• Obsolete!

    From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Dec 7 12:29:49 2025
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    It's Sunday, I'm lazy, so here's me talking about something somebody
    else wrote rather than thinking up something new myself.

    Today's article of contention: "6 PC specs that are finally outdated
    in 2026"*

    I'll save you from actually having to READ the article by listing
    their picks below:

    1) 1080p 60Hz monitors
    2) Non-modular PSUs
    3) Motherboards without onboard Wi-Fi
    4) Gen3 NVMe SSDs
    5) 500GB SSDs
    6) 16GB RAM

    Now, I'm not sure I agree with some of those. In particular, I have
    issue with the following picks:


    1) 1080p 60Hz monitors
    Personally, while I know so people swear by ultra-wide, super-high
    resolution with brain-boggling fast refresh rates, I'm absolutely fine
    with 1080/60Hz. I mean, sure it helps that I have bad eyes and
    multiple monitors (not to mention I use a 47" screen as my primary).
    But I've looked at better monitors and -while, sure, the upgrade may
    be slightly noticeable-- it's not so much that I think its worth the
    price. Plus, if I'm stuck at 1920x1080 and capped to a 60FPS
    framerate, I can get by on an older CPU/GPU longer than if I were
    playing games at 3840x2160. My computer has to push less pixels, and I
    don't really see the difference; it's win-win!

    Sure, if you have the option you might as well go with the better
    hardware... but obsolete? I don't see it that way.



    2) Non-modular PSUs
    Obsolete? Only to the geeky. Most people don't care. Most people don't
    even know what a PSU is. They use whatever comes in their Dell, after
    all (and that very rarely is a modular PSU). In fact, in this case the
    OEMs using a non-modular PSU is an advantage... because if they went
    modular you KNOW they'd be cost-cutting by not providing extra power
    leads. At least with the non-modular OEM PSUs, you're certain to get
    one or two extra molex or SATA connections for a minimal amount of upgradability.

    Modular PSUs are neat, and can make for cleaner PCs. But they're a
    luxury, not a necessity, and their older cousins are absolutely not
    obsolete.



    6) 16GB RAM
    I'm sorry, but no. Yes, more RAM is good but even nowadays, for most
    games, 16GB is fine. (Okay, it does depend on whether or not you have integrated video or not that uses system RAM for its GPU. If that's
    the case, your '16GB RAM' is actually 12GB or less, depending on the application). But even with bloated Win11, most apps and a lot of
    games will happily run with 16GB. I check memory usage while playing
    games (that Steam overlay thing is great!) and the number of times it
    goes over the 16GB for most games is pretty rare (I've more than 16GB,
    but almost never get advantage from it). More is always better, and if
    you're building a new PC might as well get extra, but for most people
    16GB is still fine if that's what they are running with now.

    Especially since RAM prices are skyrocketing now. We don't need fear
    mongering telling people to rush out and buy stuff they don't really
    require.

    I also have a minor nit with:

    3) Motherboards without onboard Wi-Fi
    Mostly because it's such a moot point. Pretty much every motherboard
    nowadays comes with it onboard anyway. But I think most people
    actually BUYING specific motherboards --hello, fellow geeks!-- rather
    than just going with what comes in their Dell probably are going to
    use a wired network anyway. Which makes the onboard wifi sort of
    superfluous. And if they really want it, it's dirt-cheap to buy an
    adaptor card or dongle.

    I don't know if I'd argue obsolete... but I don't think it really
    matters since it's not much of an option anymore to begin with.


    * * * *


    How much so-called 'obsolete' hardware are you running?






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    * linky here: https://www.xda-developers.com/pc-specs-that-are-finally-obsolete/

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  • From Rin Stowleigh@nospam@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Dec 7 14:01:22 2025
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    On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 12:29:49 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    How much so-called 'obsolete' hardware are you running?

    None.. all the stuff on that shit list really is obsolete.

    As far as 1080p monitors for gaming, its kind of a matter of not
    knowing what you're missing if you're still gaming at 1080p, because
    everything is better at 1440p. It's easy to fall into
    ignorance-is-bliss mode on this (sort of the polar opposite of FOMO syndrome)... I was a somewhat late adopter of 1080p myself for my
    gaming specific rig, but in addition the gaming benefit, any text
    reading happening on 1080p at 27" or above is only torturing your
    eyeballs.
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Dec 7 12:59:51 2025
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    On 12/7/2025 9:29 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    It's Sunday, I'm lazy, so here's me talking about something somebody
    else wrote rather than thinking up something new myself.

    Today's article of contention: "6 PC specs that are finally outdated
    in 2026"*

    I'll save you from actually having to READ the article by listing
    their picks below:

    1) 1080p 60Hz monitors

    I'm still running 1080p as well. It's fine. I upgraded from my 24" to a
    27" and that was too big at the arms length it's at, so gave it to my son.

    I am running a 144Hz monitor, which frankly I haven't noticed any
    difference with. And that comes with a huge performance hit vs. 60Hz.
    It's dynamic though, so it can drop to whatever the GPU can put out. I
    think that makes all the difference.

    I don't plan to upgrade any more as that will just mean smaller text
    that's harder to read on it.

    I do have a very old 2nd monitor set up in portrait mode that's 19" as
    it's what I could fit on the desk and it looks bad. Dammit! It's a
    1080p monitor, but this particular one has trouble being recognized and
    it's coming up at 900x1440. No wonder it looks so bad.

    2) Non-modular PSUs

    Didn't care for that, didn't even know it was a thing until I had it in
    my hand from my son's upgrade I put together. Sure it looks less messy,
    but I had trouble getting the wires to plug in, and now I have to store
    the extra wires somewhere.

    3) Motherboards without onboard Wi-Fi

    I had to look for one with it on my son's upgrade which was only a year
    ago. No I don't think as many people use ethernet as you think.
    Between apartments where it's impractical, or my '70s house which I'm
    not up to wiring for, or spending the money to have some snot-nosed kid
    who barely knows what he's doing wire it for 10x what he's getting paid
    by the contract company.

    4) Gen3 NVMe SSDs

    Um, what? I've still got a HD in my computer. Admittedly I do finally
    have an NVMe drive, but I haven't the faintest what gen it is. I
    suppose I'll have to look at the article.

    Ah they're only talking about building a new computer, and you wouldn't
    buy gen 3 as they're about the same price as a gen 4. That's the kind
    of obsolete I'm familiar with.

    5) 500GB SSDs

    That's what I've got in both my kid's computers. I have a 1TB in mine
    though. Probably same price again as an NVMe though, so obsolete in
    that respect for new builds.

    6) 16GB RAM
    At least I've got 32gb and so does my son. Now I can have all those web
    pages up at the same time as a game. My daughter's still at 16 but her
    gaming needs are way lower than the boys.

    Yeah, this doesn't hold up considering the RAM prices and the fact
    they're talking about building a new computer.

    I keep seeing people talking about buying 1 16GB stick so they can
    upgrade to 2 at some point if the prices ever drop.
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  • From Trimblebracegirdle2@noreply@pugleaf.net.invalid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Dec 7 21:07:42 2025
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    On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 12:29:49 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    It's Sunday, I'm lazy, so here's me talking about something somebody

    1) 1080p 60Hz monitors
    2) Non-modular PSUs
    3) Motherboards without onboard Wi-Fi
    4) Gen3 NVMe SSDs
    5) 500GB SSDs
    6) 16GB RAM
    well get extra, but for most people
    16GB is still fine if that's what they are running with now.


    TB - I'm fine with 1080 x 1920 on 28" @ 60 fps.
    At that I can get ok at games high settings.

    Hardly ever see my 16GB ram used any where fully.

    Thing like this which got me recently was GPU.
    I was happy with GTX 1080 ti and thought ok for few more years.
    Then out came "Indiana Jones and the Great Circle"
    and one or two other games, which I might want, with
    must have hardware Ray tracing requirement.

    I convinced myself that all games would shortly need that
    and made 1st big hardware purchase in years ** RTX 570 **
    bargain at £450 (I MUST! have bargain price)
    Change for me as for many many years my GPU's have been
    used 3 - 4 year old top of the range.
    I'm now not certain that hardware Ray tracing will
    be that essential ?
    But the RTX 570 (" Oooo ! gasp, see it shine") upscaling features are nice. regards TrimbleBracegirdle @@@
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Sun Dec 7 13:56:28 2025
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    On 12/7/2025 9:29 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    It's Sunday, I'm lazy, so here's me talking about something somebody
    else wrote rather than thinking up something new myself.

    Today's article of contention: "6 PC specs that are finally outdated
    in 2026"*

    I'll save you from actually having to READ the article by listing
    their picks below:

    1) 1080p 60Hz monitors
    2) Non-modular PSUs
    3) Motherboards without onboard Wi-Fi
    4) Gen3 NVMe SSDs
    5) 500GB SSDs
    6) 16GB RAM

    Now, I'm not sure I agree with some of those. In particular, I have
    issue with the following picks:


    1) 1080p 60Hz monitors
    Personally, while I know so people swear by ultra-wide, super-high
    resolution with brain-boggling fast refresh rates, I'm absolutely fine
    with 1080/60Hz. I mean, sure it helps that I have bad eyes and
    multiple monitors (not to mention I use a 47" screen as my primary).
    But I've looked at better monitors and -while, sure, the upgrade may
    be slightly noticeable-- it's not so much that I think its worth the
    price. Plus, if I'm stuck at 1920x1080 and capped to a 60FPS
    framerate, I can get by on an older CPU/GPU longer than if I were
    playing games at 3840x2160. My computer has to push less pixels, and I
    don't really see the difference; it's win-win!

    Sure, if you have the option you might as well go with the better
    hardware... but obsolete? I don't see it that way.



    2) Non-modular PSUs
    Obsolete? Only to the geeky. Most people don't care. Most people don't
    even know what a PSU is. They use whatever comes in their Dell, after
    all (and that very rarely is a modular PSU). In fact, in this case the
    OEMs using a non-modular PSU is an advantage... because if they went
    modular you KNOW they'd be cost-cutting by not providing extra power
    leads. At least with the non-modular OEM PSUs, you're certain to get
    one or two extra molex or SATA connections for a minimal amount of upgradability.

    Modular PSUs are neat, and can make for cleaner PCs. But they're a
    luxury, not a necessity, and their older cousins are absolutely not
    obsolete.



    6) 16GB RAM
    I'm sorry, but no. Yes, more RAM is good but even nowadays, for most
    games, 16GB is fine. (Okay, it does depend on whether or not you have integrated video or not that uses system RAM for its GPU. If that's
    the case, your '16GB RAM' is actually 12GB or less, depending on the application). But even with bloated Win11, most apps and a lot of
    games will happily run with 16GB. I check memory usage while playing
    games (that Steam overlay thing is great!) and the number of times it
    goes over the 16GB for most games is pretty rare (I've more than 16GB,
    but almost never get advantage from it). More is always better, and if
    you're building a new PC might as well get extra, but for most people
    16GB is still fine if that's what they are running with now.

    Especially since RAM prices are skyrocketing now. We don't need fear mongering telling people to rush out and buy stuff they don't really
    require.

    I also have a minor nit with:

    3) Motherboards without onboard Wi-Fi
    Mostly because it's such a moot point. Pretty much every motherboard
    nowadays comes with it onboard anyway. But I think most people
    actually BUYING specific motherboards --hello, fellow geeks!-- rather
    than just going with what comes in their Dell probably are going to
    use a wired network anyway. Which makes the onboard wifi sort of
    superfluous. And if they really want it, it's dirt-cheap to buy an
    adaptor card or dongle.

    I don't know if I'd argue obsolete... but I don't think it really
    matters since it's not much of an option anymore to begin with.


    * * * *


    How much so-called 'obsolete' hardware are you running?






    ----
    * linky here: https://www.xda-developers.com/pc-specs-that-are-finally-obsolete/

    I basically agree with your points. Especially for Wi-Fi. I have
    before and currently do work with legally confidential material. Wi-Fi
    is too weak security wise. I ALWAYS used a hard-wire network connection.

    As for how much of my hardware is "obsolete", basically all of it I'm
    sure by the writer's standards. (Have not clicked on the article link.)
    I only in the last few months had a video card added to my existing,
    many years old, tower so I could participate in a game's alpha testing.
    Prior to that I was using the native video capacity.

    Basically what I have is good enough for my needs and I'm unlikely to be
    able to afford a serious upgrade or new machine before I die.
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    dirty old man.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Dec 8 06:33:51 2025
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    I still use obsolete stuff that still work for me like VGA, PS2, DVI,
    1080 displays, analog 3.5mm speakers, etc.


    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    It's Sunday, I'm lazy, so here's me talking about something somebody
    else wrote rather than thinking up something new myself.

    Today's article of contention: "6 PC specs that are finally outdated
    in 2026"*

    I'll save you from actually having to READ the article by listing
    their picks below:

    1) 1080p 60Hz monitors
    2) Non-modular PSUs
    3) Motherboards without onboard Wi-Fi
    4) Gen3 NVMe SSDs
    5) 500GB SSDs
    6) 16GB RAM

    Now, I'm not sure I agree with some of those. In particular, I have
    issue with the following picks:


    1) 1080p 60Hz monitors
    Personally, while I know so people swear by ultra-wide, super-high
    resolution with brain-boggling fast refresh rates, I'm absolutely fine
    with 1080/60Hz. I mean, sure it helps that I have bad eyes and
    multiple monitors (not to mention I use a 47" screen as my primary).
    But I've looked at better monitors and -while, sure, the upgrade may
    be slightly noticeable-- it's not so much that I think its worth the
    price. Plus, if I'm stuck at 1920x1080 and capped to a 60FPS
    framerate, I can get by on an older CPU/GPU longer than if I were
    playing games at 3840x2160. My computer has to push less pixels, and I
    don't really see the difference; it's win-win!

    Sure, if you have the option you might as well go with the better
    hardware... but obsolete? I don't see it that way.



    2) Non-modular PSUs
    Obsolete? Only to the geeky. Most people don't care. Most people don't
    even know what a PSU is. They use whatever comes in their Dell, after
    all (and that very rarely is a modular PSU). In fact, in this case the
    OEMs using a non-modular PSU is an advantage... because if they went
    modular you KNOW they'd be cost-cutting by not providing extra power
    leads. At least with the non-modular OEM PSUs, you're certain to get
    one or two extra molex or SATA connections for a minimal amount of upgradability.

    Modular PSUs are neat, and can make for cleaner PCs. But they're a
    luxury, not a necessity, and their older cousins are absolutely not
    obsolete.



    6) 16GB RAM
    I'm sorry, but no. Yes, more RAM is good but even nowadays, for most
    games, 16GB is fine. (Okay, it does depend on whether or not you have integrated video or not that uses system RAM for its GPU. If that's
    the case, your '16GB RAM' is actually 12GB or less, depending on the application). But even with bloated Win11, most apps and a lot of
    games will happily run with 16GB. I check memory usage while playing
    games (that Steam overlay thing is great!) and the number of times it
    goes over the 16GB for most games is pretty rare (I've more than 16GB,
    but almost never get advantage from it). More is always better, and if
    you're building a new PC might as well get extra, but for most people
    16GB is still fine if that's what they are running with now.

    Especially since RAM prices are skyrocketing now. We don't need fear mongering telling people to rush out and buy stuff they don't really
    require.

    I also have a minor nit with:

    3) Motherboards without onboard Wi-Fi
    Mostly because it's such a moot point. Pretty much every motherboard
    nowadays comes with it onboard anyway. But I think most people
    actually BUYING specific motherboards --hello, fellow geeks!-- rather
    than just going with what comes in their Dell probably are going to
    use a wired network anyway. Which makes the onboard wifi sort of
    superfluous. And if they really want it, it's dirt-cheap to buy an
    adaptor card or dongle.

    I don't know if I'd argue obsolete... but I don't think it really
    matters since it's not much of an option anymore to begin with.


    * * * *


    How much so-called 'obsolete' hardware are you running?






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  • From Mike S.@Mike_S@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Dec 8 09:25:22 2025
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    On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 12:29:49 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    1) 1080p 60Hz monitors

    I use a 32 inch 1080p 60hz monitor. I only care about color
    reproduction which my monitor does well. Also, I play older games and
    if I go with higher resolutions, the 2D interfaces for these older
    titles won't scale well enough with mods that increase resolutions of
    the 3d game world. They will get too small.

    2) Non-modular PSUs

    I don't build my own computers so this is not really something I care
    about but I did have to buy a PSU once and it was modular. So maybe
    this one is accurate.

    3) Motherboards without onboard Wi-Fi

    I am sure this one is accurate.

    4) Gen3 NVMe SSDs

    I have no idea if my NVMe SSD is gen3 or not. I also don't care.

    5) 500GB SSDs

    I purchased my computer at the end of 2020 and it came with a 1 TB SSD
    even then so this one is probably also accurate as well.

    6) 16GB RAM

    I have 16 gigs. If I bought a computer today, I would make sure it had
    32 gigs so I agree with this one as well.

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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Dec 8 19:00:06 2025
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    Rin Stowleigh <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote at 19:01 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 12:29:49 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    How much so-called 'obsolete' hardware are you running?

    None.. all the stuff on that shit list really is obsolete.

    As far as 1080p monitors for gaming, its kind of a matter of not
    knowing what you're missing if you're still gaming at 1080p, because everything is better at 1440p. It's easy to fall into
    ignorance-is-bliss mode on this (sort of the polar opposite of FOMO syndrome)... I was a somewhat late adopter of 1080p myself for my
    gaming specific rig, but in addition the gaming benefit, any text
    reading happening on 1080p at 27" or above is only torturing your
    eyeballs.


    I really don't play games that demand a high resolution, lol
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  • From Rin Stowleigh@nospam@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Mon Dec 8 17:45:14 2025
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    On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 19:00:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Rin Stowleigh <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote at 19:01 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 12:29:49 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson >><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    How much so-called 'obsolete' hardware are you running?

    None.. all the stuff on that shit list really is obsolete.

    As far as 1080p monitors for gaming, its kind of a matter of not
    knowing what you're missing if you're still gaming at 1080p, because
    everything is better at 1440p. It's easy to fall into
    ignorance-is-bliss mode on this (sort of the polar opposite of FOMO
    syndrome)... I was a somewhat late adopter of 1080p myself for my
    gaming specific rig, but in addition the gaming benefit, any text
    reading happening on 1080p at 27" or above is only torturing your
    eyeballs.


    I really don't play games that demand a high resolution, lol

    That's kind of the thing though, none of them really demand it. It's
    just one of those things that when you make the increase, your eyes
    thank you for it, and wish you'd done it sooner. And then of course
    after some period of time, it's hard to go back.

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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Tue Dec 9 22:48:19 2025
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    On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 12:29:49 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    I'll save you from actually having to READ the article by listing
    their picks below:

    1) 1080p 60Hz monitors

    1080p @ 240Hz, Gsync. My secondary monitor is 1080 @ 60Hz, but it really
    *is* obsolete. I run the Gsync monitor at 144Hz.

    2) Non-modular PSUs

    Haven't built with one of those in a WHILE. 10 years at least. Meh. A PSU
    just has to deliver consistent power. Let's not be silly.

    3) Motherboards without onboard Wi-Fi

    Have plenty of those in old machines, but my current MB has onboard Wi-Fi
    and Bluetooth. I consider onboard Bluetooth to be more important than
    Wi-Fi, as USB Wi-Fi adapters are often good (so long as it isn't a micro-dongle), but good USB Bluetooth is hard to come by.

    4) Gen3 NVMe SSDs

    Don't have one. But let's not be silly. _SATA_ is obsolete. NVMe is fine.

    5) 500GB SSDs

    I use small NVMe drives for my system drive. Still my current system has
    a 1TB system drive, but I'm only using 193GB on it. I wouldn't want to
    use more because I like to keep my system images small. It could easily
    be 512GB and serve me just fine. I use the extra space to transit its own system drive images to Dropbox for offline storage. However, a Macrium
    image is coming in at ~110GB. So I *still* don't need more than 512GB.

    Small drives can be useful.

    6) 16GB RAM

    My current machine has 64 GB of RAM. My previous 32 GB. My VIDEO CARD has
    16 GB of RAM, ffs. I have to agree with the article on this one. Maybe
    you don't need it, but you may as well have it.

    Besides, I blew up my 64GB system RAM running an AI picture generator, so
    if you're doing AI, you probably want even more than that. It crashed so ungracefully I couldn't believe it. No hard lock, just every program
    stopped working, including the desktop.

    Why does Windows allow a single program to allocate everything else
    running, including the desktop experience, out of RAM? Shouldn't some of
    it be reserved to the OS?

    How much so-called 'obsolete' hardware are you running?

    Very little, apparently. Just the ViewSonic monitor, which does fine as a secondary. It's also DVI-D. Now that is OLD. "Until it dies" is my motto.
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  • From Anssi Saari@anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Dec 10 10:17:18 2025
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    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    It's Sunday, I'm lazy, so here's me talking about something somebody
    else wrote rather than thinking up something new myself.

    Today's article of contention: "6 PC specs that are finally outdated
    in 2026"*

    I'll save you from actually having to READ the article by listing
    their picks below:

    1) 1080p 60Hz monitors

    OK, I don't think I've never had one of those. Went from 1200p to 1440p
    :) But considering the trouble I've had with Gsync-compatibility, 60 fps
    is often where games want to stick at no matter what. More comes with
    tearing. Some games it just works and it's butter smooth.

    I've heard dual monitors can cause these issues but so far, no luck with disabling that either.

    2) Non-modular PSUs

    Um. I'm not sure what I put in my crap file server, might be
    modular. It's also SFF and the case is rather tight. Main desktop PSU
    for sure is modular and hardly the first of its kind. Goes nicely with
    an easy access case with good cable routing support.

    What about external PSUs though? I have this little pizza box that runs
    off what's likely a laptop PSU. Well, the mains cable is detachable so
    does it count as modular?-)

    Actually, come to think of it, I have now all of one HD and one SATA SSD
    in my gaming rig. No optical or anything any more. So all I need is
    motherboard power, GPU power and two SATA. So modular means pay more for
    neater innards. I'm not sure this makes a lot of sense but PSUs are
    hardly expensive.

    3) Motherboards without onboard Wi-Fi

    I dunno. Well, those usually come with bluetooth and I have a PS5
    gamepad which uses bluetooth so... But actually on my gaming rig, it's
    an add-on, now-oldish Intel AX200. I did pick a motherboard with that
    slot to be sure. Not USB since I don't like turning computers into
    porcupines and also kinda want my computers maid/kid/pet proof although
    some of those do like to chew on cables...

    As for wifi, for mostly stationary computers it's a useful backup
    sometimes. When moving/rearranging/renovating, or all ethernet cables in
    use or out of switch ports or doing a new build where there is no
    convenient ethernet socket etc. But normally I just don't care and
    plugging in my cell phone also works. Living in the home of mobile data
    here so I don't need to worry about "data limits" :)

    4) Gen3 NVMe SSDs

    Ehh, no. Sorry, sticking with my AM4 rig and have a PCIe card with two
    extra m.2 slots and those two share a single Gen3 x4 slot. So 3/4 of my
    m.2 SSD *slots* are Gen3 and two of them even share on one PCIe
    slot. Actually, I'm not sure which Gen the SSDs are. Two of them
    definitely Cheap&Slow Gen for sure :) Faster than HD is what matters.

    5) 500GB SSDs

    I've been meaning to retire my I think 250 GB sata SSD but... turns out
    I've installed Steam and Epic on it! Some other stuff too that's easier
    to move. In fact I think Steam can be easily reinstalled in another
    location but Epic might have issues. One of these days...

    6) 16GB RAM

    As it happens I ordered some more. DDR4 isn't that expensive... RAM-gods willing, I'll be running 48 GB soon.

    https://www.xda-developers.com/pc-specs-that-are-finally-obsolete/

    I think this was from a gaming rig builder's perspective and predates
    the recent RAM price hikes. So the comments about what people's Dells
    are like isn't really that relevant.
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  • From Rin Stowleigh@nospam@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Dec 10 06:09:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2025 10:17:18 +0200, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

    OK, I don't think I've never had one of those. Went from 1200p to 1440p
    :) But considering the trouble I've had with Gsync-compatibility, 60 fps
    is often where games want to stick at no matter what. More comes with >tearing. Some games it just works and it's butter smooth.

    I've heard dual monitors can cause these issues but so far, no luck with >disabling that either.

    Once upon a time I learned that dual monitors and gaming rigs were a
    bad mix. I use dual monitors on my work setup and my music production
    setup, but not the gaming rig.

    I've also never had a single refresh rate related issue since Gsync
    monitors came out 10 or 11 years ago. I've literally forgotten what
    tearing even looks like or that it existed, even though that was a
    major PITA for years prior to Gsync. I just always keep vsync turned
    off in games and it just works. These days most games seem to detect
    the display and keep vsync off by default.
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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Dec 12 21:50:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    Rin Stowleigh <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote at 22:45 this Monday (GMT):
    On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 19:00:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
    <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Rin Stowleigh <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote at 19:01 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 12:29:49 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson >>><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    How much so-called 'obsolete' hardware are you running?

    None.. all the stuff on that shit list really is obsolete.

    As far as 1080p monitors for gaming, its kind of a matter of not
    knowing what you're missing if you're still gaming at 1080p, because
    everything is better at 1440p. It's easy to fall into
    ignorance-is-bliss mode on this (sort of the polar opposite of FOMO
    syndrome)... I was a somewhat late adopter of 1080p myself for my
    gaming specific rig, but in addition the gaming benefit, any text
    reading happening on 1080p at 27" or above is only torturing your
    eyeballs.


    I really don't play games that demand a high resolution, lol

    That's kind of the thing though, none of them really demand it. It's
    just one of those things that when you make the increase, your eyes
    thank you for it, and wish you'd done it sooner. And then of course
    after some period of time, it's hard to go back.


    no really, like i mostly play pixel games that do not need the higher
    res
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