Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJY2wYfN4gs
This video by a highly experienced Apple products user explains in detail the mess that is Siri. Note that he also has experienced the CarPlay/Siri address lookup failure that I see on a regular basis too.
When you get the money together to get a car with CarPlay and experience it on a daily basis you too will find that Siri on CarPlay is not the same as Siri not on CarPlay. But as explained in the video that is far from the only issue.
On 2024-02-04 05:45, Thomas E. wrote:Asshole, I do understand the difference. I note you do not even respond to the video, just insult the messenger. More details for your education:
Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJY2wYfN4gs
This video by a highly experienced Apple products user explains in detail the mess that is Siri. Note that he also has experienced the CarPlay/Siri address lookup failure that I see on a regular basis too.
When you get the money together to get a car with CarPlay and experience it on a daily basis you too will find that Siri on CarPlay is not the same as Siri not on CarPlay. But as explained in the video that is far from the only issue.Since you don't understand what Siri is to begin with...
...(as evidence by you not understanding the difference between making a general request to Siri vs using voice recognition in a text field that knows it's going to be told an address)...
...perhaps a dick like you should drop it before you look even more stupid?
On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 4:57:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-04 05:45, Thomas E. wrote:
Watch thisSince you don't understand what Siri is to begin with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJY2wYfN4gs
This video by a highly experienced Apple products user explains
in detail the mess that is Siri. Note that he also has
experienced the CarPlay/Siri address lookup failure that I see on
a regular basis too.
When you get the money together to get a car with CarPlay and
experience it on a daily basis you too will find that Siri on
CarPlay is not the same as Siri not on CarPlay. But as explained
in the video that is far from the only issue.
...(as evidence by you not understanding the difference between
making a general request to Siri vs using voice recognition in a
text field that knows it's going to be told an address)...
...perhaps a dick like you should drop it before you look even more
stupid?
Asshole, I do understand the difference. I note you do not even
respond to the video, just insult the messenger. More details for
your education:
Siri is Apple's voice interpretation heuristic algorithm that
interfaces with Google (by default, but 3 other options) to translate
voice requests to the search engine and return results. Siri is
functionally equivalent to the Google Assistant voice interpretation functionality.
Google's voice assistant works better, but pays Apple $billions every
year to make Google the default search engine for iOS. Why? Google
makes money on Search results. Google would love to avoid those
payments to Apple and have its Google Assistant as the iOS default,
but of course Apple loves those Google payments and would never allow
that to happen. However you can still invoke Google Assistant on iOS
with a "Hey Siri Hey Google" verbal command!
Now you need to admit that as shown in the video there are Siri
problems so severe that even Apple developers are reportedly
frustrated with it.
On 2024-02-06 08:09, Thomas E. wrote:You did not explain anything to me, I already knew how Siri works. I did not use a general Siri search for an address. I even gave you a link to a video showing that. I used Siri from Apple Maps running on CarPlay. Searching for an address in Apple Maps and Google Maps is functionally equivalent and should give the same results. What is different is that Siri results when using CarPlay are different from an iPhone alone. Of course, since you don't have CarPlay in your BMW, you cannot even speak to using CarPlay on a daily basis like I do in my Accord and CRV.
On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 4:57:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-04 05:45, Thomas E. wrote:
Watch thisSince you don't understand what Siri is to begin with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJY2wYfN4gs
This video by a highly experienced Apple products user explains
in detail the mess that is Siri. Note that he also has
experienced the CarPlay/Siri address lookup failure that I see on
a regular basis too.
When you get the money together to get a car with CarPlay and
experience it on a daily basis you too will find that Siri on
CarPlay is not the same as Siri not on CarPlay. But as explained
in the video that is far from the only issue.
...(as evidence by you not understanding the difference between
making a general request to Siri vs using voice recognition in a
text field that knows it's going to be told an address)...
...perhaps a dick like you should drop it before you look even more
stupid?
Asshole, I do understand the difference. I note you do not evenAnd as usual, you are now trying to "educate" me about things that I explained to YOU.
respond to the video, just insult the messenger. More details for
your education:
Siri is Apple's voice interpretation heuristic algorithm thatBut it isn't equivalent to expect a general query to Siri to be the same
interfaces with Google (by default, but 3 other options) to translate voice requests to the search engine and return results. Siri is functionally equivalent to the Google Assistant voice interpretation functionality.
as tapping the microphone icon inside the search field of Google Maps, dick.
Google's voice assistant works better, but pays Apple $billions everyWrong on at least a couple of levels, dick.
year to make Google the default search engine for iOS. Why? Google
makes money on Search results. Google would love to avoid those
payments to Apple and have its Google Assistant as the iOS default,
but of course Apple loves those Google payments and would never allow
that to happen. However you can still invoke Google Assistant on iOS
with a "Hey Siri Hey Google" verbal command!
Now you need to admit that as shown in the video there are SiriI don't need to do anything for a dick like you.
problems so severe that even Apple developers are reportedly
frustrated with it.
On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 11:40:14 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-06 08:09, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 4:57:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:And as usual, you are now trying to "educate" me about things that
On 2024-02-04 05:45, Thomas E. wrote:
Watch thisSince you don't understand what Siri is to begin with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJY2wYfN4gs
This video by a highly experienced Apple products user
explains in detail the mess that is Siri. Note that he also
has experienced the CarPlay/Siri address lookup failure that
I see on a regular basis too.
When you get the money together to get a car with CarPlay
and experience it on a daily basis you too will find that
Siri on CarPlay is not the same as Siri not on CarPlay. But
as explained in the video that is far from the only issue.
...(as evidence by you not understanding the difference
between making a general request to Siri vs using voice
recognition in a text field that knows it's going to be told an
address)...
...perhaps a dick like you should drop it before you look even
more stupid?
Asshole, I do understand the difference. I note you do not even
respond to the video, just insult the messenger. More details
for your education:
I explained to YOU.
But it isn't equivalent to expect a general query to Siri to be the
Siri is Apple's voice interpretation heuristic algorithm that
interfaces with Google (by default, but 3 other options) to
translate voice requests to the search engine and return results.
Siri is functionally equivalent to the Google Assistant voice
interpretation functionality.
same as tapping the microphone icon inside the search field of
Google Maps, dick.
Wrong on at least a couple of levels, dick.
Google's voice assistant works better, but pays Apple $billions
every year to make Google the default search engine for iOS. Why?
Google makes money on Search results. Google would love to avoid
those payments to Apple and have its Google Assistant as the iOS
default, but of course Apple loves those Google payments and
would never allow that to happen. However you can still invoke
Google Assistant on iOS with a "Hey Siri Hey Google" verbal
command!
I don't need to do anything for a dick like you.
Now you need to admit that as shown in the video there are Siri
problems so severe that even Apple developers are reportedly
frustrated with it.
You did not explain anything to me, I already knew how Siri works.
I did not use a general Siri search for an address.
I even gave you a link to a video showing that.
I used Siri from Apple Maps running on CarPlay.
Searching for an address in Apple Maps and Google Maps is
functionally equivalent and should give the same results.
What is different is that Siri results when using CarPlay are
different from an iPhone alone.
Of course, since you don't have CarPlay in your BMW, you cannot even
speak to using CarPlay on a daily basis like I do in my Accord and
CRV.
Wrong about Google's Voice Assistant on a couple of levels? What
precisely is wrong? Refute with facts and links, not just
allegations.
If there is an asshole in this conversation it's YOU! You will not
give a complete and honest answer to anything.
On 2024-02-08 05:56, Thomas E. wrote:No I did not use Siri outside Maps. I did take those videos down. My Google Drive space was running low.
On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 11:40:14 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-06 08:09, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 4:57:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:And as usual, you are now trying to "educate" me about things that
On 2024-02-04 05:45, Thomas E. wrote:
Watch thisSince you don't understand what Siri is to begin with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJY2wYfN4gs
This video by a highly experienced Apple products user
explains in detail the mess that is Siri. Note that he also
has experienced the CarPlay/Siri address lookup failure that
I see on a regular basis too.
When you get the money together to get a car with CarPlay
and experience it on a daily basis you too will find that
Siri on CarPlay is not the same as Siri not on CarPlay. But
as explained in the video that is far from the only issue.
...(as evidence by you not understanding the difference
between making a general request to Siri vs using voice
recognition in a text field that knows it's going to be told an
address)...
...perhaps a dick like you should drop it before you look even
more stupid?
Asshole, I do understand the difference. I note you do not even
respond to the video, just insult the messenger. More details
for your education:
I explained to YOU.
But it isn't equivalent to expect a general query to Siri to be the
Siri is Apple's voice interpretation heuristic algorithm that
interfaces with Google (by default, but 3 other options) to
translate voice requests to the search engine and return results.
Siri is functionally equivalent to the Google Assistant voice
interpretation functionality.
same as tapping the microphone icon inside the search field of
Google Maps, dick.
Wrong on at least a couple of levels, dick.
Google's voice assistant works better, but pays Apple $billions
every year to make Google the default search engine for iOS. Why?
Google makes money on Search results. Google would love to avoid
those payments to Apple and have its Google Assistant as the iOS
default, but of course Apple loves those Google payments and
would never allow that to happen. However you can still invoke
Google Assistant on iOS with a "Hey Siri Hey Google" verbal
command!
I don't need to do anything for a dick like you.
Now you need to admit that as shown in the video there are Siri
problems so severe that even Apple developers are reportedly
frustrated with it.
You did not explain anything to me, I already knew how Siri works.No. You clearly did not.
I did not use a general Siri search for an address.Yes. You quite clearly did.
I even gave you a link to a video showing that.Rewriting history again, dick?
I can see you've carefully taken down the videos you used to "prove"
your claims previously.
When was that?
I used Siri from Apple Maps running on CarPlay.No. You gave a general query to Siri without even prefacing it with "directions to".
Searching for an address in Apple Maps and Google Maps isGiving a general query to Siri is functionally different than tapping on
functionally equivalent and should give the same results.
the microphone icon IN Google's address field.
What is different is that Siri results when using CarPlay areNot when they are used in the same way, they aren't.
different from an iPhone alone.
Of course, since you don't have CarPlay in your BMW, you cannot evenNo... ...I can just use my iPhone to do exactly the same things.
speak to using CarPlay on a daily basis like I do in my Accord and
CRV.
Wrong about Google's Voice Assistant on a couple of levels? What
precisely is wrong? Refute with facts and links, not just
allegations.
If there is an asshole in this conversation it's YOU! You will notWhat are your children's full names and birthdates?
give a complete and honest answer to anything.
And Paula's. You certainly didn't mind putting her email out there.
What? You won't give a complete and honest answer?
Shocking.
On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 7:06:01 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-08 05:56, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 11:40:14 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:No. You clearly did not.
On 2024-02-06 08:09, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 4:57:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:And as usual, you are now trying to "educate" me about things
On 2024-02-04 05:45, Thomas E. wrote:
Watch thisSince you don't understand what Siri is to begin with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJY2wYfN4gs
This video by a highly experienced Apple products user
explains in detail the mess that is Siri. Note that he
also has experienced the CarPlay/Siri address lookup
failure that I see on a regular basis too.
When you get the money together to get a car with
CarPlay and experience it on a daily basis you too will
find that Siri on CarPlay is not the same as Siri not on
CarPlay. But as explained in the video that is far from
the only issue.
...(as evidence by you not understanding the difference
between making a general request to Siri vs using voice
recognition in a text field that knows it's going to be
told an address)...
...perhaps a dick like you should drop it before you look
even more stupid?
Asshole, I do understand the difference. I note you do not
even respond to the video, just insult the messenger. More
details for your education:
that I explained to YOU.
But it isn't equivalent to expect a general query to Siri to be
Siri is Apple's voice interpretation heuristic algorithm
that interfaces with Google (by default, but 3 other options)
to translate voice requests to the search engine and return
results. Siri is functionally equivalent to the Google
Assistant voice interpretation functionality.
the same as tapping the microphone icon inside the search field
of Google Maps, dick.
Wrong on at least a couple of levels, dick.
Google's voice assistant works better, but pays Apple
$billions every year to make Google the default search engine
for iOS. Why? Google makes money on Search results. Google
would love to avoid those payments to Apple and have its
Google Assistant as the iOS default, but of course Apple
loves those Google payments and would never allow that to
happen. However you can still invoke Google Assistant on iOS
with a "Hey Siri Hey Google" verbal command!
I don't need to do anything for a dick like you.
Now you need to admit that as shown in the video there are
Siri problems so severe that even Apple developers are
reportedly frustrated with it.
You did not explain anything to me, I already knew how Siri
works.
I did not use a general Siri search for an address.Yes. You quite clearly did.
I even gave you a link to a video showing that.Rewriting history again, dick?
I can see you've carefully taken down the videos you used to
"prove" your claims previously.
When was that?
I used Siri from Apple Maps running on CarPlay.No. You gave a general query to Siri without even prefacing it
with "directions to".
Searching for an address in Apple Maps and Google Maps isGiving a general query to Siri is functionally different than
functionally equivalent and should give the same results.
tapping on the microphone icon IN Google's address field.
What is different is that Siri results when using CarPlay areNot when they are used in the same way, they aren't.
different from an iPhone alone.
Of course, since you don't have CarPlay in your BMW, you cannotNo... ...I can just use my iPhone to do exactly the same things.
even speak to using CarPlay on a daily basis like I do in my
Accord and CRV.
What are your children's full names and birthdates?
Wrong about Google's Voice Assistant on a couple of levels? What
precisely is wrong? Refute with facts and links, not just
allegations.
If there is an asshole in this conversation it's YOU! You will
not give a complete and honest answer to anything.
And Paula's. You certainly didn't mind putting her email out
there.
What? You won't give a complete and honest answer?
Shocking.
No I did not use Siri outside Maps.
I did take those videos down. My Google Drive space was running low.
But I made a YouTube video last April in which I show that Siri on
CarPlay outside and within Maps fails to find two business locations
that Google can. Try the same on CarPlay in YOUR car. Then show me
your results on YouTube.
Here is the video link. You can skip the intro, it has chapter
markers to let you do that. Yes, CarPlay makes a difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R7VdYHcmEk
My wife's and kids' personal details are very different from asking
you to point out my errors. You used that as a deflection to dodge my question because you can't admit I'm correct.
On 2024-02-08 17:17, Thomas E. wrote:For someone who does not use CarPlay on a daily basis you seem to think you know how it works. It's not the same experience you get using Siri from a phone or tablet. As I said in the video, Siri works most of the time. Google Assistant is better at fuzzy logic.
On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 7:06:01 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-08 05:56, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 11:40:14 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:No. You clearly did not.
On 2024-02-06 08:09, Thomas E. wrote:
On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 4:57:51 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:And as usual, you are now trying to "educate" me about things
On 2024-02-04 05:45, Thomas E. wrote:
Watch thisSince you don't understand what Siri is to begin with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJY2wYfN4gs
This video by a highly experienced Apple products user
explains in detail the mess that is Siri. Note that he
also has experienced the CarPlay/Siri address lookup
failure that I see on a regular basis too.
When you get the money together to get a car with
CarPlay and experience it on a daily basis you too will
find that Siri on CarPlay is not the same as Siri not on
CarPlay. But as explained in the video that is far from
the only issue.
...(as evidence by you not understanding the difference
between making a general request to Siri vs using voice
recognition in a text field that knows it's going to be
told an address)...
...perhaps a dick like you should drop it before you look
even more stupid?
Asshole, I do understand the difference. I note you do not
even respond to the video, just insult the messenger. More
details for your education:
that I explained to YOU.
But it isn't equivalent to expect a general query to Siri to be
Siri is Apple's voice interpretation heuristic algorithm
that interfaces with Google (by default, but 3 other options)
to translate voice requests to the search engine and return
results. Siri is functionally equivalent to the Google
Assistant voice interpretation functionality.
the same as tapping the microphone icon inside the search field
of Google Maps, dick.
Wrong on at least a couple of levels, dick.
Google's voice assistant works better, but pays Apple
$billions every year to make Google the default search engine
for iOS. Why? Google makes money on Search results. Google
would love to avoid those payments to Apple and have its
Google Assistant as the iOS default, but of course Apple
loves those Google payments and would never allow that to
happen. However you can still invoke Google Assistant on iOS
with a "Hey Siri Hey Google" verbal command!
I don't need to do anything for a dick like you.
Now you need to admit that as shown in the video there are
Siri problems so severe that even Apple developers are
reportedly frustrated with it.
You did not explain anything to me, I already knew how Siri
works.
I did not use a general Siri search for an address.Yes. You quite clearly did.
I even gave you a link to a video showing that.Rewriting history again, dick?
I can see you've carefully taken down the videos you used to
"prove" your claims previously.
When was that?
I used Siri from Apple Maps running on CarPlay.No. You gave a general query to Siri without even prefacing it
with "directions to".
Searching for an address in Apple Maps and Google Maps isGiving a general query to Siri is functionally different than
functionally equivalent and should give the same results.
tapping on the microphone icon IN Google's address field.
What is different is that Siri results when using CarPlay areNot when they are used in the same way, they aren't.
different from an iPhone alone.
Of course, since you don't have CarPlay in your BMW, you cannotNo... ...I can just use my iPhone to do exactly the same things.
even speak to using CarPlay on a daily basis like I do in my
Accord and CRV.
What are your children's full names and birthdates?
Wrong about Google's Voice Assistant on a couple of levels? What
precisely is wrong? Refute with facts and links, not just
allegations.
If there is an asshole in this conversation it's YOU! You will
not give a complete and honest answer to anything.
And Paula's. You certainly didn't mind putting her email out
there.
What? You won't give a complete and honest answer?
Shocking.
No I did not use Siri outside Maps.You're a liar or just too stupid to drive.
You used SIRI and simply assumed that if Maps was showing, that anything
you said would be limited to directions.
I did take those videos down. My Google Drive space was running low.Sure... ...dick.
But I made a YouTube video last April in which I show that Siri onAnd you still don't understand that Siri via CarPlay is STILL just using Siri...
CarPlay outside and within Maps fails to find two business locations
that Google can. Try the same on CarPlay in YOUR car. Then show me
your results on YouTube.
...ON YOUR PHONE.
Here is the video link. You can skip the intro, it has chapter
markers to let you do that. Yes, CarPlay makes a difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R7VdYHcmEkAnd right away, you assume that because you've brought up Apple Maps, anything you say to Siri will be interpreted as a request for directions:
"Hey Siri, Northeast Taildraggers RC Club, Noblesville".
As I've now said many times (because you're apparently too thick to comprehend it):
Siri is a general purpose digital assistant.
Just because Apple Maps is frontmost doesn't prevent you from asking
Siri to play music or make a phone call.
And even if Apple Maps doesn't find "Northeastside Taildraggers RC
Aviation Club" (that's the name Google finds for it), that has nothing
to do with Siri per se.
And when you said, "12999" you dropped "north"...
...but when you searched using Google Maps, you suddenly included
"north" again.
You don't have an honest bone in your entire body... ...dick.
And as we discussed before, you could have simple said "Get directions
to Manor Care".
That works from here in Vancouver... ...dick.
My wife's and kids' personal details are very different from askingI used it to point out your hypocrisy...
you to point out my errors. You used that as a deflection to dodge my question because you can't admit I'm correct.
..and it worked just as I thought.
If I don't answer to your satisfaction, that means I have something to
hide; even when it IS private.
For someone who does not use CarPlay on a daily basis you seem to think
you know how it works. It's not the same experience you get using Siri
from a phone or tablet. As I said in the video, Siri works most of the
time. Google Assistant is better at fuzzy logic.
Finally, if Siri cannot understand that a request coming from the Apple
Maps App on CarPlay is asking for a location or directions what good is
it for that purpose? That's the basis of the many issues cited in the
YouTube video cited above. Now with the launch of Copilot Siri is
falling even farther behind.
On 2024-02-12 08:41, Thomas E. wrote:No Alan, you lied yet again. After trying a general Siri search within Apple Maps, without success, I invoked Siri with a tap on the screen. Go to 5:36 at the URL below. I tap the Siri icon. Siri's responded "Where do you want to go." clearly indicating that Siri was aware I was making a request from the Apple Maps app and wants a location for navigation. Siri did not find the requested location.
For someone who does not use CarPlay on a daily basis you seem to think you know how it works. It's not the same experience you get using Siri from a phone or tablet. As I said in the video, Siri works most of the time. Google Assistant is better at fuzzy logic.
Finally, if Siri cannot understand that a request coming from the Apple Maps App on CarPlay is asking for a location or directions what good isWow, you are thick, dick.
it for that purpose? That's the basis of the many issues cited in the YouTube video cited above. Now with the launch of Copilot Siri is
falling even farther behind.
"if Siri cannot understand that a request coming from the Apple Maps App
on CarPlay is asking for a location or directions what good is it for
that purpose?"
Because, you incredible simpleton...
...Siri is the GENERAL PURPOSE DIGITAL ASSISTANT.
What application is in the foreground makes no difference to Siri's response. For all Siri can know, you could be asking to play music, or
make a phone call, and if you want to just give a location when Apple
Maps is foremost, there is an interface within CarPlay to do PRECISELY
that. And what's more, you know it, you lying piece of shit.
All through these comparisons, you have deliberately compared making a general query to Siri with tapping the microphone icon WITHIN Google
Maps location field. That is utterly dishonest, and so very much on brand.
On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:53:19 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-12 08:41, Thomas E. wrote:
For someone who does not use CarPlay on a daily basis you seem toWow, you are thick, dick. "if Siri cannot understand that a request
think you know how it works. It's not the same experience you get
using Siri from a phone or tablet. As I said in the video, Siri
works most of the time. Google Assistant is better at fuzzy
logic.
Finally, if Siri cannot understand that a request coming from the
Apple Maps App on CarPlay is asking for a location or directions
what good is it for that purpose? That's the basis of the many
issues cited in the YouTube video cited above. Now with the
launch of Copilot Siri is falling even farther behind.
coming from the Apple Maps App on CarPlay is asking for a location
or directions what good is it for that purpose?" Because, you
incredible simpleton...
...Siri is the GENERAL PURPOSE DIGITAL ASSISTANT.
What application is in the foreground makes no difference to
Siri's response. For all Siri can know, you could be asking to play
music, or make a phone call, and if you want to just give a
location when Apple Maps is foremost, there is an interface within
CarPlay to do PRECISELY that. And what's more, you know it, you
lying piece of shit.
All through these comparisons, you have deliberately compared
making a general query to Siri with tapping the microphone icon
WITHIN Google Maps location field. That is utterly dishonest, and
so very much on brand.
No Alan, you lied yet again. After trying a general Siri search
within Apple Maps, without success, I invoked Siri with a tap on the
screen. Go to 5:36 at the URL below. I tap the Siri icon. Siri's
responded "Where do you want to go." clearly indicating that Siri was
aware I was making a request from the Apple Maps app and wants a
location for navigation. Siri did not find the requested location.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R7VdYHcmEk
Now go to 6:40 and you are in Google Maps. I tap the voice icon and
make the same request. Google Maps finds the correct location and
offers navigation.
Now open Apple Maps on your iPhone. Tap the microphone icon. Say
"Northeast Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville". My result is "No
matching places found". If you get a different result please post a
video showing how you did it.
Now, from the iPhone home page ask Siri "Navigate to Northeast
Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville" and "Drive to Northeast
Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville". Siri returns general search
results. Maps is not invoked with driving directions. At least not
here.
So why can Google find it and Siri cannot? Why does "Drive to ..."
not invoke Apple Maps? Siri's heuristics.
Please admit that if you tap the Siri icon from within Apple Maps on
CarPlay Siri knows the request is coming from Maps.
On 2024-02-14 03:58, Thomas E. wrote:Not really a surprise. A mapping gap that I’ve recently found is this address: “4 Volunteers Court, Lake Hiawatha, NJ 07034”
On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:53:19 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-12 08:41, Thomas E. wrote:
For someone who does not use CarPlay on a daily basis you seem toWow, you are thick, dick. "if Siri cannot understand that a request
think you know how it works. It's not the same experience you get
using Siri from a phone or tablet. As I said in the video, Siri
works most of the time. Google Assistant is better at fuzzy
logic.
Finally, if Siri cannot understand that a request coming from the
Apple Maps App on CarPlay is asking for a location or directions
what good is it for that purpose? That's the basis of the many
issues cited in the YouTube video cited above. Now with the
launch of Copilot Siri is falling even farther behind.
coming from the Apple Maps App on CarPlay is asking for a location
or directions what good is it for that purpose?" Because, you
incredible simpleton...
...Siri is the GENERAL PURPOSE DIGITAL ASSISTANT.
What application is in the foreground makes no difference to
Siri's response. For all Siri can know, you could be asking to play
music, or make a phone call, and if you want to just give a
location when Apple Maps is foremost, there is an interface within
CarPlay to do PRECISELY that. And what's more, you know it, you
lying piece of shit.
All through these comparisons, you have deliberately compared
making a general query to Siri with tapping the microphone icon
WITHIN Google Maps location field. That is utterly dishonest, and
so very much on brand.
No Alan, you lied yet again. After trying a general Siri search
within Apple Maps, without success, I invoked Siri with a tap on the screen. Go to 5:36 at the URL below. I tap the Siri icon. Siri's
responded "Where do you want to go." clearly indicating that Siri was aware I was making a request from the Apple Maps app and wants a
location for navigation. Siri did not find the requested location.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R7VdYHcmEk
Now go to 6:40 and you are in Google Maps. I tap the voice icon and
make the same request. Google Maps finds the correct location and
offers navigation.
Now open Apple Maps on your iPhone. Tap the microphone icon. Say "Northeast Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville". My result is "No
matching places found". If you get a different result please post a
video showing how you did it.
Now, from the iPhone home page ask Siri "Navigate to Northeast Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville" and "Drive to Northeast
Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville". Siri returns general search
results. Maps is not invoked with driving directions. At least not
here.
So why can Google find it and Siri cannot? Why does "Drive to ..."
not invoke Apple Maps? Siri's heuristics.
Please admit that if you tap the Siri icon from within Apple Maps on CarPlay Siri knows the request is coming from Maps.
"This video by a highly experienced Apple products user explains in
detail the mess that is Siri."
All you've discovered is that Apple hasn't included an obscure little hobbyist club in their database...
...dick.
On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-14 03:58, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:53:19 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-12 08:41, Thomas E. wrote:
For someone who does not use CarPlay on a daily basis you seem toWow, you are thick, dick. "if Siri cannot understand that a request
think you know how it works. It's not the same experience you get
using Siri from a phone or tablet. As I said in the video, Siri
works most of the time. Google Assistant is better at fuzzy
logic.
Finally, if Siri cannot understand that a request coming from the
Apple Maps App on CarPlay is asking for a location or directions
what good is it for that purpose? That's the basis of the many
issues cited in the YouTube video cited above. Now with the
launch of Copilot Siri is falling even farther behind.
coming from the Apple Maps App on CarPlay is asking for a location
or directions what good is it for that purpose?" Because, you
incredible simpleton...
...Siri is the GENERAL PURPOSE DIGITAL ASSISTANT.
What application is in the foreground makes no difference to
Siri's response. For all Siri can know, you could be asking to play
music, or make a phone call, and if you want to just give a
location when Apple Maps is foremost, there is an interface within
CarPlay to do PRECISELY that. And what's more, you know it, you
lying piece of shit.
All through these comparisons, you have deliberately compared
making a general query to Siri with tapping the microphone icon
WITHIN Google Maps location field. That is utterly dishonest, and
so very much on brand.
No Alan, you lied yet again. After trying a general Siri search
within Apple Maps, without success, I invoked Siri with a tap on the
screen. Go to 5:36 at the URL below. I tap the Siri icon. Siri's
responded "Where do you want to go." clearly indicating that Siri was
aware I was making a request from the Apple Maps app and wants a
location for navigation. Siri did not find the requested location.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R7VdYHcmEk
Now go to 6:40 and you are in Google Maps. I tap the voice icon and
make the same request. Google Maps finds the correct location and
offers navigation.
Now open Apple Maps on your iPhone. Tap the microphone icon. Say
"Northeast Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville". My result is "No
matching places found". If you get a different result please post a
video showing how you did it.
Now, from the iPhone home page ask Siri "Navigate to Northeast
Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville" and "Drive to Northeast
Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville". Siri returns general search
results. Maps is not invoked with driving directions. At least not
here.
So why can Google find it and Siri cannot? Why does "Drive to ..."
not invoke Apple Maps? Siri's heuristics.
Please admit that if you tap the Siri icon from within Apple Maps on
CarPlay Siri knows the request is coming from Maps.
"This video by a highly experienced Apple products user explains in
detail the mess that is Siri."
All you've discovered is that Apple hasn't included an obscure little
hobbyist club in their database...
...dick.
Not really a surprise. A mapping gap that I’ve recently found is this address: “4 Volunteers Court, Lake Hiawatha, NJ 07034”
Apple Maps has nothing, whereas Google *claims* to know, but is wrong.
Until either/both get fixed, the pragmatic solution is to use the supermarket located around the corner as one’s navigation landmark.
On 2024-02-14 08:50, -hh wrote:You lying shit. That's because it did not work. Siri results do not include a whole set of area Majestic Care locations, the correct name for that facility.
On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-14 03:58, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 12:53:19 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
On 2024-02-12 08:41, Thomas E. wrote:
For someone who does not use CarPlay on a daily basis you seem to >>>>> think you know how it works. It's not the same experience you get >>>>> using Siri from a phone or tablet. As I said in the video, SiriWow, you are thick, dick. "if Siri cannot understand that a request >>>> coming from the Apple Maps App on CarPlay is asking for a location
works most of the time. Google Assistant is better at fuzzy
logic.
Finally, if Siri cannot understand that a request coming from the >>>>> Apple Maps App on CarPlay is asking for a location or directions
what good is it for that purpose? That's the basis of the many
issues cited in the YouTube video cited above. Now with the
launch of Copilot Siri is falling even farther behind.
or directions what good is it for that purpose?" Because, you
incredible simpleton...
...Siri is the GENERAL PURPOSE DIGITAL ASSISTANT.
What application is in the foreground makes no difference to
Siri's response. For all Siri can know, you could be asking to play >>>> music, or make a phone call, and if you want to just give a
location when Apple Maps is foremost, there is an interface within
CarPlay to do PRECISELY that. And what's more, you know it, you
lying piece of shit.
All through these comparisons, you have deliberately compared
making a general query to Siri with tapping the microphone icon
WITHIN Google Maps location field. That is utterly dishonest, and
so very much on brand.
No Alan, you lied yet again. After trying a general Siri search
within Apple Maps, without success, I invoked Siri with a tap on the
screen. Go to 5:36 at the URL below. I tap the Siri icon. Siri's
responded "Where do you want to go." clearly indicating that Siri was >>> aware I was making a request from the Apple Maps app and wants a
location for navigation. Siri did not find the requested location.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R7VdYHcmEk
Now go to 6:40 and you are in Google Maps. I tap the voice icon and
make the same request. Google Maps finds the correct location and
offers navigation.
Now open Apple Maps on your iPhone. Tap the microphone icon. Say
"Northeast Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville". My result is "No
matching places found". If you get a different result please post a
video showing how you did it.
Now, from the iPhone home page ask Siri "Navigate to Northeast
Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville" and "Drive to Northeast
Taildraggers RC Club Noblesville". Siri returns general search
results. Maps is not invoked with driving directions. At least not
here.
So why can Google find it and Siri cannot? Why does "Drive to ..."
not invoke Apple Maps? Siri's heuristics.
Please admit that if you tap the Siri icon from within Apple Maps on
CarPlay Siri knows the request is coming from Maps.
"This video by a highly experienced Apple products user explains in
detail the mess that is Siri."
All you've discovered is that Apple hasn't included an obscure little
hobbyist club in their database...
...dick.
Not really a surprise. A mapping gap that I’ve recently found is this address: “4 Volunteers Court, Lake Hiawatha, NJ 07034”
Apple Maps has nothing, whereas Google *claims* to know, but is wrong.
Until either/both get fixed, the pragmatic solution is to use the supermarketYup. Just like little Tommy was told that if for some reason Apple Maps
located around the corner as one’s navigation landmark.
(not Siri) doesn't understand "12999 North Pennsylvania Street", he
could simply have said "Manor Care".
Surprise, surprise, he never acknowledged that that worked.
Until either/both get fixed, the pragmatic solution is to use theYup. Just like little Tommy was told that if for some reason Apple
supermarket located around the corner as one’s navigation
landmark.
Maps (not Siri) doesn't understand "12999 North Pennsylvania
Street", he could simply have said "Manor Care".
Surprise, surprise, he never acknowledged that that worked.
You lying shit. That's because it did not work. Siri results do not
include a whole set of area Majestic Care locations, the correct name
for that facility.
From my location Siri asked for "Manor Care" brings up 2 facilities
nowhere close to Carmel, not to mention Pennsylvania St.
The facility
at 12999 N. Penn. is Majestic Care. When I ask Siri for Majestic Care
I get a single location in Sheridan IN. Same request on Google brings
up about a dozen locations for this large chain of elder care
facilities, including the one in Sheridan and the one at 12999 N.
Penn.
Screen recording, you can see what I requested on-screen:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wki5uxXtMAoVtIwsv53xAc07Wq55zz8s/view?usp=sharing
Siri is a mess. Far inferior to Google's results.
On 2024-02-19 09:13, Thomas E. wrote:You lying shit. You said above try "Manor Care" now you give me a different name. How is everyone supposed to know the old name if looking for the address?
Until either/both get fixed, the pragmatic solution is to use theYup. Just like little Tommy was told that if for some reason Apple
supermarket located around the corner as one’s navigation
landmark.
Maps (not Siri) doesn't understand "12999 North Pennsylvania
Street", he could simply have said "Manor Care".
Surprise, surprise, he never acknowledged that that worked.
You lying shit. That's because it did not work. Siri results do not include a whole set of area Majestic Care locations, the correct nameSorry, but until recently it was "HCR ManorCare" and now it is
for that facility.
"ManorCare Assisted Living of Summer Trace"
From my location Siri asked for "Manor Care" brings up 2 facilities nowhere close to Carmel, not to mention Pennsylvania St.So explain why it works perfectly for me, dick. You've seen the videos
from me:
The facility<https://www.promedicaskillednursing.org/locations/manorcare-assisted-living-of-summer-trace-redirect/>
at 12999 N. Penn. is Majestic Care. When I ask Siri for Majestic Care
I get a single location in Sheridan IN. Same request on Google brings
up about a dozen locations for this large chain of elder care
facilities, including the one in Sheridan and the one at 12999 N.
Penn.
And:
<https://www.mapquest.com/us/indiana/hcr-manor-care-417674271>
So not only does Apple Maps still know it as "HCR Manor Care"...
...so does MapQuest...
...and Google will still find it by its old name as well:
<https://www.google.com/maps/place/ManorCare+Assisted+Living+of+Summer+Trace/@39.9753555,-86.1565977,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x8814ac41c29b5491:0xf1c331f5780205c5!8m2!3d39.9753555!4d-86.1540228!16s%2Fg%2F1tdy9p2k?entry=ttu>
So, as usual, you lie by semantics, dick.
Screen recording, you can see what I requested on-screen:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wki5uxXtMAoVtIwsv53xAc07Wq55zz8s/view?usp=sharing"It's taking longer than expected to process your video."
How convenient.
Siri is a mess. Far inferior to Google's results.Dickhead: SIRI is NOT Apple MAPS.
On 2024-02-19 09:13, Thomas E. wrote:Siri is a mess. A few citations: https://www.howtogeek.com/siri-still-sucks-how-to-work-around-it/ https://piunikaweb.com/2023/10/17/iphone-users-disappointed-with-siri-even-after-ios-17-update/
Until either/both get fixed, the pragmatic solution is to use theYup. Just like little Tommy was told that if for some reason Apple
supermarket located around the corner as one’s navigation
landmark.
Maps (not Siri) doesn't understand "12999 North Pennsylvania
Street", he could simply have said "Manor Care".
Surprise, surprise, he never acknowledged that that worked.
You lying shit. That's because it did not work. Siri results do not include a whole set of area Majestic Care locations, the correct nameSorry, but until recently it was "HCR ManorCare" and now it is
for that facility.
"ManorCare Assisted Living of Summer Trace"
From my location Siri asked for "Manor Care" brings up 2 facilities nowhere close to Carmel, not to mention Pennsylvania St.So explain why it works perfectly for me, dick. You've seen the videos
from me:
The facility<https://www.promedicaskillednursing.org/locations/manorcare-assisted-living-of-summer-trace-redirect/>
at 12999 N. Penn. is Majestic Care. When I ask Siri for Majestic Care
I get a single location in Sheridan IN. Same request on Google brings
up about a dozen locations for this large chain of elder care
facilities, including the one in Sheridan and the one at 12999 N.
Penn.
And:
<https://www.mapquest.com/us/indiana/hcr-manor-care-417674271>
So not only does Apple Maps still know it as "HCR Manor Care"...
...so does MapQuest...
...and Google will still find it by its old name as well:
<https://www.google.com/maps/place/ManorCare+Assisted+Living+of+Summer+Trace/@39.9753555,-86.1565977,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x8814ac41c29b5491:0xf1c331f5780205c5!8m2!3d39.9753555!4d-86.1540228!16s%2Fg%2F1tdy9p2k?entry=ttu>
So, as usual, you lie by semantics, dick.
Screen recording, you can see what I requested on-screen:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wki5uxXtMAoVtIwsv53xAc07Wq55zz8s/view?usp=sharing"It's taking longer than expected to process your video."
How convenient.
Siri is a mess. Far inferior to Google's results.Dickhead: SIRI is NOT Apple MAPS.
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