• $80 for Grand Theft Auto 6?

    From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 24 19:28:58 2026
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    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be
    interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?





    * IGN says so, so it must be true https://www.ign.com/articles/gta-6-price-finally-confirmed-features-a-single-player-experience-at-launch



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  • From PW@noneused@noneused.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 24 18:28:21 2026
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    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:28:58 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the >end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be >interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?





    * IGN says so, so it must be true >https://www.ign.com/articles/gta-6-price-finally-confirmed-features-a-single-player-experience-at-launch



    **-

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 24 18:31:48 2026
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    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?





    * IGN says so, so it must be true https://www.ign.com/articles/gta-6-price-finally-confirmed-features-a-single-player-experience-at-launch


    No way. I'm the poster boy for GTA, and I plan on getting a PS6 or a PS5
    if that's all I can on Black Friday, and I'll get the nostalgia version
    of GTA 4 and the GTA 5 for the system. Then I will play these over a
    period of thirteen or fourteen. It's because I have a backlog, and it's
    just unnecessary to fork out right away for GTA 6. I'm the best there
    ever was at GTA, but I'm going right into Grand Theft Auto 4. Plus it
    will be a nostalgia on the PS 6, and I will have full control of the
    bowling game. Roman won't be able to hold a candle to my bowling scores.
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Wed Jun 24 18:34:12 2026
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    PW wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:28:58 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the
    end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be
    interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?





    * IGN says so, so it must be true
    https://www.ign.com/articles/gta-6-price-finally-confirmed-features-a-single-player-experience-at-launch



    **-

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

    I don't do this very often. Sometimes when I'm at one star, I will,
    because getting that guy chasing me off my ass can be a help and I'll be
    able to evade the stars. Never above that. The most stars I ever evaded
    was 4. When I went to the safe house to save after, the game crashed.
    When I looked at the logs I saw bill wilson's name up and down my ISP
    router. I'm fairly certain I wouldn't get that many stars against me if
    bill wilson wasn't feeding my identification details into my GTA game.
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  • From Anssi Saari@anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 15:47:44 2026
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    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?

    I'm really not sure, definite maybe for now. I wasn't that keen on 4 or
    5 and the what little is known about 6 hasn't been that impressive. So
    maybe if they can bring something new to the format? Or remix it somehow
    so it at least feels new.

    Besides, it might be a long wait for the PC version still. But maybe I
    could try it on that streaming service Sony has...
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 06:57:53 2026
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    Anssi Saari wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?

    I'm really not sure, definite maybe for now. I wasn't that keen on 4 or
    5 and the what little is known about 6 hasn't been that impressive. So
    maybe if they can bring something new to the format? Or remix it somehow
    so it at least feels new.

    Besides, it might be a long wait for the PC version still. But maybe I
    could try it on that streaming service Sony has...

    Will GTA 6 be like GTA 4, where if you forget what email is associated
    with it or lose the email, you have to purchase it again on a different
    Steam account? That it's basically burned on that Steam account for the foreseeable future?

    Because if they do that again, Rockstar will make bank because each
    player will have to buy it two or three times to play it -- that's
    already $240 per person!
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  • From rms@rmsmoo@moomoo.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 10:05:14 2026
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    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

    More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world
    environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios, just makes me tired. The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold. No interest in this game.

    rms

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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 10:14:57 2026
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    rms wrote:
    Nope.  Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

      More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios,
    just makes me tired.  The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold.  No interest in this game.

    rms

    I'm totally the opposite. With the ubiquitous job offers coming up in
    the recruiting online places where the only hope for getting a job is,
    it's bleak. Most of these jobs are fake. All they are doing is gauging
    what people would bring to fantasy jobs that they don't intend to hire on.

    In the housing industry, it's inflated price after egotistical landlord.

    At the restaurants, if you're in anything nicer than a McDonald's, they
    will present you with the encouragement to tip whatever you can and have
    left in your wallet.

    Basically we're all living in inner city slavery, the whole lot of us,
    from lower class all the way to upper middle class. I can jostle my arms
    in cameraderie with the people of San Andreas and Liberty City.

    We're all slaves, all alike, while the police get in their free vehicles
    and roll all over the city causing mayhem and mischief.

    Inner city slavery, fostered by the government's blatant drug dealing.
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 16:46:56 2026
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    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:05:14 -0600, "rms" <rmsmoo@moomoo.net> said
    this thing:

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot >>policeman!

    More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world
    environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios, just >makes me tired. The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold. No interest in >this game.

    I'm not so put off with the gameplay and cthe ops-n-robbers setting as
    the whole satirical take on the world that Rockstar embeds into its
    games. It just feels so dated. They can't do anything half as
    ridiculous as what's actually going on in the USA now.





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  • From Rin Stowleigh@nospam@nothanks.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 18:08:09 2026
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    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 06:57:53 -0600, phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Anssi Saari wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?

    I'm really not sure, definite maybe for now. I wasn't that keen on 4 or
    5 and the what little is known about 6 hasn't been that impressive. So
    maybe if they can bring something new to the format? Or remix it somehow
    so it at least feels new.

    Besides, it might be a long wait for the PC version still. But maybe I
    could try it on that streaming service Sony has...

    Will GTA 6 be like GTA 4, where if you forget what email is associated
    with it or lose the email, you have to purchase it again on a different >Steam account? That it's basically burned on that Steam account for the >foreseeable future?

    Red Dead Redemption 2 offered some bonuses that included a special
    horse on purchases through the Rockstar store. That's one of the few
    times I broke my "Steam only" rule and took a chance. It turned out
    to be a decision that definitely was worth it, because that horse had
    a tremendous impact on my enjoyment of the game, only because in-game
    currency is important in and relatively difficult to come by early on
    in the online mode. Decent payouts for races were based on
    1st/2nd/3rd place, so winning a lot of races really helped my
    financial situation.

    It probably wouldn't matter as much if I had stuck to the SP game, but
    I only played a few hours of that versus hundreds in the outstanding
    online mode.

    Needless to say, I will be at least evaluating any specials they offer
    only through their store... cosmetic only shit I don't really care
    about, but items like weapons or cars with features that help with
    areas of struggle can make a difference.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 23:21:05 2026
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    Ouch. I still haven't played any of the 3D GTA games. I only played the original GTA1 demo in 2D in college! ;)

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Recently, Rockstar announced* that the expected retail price of GTA6
    is going to be $80 (well, $79.99 USD but AFAIK pennies no longer exist
    in the US so that's a distinction that no longer makes any difference
    ;-). So, the question is: would you pay that much for the next Grand
    Theft Auto game?

    I've mixed feelings.

    On the one hand, I agree that the $49.99 USD price-tag for most games
    is historically low after you take inflation into account. It's not
    that I want to pay more, but developers gotta get paid, y'know? And
    while there are a lot of games that may not be worth full price thanks
    to all the MTX double-dipping and cruddy gameplay, I think giving
    Rockstar the benefit of the doubt isn't too much to ask. Whether you
    like their games or not, the Grand Theft Auto titles (and generally
    all their open-world games) have been tours de force, with a lot of
    effort and detail put into the design. (Whether GTA6 will live up to
    their previous efforts is, of course, not something we'll be able to
    answer until the game actually comes out, but odds are high that the end-product will probably justify the development cost (which, last I
    heard, was > $2 billion USD. Suck it, "Star Citizen!" ;-)

    On the other hand... well, if you're a regular you KNOW how I resist
    paying full price for video games. I've been disappointed by too many
    games, and anyway, there's such a glut of inexpensive (but still
    good!) titles to play that it makes it even harder to rationalize
    paying that much when there are almost-as-good alternatives available.

    (Plus, you know I live and die by The Number. $79.99 USD can buy me
    six or seven smaller games, and between the choice of 1 GTA6 and 6
    other games, well... The Number is a demanding mistress ;-)

    So even if I agree GTA6 is probably worth its asking price, it's
    unlikely I'll ever pay that much for it.

    But it makes me wonder if a lot of others will. I mean, sure, GTA6 is
    going to be an instant success no matter the price. There's a lot of
    hype for this game, and people have been waiting for a sequel to the
    GTA games for... good gog, has it really been 13 years?!? Rockstar's
    going to see record sales numbers for sure.

    But given the price and the uncertain economy, will that added
    surcharge over the 'usual' $59.99 or $69.99 scare away more people
    than usual? Is that extra $10 USD going to cost Rockstar more than it
    brings in?

    Well, probably. I'm sure Rockstar and Take Two have armies of
    accountants and market research people who've analyzed this 100
    different ways. But it's definitely lost them one customer. I may be interested in the GTA6, and there may be SOME games I consider buying
    at that price... but that's a Venn diagram that doesn't overlap in the
    case of this game.

    Is the lure of GTA6 enough to make you cough up the extra cash, or are
    you going to wait several years until the inevitable bargain bin (or
    freebie, as all previous GTA games have previously eventually been
    given away)?





    * IGN says so, so it must be true https://www.ign.com/articles/gta-6-price-finally-confirmed-features-a-single-player-experience-at-launch
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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 00:20:10 2026
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    At Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:28:21 -0600, PW <noneused@noneused.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:28:58 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    [GTA 6]

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

    I used to agonize about Counterstrike in the same way.

    And there was a place in Soma where I couldn't advance without
    killing someone that I didn't think needed to be killed. (That
    one, I got refunded.)

    But _it's a game_. Video game violence doesn't equate to real violence,
    unless you're already, shall we say, disturbed.

    It's the same in Elite Dangerous Odyssey. I try to sneak and not
    cause any injuries -- but sometimes, a situation goes South, and
    people get hurt.

    Sure, they're shooting at you, but if the EDO version of
    Interpol is shooting at you, maybe it's time for a hasty
    retreat -- but then, you will fail the mission, mostly.

    Finally, I'll mention that some people go to anarchy stations
    and straight-up murder everybody before looting the station.
    Where's the sport in that?
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  • From phoenix@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 18:21:44 2026
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    vallor wrote:
    At Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:28:21 -0600, PW <noneused@noneused.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:28:58 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    [GTA 6]

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

    I used to agonize about Counterstrike in the same way.

    And there was a place in Soma where I couldn't advance without
    killing someone that I didn't think needed to be killed. (That
    one, I got refunded.)

    But _it's a game_. Video game violence doesn't equate to real violence, unless you're already, shall we say, disturbed.

    It's the same in Elite Dangerous Odyssey. I try to sneak and not
    cause any injuries -- but sometimes, a situation goes South, and
    people get hurt.

    Sure, they're shooting at you, but if the EDO version of
    Interpol is shooting at you, maybe it's time for a hasty
    retreat -- but then, you will fail the mission, mostly.

    Finally, I'll mention that some people go to anarchy stations
    and straight-up murder everybody before looting the station.
    Where's the sport in that?

    What's your Rank in that game? Surely you've achieved Dangerous by now.
    What about Deadly?
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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 00:35:06 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    At Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:21:44 -0600, phoenix <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote: [regarding Elite Dangerous Odyssey]
    What's your Rank in that game? Surely you've achieved Dangerous by now.
    What about Deadly?

    Triple Elite.

    I have Trade Elite V, which I got during the Golconda gold rush.

    The advantage to having at least one Elite rank is one can go
    to the Founder's World, visiting Jameson Memorial. There, you
    can buy any module or ship, at a discount.

    Still have only moderate rank in exobiology and on-foot combat
    though...haven't worked my way to the upper ranks yet.
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  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 00:40:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    At Thu, 25 Jun 2026 16:46:56 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:05:14 -0600, "rms" <rmsmoo@moomoo.net> said
    this thing:

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot >>policeman!

    More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world
    environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios, just >makes me tired. The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold. No interest in >this game.

    I'm not so put off with the gameplay and cthe ops-n-robbers setting as
    the whole satirical take on the world that Rockstar embeds into its
    games. It just feels so dated. They can't do anything half as
    ridiculous as what's actually going on in the USA now.

    There was a hint of the polarization with one of the FarCry's. For
    example, one of the mission givers delivers a spot-on rant while
    sitting on his porch about the "libtards". The satire was excellent.

    (I think the FarCry franchise is underrated, as well as Just Cause...)

    I have GTA V, and tended to do more siteseeing than missions. The
    on-call blimp was an excellent touch.
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  • From Rin Stowleigh@nospam@nothanks.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 20:48:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:20:10 +0000, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth>
    wrote:

    At Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:28:21 -0600, PW <noneused@noneused.net> wrote:

    On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 19:28:58 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    [GTA 6]

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot
    policeman!

    I used to agonize about Counterstrike in the same way.

    And there was a place in Soma where I couldn't advance without
    killing someone that I didn't think needed to be killed. (That
    one, I got refunded.)

    But _it's a game_. Video game violence doesn't equate to real violence, >unless you're already, shall we say, disturbed.

    The whole "video games lead to real world violence" thing was always
    about as credible to me as when Ted Bundy said the existence of porn
    led him to kill dozens of women.

    That whole theoretical stance fails to acknowledge all of the people
    who have successfully existed in society without strict adherence to
    Quaker rules, and still never harmed anyone who didn't try to harm
    them first... and also managed to not bludgeon college girls and shove
    tree branches into their genitalia like Bundy's realization of his
    fantasy (which to my knowledge was never part of popular porn).

    Whenever a human identifies a behavioral scapegoat like that, the
    remedy is to rectify the behavior of said human (even if it means the
    death penalty).
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  • From PW@noneused@noneused.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Thu Jun 25 18:58:56 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 10:05:14 -0600, "rms" <rmsmoo@moomoo.net> wrote:

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot >>policeman!

    More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world
    environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios, just >makes me tired. The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold. No interest in >this game.

    rms

    *--

    I agree. No 'hood for me. Sort of lived in an area like that out of
    college because I couldn't afford a better place to live. Had to take
    the public bus through sections like that.

    Not interested in that culture!

    -pw
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  • From Mike S.@Mike_S@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 09:25:08 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:58:56 -0600, PW <noneused@noneused.net> wrote:

    I agree. No 'hood for me. Sort of lived in an area like that out of
    college because I couldn't afford a better place to live. Had to take
    the public bus through sections like that.

    Not interested in that culture!

    -pw

    I never lived in that kind of area and I don't want to play a video
    game in that kind of environment either. GTA is a big fat NO for me.
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  • From Mike S.@Mike_S@nowhere.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 09:28:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Fri, 26 Jun 2026 00:20:10 +0000, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth>
    wrote:

    But _it's a game_. Video game violence doesn't equate to real violence, >unless you're already, shall we say, disturbed.

    I'm not playing GTA because it is violent. I am not playing it because
    the gameplay and, especially, the setting do not interest me. Rockstar
    does not need my money. They will likely be getting plenty of that
    soon enough.
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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 09:54:48 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    "rms" <rmsmoo@moomoo.net> looked up from reading the entrails of the
    porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Nope. Not going to play or pay for a game where players can shoot >>policeman!

    More generally, the thought of games with current, real-world
    environments, in particular inner city gang violence type scenarios, just >makes me tired. The whole idea of GTA just leaves me cold. No interest in >this game.

    I pretty much gave up on GTA after 3, I bought 4 but then Microsoft
    insisted it needed games for windows live login which I did not want and
    which they later closed making it impossible to install.

    I Played from the original top down ones, played the gta3 ones, vice
    city, San Andreas then basic gta3.

    Loved vice city, except for the instant death on hitting water bit.
    Playing basic gta3 last with the mime character (he never talked) was
    just a bit meh.
    San Andreas, yeah the "good guy" being a gangbanger left me cold.

    Vice City at least had good music, and that Miami Vice kind of feel.

    San Andreas and the whole gang thing with a rap soundtrack was just meh.
    At least it was moddable to add interesting cars.

    Vice City in the San Andreas engine would be cool since you could add in
    better water stuff.

    But I guess this is not what kids today want, so all we get is crap.

    Xocyll
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  • From PW@noneused@noneused.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action on Fri Jun 26 09:24:26 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action

    On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 23:21:05 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
    wrote:

    Ouch. I still haven't played any of the 3D GTA games. I only played the >original GTA1 demo in 2D in college! ;)

    You've been down that ant-hole for too long Ant! Come up and breath
    some fresh air! Even I tried GTA5! :-)
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