On 2023-12-17 16:13, Wally J wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Why do iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?
Not people - just loser trolls like you. And it works. Look how
triggered you are. Precious!
Hi Jolly Roger,
I study you just like Dunning & Kruger studied that rather peculiar lemon-juice covered bank robber.
You interest me.
Hence, I read _everything_ that you write on these newsgroups, JR.
Having gone to the best schools in this country and subsequently having worked in high-tech startups in the Silicon Valley, I've never met in the flesh people like these strange iKooks are - only here - on Apple ngs.
These strange people only exist on the child-like Apple newsgroups for the most part, as almost nobody on the adult operating system newsgroups would send users on a futile wild-goose chase just because they asked a question of an Apple product that Apple doesn't want that product to be able to do.
There are _many_ (many!) examples of this interaction; here's just one: *Why are iKooks sadistically sending innocent users on wild-goose chases?* <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ynh0PE9lK_I/>
What normal person does that?
None, right?
So there's something rather strangely different about these Apple posters. {JollyRoger,YourName,Haemactylus,nospam,AlanBrowne,AlanBaker,Snit, et al.}
They've lied for years about Apple support (or they were ignorant of everything that they claimed - you can choose which one but not both). *Proof the iKooks have lied for years - or - more to the point - have been IGNORANT for years* <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ZE8GboBUO3c/>
They constantly lie to cover up what Apple does, to claim it didn't happen. *Why do the low IQ iKooks like nospam always lie to cover up Apple's faults?* <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/AiMYbSmplkw/>
What normal person does that?
None, right?
Only a small set of posters to the Apple newsgroups does that.
Why?
You REALLY need to get laid, Arlen.
Seriously... ...get out of your basement and meet a girl...
...or a guy if that's your thing.
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
Regardless of its needs, no woman or man should be called upon to
sacrifice their dignity to it.
*To the adults on these childish Apple OS newsgroups...*
a. [JR] The first person calls people "losers" & thinks that is clever.
b. [Baker] The next calls people gay & thinks that's really clever.
The most weaponized concept in psychology abused by a basement dwelling Morlock who uses tools but doesn't understand them. Ironic really. Maslow's law of the instrument in the flesh where he lashes out with what turns
out to be a wet noodle (D-K effect not what it's cracked up to be):
He could be furry or otherkin. Or into gadgetry.
They didnt study that bank robber. That incident was used as an anecdote. From their Methods: Participants were 65 Cornell University undergraduates from a variety of courses in psychology who earned extra credit for their participation which translates to WEIRD kids.
No surprise you cant distinguish an illustrative anecdote from actual research, which has been challenged as being nothing more than a
statistical exercise in seeing shapes in clouds.
Youre not studying anything. You are again masturbating in public (as
seen below):
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
He could be furry or otherkin. Or into gadgetry.
What makes the iKooks iKooks is their religious fanaticism.
Not their ignorance, low IQ, and clear lack of education, per se.
Every iKook tries to make facts go away with their childish taunts.
a. iKook [JR] person calls people "losers" & he thinks that is clever.
b. iKook [Baker] calls people "gay" & thinks he's being very clever.
The supply of girls (or guys) willing to put up with him and others like
him is quite limited, unless cash is involved. (In his case, a LOT of
cash.)
It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose againKIt places the lotion in the basket.
What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus?I'm not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock.
If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there's nothing but shapes in clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows
you haven't gotten the memo.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wroteLOL!
What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus?I'm not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock. >> If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there's nothing but shapes in
clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows
you haven't gotten the memo.
Don't worry Hemidactylus,
I knew you never read their seminal papers, so you have no clue whom they studied, just like Alan Baker is a liar that he teaches racing since he doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer and a beamer (which grew
up as racing terms)
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus?I'm not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock. >> If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there's nothing but shapes in
clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows
you haven't gotten the memo.
Don't worry Hemidactylus,
I knew you never read their seminal papers, so you have no clue whom they studied, just like Alan Baker is a liar that he teaches racing since he doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer and a beamer (which grew
up as racing terms) just as nospam constantly claims imaginary apps for iOS that don't exist, just as Alan Baker always claims every fact is a lie,
etc.
Hemidactylus, Alan Browne, Snit, Alan Baker, Lewis, nospam, et al.
You iKooks all _hate_ facts.
You iKooks all _fear_ facts, in fact.
Hence, you fear (and hate) anyone who presents facts to an Apple newsgroup.
Yes, I know you iKooks better than you know yourselves, Hemidactylus.
a. None of you iKooks has an IQ that even approaches normal
b. None of you iKooks has any education above high school as a result
c. But worse, you're all completely ignorant of everything you speak about
You have no idea what a quartile is and yet it's used many times in the seminal D-K papers, Hemidactylus, as it's an important inflection point.
Every one of you strange iKooks owns completely imaginary belief systems. None of you strange iKooks makes any assessment based on the facts.
*The iKooks is a religious zealot.*
Which, by the way, truth be told, is exactly the reason why Alan Browne thinks that anyone who is not a religious zealot is an "it", and why Jolly Roger thinks anyone who is not a religious zealot is a "loser", and why
Alan Baker thinks anyone who is not a religious zealot is "gay", etc.
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
Regardless of its needs, no woman or man should be called upon to
sacrifice their dignity to it.
*To the adults on these childish Apple OS newsgroups...*
a. [JR] The first person calls people "losers" & thinks that is clever.
b. [Baker] The next calls people gay & thinks that's really clever.
b. [Browne] The third calls people an "it", thinking that's also clever.
Isn't that strange?
A. This doesn't happen on the adult operating systems newsgroups.
B. It's only on the child-like Apple operating system newsgroups.
C. Why?
Specifically:
*Why do you think these people repeatedly act & think like children do?*
NOTE: It's their _only_ response to facts about Apple that they hate.
On 2023-12-18 12:36, Wally J wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wroteLOL!
What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus? >>> I'm not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock. >>> If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there's nothing but shapes in >>> clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows >>> you haven't gotten the memo.
Don't worry Hemidactylus,
I knew you never read their seminal papers, so you have no clue whom they
studied, just like Alan Baker is a liar that he teaches racing since he
doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer and a beamer (which grew >> up as racing terms)
Oh, Arlen... ...I don't need to lie.
Here's my page at DriverDB:
<https://www.driverdb.com/drivers/alan-baker>
Here's me in my RF98 Van Diemen Honda:
<https://martinsactionphotography.smugmug.com/2019-SCCBC-Race-6-Sunday-October-13-2019/i-cVjrfp9/A>
And here is the Sports Car Club of BC Race Drivers Committee (i.e. the instructors):
<https://www.sccbc.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/dt-7-scaled-1800x650.jpg>
That's me kneeling by the front wheel in the sunglasses.
'The Race Drivers Committee organizes and operates the SCCBC Race Driver Training Program. The driver training program is an important part of preparing to enter the sport of racing at Mission and is a prerequisite
to acquiring a Novice race license. The twice annual Race Driver
Training program provides unparalleled instruction on handling vehicles under extreme conditions. For more information, visit the Race Drivers Training Program page.
Membership on the Race Drivers Committee is by invitation only. The committee is comprised of some of the best racers in British Columbia.
Most committee members have won championships in their class while
others have done consistently well over the years and have proven
themselves capable of excelling in all race conditions.'
And here's the archived version of the page on the Race Drivers Committee:
<https://web.archive.org/web/20230422005048/https://www.sccbc.net/about-sccbc/race-drivers/>
'Race Drivers Committee Chairman Alan Baker'
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-18 12:36, Wally J wrote:Hah! Arlen is an F1 driver so there! You will respect his authority on all things like he’s the know-it-all version of Cartman from South Park. He’s probably a pilot, yachtsman, and former Delta operator who spent a decade
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wroteLOL!
What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus? >>>> I'm not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock. >>>> If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there's nothing but shapes in >>>> clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows >>>> you haven't gotten the memo.
Don't worry Hemidactylus,
I knew you never read their seminal papers, so you have no clue whom they >>> studied, just like Alan Baker is a liar that he teaches racing since he
doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer and a beamer (which grew >>> up as racing terms)
Oh, Arlen... ...I don't need to lie.
Here's my page at DriverDB:
<https://www.driverdb.com/drivers/alan-baker>
Here's me in my RF98 Van Diemen Honda:
<https://martinsactionphotography.smugmug.com/2019-SCCBC-Race-6-Sunday-October-13-2019/i-cVjrfp9/A>
And here is the Sports Car Club of BC Race Drivers Committee (i.e. the
instructors):
<https://www.sccbc.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/dt-7-scaled-1800x650.jpg> >>
That's me kneeling by the front wheel in the sunglasses.
'The Race Drivers Committee organizes and operates the SCCBC Race Driver
Training Program. The driver training program is an important part of
preparing to enter the sport of racing at Mission and is a prerequisite
to acquiring a Novice race license. The twice annual Race Driver
Training program provides unparalleled instruction on handling vehicles
under extreme conditions. For more information, visit the Race Drivers
Training Program page.
Membership on the Race Drivers Committee is by invitation only. The
committee is comprised of some of the best racers in British Columbia.
Most committee members have won championships in their class while
others have done consistently well over the years and have proven
themselves capable of excelling in all race conditions.'
And here's the archived version of the page on the Race Drivers Committee: >>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20230422005048/https://www.sccbc.net/about-sccbc/race-drivers/>
'Race Drivers Committee Chairman Alan Baker'
in the Activity.
Or he’s just an empty braggart with no life and nothing to show for all the hours wasted in mommy’s basement being an obnoxious snot on usenet groups. He should thank us all profusely for even recognizing he exists.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-18 12:36, Wally J wrote:Hah! Arlen is an F1 driver so there! You will respect his authority on all things like he’s the know-it-all version of Cartman from South Park. He’s probably a pilot, yachtsman, and former Delta operator who spent a decade
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wroteLOL!
What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus? >>>> I'm not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock. >>>> If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there's nothing but shapes in >>>> clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows >>>> you haven't gotten the memo.
Don't worry Hemidactylus,
I knew you never read their seminal papers, so you have no clue whom they >>> studied, just like Alan Baker is a liar that he teaches racing since he
doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer and a beamer (which grew >>> up as racing terms)
Oh, Arlen... ...I don't need to lie.
Here's my page at DriverDB:
<https://www.driverdb.com/drivers/alan-baker>
Here's me in my RF98 Van Diemen Honda:
<https://martinsactionphotography.smugmug.com/2019-SCCBC-Race-6-Sunday-October-13-2019/i-cVjrfp9/A>
And here is the Sports Car Club of BC Race Drivers Committee (i.e. the
instructors):
<https://www.sccbc.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/dt-7-scaled-1800x650.jpg> >>
That's me kneeling by the front wheel in the sunglasses.
'The Race Drivers Committee organizes and operates the SCCBC Race Driver
Training Program. The driver training program is an important part of
preparing to enter the sport of racing at Mission and is a prerequisite
to acquiring a Novice race license. The twice annual Race Driver
Training program provides unparalleled instruction on handling vehicles
under extreme conditions. For more information, visit the Race Drivers
Training Program page.
Membership on the Race Drivers Committee is by invitation only. The
committee is comprised of some of the best racers in British Columbia.
Most committee members have won championships in their class while
others have done consistently well over the years and have proven
themselves capable of excelling in all race conditions.'
And here's the archived version of the page on the Race Drivers Committee: >>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20230422005048/https://www.sccbc.net/about-sccbc/race-drivers/>
'Race Drivers Committee Chairman Alan Baker'
in the Activity.
Or he’s just an empty braggart with no life and nothing to show for all the hours wasted in mommy’s basement being an obnoxious snot on usenet groups. He should thank us all profusely for even recognizing he exists.--
Somebody who brags about adulthood and expertise as you do is most likely neither an adult nor expert in anything.
The only reason you keep coming
here is to make up for some embarrassingly shameful shortcomings you must have. We are forced to suffer the effects of your inadequacies and insecurities. Nobody posts like you do without having some severe psychological issues. Glad Im not you. Schadenfreude is an amazing thing.
Hah! He is an F1 driver so there!
You will respect his authority on all
things like he's the know-it-all version of Cartman from South Park. He's probably a pilot, yachtsman, and former Delta operator who spent a decade
in the Activity.
Or hes just an empty braggart with no life and nothing to show for all the hours wasted in mommy's basement being an obnoxious snot on usenet groups.
He should thank us all profusely for even recognizing he exists.
I posted multiple links showing the whole concept of D-K itself is flawed
and instead of acknowledging that you march out some trivial graphs and
still cling to the concept. This shows you are an uncritical ideologue. No surprise there. Its like me saying phrenology is flawed and pointing to
some expert debunkings and you asking me to examine a bump on your head because head bumps are fundamental to understanding your idee fixe of
iKooks.
At a bar near him it's claimed he's also a Nobel Laureate in Physics, Economics and Literature as well as a Fields Medal double dipper.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
Hah! He is an F1 driver so there!
Notice that you iKooks have to build an imaginary strawman, that I'm an F1 Driver, just so that you have something (anything!) to say to negate it.
*Facts mean absolutely nothing to you iKooks.*
I never said I was a racer; however I do own both a bimmer & a beemer.
And we can look up the cite which shows Alan Baker never heard of them.
Think about that.
Think real hard about that.
It's the _first_ think you learn about BMWs, Hemidactylus.
Yes. The first thing.
If you don't know the difference between a bimmer and a beemer, especially
in racing circuits, then people will immediately assess you as a moron.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
Somebody who brags about adulthood and expertise as you do is most likely
neither an adult nor expert in anything.
Hi Hemidactylus,
I study all you strange iKooks so I likely know you better than you know yourself, especially I study why you hate the truth about Apple products.
What separates iKooks mostly from normal people is that iKooks are strange religious zealots who don't understand facts and who are ignorant of them.
Yet, iKooks form completely imaginary belief systems based on no facts.
*Which is why iKooks are so deathly afraid of facts.*
*And of the mere messenger bearing facts.*
Hence, you have to admit, iKooks are very strange people indeed, so when
you try to claim I don't have the education that I do, think again please.
Tell that to Chris who fabricated a PhD in the biological sciences and yet
he immediately ridiculed the use of "vehicle" in terms of immunology.
HINT: Nobody who took even one immunology class would say thats that.
Same as Alan Baker who insists that he "teaches racing" and owns a BMW and yet he doesn't even know the first thing about what BMW racing vehicles are called.
On 2023-12-18 14:56, Wally J wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
Somebody who brags about adulthood and expertise as you do is most likely >>> neither an adult nor expert in anything.
Hi Hemidactylus,
I study all you strange iKooks so I likely know you better than you know
yourself, especially I study why you hate the truth about Apple products.
What separates iKooks mostly from normal people is that iKooks are strange >> religious zealots who don't understand facts and who are ignorant of them. >>
Yet, iKooks form completely imaginary belief systems based on no facts.
*Which is why iKooks are so deathly afraid of facts.*
*And of the mere messenger bearing facts.*
Hence, you have to admit, iKooks are very strange people indeed, so when
you try to claim I don't have the education that I do, think again please. >>
Tell that to Chris who fabricated a PhD in the biological sciences and yet >> he immediately ridiculed the use of "vehicle" in terms of immunology.
HINT: Nobody who took even one immunology class would say thats that.
Same as Alan Baker who insists that he "teaches racing" and owns a BMW and >> yet he doesn't even know the first thing about what BMW racing vehicles are >> called.
Most of the people who race BMWs at Mission call them "Pro 3s"...
...because that's the name of the CLASS they almost all run.
:-)
On 2023-12-18 12:36, Wally J wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wroteLOL!
What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus? >>> I'm not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock. >>> If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there's nothing but shapes in >>> clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows >>> you haven't gotten the memo.
Don't worry Hemidactylus,
I knew you never read their seminal papers, so you have no clue whom they
studied, just like Alan Baker is a liar that he teaches racing since he
doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer and a beamer (which grew >> up as racing terms)
Oh, Arlen... ...I don't need to lie.
Here's my page at DriverDB:
<https://www.driverdb.com/drivers/alan-baker>
Here's me in my RF98 Van Diemen Honda:
<https://martinsactionphotography.smugmug.com/2019-SCCBC-Race-6-Sunday-October-13-2019/i-cVjrfp9/A>
And here is the Sports Car Club of BC Race Drivers Committee (i.e. the instructors):
<https://www.sccbc.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/dt-7-scaled-1800x650.jpg>
That's me kneeling by the front wheel in the sunglasses.
'The Race Drivers Committee organizes and operates the SCCBC Race Driver Training Program. The driver training program is an important part of preparing to enter the sport of racing at Mission and is a prerequisite
to acquiring a Novice race license. The twice annual Race Driver
Training program provides unparalleled instruction on handling vehicles under extreme conditions. For more information, visit the Race Drivers Training Program page.
Membership on the Race Drivers Committee is by invitation only. The committee is comprised of some of the best racers in British Columbia.
Most committee members have won championships in their class while
others have done consistently well over the years and have proven
themselves capable of excelling in all race conditions.'
And here's the archived version of the page on the Race Drivers Committee:
<https://web.archive.org/web/20230422005048/https://www.sccbc.net/about-sccbc/race-drivers/>
'Race Drivers Committee Chairman Alan Baker'
Again. You need to read the seminal D-K papers, Hemidactylus.I have.
And where do you think I got the quote: "Participants were 65
Cornell University undergraduates from a variety of courses in psychology
who earned extra credit for their participation" and realized the lemon
juice guy was used merely as an illustrative anecdote.
McArthur Wheeler
wasn't a part of the study as you claimed since he wasn't one of the
Cornell undergrads. I called you on this ignorant comment "Dunning & Kruger studied that rather peculiar lemon-juice covered bank robber" and you
lashed out at me.
I also read this, which you as a propagandist will continue to ignore: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/persistent-irony-dunning-kruger-effect
Let that sink in.
You are a poster boy for namechecking and
weaponizing the DKE. You only illustrate your own ignorance of which you
are ironically very unaware. Why did you not now the DKE had been found wanting by so many independent researchers? Because you are an empty propagandist.
HINT: Every single person with any skill is on those Dunning-Kruger graphs.
What kind of strange person does that, Hemidactylus?Examples:
https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1215&context=numeracy
https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1188&context=numeracy
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2022.840180/full https://gwern.net/doc/iq/2020-gignac.pdf
And yet you shoot the messenger.
He is an abusive serially nymshifting to bypass killfiles poseur who is obsessed with iKooks. A very sad yet amusing state for a person to be
in, and unaware of how ridiculous he looks to pretty much every one posting here, even those who are at odds with each other.
Does it diminish you in any way that Checo is ranked 3rd on that DriverDB
Top 100? I wonder if Arlen even knows who that is. My fave driver. I was
all set to watch him on his home turf on both TVs (one cockpit view) and he wrecked 1st lap! Sad.
Here's me in my RF98 Van Diemen Honda:Oh wow open wheel! I have a Civic so I was expecting a tricked out street car. Nope!
<https://martinsactionphotography.smugmug.com/2019-SCCBC-Race-6-Sunday-October-13-2019/i-cVjrfp9/A>
I think you established your bonafides. That he is hung up on what
people call BMWs is ridiculous. Who cares.
I am also at a loss as to why people do the stance car look.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
Does it diminish you in any way that Checo is ranked 3rd on that DriverDB
Top 100? I wonder if Arlen even knows who that is. My fave driver. I was
all set to watch him on his home turf on both TVs (one cockpit view) and he >> wrecked 1st lap! Sad.
I don't know a damn thing about racing.
But then, I've never claimed to be a "racer" nor a "teacher" of racing.
Alan Baker doesn't know a damn thing about anything.
I think you established your bonafides. That he is hung up on what
people call BMWs is ridiculous. Who cares.
Heh heh heh... Chris tried the same trick when he ridiculed the use of the word "vehicle" in immunological contexts - because he was chilishly trying
to get out of the simple fact that he doesn't know the first thing about immunology - even after having "claimed" to have a PhD in the sciences.
It's the same with Alan Baker.
He doesn't know the first thing about BMWs.
He just doesn't.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-18 12:36, Wally J wrote:Does it diminish you in any way that Checo is ranked 3rd on that DriverDB
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wroteLOL!
What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus? >>>> I'm not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock. >>>> If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there's nothing but shapes in >>>> clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows >>>> you haven't gotten the memo.
Don't worry Hemidactylus,
I knew you never read their seminal papers, so you have no clue whom they >>> studied, just like Alan Baker is a liar that he teaches racing since he
doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer and a beamer (which grew >>> up as racing terms)
Oh, Arlen... ...I don't need to lie.
Here's my page at DriverDB:
<https://www.driverdb.com/drivers/alan-baker>
Top 100? I wonder if Arlen even knows who that is. My fave driver. I was
all set to watch him on his home turf on both TVs (one cockpit view) and he wrecked 1st lap! Sad.
Oh wow open wheel! I have a Civic so I was expecting a tricked out street car. Nope!
Here's me in my RF98 Van Diemen Honda:
<https://martinsactionphotography.smugmug.com/2019-SCCBC-Race-6-Sunday-October-13-2019/i-cVjrfp9/A>
I think you established your bonafides. That Arlen is hung up on what
And here is the Sports Car Club of BC Race Drivers Committee (i.e. the
instructors):
<https://www.sccbc.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/dt-7-scaled-1800x650.jpg> >>
That's me kneeling by the front wheel in the sunglasses.
'The Race Drivers Committee organizes and operates the SCCBC Race Driver
Training Program. The driver training program is an important part of
preparing to enter the sport of racing at Mission and is a prerequisite
to acquiring a Novice race license. The twice annual Race Driver
Training program provides unparalleled instruction on handling vehicles
under extreme conditions. For more information, visit the Race Drivers
Training Program page.
Membership on the Race Drivers Committee is by invitation only. The
committee is comprised of some of the best racers in British Columbia.
Most committee members have won championships in their class while
others have done consistently well over the years and have proven
themselves capable of excelling in all race conditions.'
And here's the archived version of the page on the Race Drivers Committee: >>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20230422005048/https://www.sccbc.net/about-sccbc/race-drivers/>
'Race Drivers Committee Chairman Alan Baker'
people call BMWs is ridiculous. Who cares.
I mostly like watching garage shows. There was one focused on modding JDMs.
I actually saw an old Skyline (I assume) a few months back locally with the driver on the passenger side. Was stock and not modded at all.
I am also at a loss as to why people do the stance car look. Or maybe it’s more the negative camber thing. Lowering was my thing in the late 80s with
a Nissan pickup (with some subwoofer bass but not competition). But the camber look makes no sense. I guess every generation tries to be more ridiculous than the preceding one. The mumble rap makes no sense either and
I grew up on hiphop.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
Again. You need to read the seminal D-K papers, Hemidactylus.I have.
With all due respect, you have not.
This conversation is classic for what it's like to deal with you iKooks.
Like Alan Baker claiming to teach racing, he's a liar because _everything_
he says shows he doesn't know the simplest thing about what he claims.
On 2023-12-18 17:22, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-18 12:36, Wally J wrote:Does it diminish you in any way that Checo is ranked 3rd on that DriverDB
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wroteLOL!
What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus? >>>>> I'm not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock.If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there's nothing but shapes in >>>>> clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows >>>>> you haven't gotten the memo.
Don't worry Hemidactylus,
I knew you never read their seminal papers, so you have no clue whom they >>>> studied, just like Alan Baker is a liar that he teaches racing since he >>>> doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer and a beamer (which grew >>>> up as racing terms)
Oh, Arlen... ...I don't need to lie.
Here's my page at DriverDB:
<https://www.driverdb.com/drivers/alan-baker>
Top 100? I wonder if Arlen even knows who that is. My fave driver. I was
all set to watch him on his home turf on both TVs (one cockpit view) and he >> wrecked 1st lap! Sad.
Yep... ...and it was such a foolish wreck.
There's a saying in racing:
"You can't win a race on the first lap, but you can certainly lose it".
Oh wow open wheel! I have a Civic so I was expecting a tricked out street
Here's me in my RF98 Van Diemen Honda:
<https://martinsactionphotography.smugmug.com/2019-SCCBC-Race-6-Sunday-October-13-2019/i-cVjrfp9/A>
car. Nope!
From the moment I decided to go racing, I knew I really wanted to race
an open wheel class. And top of my list was definitely what was still commonly called "Formula Ford" (but by the time I got one, officially
called "Formula F" to reflect the /F/ord and Honda /F/it engines that
were legal by then).
I think you established your bonafides. That Arlen is hung up on what
And here is the Sports Car Club of BC Race Drivers Committee (i.e. the
instructors):
<https://www.sccbc.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/dt-7-scaled-1800x650.jpg> >>>
That's me kneeling by the front wheel in the sunglasses.
'The Race Drivers Committee organizes and operates the SCCBC Race Driver >>> Training Program. The driver training program is an important part of
preparing to enter the sport of racing at Mission and is a prerequisite
to acquiring a Novice race license. The twice annual Race Driver
Training program provides unparalleled instruction on handling vehicles
under extreme conditions. For more information, visit the Race Drivers
Training Program page.
Membership on the Race Drivers Committee is by invitation only. The
committee is comprised of some of the best racers in British Columbia.
Most committee members have won championships in their class while
others have done consistently well over the years and have proven
themselves capable of excelling in all race conditions.'
And here's the archived version of the page on the Race Drivers Committee: >>>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20230422005048/https://www.sccbc.net/about-sccbc/race-drivers/>
'Race Drivers Committee Chairman Alan Baker'
people call BMWs is ridiculous. Who cares.
Are you kidding? I'm just amused by it.
:-)
I mostly like watching garage shows. There was one focused on modding JDMs. >> I actually saw an old Skyline (I assume) a few months back locally with the >> driver on the passenger side. Was stock and not modded at all.
I am also at a loss as to why people do the stance car look. Or maybe it’s >> more the negative camber thing. Lowering was my thing in the late 80s with >> a Nissan pickup (with some subwoofer bass but not competition). But the
camber look makes no sense. I guess every generation tries to be more
ridiculous than the preceding one. The mumble rap makes no sense either and >> I grew up on hiphop.
Like in so many things, "stance" is an example of taking something that
does make sense (a certain amount of negative camber DOES enhance
cornering grip) and taking it to ridiculous extremes. Look at any racing series and you'll see some degree of negative camber on both axles; more
for narrower tires, and less for wider. The tuner crowd just sees that
and turns it up to eleven.
:-)
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-18 17:22, *Hemidactylus* wrote:Thanks for your very knowledgable reply. I was wondering if the hellaflush look is because the popularity of drift racing.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-18 12:36, Wally J wrote:Does it diminish you in any way that Checo is ranked 3rd on that DriverDB >>> Top 100? I wonder if Arlen even knows who that is. My fave driver. I was >>> all set to watch him on his home turf on both TVs (one cockpit view) and he >>> wrecked 1st lap! Sad.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wroteLOL!
What's to the right of the last D-K test result quartile, Hemidactylus? >>>>>> I'm not playing your silly gotcha game with poorly put questions, Morlock.If the D-K effect evaporates into artifact there's nothing but shapes in >>>>>> clouds. The graphs mean nothing. That you are still clinging to D-K shows
you haven't gotten the memo.
Don't worry Hemidactylus,
I knew you never read their seminal papers, so you have no clue whom they >>>>> studied, just like Alan Baker is a liar that he teaches racing since he >>>>> doesn't even know the difference between a bimmer and a beamer (which grew
up as racing terms)
Oh, Arlen... ...I don't need to lie.
Here's my page at DriverDB:
<https://www.driverdb.com/drivers/alan-baker>
Yep... ...and it was such a foolish wreck.
There's a saying in racing:
"You can't win a race on the first lap, but you can certainly lose it".
Oh wow open wheel! I have a Civic so I was expecting a tricked out street >>> car. Nope!
Here's me in my RF98 Van Diemen Honda:
<https://martinsactionphotography.smugmug.com/2019-SCCBC-Race-6-Sunday-October-13-2019/i-cVjrfp9/A>
From the moment I decided to go racing, I knew I really wanted to race
an open wheel class. And top of my list was definitely what was still
commonly called "Formula Ford" (but by the time I got one, officially
called "Formula F" to reflect the /F/ord and Honda /F/it engines that
were legal by then).
I think you established your bonafides. That Arlen is hung up on what
And here is the Sports Car Club of BC Race Drivers Committee (i.e. the >>>> instructors):
<https://www.sccbc.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/dt-7-scaled-1800x650.jpg>
That's me kneeling by the front wheel in the sunglasses.
'The Race Drivers Committee organizes and operates the SCCBC Race Driver >>>> Training Program. The driver training program is an important part of
preparing to enter the sport of racing at Mission and is a prerequisite >>>> to acquiring a Novice race license. The twice annual Race Driver
Training program provides unparalleled instruction on handling vehicles >>>> under extreme conditions. For more information, visit the Race Drivers >>>> Training Program page.
Membership on the Race Drivers Committee is by invitation only. The
committee is comprised of some of the best racers in British Columbia. >>>> Most committee members have won championships in their class while
others have done consistently well over the years and have proven
themselves capable of excelling in all race conditions.'
And here's the archived version of the page on the Race Drivers Committee: >>>>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20230422005048/https://www.sccbc.net/about-sccbc/race-drivers/>
'Race Drivers Committee Chairman Alan Baker'
people call BMWs is ridiculous. Who cares.
Are you kidding? I'm just amused by it.
:-)
I mostly like watching garage shows. There was one focused on modding JDMs. >>> I actually saw an old Skyline (I assume) a few months back locally with the >>> driver on the passenger side. Was stock and not modded at all.
I am also at a loss as to why people do the stance car look. Or maybe it’s
more the negative camber thing. Lowering was my thing in the late 80s with >>> a Nissan pickup (with some subwoofer bass but not competition). But the
camber look makes no sense. I guess every generation tries to be more
ridiculous than the preceding one. The mumble rap makes no sense either and >>> I grew up on hiphop.
Like in so many things, "stance" is an example of taking something that
does make sense (a certain amount of negative camber DOES enhance
cornering grip) and taking it to ridiculous extremes. Look at any racing
series and you'll see some degree of negative camber on both axles; more
for narrower tires, and less for wider. The tuner crowd just sees that
and turns it up to eleven.
:-)
On 2023-12-18 21:36, Wally J wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
Does it diminish you in any way that Checo is ranked 3rd on that
DriverDB Top 100? I wonder if Arlen even knows who that is. My fave
driver. I was all set to watch him on his home turf on both TVs (one
cockpit view) and he wrecked 1st lap! Sad.
I don't know a damn thing about racing. But then, I've never claimed
to be a "racer" nor a "teacher" of racing.
Alan Baker doesn't know a damn thing about anything.
I know enough about racing to have started in 2012...
...and been invited to instruct just 4 years later.
I think you established your bonafides. That he is hung up on what
people call BMWs is ridiculous. Who cares.
Heh heh heh... Chris tried the same trick when he ridiculed the use
of the word "vehicle" in immunological contexts - because he was
chilishly trying to get out of the simple fact that he doesn't know
the first thing about immunology - even after having "claimed" to
have a PhD in the sciences.
It's the same with Alan Baker.
Other than that you tried to claim that a facetious comment about
"bimmer" vs "beemer" meant that I couldn't possibly be telling the
truth about being a racing driver and race driving instructor.
He doesn't know the first thing about BMWs. He just doesn't.
I know I own one.
Unless you have photos of old racing books, he won't believe you
I know I own one.
It's not even an exclusive club. BMWs aren't huge fucking secrets.
I have only owned BMW cars since 2001, and while I don't do my own
repairs, I can certainly tell you where to connect jumper cables, how to
do routine maintenance, and so on. He acts like "knowing the first
thing about BMWs" is some huge achievement when it just isn't.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Unless you have photos of old racing books, he won't believe you
Hi Jolly Roger,
You again are completely wrong. All he'd have to do is say something about bimmers (or beemers) that showed he actually knew something about them.
He knows nothing about them.
He doesn't even know what EVERYONE calls them in racing circuits, JR.
Who is _that_ ignorant, Jolly Roger?
Nobody, right?
Yet iKooks are.
I know I own one.
It's not even an exclusive club. BMWs aren't huge fucking secrets.
It's no secret I've owned both a bimmer & beemer for years, Jolly Roger. They're not "secrets" to anyone.
Mine have never been to a mechanic, even as they have many miles on them.
I have all the BMW tools, even as many of them are literally in German.
What _is_ a secret to the iKooks is even the simplest things about them.
If you can't tell a carburetor from fuel injection, Jolly Roger, then you know nothing about the air:gas stoichiometric ratio either, Jolly Roger.
I have only owned BMW cars since 2001, and while I don't do my own
repairs, I can certainly tell you where to connect jumper cables, how to
do routine maintenance, and so on. He acts like "knowing the first
thing about BMWs" is some huge achievement when it just isn't.
There's a reason the iKooks are such rather strange people, Jolly Roger.
Your problems stem first from your low IQ but then you bought into the
Apple zealotry such that you lost any ability to think like an adult.
That's why you call anyone who tells you facts about Apple, an 'it'.
You're _afraid_ of that person.
Because you're _afraid_ of facts.
You're afraid of facts because your belief systems aren't based on them.
So facts are deadly dangerous weapons against you strange people, JR.
You iKooks don't know the first thing about _anything_, Jolly Roger.
a. Alan Browne doesn't even know there is a walled garden
b. Jolly Roger doesn't know how Apple updates/upgrades iOS
c. Nospam constantly claims imaginary functionality that doesn't exist
d. Alan Baker claims people are gay just for telling the truth about Apple
On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-18 21:36, Wally J wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
Does it diminish you in any way that Checo is ranked 3rd on that
DriverDB Top 100? I wonder if Arlen even knows who that is. My fave
driver. I was all set to watch him on his home turf on both TVs (one
cockpit view) and he wrecked 1st lap! Sad.
I don't know a damn thing about racing. But then, I've never claimed
to be a "racer" nor a "teacher" of racing.
Alan Baker doesn't know a damn thing about anything.
I know enough about racing to have started in 2012...
...and been invited to instruct just 4 years later.
Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣
I think you established your bonafides. That he is hung up on what
people call BMWs is ridiculous. Who cares.
Heh heh heh... Chris tried the same trick when he ridiculed the use
of the word "vehicle" in immunological contexts - because he was
chilishly trying to get out of the simple fact that he doesn't know
the first thing about immunology - even after having "claimed" to
have a PhD in the sciences.
It's the same with Alan Baker.
Other than that you tried to claim that a facetious comment about
"bimmer" vs "beemer" meant that I couldn't possibly be telling the
truth about being a racing driver and race driving instructor.
He doesn't know the first thing about BMWs. He just doesn't.
I know I own one.
It's not even an exclusive club. BMWs aren't huge fucking secrets. I
have only owned BMW cars since 2001, and while I don't do my own
repairs, I can certainly tell you where to connect jumper cables, how to
do routine maintenance, and so on. Arlen acts like "knowing the first
thing about BMWs" is some huge achievement when it just isn't.
On 2023-12-19 10:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣
Well...
...I COULD take a picture of the dozens of books I have on racing...
...but they're mostly about the design, construction and care and
feeding of race cars.
I do have the seminal work by Niki Lauda on driving:
"The Art and Science of Grand Prix Driving".
Does that count?
:-)
He doesn't know the first thing about BMWs. He just doesn't.
I know I own one.
It's not even an exclusive club. BMWs aren't huge fucking secrets. I
have only owned BMW cars since 2001, and while I don't do my own
repairs, I can certainly tell you where to connect jumper cables, how
to do routine maintenance, and so on. Arlen acts like "knowing the
first thing about BMWs" is some huge achievement when it just isn't.
The truly hilarious part is that he thinks that using two particular
slang terms means you know everything else about race driving.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pics or it's fake news
No doubt you are gullible enough to see a face on Mars.
Unlike you I don't interpret these papers as Holy Gospel.
I am skeptical and in Popperian fashion think sacred cows need to
stand up to rigid treatment.
So I have gone much further than you in my intellectual
development and seen the emperor may not have clothes.
The DK effect appears as an artifact. We are pattern seeking creatures.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Pics or it's fake news
What's interesting is Android updates security about monthly for all
devices on the Internet that are Android 10+, while iOS rarely updates.
On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-19 10:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
Well...
Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣 >>
...I COULD take a picture of the dozens of books I have on racing...
...but they're mostly about the design, construction and care and
feeding of race cars.
I do have the seminal work by Niki Lauda on driving:
"The Art and Science of Grand Prix Driving".
Does that count?
:-)
Pics or it's fake news in Arlen's World! 😉
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Pics or it's fake news
Android updates blah blah blah...
Jolly Roger has claimed that iOS updates more frequently than Android.
What kind of person is that ignorant?
iKooks
On 2023-12-19 15:22, Wally J wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Pics or it's fake news
What's interesting is Android updates security about monthly for all
devices on the Internet that are Android 10+, while iOS rarely updates.
It's more interesting that you're busily running away from the obvious
proof that I'm a race driving instructor...
...and for "interesting" read "hilarious"!
On 2023-12-19 14:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-19 10:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
Well...
Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣 >>>
...I COULD take a picture of the dozens of books I have on racing...
...but they're mostly about the design, construction and care and
feeding of race cars.
I do have the seminal work by Niki Lauda on driving:
"The Art and Science of Grand Prix Driving".
Does that count?
:-)
Pics or it's fake news in Arlen's World! 😉
Well... ...I had all the books on a bookshelf right next to me so...
,https://drive.google.com/file/d/1685A0qiE2t0XtAsYXhq919dTm3WFaaWM/view?usp=share_link>
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
No doubt you are gullible enough to see a face on Mars.
I've been called a lot of things in life, but "gullible" was never one
of those things
He's a pathetic juvenile man child.
On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-19 14:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-19 10:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
Well...
Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣 >>>>
...I COULD take a picture of the dozens of books I have on racing...
...but they're mostly about the design, construction and care and
feeding of race cars.
I do have the seminal work by Niki Lauda on driving:
"The Art and Science of Grand Prix Driving".
Does that count?
:-)
Pics or it's fake news in Arlen's World! 😉
Well... ...I had all the books on a bookshelf right next to me so...
,https://drive.google.com/file/d/1685A0qiE2t0XtAsYXhq919dTm3WFaaWM/view?usp=share_link>
Nice spread!
He then resorts to outright lies...
Nice spread!
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Nice spread!
While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
Does Alan Baker?
Bearing in mind the IQ 40 Alan Baker thinks he's a genius and yet, he repeatedly insisted nobody could change the newsreader header line...
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Nice spread!
While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
Does Alan Baker?
Bearing in mind the IQ 40 Alan Baker thinks he's a genius and yet, he repeatedly insisted nobody could change the newsreader header line...
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-19 16:36, Wally J wrote:The offspring of Sylvester and Tweety Bird?
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Nice spread!
While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
Does Alan Baker?
As a matter of fact, I DO know what a catenary is.
LOL!
Bearing in mind the IQ 40 Alan Baker thinks he's a genius and yet, he
repeatedly insisted nobody could change the newsreader header line...
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing. >>
This should be good.
On 2023-12-19 16:08, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-19 14:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2023-12-19, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-12-19 10:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
Unless you have photos of old racing books, Arlen won't believe you. 🤣
Well...
...I COULD take a picture of the dozens of books I have on racing... >>>>>
...but they're mostly about the design, construction and care and
feeding of race cars.
I do have the seminal work by Niki Lauda on driving:
"The Art and Science of Grand Prix Driving".
Does that count?
:-)
Pics or it's fake news in Arlen's World! 😉
Well... ...I had all the books on a bookshelf right next to me so...
,https://drive.google.com/file/d/1685A0qiE2t0XtAsYXhq919dTm3WFaaWM/view?usp=share_link>
Nice spread!
And I've read them all and do you know what?
Not ONE of them has the word "bimmer" or "beemer" in it?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
Nice spread!
While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
That just means each of the authors don't know the first thing about
cars.
Remember, Alan Browne is the same low-IQ ignorant child-like iKook who repeatedly claimed it was impossible to change newsreader headers, JR.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
All you low-IQ iKooks greatly suffer from the D-K left-quartile flaws, JR.
While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
Is that what you will end up hanging yourself with, you sorry sack of
shit? We can dream...
The offspring of Sylvester and Tweety Bird?Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing. >>LOL!
This should be good.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
That just means each of the authors don't know the first thing about
cars.
It's always the same with you low-IQ ignorant child-like iKooks, JR.
Remember, Alan Browne is the same low-IQ ignorant child-like iKook who repeatedly claimed it was impossible to change newsreader headers, JR.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
All you low-IQ iKooks greatly suffer from the D-K left-quartile flaws, JR.
For example, that you actually believe a technical book would use common slang is interesting. It might. But it just as likely might not. The mere fact they don't use slang isn't any indication that they're unaware of it.
Certainly NOBODY who is on a BMW forum would _ever_ be unaware, JR.
(They ridicule the hell out of any moron who doesn't know these words.)
Remember, Alan Baker "said" he's a racer & teacher - and yet - he clearly
did not know the simplest things about that which he claims excellence.
What's different is that someone who supposedly has been owning BMWs and racing cars (and even "teaching" racing, if you can believe that),
who doesn't know the first thing about those cars - is either extremely
a. ignorant - or -
b. a liar.
Pick one.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
The offspring of Sylvester and Tweety Bird?Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing. >>>LOL!
This should be good.
Rest assured, I read EVERYTHING you write on this newsgroup, Hemidactylus. The reason is I study you strange people as I've never met anyone like you.
You see the word "catenary".
You are told it has something to do with "racing".
Specifically something about "teaching" racing, right?
And your only response is to make silly childish kindergarten jokes?
Every response from you, Hemidactylus, shows your IQ is abnormally low.
Don't worry about your IQ.
You can't do anything about it (except prove it every time you post).
That abnormally low IQ is a trait of all the iKooks, Hemidactylus
Jolly Roger, Alan Browne, Alan Baker, Chris, Lewis, nospam, et al.
Let's see what Alan Baker 40 IQ is capable of responding to with the word "catenary" (given he's a self-proclaimed "instructor of racing"), shall we?
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
While I don't claim to be a racer, I know what a catenary is.
Is that what you will end up hanging yourself with, you sorry sack of
shit? We can dream...
Hi Jolly Roger,
I love when all you iKooks post. I really do. I read EVERYTHING you say.
I learn (about you) from you, in fact, Jolly Roger. And from Alan Browne.
Also from Hemidactylus. It's only Joerg and Alan Baker that I plonked. Everything I post to the child-like Apple newsgroups has a purpose.
A. To disseminate (or learn) facts about Apple products, and,
B. To show the iKooks for what they are.
The reason for bringing up the fact Alan Baker claimed repeatedly that
nobody could change newsreader headers was to prove that the iKooks form
very strong belief systems which are based on exactly zero actual facts.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
It's the same reason I bring up that Alan Baker claimed repeatedly that he "taught racing" and owns a BMW, and yet, he knows nothing about either.
That's why I brought up the word "catenary" which _every_ (real) racer
knows all about, as it's one of the most important words in racing schools.
Yet I'll be Alan Baker is, at this very moment, furiously googling what the word catenary means - and all he's finding is cites about bridge building.
This so-called "racer" is confused by that word. Bewildered. Flummoxed.
His low-IQ brain can't figure out what a catenary has to do with racing.
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote
Remember, Alan Browne is the same low-IQ ignorant child-like iKook who
repeatedly claimed it was impossible to change newsreader headers, JR.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
All you low-IQ iKooks greatly suffer from the D-K left-quartile flaws, JR.
Correction. I get these iKooks confused.
Alan Brown is the low-IQ ignorant iKook who has never seen the walled
garden (and, in fact, he claims because he is ignorant of it, it can't exist).
Who is that ignorant?
Nobody, right?
Nobody but iKooks.
Meanwhile...
Alan Baker is the low-IQ ignorant iKook who claims to teach racing and own BMWs and yet he doesn't know even the slightest about bimmers or beemers.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
The offspring of Sylvester and Tweety Bird?Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing. >>>LOL!
This should be good.
Rest assured, I read EVERYTHING you write on this newsgroup, Hemidactylus. The reason is I study you strange people as I've never met anyone like you.
You see the word "catenary".
You are told it has something to do with "racing".
Specifically something about "teaching" racing, right?
And your only response is to make silly childish kindergarten jokes?
Every response from you, Hemidactylus, shows your IQ is abnormally low.
Don't worry about your IQ.
You can't do anything about it (except prove it every time you post).
That abnormally low IQ is a trait of all the iKooks, Hemidactylus
Jolly Roger, Alan Browne, Alan Baker, Chris, Lewis, nospam, et al.
Let's see what Alan Baker 40 IQ is capable of responding to with the word "catenary" (given he's a self-proclaimed "instructor of racing"), shall we?
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
The offspring of Sylvester and Tweety Bird?Please ask the iKook Alan Baker if he knows how a catenary affects racing.
LOL!
This should be good.
Rest assured, I read EVERYTHING you write on this newsgroup, Hemidactylus. >> The reason is I study you strange people as I've never met anyone like you. >>
You see the word "catenary".
You are told it has something to do with "racing".
Specifically something about "teaching" racing, right?
And your only response is to make silly childish kindergarten jokes?
Every response from you, Hemidactylus, shows your IQ is abnormally low.
Don't worry about your IQ.
You can't do anything about it (except prove it every time you post).
That abnormally low IQ is a trait of all the iKooks, Hemidactylus
Jolly Roger, Alan Browne, Alan Baker, Chris, Lewis, nospam, et al.
Let's see what Alan Baker 40 IQ is capable of responding to with the word
"catenary" (given he's a self-proclaimed "instructor of racing"), shall we?
Oh great an obsessive stalker.
Let's see what Alan Baker 40 IQ is capable of responding to with the word >> "catenary" (given he's a self-proclaimed "instructor of racing"), shall we?
Oh great an obsessive stalker.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
Let's see what Alan Baker 40 IQ is capable of responding to with the word >>> "catenary" (given he's a self-proclaimed "instructor of racing"), shall we? >>Oh great an obsessive stalker.
No. It's the _opposite_ of a stalker, Hemidactylus. He's plonked.
Nonetheless, I'm sure one of you will quote the IQ 40 Alan Baker if he desperately googles to see how a catenary applies to racing, particularly when racing beemers, but it also applies to cagers depending on the track.
If he responds to the challenge, you childish iKooks won't be able to hold yourselves back saying that Alan knew the simplest racing terms after all.
Yet he doesn't.
So he won't.
*You think I don't know how ignorant all you iKooks are Hemidactylus?*
Whether or not you quote his replies, my point is that all you iKooks are
a. Low IQ
b. Uneducated
c. Ignorant
Such that you iKooks are so far to the left of the D-K first quartile that you don't even realize how ignorant you are - as you think you're a genius.
Which is the point.
While I don't ever claim to be a racer, nor a teacher, I probably already know more about racing than the iKook Alan Baker will know in his life.
That's literally how incredibly ignorant all you iKooks are Hemidactylus.
A. *Who is so ignorant to claim Apple fully patches older releases?*
Nobody right? Yet the ignorant iKook Jolly Roger says so all the time.
B. *Who is so ignorant to claim the famed walled garden doesn't exist?*
Nobody right? Yet the ignorant iKook Alan Browne says so all the time.
C. *Who is so ignorant to claim imaginary graphical WiFi strength apps?*
Nobody right? Yet the ignorant nospam fabricates the apps all the time.
It's no longer shocking how utterly ignorant all iKooks are, Hemidactylus.
Which is why I'm positive Alan Baker has no idea of the racing term even as it's one of the most significant and common terms to teach in racing.
However, I suspect that Alan may have a point. I will continue to be amused by
the antics of the trolls and those who rise to their bait - silently.
No. It's the _opposite_ of a stalker, Hemidactylus. He's plonked.I was referring to your "Rest assured, I read EVERYTHING you write on this newsgroup, Hemidactylus." creeper.
Such that you iKooks are so far to the left of the D-K first quartile that >> you don't even realize how ignorant you are - as you think you're a genius. >>So you make up some fictitious category "iKooks" lacking real application
in the world and still cling to the illusory statistical artifact of the
D-K graph.
Then you pretend to lecture me about anything. Silly ignorant kook.
It's no longer shocking how utterly ignorant all iKooks are, Hemidactylus. >>
Which is why I'm positive Alan Baker has no idea of the racing term even as >> it's one of the most significant and common terms to teach in racing.
How would you know?
Aren't you a mere dilettante at best?
Maybe you're way out of your league.
I don't trust you to convey much of anything accurately
as you're just an arrogant blowhard who might have gotten a GED and a mail-order degree from a diploma mill.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
Let's see what Alan Baker 40 IQ is capable of responding to with the word >>> "catenary" (given he's a self-proclaimed "instructor of racing"), shall we? >>Oh great an obsessive stalker.
No. It's the _opposite_ of a stalker, Hemidactylus. He's plonked.
Nonetheless, I'm sure one of you will quote the IQ 40 Alan Baker if he desperately googles to see how a catenary applies to racing, particularly when racing beemers, but it also applies to cagers depending on the track.
If he responds to the challenge, you childish iKooks won't be able to hold yourselves back saying that Alan knew the simplest racing terms after all.
Yet he doesn't.
So he won't.
Which is why I'm positive Alan Baker has no idea of the racing term even as it's one of the most significant and common terms to teach in racing.
Aren't you a mere dilettante at best?Heh heh heh... like I said, Hemidactylus. I never claimed to be a racer.
But I do claim to have higher education.
Which means I understand what a catenary is.
And how it applies to racing.
By contrast, Alan Baker has never heard of a catenary in his entire life.
Even after desperately googling it, he still can't figure out what it is.
And yet, it's one of the most important racing terms there ever was.
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wroteI was referring to your “Rest assured, I read EVERYTHING you write on
Let's see what Alan Baker 40 IQ is capable of responding to with
the word "catenary" (given he's a self-proclaimed "instructor of
racing"), shall we?
Oh great an obsessive stalker.
No. It's the _opposite_ of a stalker, Hemidactylus. He's plonked.
this newsgroup, Hemidactylus.” creeper.
So you make up some fictitious category “iKooks” lacking real
Nonetheless, I'm sure one of you will quote the IQ 40 Alan Baker if
he desperately googles to see how a catenary applies to racing,
particularly when racing beemers, but it also applies to cagers
depending on the track.
If he responds to the challenge, you childish iKooks won't be able to
hold yourselves back saying that Alan knew the simplest racing terms
after all.
Yet he doesn't. So he won't.
*You think I don't know how ignorant all you iKooks are
Hemidactylus?*
Whether or not you quote his replies, my point is that all you iKooks
are a. Low IQ b. Uneducated c. Ignorant
Such that you iKooks are so far to the left of the D-K first quartile
that you don't even realize how ignorant you are - as you think
you're a genius.
application in the world and still cling to the illusory statistical
artifact of the D-K graph. Then you pretend to lecture me about
anything. Silly ignorant kook.
Which is the point.
While I don't ever claim to be a racer, nor a teacher, I probably
already know more about racing than the iKook Alan Baker will know in
his life.
That's literally how incredibly ignorant all you iKooks are
Hemidactylus. A. *Who is so ignorant to claim Apple fully patches
older releases?* Nobody right? Yet the ignorant iKook Jolly Roger
says so all the time.
B. *Who is so ignorant to claim the famed walled garden doesn't
exist?* Nobody right? Yet the ignorant iKook Alan Browne says so all
the time.
C. *Who is so ignorant to claim imaginary graphical WiFi strength
apps?* Nobody right? Yet the ignorant nospam fabricates the apps all
the time.
It's no longer shocking how utterly ignorant all iKooks are,
Hemidactylus.
Which is why I'm positive Alan Baker has no idea of the racing term
even as it's one of the most significant and common terms to teach in
racing.
How would you know? Aren’t you a mere dilettante at best? Maybe you’re way out of your league. I don’t trust you to convey much of anything accurately as you’re just an arrogant blowhard who might have gotten a
GED and a mail-order degree from a diploma mill.
On 2023-12-21 00:40, Wally J wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
Let's see what Alan Baker 40 IQ is capable of responding to with
the word "catenary" (given he's a self-proclaimed "instructor of
racing"), shall we?
Oh great an obsessive stalker.
No. It's the _opposite_ of a stalker, Hemidactylus. He's plonked.
Nonetheless, I'm sure one of you will quote the IQ 40 Alan Baker if
he desperately googles to see how a catenary applies to racing,
particularly when racing beemers, but it also applies to cagers
depending on the track.
1. I don't race a "beemer" or a BMW. I race a 1998 Formula F Van
Diemen RF98 Honda.
If he responds to the challenge, you childish iKooks won't be able to
hold yourselves back saying that Alan knew the simplest racing terms
after all.
2. The challenge is on YOU, Arlen.
Yet he doesn't. So he won't.
I'm pretty sure I know how YOU think it's significant...
...but you're wrong.
Which is why I'm positive Alan Baker has no idea of the racing term
even as it's one of the most significant and common terms to teach in
racing.
It really isn't.
I've:
Attended 3 racing schools.
Raced for a decade.
Taught racing since 2017.
And no one has ever used that term.
Not once.
They can't help but project their own weaknesses onto others.
How would you know? Arent you a mere dilettante at best? Maybe youre
way out of your league. I dont trust you to convey much of anything
accurately as youre just an arrogant blowhard who might have gotten a
GED and a mail-order degree from a diploma mill.
Every single accusation from him is a confession.
It's crystal clear who the real "kook" is here.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
It's crystal clear who the real "kook" is here.
Hi Jolly Roger,
I agree with you. I'll agree with anyone who presents a sensible argument.
*Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/pSJ4OnxviWQ/m/KiMqn1w4AwAJ>
Alan Browne, for example, calls anyone bearing facts, an "it", which is his way of making all inconvenient facts about Apple products go away for him.
Likewise, you claimed many times that Apple fully supports older releases. Just as nospam constantly fabricated imaginary app store apps for iOS.
Alan Baker, admittedly the lowest IQ of all the iKooks, claimed many times that you can't change something as trivial as the newsreader header line.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>
And even now, the IQ 40 iKook Alan Baker "claims" to "teach racing" and yet he doesn't know the simplest most basic of racing terms such as how a catenary applies to racing circuits when it's the most critical component
in terms of racing strategy.
At this moment, Alan is furiously desperately googling & yet he still can't comprehend what he sees because he has never taken Calculus or Physics.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
They can't help but project their own weaknesses onto others.
Actually it's Alan Browne, not me, who calls people bearing facts, an "it".
How would you know? Aren┤ you a mere dilettante at best? Maybe you┴e >>> way out of your league. I don┤ trust you to convey much of anything
accurately as you┴e just an arrogant blowhard who might have gotten a
GED and a mail-order degree from a diploma mill.
Every single accusation from him is a confession.
My point about you iKooks is you're all Dunning-Kruger 1st quartile, JR.
That's why I brought up one of the most important racing terms, which I'm sure that none of you low-IQ uneducated iKooks has any clue why it's so.
You iKooks can only google but it's like you googling the metric tensor.
The low IQ and lack of education means you can't understand what you find.
HINT: Anyone who took Physics would know EXACTLY how a catenary applies to racing in such a way as to make it one of racing's most important terms.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
It's crystal clear who the real "kook" is here.
*Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?*
*Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an "it"?*
*Why does he repeatedly call anyone who disagrees with him "iKooks"?*
Answer: Pure projection, as usual. He, like any other narcissistic
bully, can't help but project his own insecurities and weaknesses onto others. He calls everyone else a "kook" because he knows deep down
that *he* is a kook.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
*Why do these rather strange iKooks repeatedly call people an
"it"?*
*Why does he repeatedly call anyone who disagrees with him "iKooks"?*
Heh heh heh...You're actually too stupid to realize how stupid you
are.
typical juvenile response to being called out.
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
There isn't anyone intelligent in racing circuits who doesn't know the
significance of the catenary in terms of teaching basic racing skills.
I’m not a racer, but I would guess it has something to do with calculating how to enter and exit a curve. As a motorcycle rider there are some very
fine points of curve management one must learn to handle their bike safely.
My point about you iKooks is you're all Dunning-Kruger 1st quartile, JR.Dunning-Kruger is the most abused non-thing ever. You are a charlatan.
Do you know that spacetime is four dimensional and that it's and that mass and energy (which are equivalent) warp it such that gravity isn't a force?
You're abusing people with a dubious psychological construct that has been shown statistically flawed. It's like the only weapon in your arsenal and
it is a dud.
There isn't anyone intelligent in racing circuits who doesn't know the
significance of the catenary in terms of teaching basic racing skills.
Im not a racer, but I would guess it has something to do with calculating how to enter and exit a curve. As a motorcycle rider there are some very
fine points of curve management one must learn to handle their bike safely.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote
There isn't anyone intelligent in racing circuits who doesn't know the
significance of the catenary in terms of teaching basic racing skills.
I▌ not a racer, but I would guess it has something to do with calculating >> how to enter and exit a curve. As a motorcycle rider there are some very
fine points of curve management one must learn to handle their bike safely.
Hi badgolferman,
Exactly. This is why I've never considered you (or Ant or Steve, et al.) an iKook but why _everyone_ knows that Alan Baker, for one, is an iKook.
You have the cognitive ability to comprehend that physical forces are the same in all directions, particularly the forces that suspend a bridge are
the same forces that act upon a motorcycle navigating a curve at speed.
As an aside (owning a K1200 myself as I believe you have a Gold Wing), it mostly applies in racing circuits (as the real world has opposing traffic).
The point of bringing up the catenary or the metric tensor or Christoffel symbols or even Dunning Kruger effects isn't so much what they are - but
that the iKooks are ignorant of them and yet they form strong opinions.
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
as I believe you have a Gold Wing),
Just a minor discrepancy…
It’s actually a Honda Goldwing, not Gold Wing. I know you will find both written versions on the internet and even at the website, but the logo, manual, and electronic screen all print it as Goldwing. The same holds true for the Honda Silverwing.
My mother who is from Germany, gets upset when people refer to the BMW as a Beemer or Bimmer and considers that disrespectful. I tried to tell her Americans shorten words because we’re lazy. Remember International House Of Pancakes (IHOP) and Dairy Queen (DQ) ? I’m sure you can think of many other companies that have given in to slang expressions.
If you don't know, by now, what makes you an iKook, well then, that's
proof positive that I'm correct about everything I've said about you
iKooks.
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
At a bar near him it's claimed he's also a Nobel Laureate in Physics,
Economics and Literature as well as a Fields Medal double dipper.
You have to admit, every time Alan Browne uses the word "it" for a
person,
it proves my point that the iKooks are rather strange people indeed.
He actually believes he's being clever.
I'm not kidding.
I know these iKooks better than they know themselves.
He thinks he's hurting my feelings.
But all he's doing is showing the world that I'm 100% right about
iKooks.
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:effect
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wroteFrom Cracker Jack U? You surely know how to pile high and deeper, I’ll
Again. You need to read the seminal D-K papers, Hemidactylus.I have.
With all due respect, you have not.
That is clear from everything you claimed about it.
You don't know the first thing about what the seminal D-K papers said.
Just as...
a. nospam constantly fabricates imaginary functionality b. But when
asked to point out the app he claims exists...
c. He never can do something as simple as *name just one*
All you iKooks are the same, Hemidaqctylus.
As it's obvious you _never_ read the seminal Dunning-Kruger papers.
You iKooks are perfect examples of those to the left of the first
quartile.
"People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities
in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that
this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are
unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these
people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices,
but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to
realize it. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants,
and thus increasing their metacognitive competence,
helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities."
If you accept, Hemidactylus, that I have higher degrees, you have to
understand how frustrating it is to try to converse with you iKooks.
give you that.
So you will not admit your silly error about whether they actually
There's absolutely nothing even slightly complex you iKooks can
comprehend.
Nothing.
That's frustrating, because EVERYTHING you say, is always dead wrong.
Which, let's face is - is the epitome of the iKook's belief system.
And where do you think I got the quote: "Participants were 65 Cornell
University undergraduates from a variety of courses in psychology who
earned extra credit for their participation" and realized the lemon
juice guy was used merely as an illustrative anecdote.
You are an idiot, Hemidactylus. An utter unfathomably ignorant idiot.
<https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10626367/>
Read the abstract, you idiot.
*Do you see "grammar" in that abstract, you idiot.*
My point isn't to call you an idiot, Hemidactylus; it's to show the
world that EVERYTHING the iKooks say is out of their own sheer & utter
ignorance.
You "think" you can dig up a quote and then that quote you think you
understood well enough to dispute what I said, based on the facts.
This conversation is PERFECT for showing EXACTLY what the iKooks are.
McArthur Wheeler wasn't a part of the study as you claimed since he
wasn't one of the Cornell undergrads. I called you on this ignorant
comment "Dunning & Kruger studied that rather peculiar lemon-juice
covered bank robber" and you lashed out at me.
The seminal papers by Dunning & Kruger were about cognitive bias in
assessing one's own skills, Hemidactylus. You iKooks are in the low
end.
studied the lemon juice guy as you asserted. You are covering for your juvenile embarrassment.
Unlike you I don’t interpret these papers as Holy Gospel. I am skeptical and in Popperian fashion think sacred cows need to stand up to rigid treatment. So I have gone much further than you in my intellectual development and seen the emperor may not have clothes. The DK effect
The problem is you iKooks are hampered by a. No education whatsoever b.
No ability to comprehend anything c. No desire to understand anything
either
All you iKooks ever do is guess.
a. Alan Browne guessed there's no walled garden
(because _he_ was ignorant that it exists)
b. JollY Roger guessed Apple fully patches older releases
(because _he_ was ignorant that they don't)
c. Alan Baker guessed how to race vehicles
(because _he_ is ignorant of the first things in racing)
etc.
All you iKooks always just guess because you do not own the mental
capacity to comprehend something as simple as the Dunning Kruger
seminal papers.
appears as an artifact. We are pattern seeking creatures. No doubt you
are gullible enough to see a face on Mars.
I also read this, which you as a propagandist will continue to ignore:
https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/persistent-irony-dunning-kruger-
Basket weaving is tough. Especially underwater. Congrats on that.
Look Hemidactylus. I have higher degrees. You do not. Mine are in tough
subjects. You could barely pass high school algebra.
I understand that science isn't always black and white, Hemidactylus.
You do not.
Hell, you don't even understand your own cite above for God's sake.
That's why it's no longer shocking how incredibly wrong you iKooks are.
Nor is it shocking that you're entire argument starts with Donald
Trump. Mine don't.
Here are mine:
<https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10626367/>
<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8992690/>
Do you even read your cites? This one says:
“Our explanation of the DK effect is based on the fact that the data are bounded. This feature of the data has not received much attention, with
the exception of Burson et al. (2006), who concluded that the boundary restriction “is an important concern that should be addressed in future research;” and Krajc and Ortmann (2008), who noted that students in the bottom quartile can only make optimistic errors placing themselves into
a higher quartile, while students in the top quartile can only make pessimistic errors placing themselves in a lower quartile.
The remark by Krajc and Ortmann provides the essence of our story.
Consider a brilliant student who typically scores 95 or 99 points out of
100.
Because of the bound at 100, there is not much room to predict higher
than her ability but there is plenty of room to predict lower, so she
would typically predict 85 or 90, thus underestimating her score. The
same happens at the bottom end of the scale, where there is a bound of 0
and a student would typically overestimate. This simple observation is
the basis of our model.”
And: “In this article, we have attempted to provide an explanation of
the DK effect which does not require any psychological explanation. By specifying a simple statistical model which explicitly takes the
(random) boundary constraints into account, we achieve a near-perfect
fit, thus demonstrating that the DK effect is a statistical artifact. In other words: there is an effect, but it does not reflect human nature.”
The abstract says: “An explanation of the Dunning–Kruger effect is provided which does not require any psychological explanation, because
it is derived as a statistical artifact. This is achieved by specifying
a simple statistical model which explicitly takes the (random) boundary constraints into account. The model fits the data almost perfectly.”
Again: “does not require any psychological explanation”
If you weren’t so intellectually dishonest you would stop for more than
a brief moment and reflect on this. You can’t because your arrogance prevents it.
You know how to bullshit yourself though.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:I don’t know how it’s spelled but I have heard a certain crotch rocket referred to as “gixxer”. Hayabusa is a monstrosity derived from that infamous lineage.
as I believe you have a Gold Wing),
Just a minor discrepancy…
It’s actually a Honda Goldwing, not Gold Wing. I know you will find both >> written versions on the internet and even at the website, but the logo,
manual, and electronic screen all print it as Goldwing. The same holds true >> for the Honda Silverwing.
My mother who is from Germany, gets upset when people refer to the BMW as a >> Beemer or Bimmer and considers that disrespectful. I tried to tell her
Americans shorten words because we’re lazy. Remember International House Of
Pancakes (IHOP) and Dairy Queen (DQ) ? I’m sure you can think of many other
companies that have given in to slang expressions.
I was astounded to learn the Tesla Plaid can blow the fairings off these things 0-60. So an ebike is a scarier thought.
as I believe you have a Gold Wing),
Just a minor discrepancy...
It's actually a Honda Goldwing, not Gold Wing. I know you will find both written versions on the internet and even at the website, but the logo, manual, and electronic screen all print it as Goldwing. The same holds true for the Honda Silverwing.
My mother who is from Germany, gets upset when people refer to the BMW as a Beemer or Bimmer and considers that disrespectful.
I tried to tell her Americans shorten words because we're lazy.
Remember International House Of
Pancakes (IHOP) and Dairy Queen (DQ) ? I'm sure you can think of many other companies that have given in to slang expressions.
….Nah, knowing that Beemer is for motorcycles while Bimmer is for cars is
It's most ridiculously used when a person posts how great they are at mechanical stuff on the BMW forums and then they use the ignorant words.
On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 3:07:26 PM UTC-5, Wally J wrote:
….
It's most ridiculously used when a person posts how great they are at
mechanical stuff on the BMW forums and then they use the ignorant words.
Nah, knowing that Beemer is for motorcycles while Bimmer is for cars is
just a niche in BMW marquee trivia: it’s not required to know the ins & outs
on how to track one, or tune a motor, or whatever.
And FWIW, another piece of trivia of equally limited IRL value is that BMW comes in at only 3rd place in the social hierarchy of Germany’s Autobahn.
On 2023-12-29 12:25, -hh wrote:Same; for which goes with which, I know that I need to look it up.
On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 3:07:26 PM UTC-5, Wally J wrote:
….
It's most ridiculously used when a person posts how great they are at
mechanical stuff on the BMW forums and then they use the ignorant words.
Nah, knowing that Beemer is for motorcycles while Bimmer is for cars is just a niche in BMW marquee trivia: it’s not required to know the ins & outs
on how to track one, or tune a motor, or whatever.
I certainly knew both terms...
...but I never really paid attention to which was for bikes and which
for cars.
Recalling, as I didn't make it up. See: <https://www.golfmkv.com/forums/index.php?threads/autobahn-brand-hierarchy.107091/>And FWIW, another piece of trivia of equally limited IRL value is that BMW comes in at only 3rd place in the social hierarchy of Germany’s Autobahn.
So you're thinking:
PorscheYes, that is the pecking order at the top ... even if BMW fanboys don't like it (recalling a drive years ago where an X5 was desperately trying to hang with
Mercedes
BMW?
On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 4:14:53 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2023-12-29 12:25, -hh wrote:
On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 3:07:26 PM UTC-5, Wally J wrote:
….Nah, knowing that Beemer is for motorcycles while Bimmer is for cars is
It's most ridiculously used when a person posts how great they are at
mechanical stuff on the BMW forums and then they use the ignorant words. >>>
just a niche in BMW marquee trivia: it’s not required to know the ins & outs
on how to track one, or tune a motor, or whatever.
I certainly knew both terms...
...but I never really paid attention to which was for bikes and which
for cars.
Same; for which goes with which, I know that I need to look it up.
And FWIW, another piece of trivia of equally limited IRL value is that BMW >>> comes in at only 3rd place in the social hierarchy of Germany’s Autobahn. >>So you're thinking:
Recalling, as I didn't make it up. See: <https://www.golfmkv.com/forums/index.php?threads/autobahn-brand-hierarchy.107091/>
Porsche
Mercedes
BMW?
Yes, that is the pecking order at the top ... even if BMW fanboys don't like it
(recalling a drive years ago where an X5 was desperately trying to hang with a Panamera, just not accepting just how far he was outclassed - it got scary).
Naturally, it continues:
4. Audi
5. VW
6. Opel
[7. Implied: everyone else]
From what I've seen & experienced, it's reasonably accurate, with the obvious exceptions,
such as that the old subcompact ("dustbuster") MB A Class doesn't trump a BMW 5 or 7 sedan.
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