• Are we seeing (the beginning of) the end of the console era?

    From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Feb 5 11:32:44 2026
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    Nintendo reported that its new Switch 2 sold much more poorly than
    expected this holiday season. PS5 sales are on the decline. The XBox
    is struggling. Are people turning away from consoles?

    Probably not (if only because Betteridge's law of headlines says so!)
    but their era of dominance in the gaming market has definitely
    declined even as PCs have become more relevant. But it wouldn't
    surprise me if it did happen. With the proliferation of powerful
    mobile devices, and a computer-in-every-home, the need for dedicated
    gaming devices seems almost quaint; sort of the modern equivalent of
    having a stand-alone MP3 player. Heck, even TVs are shipping with
    gaming capabilities (albeit through streaming services). Having a
    console plugged in just to play games seems somewhat superfluous.

    And while --as a member of the PC Master Race-- a part of me cheers at
    this idea, at the same time I remain wary. After all, what happens to
    XBox or PS5 may just happen to /my/ chosen platform as well.
    Especially since the ideal for games publishers is to go completely
    platform independent and switch completely to streaming, where you
    don't own any of your games anymore and they can turn them on and off
    (or just raise the price) at their whim. It's not really the ideal
    future.

    So maybe I better hope that XBox lingers on a bit longer.


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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Feb 5 10:14:53 2026
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    On 2/5/2026 8:32 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Nintendo reported that its new Switch 2 sold much more poorly than
    expected this holiday season. PS5 sales are on the decline. The XBox
    is struggling. Are people turning away from consoles?

    Probably not (if only because Betteridge's law of headlines says so!)
    but their era of dominance in the gaming market has definitely
    declined even as PCs have become more relevant. But it wouldn't
    surprise me if it did happen. With the proliferation of powerful
    mobile devices, and a computer-in-every-home, the need for dedicated
    gaming devices seems almost quaint; sort of the modern equivalent of
    having a stand-alone MP3 player. Heck, even TVs are shipping with
    gaming capabilities (albeit through streaming services). Having a
    console plugged in just to play games seems somewhat superfluous.

    Probably more tablets. I think part of it is people realizing charging
    $20 a month just to be able to play games online is a rip off.

    I'm still thinking streaming isn't going to catch on as it's such a
    horrible experience, but on the other hand the masses are stupid, and it
    took me several months and playing some of the games on both streaming
    and local to realize that it's so horrible that I'd rather not play the
    games at all.

    At least with the now very popular Elden Ring, there's something like
    10x as many sales on PC vs. consoles.

    Switch 2 doesn't really do anything better/different, and there' all of
    one exclusive game so far, which people don't seem to think is as good
    as the last one on the switch.

    Really PS5 doesn't have much to recommend it either, it seems it's
    somewhat in the same situation. Nothing much that's exclusive is really making people want to upgrade from PS4. You're not paying much more for
    a PC that's of equal or better without the $20 a month online tax, and emulation of PS4 is getting good.

    I'm hearing with the squeezing of the dollar people are starting to hit
    the high seas again for entertainment.

    And while --as a member of the PC Master Race-- a part of me cheers at
    this idea, at the same time I remain wary. After all, what happens to
    XBox or PS5 may just happen to /my/ chosen platform as well.
    Especially since the ideal for games publishers is to go completely
    platform independent and switch completely to streaming, where you
    don't own any of your games anymore and they can turn them on and off
    (or just raise the price) at their whim. It's not really the ideal
    future.
    So maybe I better hope that XBox lingers on a bit longer.
    Xbox is dead. Nintendo will probably be the last to go. I'm not sure
    what they're going to do to get people to buy the next console they come
    out with, or if they'll just start selling Nintendo games on mobile.
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  • From Zaghadka@zaghadka@hotmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Feb 5 21:52:33 2026
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    On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 10:14:53 -0800, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Justisaur wrote:

    Switch 2 doesn't really do anything better/different, and there' all of
    one exclusive game so far, which people don't seem to think is as good
    as the last one on the switch.

    This and this. They had one launch title: Mario Kart World.

    ...aaaand it is open world Mario Kart. Hey, it worked for Zelda, right?

    They also had improved 4k versions of some of their Switch 1 games that
    they passed off as launch titles. That's right, you had to *pay* for it.

    https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-nintendo-switch-2-edition-upgrade-pack-switch-2/

    You can't make this up.

    The new Metroid Prime is hinting that it sucks too. And it costs $10 more
    on a Switch 2, because... reasons.

    Some marketing genius at Nintendo needs to be given a "window office."
    These guys are making EPIC* mistakes.
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Feb 6 10:22:02 2026
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    On Thu, 05 Feb 2026 21:52:33 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 10:14:53 -0800, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Justisaur wrote:


    Switch 2 doesn't really do anything better/different, and there' all of >>one exclusive game so far, which people don't seem to think is as good
    as the last one on the switch.


    This and this. They had one launch title: Mario Kart World.
    ...aaaand it is open world Mario Kart. Hey, it worked for Zelda, right?


    Yeah, everything I've read indicates Switch 2 has underperformed. It's
    still selling quite well --let's not cry for Nintendo here-- but they
    expected it to do much better.

    And under ordinary circumstances, it probably would have. Even though
    it's (from all I can tell) little more than a hardware refresh of the
    original and, as you noted, lacking in release titles, Nintendo fans
    are the sort to rush out and buy anything the company chucks out.

    But with mobile dominanting the gaming scene, the economic downturn
    making consumers a bit more frugal when it comes to luxuries, and the ridiculous uptick in hardware prices, even the Nintendo Effect was of
    limited utility.

    Of all the consoles manufacturers, I think Nintendo will survive the
    longest. They've constructed themselves a little niche that I think
    will help them weather the changing tides better than the rest. Their
    best games are not available on other platforms, and they've
    postitioned themselves as a unique, family-friendly purveyor... even
    if their goods actually aren't much different from their competitors.
    They're sort of like Disneyland or Apple in how their products are
    perceived.

    Whether this will be enough to keep them going as streaming and mobile
    devices become dominant... I dunno. I see a lot more kids playing on
    tablets and phones than ever I see them carrying around a Switch.
    Plus, the publishers are much more interested in moving to streaming subscriptions.

    But these days the PS5 and Xbox are just overpriced, underpowered and limited-to-games computers, and a lot of people are wondering 'Why not
    just play the games on my computer then?' Those devices don't really
    stand apart. Nintendo still does.


    Some marketing genius at Nintendo needs to be given a "window office."
    These guys are making EPIC* mistakes.

    I see what you did there, and I approve ;-)

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