• Re: Apple is effectively marketing "slum tools" for peoplewho live in slums

    From *Hemidactylus*@ecphoric@allspamis.invalid to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps on Sun Dec 24 21:10:49 2023
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    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-24 09:37, Wally J wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

    Racist pig.

    The child-like uneducated low-IQ ignorant iKooks lack the basic adult
    capacity to comprehend even the simplest of concepts such as a catenary.

    Wait...

    ...I thought it was ME who couldn't understand what a catenary


    Nor can these child-like uneducated low-IQ ignorant iKooks comprehend that >> everyone (yes, everyone!) fits in one of the D-K test results quartiles.

    Given those two facts, how could anyone have expected these child-like
    uneducated low-IQ ignorant iKooks to comprehend Apple's marketing strategy? >>
    No surprise.

    Actually, I'm surprised you're the only one who responded that way, as you >> are already on record for making guesses as to what's in the cites, without >> ever bothering to look at the cites.

    There were two types of cites in the OP:
    1. The first type were examples of Apple's marketing
    2. The second type were _analysis_ of Apple's marketing

    He already others based on the statistically
    suspect Dunning Kruger effect that he is incapable to realize has flaws
    given his pseudointellectual tendencies.

    What I said about D-K was I read (and understood) the seminal papers.
    You did not.

    What you don't understand, for example, is everyone fits on the D-K scale. >> That's why they have those quartile markers.

    You have noticed the D-K quartile markers, Hemidactylus, haven't you?
    What do _you_ think they're there for?

    He criticizes Alan who is an expert in teaching of car racing skills
    because he allegedly knows more than anyone else about everything.

    Now you're being too nice to me, Hemidactylus, in praising my skills.
    I clearly stated I know nothing about racing. I said I understood bimmers. >>
    Once you're well educated, you learn enough to know two important things:
    a. Other well educated people know more than you do in their fields, and,
    b. You can easily apply your vast education to other fields (e.g., racing). >>
    What I _said_ was that the catenary is a specific shape for an extremely
    important reason, having all to do with Newtonian forces in nature.

    And an object that is supporting it's own weight in a (semi-)continuous manner...

    ...which isn't anything a racing car is doing when it goes around a corner.


    As such, it's one of the most important curves possible in racing circuits, >> and the fact that someone quoted Alan Baker as saying he's never even heard >> of the catenary, is a problem because an "expert" isn't that ignorant.

    Not one of the instructors I've worked with...

    ...dozens...

    ...nor any of the books on race driving

    ...has ever mentioned it.


    Braggart knuckledragger.

    I realize all you iKooks lack education so your only defense to knowledge
    that everyone else has attained except you, is to try to insult them.

    But wouldn't it be better if you took a Physics or Calculus class and
    simply learned what a catenary is and how it applies to racing circuits?

    He is the punchline of the joke he starts but can't finish.

    What's patently clear is you do not know what a catenary is, Hemidactylus. >> Therefore, you do not know how a catenary applies to the forces of nature. >> Nor, as a result, are you aware of how those forces apply to racing.

    The fact that EVERYONE on the planet who has taken a Physics or Calculus
    class knows EXACTLY what a catenary is - and you and Alan Baker do not -
    is the reason that your only response to facts is to try to insult the
    bearer.

    I know exactly what a catenary is...

    ...and I learned it when I studied physics and calculus...

    ...in both high school AND university.


    Instead of claiming I am a "knuckedragger" because _you_ don't know what a >> catenary is... why don't you - instead - look up how a catenary applies
    the Newtonian forces of nature to the teaching of proper racing circuits).

    It doesn't. That isn't the curve a racing vehicle takes around a corner.

    If you ask nicely, I'll tell you what is.

    :-)

    Given I know a thing or two about lateral genetic transfer in bacteria and immunology in humans he just wound up flying into my cobweb. I lack
    advanced degrees though.

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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps on Sun Dec 24 22:41:37 2023
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    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-24 09:37, Wally J wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

    Racist pig.

    The child-like uneducated low-IQ ignorant iKooks lack the basic adult
    capacity to comprehend even the simplest of concepts such as a catenary.

    Wait...

    ...I thought it was ME who couldn't understand what a catenary


    Nor can these child-like uneducated low-IQ ignorant iKooks comprehend that >>> everyone (yes, everyone!) fits in one of the D-K test results quartiles. >>>
    Given those two facts, how could anyone have expected these child-like
    uneducated low-IQ ignorant iKooks to comprehend Apple's marketing strategy? >>>
    No surprise.

    Actually, I'm surprised you're the only one who responded that way, as you >>> are already on record for making guesses as to what's in the cites, without >>> ever bothering to look at the cites.

    There were two types of cites in the OP:
    1. The first type were examples of Apple's marketing
    2. The second type were _analysis_ of Apple's marketing

    He already others based on the statistically
    suspect Dunning Kruger effect that he is incapable to realize has flaws >>>> given his pseudointellectual tendencies.

    What I said about D-K was I read (and understood) the seminal papers.
    You did not.

    What you don't understand, for example, is everyone fits on the D-K scale. >>> That's why they have those quartile markers.

    You have noticed the D-K quartile markers, Hemidactylus, haven't you?
    What do _you_ think they're there for?

    He criticizes Alan who is an expert in teaching of car racing skills
    because he allegedly knows more than anyone else about everything.

    Now you're being too nice to me, Hemidactylus, in praising my skills.
    I clearly stated I know nothing about racing. I said I understood bimmers. >>>
    Once you're well educated, you learn enough to know two important things: >>> a. Other well educated people know more than you do in their fields, and, >>> b. You can easily apply your vast education to other fields (e.g., racing). >>>
    What I _said_ was that the catenary is a specific shape for an extremely >>> important reason, having all to do with Newtonian forces in nature.

    And an object that is supporting it's own weight in a (semi-)continuous
    manner...

    ...which isn't anything a racing car is doing when it goes around a corner. >>

    As such, it's one of the most important curves possible in racing circuits, >>> and the fact that someone quoted Alan Baker as saying he's never even heard >>> of the catenary, is a problem because an "expert" isn't that ignorant.

    Not one of the instructors I've worked with...

    ...dozens...

    ...nor any of the books on race driving

    ...has ever mentioned it.


    Braggart knuckledragger.

    I realize all you iKooks lack education so your only defense to knowledge >>> that everyone else has attained except you, is to try to insult them.

    But wouldn't it be better if you took a Physics or Calculus class and
    simply learned what a catenary is and how it applies to racing circuits? >>>
    He is the punchline of the joke he starts but can't finish.

    What's patently clear is you do not know what a catenary is, Hemidactylus. >>> Therefore, you do not know how a catenary applies to the forces of nature. >>> Nor, as a result, are you aware of how those forces apply to racing.

    The fact that EVERYONE on the planet who has taken a Physics or Calculus >>> class knows EXACTLY what a catenary is - and you and Alan Baker do not - >>> is the reason that your only response to facts is to try to insult the
    bearer.

    I know exactly what a catenary is...

    ...and I learned it when I studied physics and calculus...

    ...in both high school AND university.


    Instead of claiming I am a "knuckedragger" because _you_ don't know what a >>> catenary is... why don't you - instead - look up how a catenary applies >>> the Newtonian forces of nature to the teaching of proper racing circuits). >>
    It doesn't. That isn't the curve a racing vehicle takes around a corner.

    If you ask nicely, I'll tell you what is.

    :-)

    Given I know a thing or two about lateral genetic transfer in bacteria and immunology in humans he just wound up flying into my cobweb. I lack
    advanced degrees though.

    So does he. He has read some (old) books apparently and is able to take pictures of them.

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  • From *Hemidactylus*@ecphoric@allspamis.invalid to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.apps on Sun Dec 24 23:18:30 2023
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    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-24 14:41, Chris wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-12-24 09:37, Wally J wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

    Racist pig.

    The child-like uneducated low-IQ ignorant iKooks lack the basic adult >>>>> capacity to comprehend even the simplest of concepts such as a catenary. >>>>
    Wait...

    ...I thought it was ME who couldn't understand what a catenary


    Nor can these child-like uneducated low-IQ ignorant iKooks comprehend that
    everyone (yes, everyone!) fits in one of the D-K test results quartiles. >>>>>
    Given those two facts, how could anyone have expected these child-like >>>>> uneducated low-IQ ignorant iKooks to comprehend Apple's marketing strategy?

    No surprise.

    Actually, I'm surprised you're the only one who responded that way, as you
    are already on record for making guesses as to what's in the cites, without
    ever bothering to look at the cites.

    There were two types of cites in the OP:
    1. The first type were examples of Apple's marketing
    2. The second type were _analysis_ of Apple's marketing

    He already others based on the statistically
    suspect Dunning Kruger effect that he is incapable to realize has flaws >>>>>> given his pseudointellectual tendencies.

    What I said about D-K was I read (and understood) the seminal papers. >>>>> You did not.

    What you don't understand, for example, is everyone fits on the D-K scale.
    That's why they have those quartile markers.

    You have noticed the D-K quartile markers, Hemidactylus, haven't you? >>>>> What do _you_ think they're there for?

    He criticizes Alan who is an expert in teaching of car racing skills >>>>>> because he allegedly knows more than anyone else about everything.

    Now you're being too nice to me, Hemidactylus, in praising my skills. >>>>> I clearly stated I know nothing about racing. I said I understood bimmers.

    Once you're well educated, you learn enough to know two important things: >>>>> a. Other well educated people know more than you do in their fields, and, >>>>> b. You can easily apply your vast education to other fields (e.g., racing).

    What I _said_ was that the catenary is a specific shape for an extremely >>>>> important reason, having all to do with Newtonian forces in nature.

    And an object that is supporting it's own weight in a (semi-)continuous >>>> manner...

    ...which isn't anything a racing car is doing when it goes around a corner.


    As such, it's one of the most important curves possible in racing circuits,
    and the fact that someone quoted Alan Baker as saying he's never even heard
    of the catenary, is a problem because an "expert" isn't that ignorant. >>>>
    Not one of the instructors I've worked with...

    ...dozens...

    ...nor any of the books on race driving

    ...has ever mentioned it.


    Braggart knuckledragger.

    I realize all you iKooks lack education so your only defense to knowledge >>>>> that everyone else has attained except you, is to try to insult them. >>>>>
    But wouldn't it be better if you took a Physics or Calculus class and >>>>> simply learned what a catenary is and how it applies to racing circuits? >>>>>
    He is the punchline of the joke he starts but can't finish.

    What's patently clear is you do not know what a catenary is, Hemidactylus.
    Therefore, you do not know how a catenary applies to the forces of nature.
    Nor, as a result, are you aware of how those forces apply to racing. >>>>>
    The fact that EVERYONE on the planet who has taken a Physics or Calculus >>>>> class knows EXACTLY what a catenary is - and you and Alan Baker do not - >>>>> is the reason that your only response to facts is to try to insult the >>>>> bearer.

    I know exactly what a catenary is...

    ...and I learned it when I studied physics and calculus...

    ...in both high school AND university.


    Instead of claiming I am a "knuckedragger" because _you_ don't know what a
    catenary is... why don't you - instead - look up how a catenary applies >>>>> the Newtonian forces of nature to the teaching of proper racing circuits).

    It doesn't. That isn't the curve a racing vehicle takes around a corner. >>>>
    If you ask nicely, I'll tell you what is.

    :-)

    Given I know a thing or two about lateral genetic transfer in bacteria and >>> immunology in humans he just wound up flying into my cobweb. I lack
    advanced degrees though.

    So does he. He has read some (old) books apparently and is able to take
    pictures of them.


    It looks more and more like Arlen simply encounters one book or paper
    (or something) and whatever that first thing says on a particular
    subject becomes his gospel forevermore.

    :-)

    There is a controversy in psychology on what the alleged Dunning Kruger
    effect actually is and not only is Arlen avoiding that I doubt the
    originators intended for it to be weaponized as it has been. Sad state
    really.

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