messages that may be confusing your
    ftp client.
    230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
    cd /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/demos [change to the appropriate directory with the "cd" command, and make sure your directory dividers are "/" not "\"]
    250 CWD command successful.
    ls ["list" the contents of the directory; for a full description use "dir" or "ls -l"]
    200 PORT command successful.
    150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list.
    hover.zip
    lemmings.zip
    vectdemo.zip
    swotl.unp.txt.Z
    226 Transfer complete.
    56 bytes received in 0.03 seconds (1.8 Kbytes/s)
    binary [for any file OTHER than a text file, change to binary transfer by entering "binary"; some sites use the word(s) "tenex" or "type L 8" instead of "binary"; to change back to make a text (ASCII) transfer enter the word "ascii"]
    200 Type set to I.
    get hover.zip [enter "get (filename)" to transfer the file to your site from the remote site]
    200 PORT command successful.
    150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for hover.zip (424060 bytes).
    226 Transfer complete.
    local: hover.zip remote: hover.zip
    424060 bytes received in 38 seconds (11 Kbytes/s)
    quit [enter "quit" or "bye" to leave the ftp session]
    221 Goodbye.
    [you are returned to your system prompt]


    7: Where can I download public domain games.

    A: here are someplaces. [please post more]

    risc.ua.edu 130.160.4.7 pub/games/pc PC games[?]
    sumex-aim.stanford.edu 36.44.0.6 ??? Mac Software
    mac.archive.umich.edu 141.211.164.153 ??? Mac Software
    msdos.archive.umich.edu 141.211.164.153 ??? Dos Software
    Note: Last two are the same machine. Can be
    accessed by archive.umich.edu
    ftp.ulowell.edu 129.63.1.1 msdos\Games Apogee games,
    some demos, misc stuff
    grape.ecs.clarkson.edu 128.153.28.12 everywhere MSDOS games
    Note: The stuff at this archive is rather jumbled up,
    and games can be found in many directories


    Here is a place to get demos for games:

    wuarchive.wustl.edu /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/demos.
    ftp.ulowell.edu 129.63.1.1 /pub
    /msdos/Games/Demo

    Here are some random ftp sites that may have games

    aisun1.ai.uga.edu language processing, msdos
    iraun1.ira.uka.de ham-radio, msdos, internet
    mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu software, msdos, mac
    msdos.archive.umich.edu 03/01/91 anonymous/odin@pilot.njin.net
    novell.macc.wisc.edu msdos)
    procyon.cis.ksu.edu unix-pc, pd modula2, msdos,
    quiche.cs.mcgill.ca 132.206.51.1 sites, msdos, bible, Hubble
    rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de msdos, unix, mathematics
    schizo.samsung.com networking sw, msdos, gifs,
    sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au modula 3, msdos, aus.aarnet
    vaxb.acs.unt.edu msdos, amiga, midi, network
    wuarchive.wustl.edu 128.252.135.4 comp.sources.x, msdos,
    cc.sfu.ca 128.189.32.250 msdos, mac
    csc2.anu.edu.au 130.56.4.25 sun-fixes, RFCs, NCSA, msdos,
    doc.cso.uiuc.edu 128.174.33.105 msdos (pcsig), mac
    f.ms.uky.edu 128.163.128.6 mac, msdos, unix-pc
    garbo.uwasa.fi 128.214.12.37 msdos, win3, ts-progs, unix,
    grape.ecs.clarkson.edu 128.153.28.129 Opus BBS, msdos, graphics,
    iesd.auc.dk 130.225.48.4 amiga, mac, msdos, myth
    mars.ee.msstate.edu 130.18.64.3 msdos, amiga, mac, atari,
    meap.uta.edu 129.107.2.20 msdos engineering/science sw
    msdos.archive.umich.edu 141.211.165.34 msdos, mac
    mtsg.ubc.ca 137.82.27.1 msdos, unix, amiga, os2
    nic.funet.fi 128.214.6.100 GNU, X11, networking, msdos,
    orc.olivetti.com 129.189.192.20 msdos fax netinfo rfc
    peace.waikato.ac.nz 130.217.64.62 anu-news gnu msdos mac ncsa
    plains.nodak.edu 134.129.111.64 apple, msdos, mac, amiga,
    shasta.scl.cwru.edu 129.22.32.7 smail/pc, msdos, gif, packet
    sparky2.esd.mun.ca 134.153.11.101 NewPet and QuikPlot msdos
    sumex.edu ??? Mac Software
    um.cc.umich.edu 35.1.1.43 msdos, mac, apple, atari
    vega.hut.fi 130.233.200.42 msdos, mac, Kermit, fusion
    vmtecmex.cem.itesm.mx 132.254.1.4 amiga, msdos, gif
    vuwcom.vuw.ac.nz 130.195.2.10 kermit, mac, msdos, vms
    wsmr-simtel20.army.mil 192.88.110.20 msdos, unix, cpm, mac (tenex)


    NOTE: A simply massive ftplist can be downloaded from the Document
    Site:
    typhoon.Berkeley.EDU(128.32.184.254) in pub/Library
    This place has a lot of other documents also.


    8: Where can I get hints/solutions to games?

    A: See Part 3 of the FAQ for Frequently Asked Hints/Bugs or use ftp,
    see below.

    Here are ftp sites [please post more]

    risc.ua.edu 130.160.4.7 -- pub/games/solutions
    This is in the US, and it largely
    duplicates nic.funet.fi
    nic.funet.fi 128.214.6.100 -- pub/misc/games.solutions
    This is in Finland, and it largely
    duplicates risc.ua.edu
    NOTE: when ftp'ing to nic.funet.fi
    you MUST enter your email address as
    the password in order to be able to
    access the appropriate subdirectories!

    There are no walkthroughs on the Internet for the following games.
    [Thanks to Carl Hommel for this info]

    Ultima 4
    Bards Tale II
    Eye of the Beholder (postscript maps available from someplace in Oz)
    Might & Magic I, III (hint books cost $12)
    The SSI "Gold Box" games (hint books cost $15)
    Pool of Radiance
    Curse of the Azure Bonds
    Secret of the Silver Blades
    Pool of Darkness
    Wizardry I - V

    An EotB walkthrough is the *most* frequently asked walkthrough
    question. Earn eternal fame by being the first to write/upload one!

    The following solutions had been uploaded to risc.ua.edu...
    directory /pub/games/solutions
    most of them were written by me...

    sol.elvira - Elvira
    sol.elvira2 - Elvira II
    sol.eob2 - Eye of the Beholder II
    sol.geisha - Geisha (not done by me)
    sol.iceman - Codename : ICEMAN
    sol.kol - Knights of Legend
    sol.lostinla - Les Manley II - Lost in L.A.
    sol.martianmemorandam - Martian Memorandum
    sol.mm3 - Might & Magic III
    sol.monkey - Secret of Monkey Island
    sol.monkey2 - Secret of Monkey Island II
    sol.uukrul - The Dark Heart of Uukrul
    sol.willy - The Adventures of Willy Beamish
    sol.wizardry6 - Bane of the Cosmic Forge (not done by me)
    sol.zyca - Legend of the Zyca

    9: Which sound board should I buy?

    A: Read the sound site newsletter, which will tell you everything you
    ever wanted to know about sound*
    (* but were afraid to ask:)

    10: Where to get the Sound Site Newsletter?

    A: The Sound Site Newsletter is posted monthly or bimonthly to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games, comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc, and comp.sys.mac.misc
    under the subject heading "Sound Newsletter #?". If possible,
    obtain a copy from one of those newsgroups.

    The editor for the newsletter is David Komatsu; he may be reached at
    one of the following three email addresses: sound@ccb.ucsf.edu, davek@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu, and komatsu@aludra.usc.edu. For back
    issues of the Sound Site Newsletter, obtain the latest copy and follow
    the directions given in it.

    11: Where can I get music players/music files/music
    editors/songs/etc. for my pc's music card?

    A: Read the Sound Site Newsletter.


    12: What is the difference between the Sound Blaster and the Sound
    Blaster Pro?

    A: [??? will this be in the Sound Site Newsletter?]


    13: My 386/33 and Sound Blaster seem incompatible. I get garbled
    music when playing Ultima6/SSI games/etc. What's wrong?

    A: On some fast machines there are timing problems with certain
    game's software. Try turning off the cache or lowering the CPU speed.

    14: Where can I get Infocom games? Can somebody mail me a copy (since they're out of business anyway (Is that legal?) What happened to
    them anyway?

    A: The Lost Treasures of Infocom is now available at Electronic
    Boutiques and other fine stores everywhere. $59.95 list, EB price is
    $54.95. 20 Infocom games included - all the Zork series, HHGTTG, etc.
    Whatta deal - less than $3.00 a game!

    [The following author says he's not an infocom expert, so there may be
    some mistakes]

    Infocom went out of business and was purchased by Activision. It
    currently titles a line of non-text games (Battletech, etc). The
    widespread opinion of the net holds that copying of the games is still illegal/immoral, but there is good news: the latest word is that
    Activision is planning to release a bundle containing almost all the
    infocom games very soon.

    [Nathan Torkington writes]

    Infocom were bought by Mediagenic, and are now simply a label under
    which games are released. The most recent Infocom releases are
    graphical adventures, but Mediagenic have plans to release the classic Infocom text adventure games around Christmas.

    UK readers will be happy to learn that the games are available from
    Virgin Mastertronic (a budget software house in the US). I'll include
    a copy of my personal FAQ on how to get the games from Mastertronic.

    I have just a read a rumour that Mediagenic are bankrupt, but this is
    still *very* strongly a rumour. I will let you know should I hear
    more (I'm sure you're just *fascinated* :-). Should Mediagenic go
    under, I will spend mucho $$$ and ring them and find out what plans
    are in action for the Infocom label.

    Further to my post of a while back, Douglas Adams' "Hitchhiker's
    Guide to the Galaxy" adventure game is being reissued by Virgin
    Mastertronic. Their advertisement in the Aug/Dept 1991 "XS NRG"
    magazine (hey, it's not mine! - I wouldn't buy something with that
    tacky a title) shows the covers to
    The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
    Zork I
    PlanetFall
    Wishbringer
    Leather Goddesses of Phobos
    Zork II
    Zork III
    Enchanter
    Sorcerer
    Deadline

    and the text reads:
    Ten good reasons to use your imagination
    Classic infocom interactive fiction is back -- at an
    irresistible price.
    Available on PC, Amiga & ST : #9.99 (# == British pound)
    INFOCOM from Mastertronic
    For further information please contact:
    Customer Services
    Virgin Mastertronic Ltd
    16 Portland Road
    London W11 2LA
    Tel: 071 - 727 8070

    I hope this helps. Remember that if you write to them asking how to
    order the game, it would be a good idea to let them know how much you
    enjoy interactive fiction (text adventures). That way they may
    (re?)release more ..

    15: Where can I buy/get support for games?

    A: "Where to get..."

    Electronic Boutique has a toll-free order line. (800) 800-0032.
    [AmEx/MasterCard/VISA, personal check, Money Order].

    CompuAdd has a toll-free order line. (800) 627-1967.
    [Discover/MasterCard/VISA, certified check, Money Order].

    Egghead has toll-free order line. (800) 347 5400.
    [I assume major credit cards. Check? Money Order?]

    "Game Maker Support"

    A number of game companies have BBS systems that their customers
    can call to leave technical support questions, get updated game
    versions, find out product information, etc. The ones I've
    signed on to in the last month are:

    Accolade (408) 296-8800
    Microprose (301) 785-1841
    Origin (512) 328-8402
    Sierra (209) 683-4463 (*)

    (*) Hints for most of their games available online!

    Other useful BBS numbers:

    DAK (are we talking deals???) (818) 715-7153
    Logitech (mice, etc) (415) 795-0408


    Thanks sgil@netcom.netcom.com (Steve Gilbert) for this info

    -------------------------- Part 2: Glossary
    -------------------------------

    Note: Any time I use series in a description, it means that the word
    is usually followed by a number (sometimes a roman numeral)
    i.e. KQ5 or KQ V is King's Quest 5, the fifth installment of Kings
    Quest.


    Adlib Adlib -- A brand of Sound Card
    AD&D Advanced Dungeons & Dragons -- See rec.games.frp
    AG Adlib Gold -- Fancer version of Adlib that competes
    better with Sound Blaster
    BotCF Bane of the Cosmic Forge (Wizardry VI)
    -- Part of the Wizardy series by Sir Tech
    BT Bards Tale -- A fantasy roleplaying series
    from Electronic Arts
    BTW By The Way -- Expression used by net.people
    CGA Color Graphics Adapter -- Old style graphics
    adapter from IBM. This was used for
    ancient games [I think it was 320x200
    with 4 colors]
    CoAB Curse of the Azure Bonds -- Computer based AD&D
    game from SSI
    EGA Extended Graphics Adapter -- Previous generation
    of graphics adapter, used for most of
    older games. (includes a 320x200 16 color
    mode, which was the old standard for games)
    EOB,EoB Eye Of the Beholder -- mouse based AD&D game from SSI
    FAQ Frequently Asked ?s -- Self-explanatory
    FTP File Transfer Protocol -- Tool used to
    transfer files between two machines
    (usually UNIX machines)
    IMHO In My Humble (or Honest) Opinion
    -- Expression used by net.people
    IMNSHO In My Not So Humble/Honest Opinion
    -- Expression used by net.people
    LSL Leisure Suit Larry -- Siera Online adventure
    game series
    M&M Might and Magic -- A fantasy roleplaying series by
    New World Computing
    KQ King's Quest -- Siera Online adventure game series
    PBM Play By Mail -- Game (often RPG) that is played by mail PBEM,PBeM Play by Email -- Game (often PRG) that is played by EMail
    PC Personal Computer -- Usually implies "IBM-PC compatible"
    POD,PoD Pools of Darkness -- Computer based AD&D game from SSI
    POR,PoR Pool of Radiance -- Computer based AD&D game from SSI
    RTM Read The Manual
    RTFM Read The F_CKIN Manual-- Phrases used by people who
    don't have the time/patience/desire
    to help those who have a question.
    This editor personally dislikes this
    because it sends the message Read
    the Manual Stupid. Some things are
    not always clear to others and they
    have as much a right to ask their
    questions as we have to ask ours.
    SB Sound Blaster -- A brand of Sound Card
    SQ Space Quest -- Siera Online adventure game series
    SSI Strategic Simulations Inc -- A game company that
    makes the AD&D computer games,
    among others.
    SSB Secret of the Silver Blades -- Computer based
    AD&D game from SSI
    U Ultima -- A fantasy roleplaying series by Origin
    VGA Video Graphics Array -- Current graphics adpater
    "du jour" of the game companies. It
    is required for newer games that use
    256 colors at 320x200
    SVGA Super VGA -- higher resolution 256 color modes
    that come on 3rd party graphics cards
    (includes 640x480,800x600,and 1024x768)
    see comp.sys.ibm.cp.hardware for more
    info
    WC Wing Commander -- Popular space flight simulator
    series from Origin
    Wiz Wizardy -- A fantasy roleplaying series by
    Sir Tech

    [Please post additions and corrections]

    ---------------------------- Part 3: Game Bugs
    ----------------------------

    This section cover some common game bug situations. It contains no
    Spoilers other than where a bug in the game prevents the player from
    finding out the info.


    Might and Magic III
    Sierra Games (General)
    Leisure Suit Larry 5
    Monkey Island
    Ultima 6
    Spellcasting 101
    Eye of the Beholder
    Wing Commander 1
    Wing Commander I,II cheat


    Might and Magic III

    Q: Why does brother Zeta never talk to me, even though I have visted
    brother Delta, who told me to go see him.

    A: This is a bug in the game. Zeta is supposed to tell you that you
    can find the shell on day 99. Also Zeta is the last of the brothers.

    Q: What is the magic number that lord might wants in the Arachnoid
    Caverent?

    A: [I don't remember the #. Someone please post]
    There is a bug in the game, that makes it [nearly] impossible to
    compute the number based on the clues, and besides, it's tedious. If
    you wait til later (nothing really depends on this quest), you will
    come across the answer elsewhere.


    Sierra Games (General)

    Q: I have several games from Sierra (and the associated company
    Dynamix), e.g. King's Quest V, Stellar 7, etc. When I install these
    programs with sound set to sound blaster (I have a version 2.0 sound
    blaster--not pro) my system hangs. If I set them to adlib board then
    they seem to work fine but I guess I am potentially missing out on any digitised sound effects. I had the same problem with Martian
    Memorandum but its manual gave instructions on how to change the
    interrupt from 3 (used on older sound blaster boards) to 7 (used on
    newer boards -- and what mine uses as reported by TEST-SBC). This
    change fixed things up perfectly. [What can I do?]

    A: I had the same problem with both Martian Memorandum and the Sierra
    games. I solved the problem with Martian Merorandum the same way as
    you. As for the Sierra games, when I talked to their tech support
    they indicated that there was no difference between Addlib mode and SB
    mode (I'm not sure about Dynamix however.) So I don't think you're
    missing much.


    Leisure Suit Larry 5

    Q: What happened to Leisure Suit Larry 4?

    A: According to a newsletter(or game mag) I read somewhere, after
    completing LSL3, the author swore he would never do a part 4. So as a
    man of the highest moral caliber *grin*, he kept his word and did part
    5 instead.

    Another answer is: it appears in the game Space Quest IV, so they had
    to roll the release number when they built LSL 5.


    Monkey Island

    Q: I can't get this game to run with Soundblaster (in Adlib mode) on
    my fast (33MHZ 486) machine.

    A: try running in 8MHZ mode. There is a bug that makes their Adlib
    driver fail on the fast machine.

    Ultima 6

    Q: I'm trying to install Ultima 6 for the Soundblaster. How do I do
    it?

    A: Choose Adlib and use all its default values. It will work fine.


    Q: What if I did the above and the music still doesn't sound right?

    A: Then you are in the same situation as the editor was. He called
    Origin and they told him to get the CMS chipset. He did this and
    played the game in CMS mode.


    Spellcasting 101

    Q: I have Spellcasting 101, for my IBM but I have a SoundBlaster Pro
    sound card. The packaging with S101 says that the game only uses the
    adlib sound card but only when you have run SOUND.COM.

    A: When you installed S101, it put the file SB_SOUND.COM in your S101 directory. This is the program to run before starting S101.

    [thanks to Sam Fineberg for this info]
    Thanks to Andrew Robinson I found sound.com included in an ad-lib demo
    called dpdemo. This is available on nic.funet.fi among other places
    in the directory /pub/msdos/sound/adlib. The file is called
    dpdemo.lzh.
    Included in this archive is the original ad-lib sound.com driver.
    This worked perfectly with my SoundBlaster.
    Please take note of case as most of these machines are case sensitive.
    I found that for this file to work, the Soundblaster board has to be
    set to the default address (0220H).


    Eye of the Beholder

    Q: Where can I obtain maps for the different levels?

    A: They are available as .gif files at wuarchive.wustl.edu in
    /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS. The file names are level-01.gif through
    level-12.gif.

    brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (130.102.128.5), in directory /pub/eob.
    This site is in Australia.


    The EOB maps were removed from wuarchive.wustl.edu.
    But someone just (12/18/91) posted the following note in
    bit.listserv.games-l:

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    I've just uploaded the maps for Eye of the Beholder 1 to the ftp
    site wuarchive.wustl.edu in the directory MSDOS_UPLOADS under
    the filename eobmaps.zip.
    (path \pub\MSDOS_UPLOADS)

    The twelve maps have been PKzipped into one file. Just do a binary
    ftp get on the file eobmaps.zip. When PKunzipped, it will explode
    into the twelve separate maps.

    If you have any trouble with this file and blame it on the original
    at the ftp site, please let me know so I can check and see if I did
    something wrong.



    Wing Commander 1

    Q: Where can I get the wc.exe with the joystick fix?

    A: wuarchive.wustl.edu in /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS. It's called
    wc1joyfx.zip


    Wing Commander I,II

    Q: What is the alt-del cheat in Wing Commander I [thanks Bill
    Poitras]

    A: The alt-del cheat is part of a mode that origin put in the Wing
    Commander games. you start the game wc Origin
    sm2 Origin
    wc2 Origin

    And when you hit Alt-Del, the targetted ship explodes. Lock is not
    neccessary. If you hit Alt-Ins, then all the enemy fighters blow
    up, but not capital ships. If you start the executable up with -k
    Origin, then your ship is invicible!!!

    ---------------------------- Part 4: Game Spoilers ----------------------------


    [SPOILER ALERT]

    This section contains common spoiler/bug/cheat questions for certain
    games.
    Games covered are:

    Might and Magic III
    Lemmings

    [We may want to break this off into a separate FAQ -- SPOILERS]


    [SPOILER ALERT]





    This section is for commonly asked questions about particular games,
    that haven't or will never make it to the hint/solutions area. Feel
    free to post or email me updates and addtions to this list. Also let
    me know when walkthroughs become available so I can delete them from
    here. We should try keep these to 2-4 questions per game.


    Might and Magic III

    Q: What goes up and down but never moves?
    A: STAIRS


    Q: What turns everything around but does not move?
    A: MIRROR


    Lemmings

    Q: How do I get a lemming to turn round?
    A: [thanks Adrian Hurt]
    Make the lemming dig vertically, until the top of his head is level
    with the floor from which he started digging. Then make him build.
    The pit which he has just dug should be small enough that he can get
    out of it without being a climber, but large enough that he doesn't
    keep building over the side - the ladder will hit the side, then he
    will stop building and turn round.

    Q: How do I complete Tricky Level 23?
    A: [thanks Adrian Hurt]
    Use both bashers to get through the big barrier in the middle - two
    bashers work faster than one. Once some lemmings are in the pit on
    the right of the barrier, make one a climber. Just before this
    lemming gets to the exit, turn him round as described above. Then
    make him a miner, so he digs a diagonal tunnel into the pit, up which
    the other lemmings can go to the exit.



    [Others?]



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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Aug 29 12:53:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 21:44:37 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Aug 29 11:13:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 8/29/2025 9:53 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 21:44:37 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?


    What did you play last month :P
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Aug 29 23:25:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 21:44:37 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Sure: Use my very old http://ants.pbworks.com? :P


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    A FAQ: WTF is c.s.i.p.games newsgroup? Hahaha. ;)
    --
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Aug 29 23:28:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    What and where are the free games? :P
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Aug 30 11:08:28 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 11:13:14 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    On 8/29/2025 9:53 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?


    What did you play last month :P

    Touché. That indeed is the most frequently asked question in this
    newsgroup (asked monthly for almost twenty years now).

    But what is the Frequently Responded Answer to that question?

    (I mean, I could tell you... but not for another two days ;-)


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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Aug 30 11:15:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 23:25:56 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 21:44:37 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Sure: Use my very old http://ants.pbworks.com? :P


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    A FAQ: WTF is c.s.i.p.games newsgroup? Hahaha. ;)

    Actually, that was a common "first question" of most newsgroup FAQs;
    e.g., "what is this newsgroup all about".

    If you were really going to do it, you'd also have to explain the
    existence of the other newsgroups (including the root c.s.i.p.games
    newsgroup) and that, while they still exist, you're best chance of a
    response is to post to c.s.i.p.g.action regardless of the genre.

    See? Now you have several questions for your FAQ! The job is
    practically done already. So get started! ;-)


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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Aug 30 23:14:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:08:28 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 11:13:14 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    On 8/29/2025 9:53 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?


    What did you play last month :P

    Touché. That indeed is the most frequently asked question in this
    newsgroup (asked monthly for almost twenty years now).

    But what is the Frequently Responded Answer to that question?

    (I mean, I could tell you... but not for another two days ;-)

    Hello Kitty Island Adventure

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2495100/Hello_Kitty_Island_Adventure/

    But no one will admit to it, so it doesn't matter how much you count "responses." That is what everyone is playing. We only live in Hello
    Kitty's world.
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Aug 30 23:21:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:15:13 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 23:25:56 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 21:44:37 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Sure: Use my very old http://ants.pbworks.com? :P


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    A FAQ: WTF is c.s.i.p.games newsgroup? Hahaha. ;)

    Actually, that was a common "first question" of most newsgroup FAQs;
    e.g., "what is this newsgroup all about".

    If you were really going to do it, you'd also have to explain the
    existence of the other newsgroups (including the root c.s.i.p.games >newsgroup) and that, while they still exist, you're best chance of a
    response is to post to c.s.i.p.g.action regardless of the genre.

    See? Now you have several questions for your FAQ! The job is
    practically done already. So get started! ;-)

    "This newsgroup is the gaming equivalent of Gilligan's Island. After a metaphorical three-hour tour through all the subgroups, which were hit by
    a terrible storm, we all wound up here. The tiny ship of c.s.i.p.games
    was rocked, and ran aground on the island of "action." Sure, there are
    other groups named comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.[thingy] -- or even the main
    group! -- but this is the only place that matters because it's the only
    one with traffic. Only pedants use the other subgroups, because we used
    to care if rpg talk was in .rpg, because there was a *lot* of traffic.
    Now we all live on this island, and we're happy here.

    "Think of it as a vast ecosystem that was hit by a plague. All but one
    island, Gilligan's, is bereft of life, and therefore purpose. What's left
    is us. We're on Gilligan's Island, "aka" comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    and we're not putting down our coconuts. Grab one, hook up some string,
    and stay a while."

    How's that for a starter?
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 04:22:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September
    1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 04:23:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 23:25:56 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 21:44:37 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Sure: Use my very old http://ants.pbworks.com? :P


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    A FAQ: WTF is c.s.i.p.games newsgroup? Hahaha. ;)

    Actually, that was a common "first question" of most newsgroup FAQs;
    e.g., "what is this newsgroup all about".

    If you were really going to do it, you'd also have to explain the
    existence of the other newsgroups (including the root c.s.i.p.games newsgroup) and that, while they still exist, you're best chance of a
    response is to post to c.s.i.p.g.action regardless of the genre.

    See? Now you have several questions for your FAQ! The job is
    practically done already. So get started! ;-)

    Pay me. /s
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Aug 30 23:42:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September
    1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 10:27:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 23:14:06 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:08:28 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 11:13:14 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:
    On 8/29/2025 9:53 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?


    What did you play last month :P

    Touché. That indeed is the most frequently asked question in this
    newsgroup (asked monthly for almost twenty years now).

    But what is the Frequently Responded Answer to that question?

    (I mean, I could tell you... but not for another two days ;-)

    Hello Kitty Island Adventure

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2495100/Hello_Kitty_Island_Adventure/

    But no one will admit to it, so it doesn't matter how much you count >"responses." That is what everyone is playing. We only live in Hello
    Kitty's world.

    <breaks down crying>

    It's true! It's all true! Sure I tell people I'm playing "Doom" or
    "Dead Space" or even "EuroTruck Simulator", but it's really "Hello
    Kitty Adventure", all the time! Flying with balloons, cooking in the
    kitchen, hanging out with Pompompurin and Cinnamoroll; there's no time
    to play anything else.

    <sniffle>

    "Hello Kitty Adventure" is all there is in my life. Please don't take
    it away from me.


    ;-)



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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 10:35:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 23:21:25 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:15:13 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 23:25:56 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 21:44:37 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Sure: Use my very old http://ants.pbworks.com? :P


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    A FAQ: WTF is c.s.i.p.games newsgroup? Hahaha. ;)

    Actually, that was a common "first question" of most newsgroup FAQs;
    e.g., "what is this newsgroup all about".

    If you were really going to do it, you'd also have to explain the
    existence of the other newsgroups (including the root c.s.i.p.games >>newsgroup) and that, while they still exist, you're best chance of a >>response is to post to c.s.i.p.g.action regardless of the genre.

    See? Now you have several questions for your FAQ! The job is
    practically done already. So get started! ;-)

    "This newsgroup is the gaming equivalent of Gilligan's Island. After a >metaphorical three-hour tour through all the subgroups, which were hit by
    a terrible storm, we all wound up here. The tiny ship of c.s.i.p.games
    was rocked, and ran aground on the island of "action." Sure, there are
    other groups named comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.[thingy] -- or even the main
    group! -- but this is the only place that matters because it's the only
    one with traffic. Only pedants use the other subgroups, because we used
    to care if rpg talk was in .rpg, because there was a *lot* of traffic.
    Now we all live on this island, and we're happy here.

    "Think of it as a vast ecosystem that was hit by a plague. All but one >island, Gilligan's, is bereft of life, and therefore purpose. What's left
    is us. We're on Gilligan's Island, "aka" comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    and we're not putting down our coconuts. Grab one, hook up some string,
    and stay a while."

    How's that for a starter?

    LOL. I approve!

    But boy, did we really used to care about which game got discussed in
    which newsgroup. The flame wars could get intense if you dared post
    about "Wing Commander" in *.action instead of *.flightsim! Talking
    about an adventure game in *.rpg? Get thee hence, heretic! Was "Sim
    City" a strategy game or simulation? Both sides would happily roast
    you for disagreeing and posting incorrectly. And mentioning "Doom"
    anywhere but *.action was practically a death sentence!

    Made all the worse by how, in the 90s, developers were purposefully
    straying from the old genre pigeonholes. 90s Usenet would go fucking
    insane if they had to deal with modern gaming, where every title has
    RPG elements, action elements, strategy elements, and the world design
    is so sophisticated you can declare it a simulation too. The flame
    wars would rival the sun's core in heat ;-)


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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 10:38:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September
    1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;





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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 13:38:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 10:35:19 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    90s Usenet would go fucking
    insane if they had to deal with modern gaming, where every title has
    RPG elements, action elements, strategy elements, and the world design
    is so sophisticated you can declare it a simulation too. The flame
    wars would rival the sun's core in heat ;-)

    Yeah. Given '20s gaming, we'd probably all have started discussing every
    game in .action anyways, simply out of sheer frustration. Even Telltale's Batman point-and-click adventure game has quicktime sequences, IIRC.

    But we'd never post to the main group. That thing is a mess! Hell, I've
    never even pulled the main group because I don't have enough drive space
    to retain all those posts.
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 15:45:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them
    onboard.

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 15:54:45 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 15:45:27 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Xocyll wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>>1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them >onboard.

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Oh Christ. As if Australia wasn't dangerous enough as it is!
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 15:21:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 8/31/2025 12:45 PM, Xocyll wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September
    1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them onboard.

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Kangantaroos.
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 23:11:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.
    --
    "Do not envy a violent man or choose any of his ways, for the Lord detests a perverse man but takes the upright into his confidence." --Proverbs 3:31-32. :) Labor Day eve, USA!
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 23:12:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them onboard.

    I resumed flying last year after 31 yrs. :P


    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Where can I find this doctor?
    --
    "Do not envy a violent man or choose any of his ways, for the Lord detests a perverse man but takes the upright into his confidence." --Proverbs 3:31-32. :) Labor Day eve, USA!
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 23:13:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 15:45:27 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Xocyll wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>>1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them >onboard.

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Oh Christ. As if Australia wasn't dangerous enough as it is!

    USA is worse now. :(
    --
    "Do not envy a violent man or choose any of his ways, for the Lord detests a perverse man but takes the upright into his confidence." --Proverbs 3:31-32. :) Labor Day eve, USA!
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 18:45:00 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 23:13:19 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 15:45:27 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Xocyll wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >> >>>1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them
    onboard.

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Oh Christ. As if Australia wasn't dangerous enough as it is!

    USA is worse now. :(

    Yeah. But not due to abortions of evolution (that aren't human)!
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From vallor@vallor@cultnix.org to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Sep 1 00:46:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 23:12:48 -0000 (UTC), Ant wrote:

    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it
    September 1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them
    onboard.

    I resumed flying last year after 31 yrs. :P


    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Where can I find this doctor?

    On his island, of course.

    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/159
    --
    -Scott System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G
    OS: Linux 6.16.4 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18
    NVIDIA: 580.76.05 Mem: 258G
    "A closed mind gathers no intelligence"
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  • From vallor@vallor@cultnix.org to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Sep 1 00:49:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 00:46:03 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 23:12:48 -0000 (UTC), Ant wrote:

    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading
    the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the
    signs say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it
    September 1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them
    onboard.

    I resumed flying last year after 31 yrs. :P


    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Where can I find this doctor?

    On his island, of course.

    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/159

    And if you are from my generation...

    Oingo Boing song is relevant:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10tcb1RfOE4
    --
    -Scott System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090Ti 24G
    OS: Linux 6.16.4 D: Mint 22.1 DE: Xfce 4.18
    NVIDIA: 580.76.05 Mem: 258G
    "One great thing about cats - they don't bark."
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  • From PW@iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Aug 31 21:02:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 23:42:14 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    *--

    Me too!!!! :-)

    -pw
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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Sep 1 05:53:39 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 8/31/2025 12:45 PM, Xocyll wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>>> 1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them
    onboard.

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Kangantaroos.

    That name implies a little bit of ant in a lot of kangaroo, when it
    could be the other way around or more like 50:50. The names I used
    reflect a blend of two, not just a bit of one added to the other.

    Oh and a large number of people would just assume you misspelled
    kangaroo and didn't have auto-correct on.

    Oh yeah, and I forgot Wallabies which would end up being Wallabants
    (because Antabys would be pronounced Ant-a-Bees and be confusing as to
    what was in it.)

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Sep 1 06:30:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 8/30/2025 9:21 PM, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:15:13 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    If you were really going to do it, you'd also have to explain the
    existence of the other newsgroups (including the root c.s.i.p.games
    newsgroup) and that, while they still exist, you're best chance of a
    response is to post to c.s.i.p.g.action regardless of the genre.

    See? Now you have several questions for your FAQ! The job is
    practically done already. So get started! ;-)

    "This newsgroup is the gaming equivalent of Gilligan's Island. After a metaphorical three-hour tour through all the subgroups, which were hit by
    a terrible storm, we all wound up here. The tiny ship of c.s.i.p.games
    was rocked, and ran aground on the island of "action." Sure, there are
    other groups named comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.[thingy] -- or even the main
    group! -- but this is the only place that matters because it's the only
    one with traffic. Only pedants use the other subgroups, because we used
    to care if rpg talk was in .rpg, because there was a *lot* of traffic.
    Now we all live on this island, and we're happy here.

    "Think of it as a vast ecosystem that was hit by a plague. All but one island, Gilligan's, is bereft of life, and therefore purpose. What's left
    is us. We're on Gilligan's Island, "aka" comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    and we're not putting down our coconuts. Grab one, hook up some string,
    and stay a while."

    How's that for a starter?


    There's still a couple hermits hanging out on CSIPG.RPG it seems. I
    haven't checked the others in ages, so there could be someone elsewhere.
    --
    -Justisaur

    ø-ø
    (\_/)\
    `-'\ `--.___,
    ¶¬'\( ,_.-'
    \\
    ^'
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Sep 1 06:34:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 8/31/2025 11:38 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 10:35:19 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    90s Usenet would go fucking
    insane if they had to deal with modern gaming, where every title has
    RPG elements, action elements, strategy elements, and the world design
    is so sophisticated you can declare it a simulation too. The flame
    wars would rival the sun's core in heat ;-)

    Yeah. Given '20s gaming, we'd probably all have started discussing every
    game in .action anyways, simply out of sheer frustration. Even Telltale's Batman point-and-click adventure game has quicktime sequences, IIRC.

    But we'd never post to the main group. That thing is a mess! Hell, I've
    never even pulled the main group because I don't have enough drive space
    to retain all those posts.


    If you're talking about cspig with nothing after that doesn't even seem
    to be available on Eternal-September.
    --
    -Justisaur

    ø-ø
    (\_/)\
    `-'\ `--.___,
    ¶¬'\( ,_.-'
    \\
    ^'
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Sep 1 11:20:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 06:30:31 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:


    There's still a couple hermits hanging out on CSIPG.RPG it seems. I
    haven't checked the others in ages, so there could be someone elsewhere.

    *.strategy gets a handful of comments here and there too. Most of the
    newest *.adventure comments seem to be crossposts from here, though.
    The others are even less active.

    No, for better or worse, *.action is the place to be.




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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Sep 1 11:54:25 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 06:34:11 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Justisaur wrote:

    On 8/31/2025 11:38 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 10:35:19 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    90s Usenet would go fucking
    insane if they had to deal with modern gaming, where every title has
    RPG elements, action elements, strategy elements, and the world design
    is so sophisticated you can declare it a simulation too. The flame
    wars would rival the sun's core in heat ;-)

    Yeah. Given '20s gaming, we'd probably all have started discussing every
    game in .action anyways, simply out of sheer frustration. Even Telltale's
    Batman point-and-click adventure game has quicktime sequences, IIRC.

    But we'd never post to the main group. That thing is a mess! Hell, I've
    never even pulled the main group because I don't have enough drive space
    to retain all those posts.


    If you're talking about cspig with nothing after that doesn't even seem
    to be available on Eternal-September.

    Whoosh.
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Sep 1 11:55:19 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 11:20:44 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 06:30:31 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:


    There's still a couple hermits hanging out on CSIPG.RPG it seems. I >>haven't checked the others in ages, so there could be someone elsewhere.

    *.strategy gets a handful of comments here and there too. Most of the
    newest *.adventure comments seem to be crossposts from here, though.
    The others are even less active.

    No, for better or worse, *.action is the place to be.

    Yup. The other subs are for pedants and old men with good Usenet hygeine habits.
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Sep 2 02:22:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    ...
    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Where can I find this doctor?

    On his island, of course.

    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/159

    Oh, like Far Cry 1 game. :P
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Sep 2 22:00:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:11 this Sunday (GMT):
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September
    1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.


    But why? :(
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Sep 2 22:00:07 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:12 this Sunday (GMT):
    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September
    1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them
    onboard.

    im pretty sure some ants can if they like link together

    I resumed flying last year after 31 yrs. :P

    some ants have wings :)

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Where can I find this doctor?


    That is terrifying.
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Sep 2 22:10:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote at 16:55 this Monday (GMT):
    On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 11:20:44 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 06:30:31 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:


    There's still a couple hermits hanging out on CSIPG.RPG it seems. I >>>haven't checked the others in ages, so there could be someone elsewhere.

    *.strategy gets a handful of comments here and there too. Most of the >>newest *.adventure comments seem to be crossposts from here, though.
    The others are even less active.

    No, for better or worse, *.action is the place to be.

    Yup. The other subs are for pedants and old men with good Usenet hygeine habits.


    I've only seen a handful of posts in *.strategy.
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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Sep 2 19:08:48 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
    looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The
    Augury is good, the signs say:

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:12 this Sunday (GMT):
    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>> >>1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them
    onboard.

    im pretty sure some ants can if they like link together

    Not over an ocean crossing from Aus.

    I resumed flying last year after 31 yrs. :P

    some ants have wings :)

    Again, Australia to North America is a 24 hr trip in a jet, a flying ant
    would take weeks, if it had the infinite stamina to fly and stay awake
    that long.

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Where can I find this doctor?

    That is terrifying.

    Indeed.

    Xocyll
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Sep 3 00:24:55 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:11 this Sunday (GMT):
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do >> >> > we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >> >1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.

    But why? :(

    Because... :P
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Sep 3 00:27:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    ...
    I resumed flying last year after 31 yrs. :P

    some ants have wings :)

    Only virgin queens and male alates. Queens remove their wings after they
    mate. Males die after they mate with such short lives. That's why I am
    still alive as an old virgin male. I even removed my wings. :P


    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Where can I find this doctor?

    That is terrifying.

    Nah.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Sep 2 17:49:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 9/2/2025 5:24 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:11 this Sunday (GMT):
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ! >>>>>>>
    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do >>>>>>> we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>>>> 1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.

    But why? :(

    Because... :P

    Because he's got nothing better to do.
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Sep 3 20:10:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 9/2/2025 5:24 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:11 this Sunday (GMT):
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ! >>>>>>>>
    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do >>>>>>>> we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>>>>> 1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.

    But why? :(

    Because... :P

    Because he's got nothing better to do.


    get a hobby smh
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Sep 3 16:27:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 00:24:55 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:11 this Sunday (GMT):
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do >> >> >> > we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >> >> >1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.

    But why? :(

    Because... :P

    Seems a valid enough reason for me! Down with the evil Spalls! Let the
    Ant revolution begin! Picnics and aphid honeydew for everyone!

    I for one welcome our new insect overlords, yadda yadda, be helpful in
    rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves etc.



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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Sep 3 22:31:31 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 9/2/2025 5:24 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:11 this Sunday (GMT):
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ! >>>>>>>>
    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do >>>>>>>> we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>>>>> 1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.

    But why? :(

    Because... :P

    Because he's got nothing better to do.

    get a hobby smh

    Internet and gaming are my hobbies. :P
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Sep 3 22:32:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September
    1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.

    But why? :(

    Because... :P

    Seems a valid enough reason for me! Down with the evil Spalls! Let the
    Ant revolution begin! Picnics and aphid honeydew for everyone!

    I for one welcome our new insect overlords, yadda yadda, be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves etc.

    "The Simpsons did it first!"
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Sep 3 17:35:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 9/3/2025 1:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 9/2/2025 5:24 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:11 this Sunday (GMT):
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ! >>>>>>>>>
    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do >>>>>>>>> we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>>>>>> 1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.

    But why? :(

    Because... :P

    Because he's got nothing better to do.


    get a hobby smh

    Being a genius glutious maximus is my profession, not a hobby.
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Sep 4 14:00:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote at 23:08 this Tuesday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
    looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The
    Augury is good, the signs say:

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:12 this Sunday (GMT):
    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>>> >>1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them >>>> onboard.

    im pretty sure some ants can if they like link together

    Not over an ocean crossing from Aus.

    I resumed flying last year after 31 yrs. :P

    some ants have wings :)

    Again, Australia to North America is a 24 hr trip in a jet, a flying ant would take weeks, if it had the infinite stamina to fly and stay awake
    that long.

    oh yea the size difference is easy to forget lol

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know >>>> we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Where can I find this doctor?

    That is terrifying.

    Indeed.

    Xocyll


    indeedy
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Sep 4 14:00:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 00:27 this Wednesday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    ...
    I resumed flying last year after 31 yrs. :P

    some ants have wings :)

    Only virgin queens and male alates. Queens remove their wings after they mate. Males die after they mate with such short lives. That's why I am
    still alive as an old virgin male. I even removed my wings. :P

    interesting :D

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Where can I find this doctor?

    That is terrifying.

    Nah.


    wdym??
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Sep 4 14:00:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:35 this Thursday (GMT):
    On 9/3/2025 1:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 9/2/2025 5:24 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>>>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:11 this Sunday (GMT):
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ! >>>>>>>>>>
    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do >>>>>>>>>> we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>>>>>>> 1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.

    But why? :(

    Because... :P

    Because he's got nothing better to do.


    get a hobby smh

    Being a genius glutious maximus is my profession, not a hobby.


    didnt know you could be a professional in that
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Sep 4 10:00:46 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 22:31:31 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:




    Internet and gaming are my hobbies. :P

    Violent overthrow of evil dictators is just a side gig, apparently

    Down with the Spallsopoly! ;-)


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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Sep 4 07:18:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 9/4/2025 7:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:35 this Thursday (GMT):
    On 9/3/2025 1:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 9/2/2025 5:24 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote: >>>>>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:11 this Sunday (GMT):
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ! >>>>>>>>>>>
    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September
    1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.

    But why? :(

    Because... :P

    Because he's got nothing better to do.


    get a hobby smh

    Being a genius glutious maximus is my profession, not a hobby.


    didnt know you could be a professional in that

    I'm fully trained and accredited.
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    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Sep 4 14:43:42 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 10:00:46 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 22:31:31 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:




    Internet and gaming are my hobbies. :P

    Violent overthrow of evil dictators is just a side gig, apparently

    Down with the Spallsopoly! ;-)

    Is it time to execute order #66 my liege?
    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Sep 4 23:39:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 10:00:46 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 22:31:31 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:




    Internet and gaming are my hobbies. :P

    Violent overthrow of evil dictators is just a side gig, apparently

    Down with the Spallsopoly! ;-)

    Is it time to execute order #66 my liege?

    /me nods.
    --
    "For you make me glad by your deeds, O Lord; I sing for joy at the works of your hands." --Psalm 92. Quiety hotty Thursday? Dang bugs again!
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Sep 4 23:41:01 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    ...
    I resumed flying last year after 31 yrs. :P

    some ants have wings :)

    Again, Australia to North America is a 24 hr trip in a jet, a flying ant would take weeks, if it had the infinite stamina to fly and stay awake
    that long.

    I'm too old and weak to fly if I still kept my wings. :P


    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know >>> we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Where can I find this doctor?

    That is terrifying.

    Indeed.

    com


    Xocyll

    :P
    --
    "For you make me glad by your deeds, O Lord; I sing for joy at the works of your hands." --Psalm 92. Quiety hotty Thursday? Dang bugs again!
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
    | |o o| |
    \ _ /
    ( )
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  • From Mike S.@Mike_S@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Sep 5 08:53:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:43:42 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Is it time to execute order #66 my liege?

    Do it.
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Sep 5 10:38:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 14:43:42 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Thu, 04 Sep 2025 10:00:46 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 22:31:31 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Internet and gaming are my hobbies. :P

    Violent overthrow of evil dictators is just a side gig, apparently
    Down with the Spallsopoly! ;-)

    Is it time to execute order #66 my liege?

    <nerdmode type=starwars>
    Actually, either Order 5 or Order 65 might be more appropriate. The
    former has the troops take command if the chancellor is declared unfit
    for duty; the latter has them remove the chancellor so that his
    designated successor can assume command.
    </nerdmode>

    Either way, orders are issued. Take no prisoners.



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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Sep 6 11:53:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 22:31:31 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:




    Internet and gaming are my hobbies. :P

    Violent overthrow of evil dictators is just a side gig, apparently

    Down with the Spallsopoly! ;-)

    Nah, the Hurgemony.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Sep 6 12:21:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 15:45:27 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Xocyll wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>>>1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged
    insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them >>onboard.

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Oh Christ. As if Australia wasn't dangerous enough as it is!

    Antaroo https://preview.redd.it/encyclopedia-of-impossible-animals-hybrids-part-v0-71bpylcsltva1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6f1716b34987d576742909b13c98407d31a37670

    Someone already did a bunch of hybrids (graphically at least.)

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sat Sep 6 14:04:21 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
    spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 15:45:27 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Xocyll wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>>entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >>>say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) >>>>wrote:

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it September >>>>>1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I my gosh, its worse than we thought. He's not just a six legged >>>>insect, he's an AUSTRALIAN six legged insect. Have you seen the size
    of a bulldog ant? And now he's trying to expand his territory.

    Truly the end-times are upon us.;

    Ants don't swim though, and I think the airlines have rules about them >>>onboard.

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know
    we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Oh Christ. As if Australia wasn't dangerous enough as it is!

    Antaroo >https://preview.redd.it/encyclopedia-of-impossible-animals-hybrids-part-v0-71bpylcsltva1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6f1716b34987d576742909b13c98407d31a37670

    Someone already did a bunch of hybrids (graphically at least.)

    Oh. There was a link to someone else who does this hybrid thing but
    without AI.

    Here's one of his, making AUS more dangerous.
    Crocoroo https://preview.redd.it/encyclopedia-of-impossible-animals-hybrids-part-v0-wrgm8kpwp0wa1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=194a616b260a7c179e1b8cfac035b41167d914d6

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr
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  • From Praetor Mandrake@horchata12839@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Sep 7 17:51:51 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 9/3/2025 1:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Wednesday
    (GMT):
    On 9/2/2025 5:24 PM, Ant wrote:
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
    wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:11 this Sunday (GMT):
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 04:22:40 -0000 (UTC), in
    comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Ant wrote:

    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ! >>>>>>>>>>
    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this
    newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    Am I too early to start this question for August 2025? Is it
    September
    1st, 2025 anywhere yet? ;)

    I refuse to answer to anyone but master. Nice try, imposter.

    Bah. I need to overthrow him.

    But why? :(

    Because... :P

    Because he's got nothing better to do.


    get a hobby smh

    Being a genius glutious maximus is my profession, not a hobby.


    Civ V
    Wizardry VII
    The Avernums
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  • From Mike S.@Mike_S@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Sep 8 13:44:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 17:51:51 -0500, Praetor Mandrake
    <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:

    Civ V
    Wizardry VII
    The Avernums

    Three games I own and three games I haven't played yet. Two of those
    are even installed. I have too many unplayed games. I need more years
    then I have left to play them all.
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  • From sion F2@sionf2@drum.cc to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Sep 8 19:12:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Mike S. wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 17:51:51 -0500, Praetor Mandrake
    <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:

    Civ V
    Wizardry VII
    The Avernums

    Three games I own and three games I haven't played yet. Two of those
    are even installed. I have too many unplayed games. I need more years
    then I have left to play them all.

    I also played a short amount of Ultima V. It's like Ultima IV with
    fairly ridiculous copy protection. Until I find a way to list the
    spells I have concocted, I'm shelving it. It seems that if I don't know
    what spells I have they will not be available when I need them most.
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  • From Mike S.@Mike_S@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Sep 9 09:03:53 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 19:12:14 -0500, sion F2 <sionf2@drum.cc> wrote:

    I also played a short amount of Ultima V. It's like Ultima IV with
    fairly ridiculous copy protection. Until I find a way to list the
    spells I have concocted, I'm shelving it. It seems that if I don't know >what spells I have they will not be available when I need them most.

    I played and completed Ultima V awhile back. I am pretty sure the game
    does tell you what spells you have in one of the menus and also how
    many you made. It has been awhile though, so I may be mistaken.

    The only thing about the spell system that annoyed me was having to
    make spells one at a time. I remember wanting the full 99 spells so I
    had to sit there mixing the reagents one by one by one.......
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Sep 9 11:10:40 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 09:03:53 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    I played and completed Ultima V awhile back. I am pretty sure the game
    does tell you what spells you have in one of the menus and also how
    many you made. It has been awhile though, so I may be mistaken.

    It does indeed! You need to use the "Stats" (Z key) feature, then
    press the arrow keys to navigate to the appropriate screen. (You get
    two screens per character in the party, then the equipment screen,
    then reagents, then readied spells, followed by items and remaining
    inventory. But it does loop, so if you have a big party just press
    left arrow three times to get to spells ;-))

    The only thing about the spell system that annoyed me was having to
    make spells one at a time. I remember wanting the full 99 spells so I
    had to sit there mixing the reagents one by one by one.......

    Actually, that was one of the things that attracted me to the game.
    Well, not the 'having to make 99 spells', but the idea that you'd have
    to prepare/mix the spells to begin with. It lifted the game out of the
    arcade, where spells were essentially just big guns that you could
    fire at will.

    It was also one of the earliest forms of crafting in games...


    Also, if you're not playing Ultima V with the fan-made upgrade patch,
    you really should be. Improvements include slightly better visuals,
    music, a cleaner way to exit the game, and a variety of game fixes.

    Available here:
    https://exodus.voyd.net/projects/ultima5/


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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Sep 10 08:42:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 9/6/2025 11:04 AM, Xocyll wrote:
    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 15:45:27 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Xocyll wrote:

    Now you get a Dr Moreau type experimenting and the next thing you know >>>> we have Kangarants (Antaroos?) bouncing around all over the place.

    Oh Christ. As if Australia wasn't dangerous enough as it is!

    Antaroo
    https://preview.redd.it/encyclopedia-of-impossible-animals-hybrids-part-v0-71bpylcsltva1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6f1716b34987d576742909b13c98407d31a37670

    Someone already did a bunch of hybrids (graphically at least.)

    Sheesh, those are horribly done.

    Oh. There was a link to someone else who does this hybrid thing but
    without AI.

    Here's one of his, making AUS more dangerous.
    Crocoroo https://preview.redd.it/encyclopedia-of-impossible-animals-hybrids-part-v0-wrgm8kpwp0wa1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=194a616b260a7c179e1b8cfac035b41167d914d6

    I've seen a bunch that were done in photoshop from years ago that were
    much better than this too.

    Here's one with a lot:

    https://www.boredpanda.com/animals-hybrids-photoshop/
    --
    -Justisaur

    ø-ø
    (\_/)\
    `-'\ `--.___,
    ¶¬'\( ,_.-'
    \\
    ^'
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Sep 10 20:00:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 14:18 this Thursday (GMT):
    On 9/4/2025 7:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:35 this Thursday (GMT): >>> On 9/3/2025 1:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    [snip]
    get a hobby smh

    Being a genius glutious maximus is my profession, not a hobby.


    didnt know you could be a professional in that

    I'm fully trained and accredited.


    So what do you do with that training?
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Sep 10 18:06:04 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On 9/10/2025 1:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 14:18 this Thursday (GMT):
    On 9/4/2025 7:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:35 this Thursday (GMT):
    On 9/3/2025 1:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    [snip]
    get a hobby smh

    Being a genius glutious maximus is my profession, not a hobby.


    didnt know you could be a professional in that

    I'm fully trained and accredited.


    So what do you do with that training?

    Mess with people's heads.
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.
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