• Why do Apple trolls espouse opinions that NOBODY else in the world would agree with?

    From Marian@marianjones@helpfulpeople.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Dec 10 14:26:23 2025
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    Why do Apple trolls espouse opinions that NOBODY else in the world would
    agree with?

    Why do Apple trolls always fail this simple test of whether someone agrees?
    *Find just One*

    For years, nospam failed the simple "find just one" reputable reference who agrees with him, which is the simple test all Apple trolls instantly fail.
    *Find just One*

    In a recent thread on WPS, the Apple trolls are desperate to claim that
    Apple's insecure WPS system is no big deal and that it's a nothing burger.

    *Yet, the only people on the planet saying that, are the Apple trolls.*

    Nobody else in the world would claim what the Apple trolls claim.

    For example, recently, Chris essentially claimed the Apple WPS security researchers were full of shit, where I simply asked Chris to back up his
    point of view with just one reference to a security researcher who agrees
    with him.

    Why is it the Apple trolls are the only people on the planet who believe
    what they espouse?

    Why can't the Apple trolls *ever* find just one reference backing them up?
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed Dec 10 21:28:26 2025
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    On Dec 10, 2025 at 2:26:23 PM MST, "Marian" wrote <10hcoi1$14e8$2@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:


    Why do Apple trolls espouse opinions that NOBODY else in the world would agree with?

    You seem unable to help it... but the fact you are asking is a step in the right direction. How are you hoping to move forward to do better?

    ...
    --
    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed Dec 10 22:09:54 2025
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    On Dec 10, 2025 at 4:26:23 PM EST, "Marian" <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> wrote:


    Why do Apple trolls espouse opinions that NOBODY else in the world would agree with?

    Good question.

    We are always wondering why you - since you are the only Apple Troll here - spout your opinions as facts. Or spout absurd lies as facts. All of which are exposed/debunked by the links that YOU provide.

    Why DO you do that?

    Why do you claim that iPhones can't be used as an SMB server? Not true.

    Why do you claim that iOS is less secure than Android? Not true.

    Why do you claim that "Apple Plead Guilty" to something in France? Not true.

    Why do you claim that "Even if only 1 line of code was changed, Apple sends
    out the ENTIRE iOS as an update"? Never true. iOS, being Unix, is not monolithic.

    Why do you claim that iPhones are less efficient than Android, even though iPhones run longer using smaller batteries than Android phones?

    Why do you claim that iPhone owners are just "following the herd"? If we were "following the herd", we would be using Android phones. The "herd" IS the majority. Not the minority.

    On what basis do you claim to know the education status of the users of ANY product?

    Why do you claim that people can be "tracked" by - of all things - a
    router????

    Why do you claim that people who don't believe all of the above are stupid?

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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Dec 11 00:17:47 2025
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    On Dec 10, 2025 at 3:09:54 PM MST, "Tyrone" wrote <_bKdnWLRWtYvcqT0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@supernews.com>:

    On Dec 10, 2025 at 4:26:23 PM EST, "Marian" <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> wrote:


    Why do Apple trolls espouse opinions that NOBODY else in the world would
    agree with?

    Good question.

    We are always wondering why you - since you are the only Apple Troll here - spout your opinions as facts. Or spout absurd lies as facts. All of which are exposed/debunked by the links that YOU provide.

    Why DO you do that?

    Why do you claim that iPhones can't be used as an SMB server? Not true.

    As you demonstrated.

    Why do you claim that iOS is less secure than Android? Not true.

    As many have noted and I showed MASSIVE support for in terms of research.

    Why do you claim that "Apple Plead Guilty" to something in France? Not true.

    I do not even know what he is claiming.

    Why do you claim that "Even if only 1 line of code was changed, Apple sends out the ENTIRE iOS as an update"? Never true. iOS, being Unix, is not monolithic.

    He does not know files can be updated?

    Why do you claim that iPhones are less efficient than Android, even though iPhones run longer using smaller batteries than Android phones?

    Why do you claim that iPhone owners are just "following the herd"? If we were
    "following the herd", we would be using Android phones. The "herd" IS the majority. Not the minority.

    Fair.

    On what basis do you claim to know the education status of the users of ANY product?

    Pure emotion.

    Why do you claim that people can be "tracked" by - of all things - a router????

    I went to the store today. Turned around and my router was right there! Following me. Reporting what isle I was on to BIG BROTHER!


    Why do you claim that people who don't believe all of the above are stupid?

    Of course, WE all know the answer. We are just waiting for you to get a clue.

    He won't.
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    It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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  • From Tyrone@none@none.none to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Dec 11 05:26:00 2025
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    On Dec 10, 2025 at 7:17:47 PM EST, "Brock McNuggets" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Dec 10, 2025 at 3:09:54 PM MST, "Tyrone" wrote <_bKdnWLRWtYvcqT0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@supernews.com>:

    On Dec 10, 2025 at 4:26:23 PM EST, "Marian" <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com>
    wrote:


    Why do Apple trolls espouse opinions that NOBODY else in the world would >>> agree with?

    Good question.

    We are always wondering why you - since you are the only Apple Troll here - >> spout your opinions as facts. Or spout absurd lies as facts. All of which are
    exposed/debunked by the links that YOU provide.

    Why DO you do that?

    Why do you claim that iPhones can't be used as an SMB server? Not true.

    As you demonstrated.

    Why do you claim that iOS is less secure than Android? Not true.

    As many have noted and I showed MASSIVE support for in terms of research.

    Why do you claim that "Apple Plead Guilty" to something in France? Not true.

    I do not even know what he is claiming.

    This was a couple years ago. His claim was that Apple "plead guilty" in court in France to something. I forget what the specific charge was. Nevermind that COMPANIES don't plead guilty. It would be some person(s) at the company pleading (or being found) guilty of whatever.

    He of course provided a link to the story. Which OF COURSE he did not read. The link clearly stated that France OFFERED TO SETTLE out of court. Apple of course accepted and paid a small fine. When settling out of court, no one is EVER found guilty (let alone PLEAD guilty) of anything because there is no adjudication by the court.

    Needless to say, when the plaintiff (France in this case) offers to settle, it means they know they have no case and are - in fact - just looking for a pay day. So AGAIN, this claim was total bullshit.


    Why do you claim that "Even if only 1 line of code was changed, Apple sends >> out the ENTIRE iOS as an update"? Never true. iOS, being Unix, is not
    monolithic.

    He does not know files can be updated?

    He does not know ANYTHING about iOS/iPadOS. If he had a single iPhone/iPad, he would know that many .1/.1.1/.2.1/.whatever updates can be 50MB/100MB/500MB.
    Full version upgrades are around 5GB or more. OBVIOUSLY, the entire
    iOS/iPadOS is NOT sent for every update. More total bullshit.


    Why do you claim that iPhones are less efficient than Android, even though >> iPhones run longer using smaller batteries than Android phones?

    Why do you claim that iPhone owners are just "following the herd"? If we were
    "following the herd", we would be using Android phones. The "herd" IS the >> majority. Not the minority.

    Fair.

    On what basis do you claim to know the education status of the users of ANY >> product?

    Pure emotion.

    Why do you claim that people can be "tracked" by - of all things - a
    router????

    I went to the store today. Turned around and my router was right there! Following me. Reporting what isle I was on to BIG BROTHER!

    LOL, yeah man. Because since Big Brother needs to know where you are at all times, your router is obviously the best way to do that.


    Why do you claim that people who don't believe all of the above are stupid? >>
    Of course, WE all know the answer. We are just waiting for you to get a clue.

    He won't.

    Obviously. He has been posting total bullshit for about 5 years. The very definition of Troll.
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  • From Marian@marianjones@helpfulpeople.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed Dec 10 22:26:19 2025
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    Tyrone wrote:
    Why do Apple trolls espouse opinions that NOBODY else in the world would
    agree with?

    Good question.

    The main reason Apple trolls can't ever back up their claims about Apple
    can do no wrong, is that nobody but the Apple trolls believes their claim.

    We are always wondering why you - since you are the only Apple Troll here - spout your opinions as facts. Or spout absurd lies as facts. All of which are exposed/debunked by the links that YOU provide.

    Why DO you do that?

    I have always told you Apple trolls I have two goals on this newsgroup.
    Why can't you Apple trolls understand the simplest of concepts?


    Why do you claim that iPhones can't be used as an SMB server? Not true.

    It's not surprising you Apple trolls lack the IQ to figure out what
    happened. You're actually too stupid to understand what was said many
    times.

    1. The fact that iOS apps can use privileged ports was a shock to everyone
    who knows anything about Linux and Android, including me.
    2. The fact you Apple trolls claimed anything it, is meaningless
    because nobody believes a word you Apple trolls ever say.
    3. When I tested it, I was the only one who proved it worked.
    You Apple trolls are so stupid, you didn't even know how to prove it.

    I wrote up a detailed tutorial which, clearly, none of you Apple trolls understood because you're still obviously clueless about how it works.

    Why do you claim that iOS is less secure than Android? Not true.

    Perfect. Now find a single reputable security professional who agrees with
    you. Find just One.

    I repeat: The fact you Apple trolls believe this, without a single
    professional security researcher that backs it up, is the whole point of
    this thread.

    Nobody but you Apple trolls owns this belief system that not a single
    reputable security professional has ever said, nor will they ever say it.


    Why do you claim that "Apple Plead Guilty" to something in France? Not true.

    That statement is, yet again, perfect proof that you Apple trolls are so incredibly of low IQ that you don't know what it means that Apple paid the
    2020 French prosecutor's 25 million euro fine.

    The French consumer watchdog DGCCRF (part of the Ministry of Economy)
    concluded that Apple misled consumers by secretly throttling iPhone
    performance without informing them, which violated French law against
    deceptive commercial practices and planned obsolescence.

    To that most of you Apple trolls say Apple is so rich that Apple can break
    the law any time Apple wants to break the law because you Apple trolls have always said Apple is above the law given how much money Apple has.

    The facts are as follows but this is too complicated for Apple trolls...

    1. The French consumer group Halte a l'obsolescence programmee(HOP) filed a complaint in 2017, stating Apple's actions amounted to planned obsolescence
    by Apple clearly deliberately reducing product lifespan to push upgrades.

    2. The DGCCRF launched a criminal probe in 2018 under France's 2015 law
    banning planned obsolescence.

    3. In February 2020, Apple agreed to pay 25 million euros and publish a
    notice on its French website for one month acknowledging the fine.

    4. This is and was treated as a criminal case under French law, not just an administrative fine. Planned obsolescence is a criminal offense in France, punishable by fines and even imprisonment for company executives.

    Always remember there is no company more sleazy than Apple is.

    In the USA, it's not a criminal fine to fuck your customers like Apple did,
    so Apple got away with paying a half a billion dollar court case penalty.

    No company on earth fucks their loyal customers more than Apple does.
    Who else pays half a billion dollars, for example, for fucking them?

    Why do you claim that "Even if only 1 line of code was changed, Apple sends out the ENTIRE iOS as an update"? Never true. iOS, being Unix, is not monolithic.

    Again, you Apple trolls know absolutely nothing about Apple releases.
    Until RSRs (in iOS 16), changing one character in one line of code
    necessitated an entire monolithic Apple iOS release.

    Only you Apple trolls claim otherwise, as even Apple doesn't back you up.

    Until iOS 16 RSRs, Apple had no concept of a modern patch mechanism.
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201224>
    <https://support.apple.com/en-ph/guide/security/sec87fc038c2/web>

    How backward is that.

    Why do you claim that iPhones are less efficient than Android, even though iPhones run longer using smaller batteries than Android phones?

    The EU proved all iPhones sold up until THIS YEAR were far less efficient
    than Androids in the same category, although the fact remains that only
    Apple couldn't possibly garner an A in efficiency when every Android brand
    sold in the EU had at least 1 model with an A in efficiency.

    Only Apple's efficiency sucked so bad that they didn't have a single model.



    Why do you claim that iPhone owners are just "following the herd"? If we were
    "following the herd", we would be using Android phones. The "herd" IS the majority. Not the minority.

    Every time Apple has a good quarter, you Apple herd animals gloat.
    You'll never see any adult operating system owner do that.

    Only Apple owners gloat over Apple profits.
    People on the adult operating system newsgroups never gloat like you do.


    On what basis do you claim to know the education status of the users of ANY product?

    The very fact you make claims you can't back up shows you own a low IQ.


    Why do you claim that people can be "tracked" by - of all things - a router????

    Because they can, and all security researchers who wrote about it agree.
    Why can't you find a single security researcher who backs your claims?

    Why do you claim that people who don't believe all of the above are stupid?

    Apple trolls claim that a megabitpersecond is the same as a decibel.
    Who is that stupid?

    Only you Apple trolls are that stupid.
    All you Apple trolls have been told your entire lives that you're stupid.

    I'm just repeating what everyone else already knows about you.

    Of course, WE all know the answer. We are just waiting for you to get a clue.

    Heh heh heh...

    Why is it that you Apple trolls can NEVER find even a single reputable professional who backs up any of your claims? (It's due to your low IQ.)

    Everything you spout - only you Apple trolls spout it.
    Nobody who is an adult would say any of what you say.

    It's what makes you Apple trolls, Apple trolls.
    Alan Baker (literally owns the IQ of about 40, i.e., a retarded person)
    Alan Browne (desperately believes everything Apple tells him)
    Chris (may actually own rudimentary critical-thinking skills)
    Haemactylus (sometimes he can think, but often he can't)
    -hh (also shows he owns at least rudimentary cognitive skills)
    Jeorg Lorenz (feels the need to respond to everything, with nothing)
    JF Mezei (desperately defends Apple to the death, no matter what)
    Jolly Roger (he's the most interesting canonical Apple owner of all)
    Lewis (similar to Jolly Roger but not as stupid as Jolly Roger is)
    nospam (almost seems he's paid to defend Apple to the death)
    Tom Elam (thinks he knows something - but turns out he knows nothing)
    Tyrone (actually knows Windows networking - but nothing about Apple)
    Your Name (thinks he's a genius for figuring out what is never hidden)
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed Dec 10 21:29:27 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-12-10 21:26, Marian wrote:
    Tyrone wrote:
    Why do Apple trolls espouse opinions that NOBODY else in the world would >>> agree with?

    Good question.

    The main reason Apple trolls can't ever back up their claims about Apple
    can do no wrong, is that nobody but the Apple trolls believes their claim.

    Straw man.


    We are always wondering why you - since you are the only Apple Troll
    here -
    spout your opinions as facts. Or spout absurd lies as facts. All of
    which are
    exposed/debunked by the links that YOU provide.

    Why DO you do that?

    I have always told you Apple trolls I have two goals on this newsgroup.
    Why can't you Apple trolls understand the simplest of concepts?


    Why do you claim that iPhones can't be used as an SMB server?    Not
    true.

    It's not surprising you Apple trolls lack the IQ to figure out what
    happened. You're actually too stupid to understand what was said many
    times.

    1. The fact that iOS apps can use privileged ports was a shock to everyone
      who knows anything about Linux and Android, including me.
    2. The fact you Apple trolls claimed anything it, is meaningless
      because nobody believes a word you Apple trolls ever say.
    3. When I tested it, I was the only one who proved it worked.
      You Apple trolls are so stupid, you didn't even know how to prove it.

    You're lying.

    You were TOLD how it worked.
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  • From Marian@marianjones@helpfulpeople.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed Dec 10 22:35:21 2025
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    Tyrone wrote:
    This was a couple years ago. His claim was that Apple "plead guilty" in court in France to something. I forget what the specific charge was. Nevermind that COMPANIES don't plead guilty. It would be some person(s) at the company pleading (or being found) guilty of whatever.

    He of course provided a link to the story. Which OF COURSE he did not read. The link clearly stated that France OFFERED TO SETTLE out of court. Apple of course accepted and paid a small fine. When settling out of court, no one is EVER found guilty (let alone PLEAD guilty) of anything because there is no adjudication by the court.

    Needless to say, when the plaintiff (France in this case) offers to settle, it
    means they know they have no case and are - in fact - just looking for a pay day. So AGAIN, this claim was total bullshit.

    The French Batterygate case was criminal, unique in Europe because France
    has a specific law against planned obsolescence. Apple lost the case, paid
    25M euros, and was forced to publicly acknowledge it on its French website.

    1. The French consumer group Halte a l'obsolescence programmee(HOP) filed a complaint in 2017, stating Apple's actions amounted to planned obsolescence
    by Apple clearly deliberately reducing product lifespan to push upgrades.

    2. The DGCCRF launched a criminal probe in 2018 under France's 2015 law
    banning planned obsolescence.

    3. In February 2020, Apple agreed to pay 25 million euros and publish a
    notice on its French website for one month acknowledging the fine.

    4. This is and was treated as a criminal case under French law, not just an administrative fine. Planned obsolescence is a criminal offense in France, punishable by fines and even imprisonment for company executives.

    Always remember there is no company more sleazy than Apple proves to be.
    Apple will fuck the customer up the ass and laugh by only paying the fine.

    Hell, Apple paid half a billion dollars for the same battery-gate issue in
    the USA and all you Apple trolls scoffed at the fine and yet, you can't
    find a single US company who has paid a bigger fine than Apple for that
    same thing.


    Why do you claim that "Even if only 1 line of code was changed, Apple sends >>> out the ENTIRE iOS as an update"? Never true. iOS, being Unix, is not
    monolithic.

    He does not know files can be updated?

    He does not know ANYTHING about iOS/iPadOS. If he had a single iPhone/iPad, he
    would know that many .1/.1.1/.2.1/.whatever updates can be 50MB/100MB/500MB.
    Full version upgrades are around 5GB or more. OBVIOUSLY, the entire iOS/iPadOS is NOT sent for every update. More total bullshit.

    Heh heh heh... This yet again proves all you Apple trolls have a low IQ.
    You have absolutely no idea what an RSR is, do you?

    Tell us, Tyrone, what's an RSR?

    Here', I'll help you:
    <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201224>
    <https://support.apple.com/en-ph/guide/security/sec87fc038c2/web>

    Now, Tyrone, tell us what an RSR is, and tell us how it differs from a fix
    of even a single line of code prior to iOS 16's RSR mechanism being
    released.

    Tell us Tyrone.
    Let's see if your IQ is higher than about 50, Tyrone.

    C'mon. Tell us what the RSR is & hgw it's different in iOS below 16.

    I went to the store today. Turned around and my router was right there!
    Following me. Reporting what isle I was on to BIG BROTHER!

    LOL, yeah man. Because since Big Brother needs to know where you are at all times, your router is obviously the best way to do that.

    The fact you can't understand the GPS is tied to the router BSSID is clear.
    All you Apple trolls defend Apple to the death, no matter what.
    You use the first excuse that comes to your mind.

    Since your IQ is so low, your excuse is absurd.

    Of course, WE all know the answer. We are just waiting for you to get a clue.

    He won't.

    Obviously. He has been posting total bullshit for about 5 years. The very definition of Troll.

    For all you Apple trolls, you've been told you're stupid your entire lives.
    Not one of you was admitted to college for that reason. You lack normal IQ.

    The fact you can't understand anything is proof of what I have learned.
    Alan Baker (literally owns the IQ of about 40, i.e., a retarded person)
    Alan Browne (desperately believes everything Apple tells him)
    Chris (may actually own rudimentary critical-thinking skills)
    Haemactylus (sometimes he can think, but often he can't)
    -hh (also shows he owns at least rudimentary cognitive skills)
    Jeorg Lorenz (feels the need to respond to everything, with nothing)
    JF Mezei (desperately defends Apple to the death, no matter what)
    Jolly Roger (he's the most interesting canonical Apple owner of all)
    Lewis (similar to Jolly Roger but not as stupid as Jolly Roger is)
    nospam (almost seems he's paid to defend Apple to the death)
    Tom Elam (thinks he knows something - but turns out he knows nothing)
    Tyrone (actually knows Windows networking - but nothing about Apple)
    Your Name (thinks he's a genius for figuring out what is never hidden)

    IQ Distribution (Bell Curve)

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    <20 50 70 100 130 160+
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Wed Dec 10 22:02:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-12-10 21:35, Marian wrote:
    Tyrone wrote:
    This was a couple years ago. His claim was that Apple "plead
    guilty" in court in France to something. I forget what the
    specific charge was. Nevermind that COMPANIES don't plead guilty.
    It would be some person(s) at the company pleading (or being
    found) guilty of whatever. He of course provided a link to the
    story. Which OF COURSE he did not read. The link clearly stated
    that France OFFERED TO SETTLE out of court. Apple of course
    accepted and paid a small fine. When settling out of court, no
    one is EVER found guilty (let alone PLEAD guilty) of anything
    because there is no adjudication by the court. Needless to say,
    when the plaintiff (France in this case) offers to settle, it
    means they know they have no case and are - in fact - just looking
    for a pay day. So AGAIN, this claim was total bullshit.

    The French Batterygate case was criminal, unique in Europe because
    France has a specific law against planned obsolescence. Apple lost
    the case, paid 25M euros, and was forced to publicly acknowledge it
    on its French website.

    Why must you lie?

    The case never went to trial, so Apple never lost.
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Dec 11 15:38:06 2025
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    On Dec 10, 2025 at 10:26:00 PM MST, "Tyrone" wrote <j5ecnZCWJp51yKf0nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@supernews.com>:

    On Dec 10, 2025 at 7:17:47 PM EST, "Brock McNuggets" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Dec 10, 2025 at 3:09:54 PM MST, "Tyrone" wrote
    <_bKdnWLRWtYvcqT0nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@supernews.com>:

    On Dec 10, 2025 at 4:26:23 PM EST, "Marian" <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com>
    wrote:


    Why do Apple trolls espouse opinions that NOBODY else in the world would >>>> agree with?

    Good question.

    We are always wondering why you - since you are the only Apple Troll here - >>> spout your opinions as facts. Or spout absurd lies as facts. All of which are
    exposed/debunked by the links that YOU provide.

    Why DO you do that?

    Why do you claim that iPhones can't be used as an SMB server? Not true. >>
    As you demonstrated.

    Why do you claim that iOS is less secure than Android? Not true.

    As many have noted and I showed MASSIVE support for in terms of research. >>>
    Why do you claim that "Apple Plead Guilty" to something in France? Not true.

    I do not even know what he is claiming.

    This was a couple years ago. His claim was that Apple "plead guilty" in court in France to something. I forget what the specific charge was. Nevermind that COMPANIES don't plead guilty. It would be some person(s) at the company pleading (or being found) guilty of whatever.

    He of course provided a link to the story. Which OF COURSE he did not read. The link clearly stated that France OFFERED TO SETTLE out of court. Apple of course accepted and paid a small fine. When settling out of court, no one is EVER found guilty (let alone PLEAD guilty) of anything because there is no adjudication by the court.

    Thanks.

    Needless to say, when the plaintiff (France in this case) offers to settle, it
    means they know they have no case and are - in fact - just looking for a pay day. So AGAIN, this claim was total bullshit.

    He twists everything to be anti-Apple.


    Why do you claim that "Even if only 1 line of code was changed, Apple sends >>> out the ENTIRE iOS as an update"? Never true. iOS, being Unix, is not
    monolithic.

    He does not know files can be updated?

    He does not know ANYTHING about iOS/iPadOS. If he had a single iPhone/iPad, he
    would know that many .1/.1.1/.2.1/.whatever updates can be 50MB/100MB/500MB.
    Full version upgrades are around 5GB or more. OBVIOUSLY, the entire iOS/iPadOS is NOT sent for every update. More total bullshit.

    Absolutely. Apple updated individual files as needed.


    Why do you claim that iPhones are less efficient than Android, even though >>> iPhones run longer using smaller batteries than Android phones?

    Why do you claim that iPhone owners are just "following the herd"? If we were
    "following the herd", we would be using Android phones. The "herd" IS the >>> majority. Not the minority.

    Fair.

    On what basis do you claim to know the education status of the users of ANY >>> product?

    Pure emotion.

    Why do you claim that people can be "tracked" by - of all things - a
    router????

    I went to the store today. Turned around and my router was right there!
    Following me. Reporting what isle I was on to BIG BROTHER!

    LOL, yeah man. Because since Big Brother needs to know where you are at all times, your router is obviously the best way to do that.

    My router also edited my text to say "isle" instead of "aisle". They're is
    know chance eye wood make such an err, eye am to well educated.




    Why do you claim that people who don't believe all of the above are stupid? >>>
    Of course, WE all know the answer. We are just waiting for you to get a clue.

    He won't.

    Obviously. He has been posting total bullshit for about 5 years. The very definition of Troll.

    He gets what he wants -- attention.
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Dec 11 16:09:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2025-12-11, Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> wrote:
    Tyrone wrote:

    Why do you claim that iPhones can't be used as an SMB server? Not true.

    It's not surprising you Apple trolls lack the IQ to figure out what
    happened. You're actually too stupid to understand what was said many
    times.

    1. The fact that iOS apps can use privileged ports was a shock to everyone
    who knows anything about Linux and Android, including me.

    Nah, just you. The rest of us knew this was the case. You are the one
    who argued with and insulted every single person who corrected your
    bullshit lie - just like you are doing here.

    2. The fact you Apple trolls claimed anything it, is meaningless
    because nobody believes a word you Apple trolls ever say.

    If it was "meaningless" you wouldn't be so upset that we made your weak
    lie obvious. The FACT is iOS CAN indeed run SMB servers on the default
    port - something you claimed is supposedly impossible. And you HATE facts.

    3. When I tested it, I was the only one who proved it worked.
    You Apple trolls are so stupid, you didn't even know how to prove it.

    Another lie. Lies and schoolyard insults are literally all you have.
    You're fucking pathetic.

    I wrote up a detailed tutorial which, clearly, none of you Apple trolls understood because you're still obviously clueless about how it works.

    Pure projection. 🤣
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    JR
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  • From Marian@marianjones@helpfulpeople.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Thu Dec 11 19:00:03 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Jolly Roger wrote:
    1. The fact that iOS apps can use privileged ports was a shock to everyone >> who knows anything about Linux and Android, including me.

    Nah, just you. The rest of us knew this was the case. You are the one
    who argued with and insulted every single person who corrected your
    bullshit lie - just like you are doing here.

    You claimed for years, Jolly Roger, that a decibel and a megabitpersecond
    were the same thing, so you have no credibility with the adults here.
    *It's a fact iOS devices can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength over time*
    <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/PZuec56EWB0>
    <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0>

    You claimed many times many things that you simply fabricated that I
    stopped bothering disproving your claims, much as David Empson did also.

    You recently claimed, for example, that you can "back up" your IPAs on your
    iOS devices WITHOUT going to the App Store to get the latest copy, JR.

    Who is *that* stupid as to make such a claim.
    Only you Apple trolls do that.

    So you "saying" that iOS can do something isn't proving anything.
    In fact, I'm the only one who understood how to prove it.

    Not you low IQ Apple trolls.
    None of you low IQ Apple trolls owns the intelligence to prove anything.


    2. The fact you Apple trolls claimed anything it, is meaningless
    because nobody believes a word you Apple trolls ever say.

    If it was "meaningless" you wouldn't be so upset that we made your weak
    lie obvious. The FACT is iOS CAN indeed run SMB servers on the default
    port - something you claimed is supposedly impossible. And you HATE facts.

    Heh heh heh... And yet I'm the only one who proved it.

    You Apple trolls had no idea how to prove which port it was using.


    3. When I tested it, I was the only one who proved it worked.
    You Apple trolls are so stupid, you didn't even know how to prove it.

    Another lie. Lies and schoolyard insults are literally all you have.
    You're fucking pathetic.

    And yet, the point remains that you Apple trolls can't ever back up your claims, such as the claim that iOS can graph all Wi-Fi access points in the vicinity over time (where you claimed many times that it can be done).

    Look at this Snit video, which proves all you Apple trolls have a low IQ:
    *Snit video purportedly detailing iOS showing Wi-Fi dBm over time*
    <https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo>

    I wrote up a detailed tutorial which, clearly, none of you Apple trolls
    understood because you're still obviously clueless about how it works.

    Pure projection.

    What happened, which you Apple trolls gloat over even as it proves you all
    own a substandard IQ is the following...

    1. You made the claim
    2. Nobody believed your claim
    3. Why not? Because you made many claims that are false.

    Worse, you couldn't even prove that it worked.
    I had to do that for you.

    You're all too stupid to figure out what port it used, for example.

    The point remains that the Apple trolls are strange low IQ people who can
    never back up their claims with actual security researcher references.



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  • From Marian@marianjones@helpfulpeople.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Dec 12 09:58:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Chris wrote:
    Why is your ego so fragile you need to make this type of stuff up?

    You're the one claiming a BSSID:GPS pair is "just a number", Chris.
    Why is it your claim has exactly zero security researchers backing it up?

    What's so strange about you Apple trolls that you hold a belief system that nobody on the planet (other than Alan Baker & Snit) agree with, Chris?

    I get it you're desperate to find an excuse to defend Apple to the death.
    But at least find one security researcher who agrees with yopu that a
    BSSID:GPS pair is "just a number", or, stop saying it.

    If you keep repeating it, even as you can't find a single security
    researcher who agrees with you, then either it's your IQ or you're trolling (Which it is is hard to tell when you're dealing with you Apple trolls).
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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Fri Dec 12 20:31:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Dec 12, 2025 at 9:58:13 AM MST, "Marian" wrote <10hhhj5$1viq$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

    Chris wrote:
    Why is your ego so fragile you need to make this type of stuff up?

    You're the one claiming a BSSID:GPS pair is "just a number", Chris.
    Why is it your claim has exactly zero security researchers backing it up?

    What's so strange about you Apple trolls that you hold a belief system that nobody on the planet (other than Alan Baker & Snit) agree with, Chris?

    I get it you're desperate to find an excuse to defend Apple to the death.
    But at least find one security researcher who agrees with yopu that a BSSID:GPS pair is "just a number", or, stop saying it.

    If you keep repeating it, even as you can't find a single security
    researcher who agrees with you, then either it's your IQ or you're trolling (Which it is is hard to tell when you're dealing with you Apple trolls).

    Your posts lacks substance. Can you do better next time?
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  • From Marian@marianjones@helpfulpeople.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Dec 12 19:49:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    In another thread today, an Apple troll deprecated this tutorial:
    From: Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.microsoft.windows
    Subject: Tutorial: Notepad++ shortcuts.xml macro converts unicode to the 95-keyboard ASCII characters
    Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 09:42:48 -0700
    Message-ID: <10hesa9$2q1m$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

    What's revealing the Apple troll who deprecated that tutorial clearly has
    no idea whatsover what Notepad++ is nor any idea of what Notepad++ does.

    Who is *that* opinionated when they're also *that* ignorant?
    Nobody, right?

    But the Apple troll (who didn't understand a single word in the tutorial)
    felt empowered to deprecate the tutorial even as he didn't understand a
    word of that tutorial.

    Who does that?
    More to the point, what kind of rather strange person does that?

    1. Chris knows NOTHING about Notepad++ nor about file conversion.
    2. Yet, Chris called me a "Trump supporter" for that tutorial?

    WTF?

    Everything about these strange Apple trolls is bewildering.
    Who does what Chris just did?

    Is it that he's just stupid?
    Maybe.

    But given he knows absolutely nothing about Notepad++ file conversion, what makes this particular Apple troll so confident in calling it a Trump
    tutorial?

    Where did Trump come from in this Apple troll's mind?
    What does file conversion have to do with Trump anyway?

    I've never met people this stupid in my entire life.

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  • From Marian@marianjones@helpfulpeople.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Dec 12 20:09:14 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    In this thread, just now, an Apple troll claimed that if I don't write a
    script to track billions of people from the Apple WPS data, then it can't
    be done by anyone.

    From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.mobile.android,alt.internet.wireless
    Subject: Re: Discussion: How to set up your mobile devices & home router for privacy/security
    Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 08:29:53 -0000 (UTC)Lines: 147
    Message-ID: <10hdve0$231qa$1@dont-email.me>

    WTF?

    What kind of strange person makes an asinine idiotically nonsensical
    illogical claim that if I don't track people, then nobody can do it?
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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Dec 13 09:16:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> wrote:
    In another thread today, an Apple troll deprecated this tutorial:
    From: Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.microsoft.windows
    Subject: Tutorial: Notepad++ shortcuts.xml macro converts unicode to the 95-keyboard ASCII characters
    Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 09:42:48 -0700
    Message-ID: <10hesa9$2q1m$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

    What's revealing the Apple troll who deprecated that tutorial clearly has
    no idea whatsover what Notepad++ is nor any idea of what Notepad++ does.

    Who is *that* opinionated when they're also *that* ignorant?
    Nobody, right?

    But the Apple troll (who didn't understand a single word in the tutorial) felt empowered to deprecate the tutorial even as he didn't understand a
    word of that tutorial.

    Who does that?
    More to the point, what kind of rather strange person does that?

    1. Chris knows NOTHING about Notepad++ nor about file conversion.
    2. Yet, Chris called me a "Trump supporter" for that tutorial?

    WTF?

    Aww, is Donald a little butt-hurt?

    It's a bit sad that someone who claims to be so much more intelligent than everyone else can't tell the difference between being *compared* to someone
    and being a *supporter* of that person.

    Everything about these strange Apple trolls is bewildering.
    Who does what Chris just did?

    Is it that he's just stupid?
    Maybe.

    But given he knows absolutely nothing about Notepad++ file conversion, what makes this particular Apple troll so confident in calling it a Trump tutorial?

    Where did Trump come from in this Apple troll's mind?
    What does file conversion have to do with Trump anyway?

    Given your memory is excellent (™), you should remember I prefer to call
    you Donald, in support of privacy wishes, simply to reflect your
    personality traits. You're vain, you make impossibly grandiose statements,
    you have no facts, you only have opinion, you deflect rather then answer,
    you like calling people names to diminish them, you constantly appeal to authority, and you're extremely thin skinned.





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  • From Marian@marianjones@helpfulpeople.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Dec 15 05:16:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Jolly Roger wrote:
    And many of those are just thinly-disguised trolls.

    And yet, all you Apple trolls claimed what I did below, was impossible!
    <https://i.postimg.cc/43ysV3Mr/fermium.jpg>

    It's telling what I consider "trivial", you Apple trolls call "impossible".

    If we want a radial expansion crawler for Apple's WPS database, do this:
    1. Choose any arbitrary Netgear (00:22:3f) BSSID (e.g., 00:22:3f:a5:7b:33)
    2. Get the whole cluster of 400 BSSID pairs from Apple
    python.exe apple_bssid_locator.py 00:22:3f:a5:7b:33 --all
    3. This outputs up to 400 BSSID:GPS pairs near it in the Apple WPS DB
    (see results.txt below)

    Then any BSSID in that cluster (e.g., 34:08:04:cb:b2:a4, D-Link)
    And do it again.

    Choose another BSSID (e.g., 00:23:aa:d9:6b:ca from HFR, Inc.)
    Get another 400.

    Keep repeating (e.g., 28:4E:E9:3F:5F:9F from Mercury Corp.)
    Easily anyone can garner billions of BSSID:AP pairs from Apple's WPS.

    Then all you need to do is track them, en masse.
    If I can do this so easily, anyone can.

    I plotted them using AppleLocator & Fermium open source software.
    python.exe bssidplot.py

    Here is a screenshot of the location of those 400 BSSID:GPS pairs:
    <https://i.postimg.cc/43ysV3Mr/fermium.jpg>

    Here's just the first 400 found, so you can see the BSSID:GPS pairs.
    1 00:22:3f:a5:7b:33 35.29422378 126.77641296
    2 10:62:e5:b1:8f:12 35.29444885 126.77671051
    3 12:09:a5:53:df:13 35.29491043 126.77599334
    4 28:6d:97:4f:be:d0 35.29439163 126.77655029
    5 28:6d:97:b9:89:96 35.29463195 126.77554321000001
    6 42:09:a5:53:df:13 35.294940940000004 126.7760086
    7 04:09:a5:53:df:13 35.29491043 126.77601623
    8 50:46:ae:f2:9b:15 35.29492568 126.77648162
    9 58:86:94:51:6b:0e 35.2944374 126.77667999
    10 88:36:6c:06:65:38 35.29442214 126.77668762
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    13 b0:38:6c:75:10:7e 35.29403686 126.77572631
    14 28:6d:97:c8:5a:30 35.2948265 126.77577972
    15 70:2c:1f:66:28:49 35.29447174 126.77656555
    16 70:2c:1f:66:08:0d 35.2939682 126.77562713
    17 70:5d:cc:1e:34:6c 35.29422378 126.77565765
    18 70:2c:1f:85:d7:cd 35.29440307 126.7756195
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    34 e0:4f:43:a8:56:13 35.29393768 126.77700042000001
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    44 12:96:cd:82:58:bb 35.2938919 126.77524566
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    46 12:09:a5:26:14:df 35.29400253 126.77489471
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    48 12:09:a5:47:38:27 35.2939186 126.77476501
    49 12:f4:5e:24:59:0b 35.29406738 126.77428436
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    51 18:c5:01:8b:f0:ce 35.29394531 126.77485656
    52 18:c5:01:9c:33:b2 35.29389572 126.77508544
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    55 26:e8:53:a0:7d:87 35.29396438 126.77490997
    56 28:4e:e9:1e:da:cd 35.29407501 126.77472686
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    59 28:6d:97:b8:24:44 35.29405212 126.77482604000001
    60 28:6d:97:ca:55:74 35.293853750000004 126.77509307
    61 28:6d:97:fb:b4:7f 35.29400634 126.77506256000001
    62 28:6d:97:fd:be:af 35.293952940000004 126.77492523000001
    63 2e:2b:f9:47:2e:0b 35.29449081 126.77493286
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    66 34:08:04:cb:b2:a4 35.29445648 126.77491760000001
    67 38:f4:5e:24:59:0b 35.2940483 126.7743225
    68 40:ca:63:38:79:57 35.294651030000004 126.7744522
    69 40:ca:63:a6:95:21 35.29398727 126.77502441
    70 40:ca:63:c9:8d:90 35.29455947 126.77455902
    71 40:ca:63:fb:52:c7 35.29405212 126.77509307
    72 42:23:aa:91:74:ae 35.29395675 126.7747879
    73 42:23:aa:d5:31:e6 35.29402923 126.77478027000001
    74 42:23:aa:d9:6b:ca 35.29397964 126.77489471
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    It's trivial for anyone to imagine we can do this forever
    until we have every AP listed that is in Apple's WPS database.
    --
    I am not here for my ego; nor for my amusement; but to teach & learn.


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  • From Brock McNuggets@brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone on Mon Dec 15 16:04:51 2025
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    On Dec 15, 2025 at 5:16:58 AM MST, "Marian" wrote <10hou7q$g69$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>:

    Jolly Roger wrote:
    And many of those are just thinly-disguised trolls.

    And yet, all you Apple trolls claimed what I did below, was impossible!
    <https://i.postimg.cc/43ysV3Mr/fermium.jpg>

    Cite when this was said.

    It's telling what I consider "trivial", you Apple trolls call "impossible".

    Who said that?

    ...
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  • From Marian@marianjones@helpfulpeople.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Dec 15 12:44:27 2025
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    Chris wrote:
    It's telling what I consider "trivial", you Apple trolls call "impossible".

    Why do you have to lie?

    The question is why do you Apple trolls, in your attempt to defend Apple to
    the death, no matter what, espouse opinions that NOBODY else in the world
    would agree with?

    You repeatedly claimed it was not a trivial exercise to track the BSSID:GPS movements where I just wrote this code to track the first 400 I obtained.

    @echo off
    :: This is C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\bssidcompare.bat
    :: v1p0 20251215
    :: Outputs if there is movecment for any given BSSID in results.txt

    setlocal enabledelayedexpansion

    :: Threshold for movement (where 0.001 degrees is roughly 100 kilometers)
    set THRESH=0.001

    :: Input file collected using apple_bssid_locator open source code
    :: These are actual BSSID:GPS pairs which you can test yourself!
    :: 28:6d:97:c8:5a:30 35.2948265 126.77577972
    :: 00:22:3f:a5:7b:33 35.29422378 126.77641296
    :: 10:62:e5:b1:8f:12 35.29444885 126.77671051
    :: 12:09:a5:53:df:13 35.29491043 126.77599334
    :: 28:6d:97:4f:be:d0 35.29439163 126.77655029
    :: 28:6d:97:b9:89:96 35.29463195 126.77554321000001
    :: 42:09:a5:53:df:13 35.294940940000004 126.7760086

    set INFILE=results.txt

    echo Checking for GPS movement greater than %THRESH% degrees...
    echo.

    :: Loop through each line of results.txt
    for /f "tokens=1,2,3 delims= " %%A in (%INFILE%) do (
    set BSSID=%%A
    set LAT=%%B
    set LON=%%C

    :: If we've seen this BSSID before, compare
    if defined lastLAT[!BSSID!] (
    set /a diffLAT=1000000*( !LAT! - !lastLAT[!BSSID!]! )
    set /a diffLON=1000000*( !LON! - !lastLON[!BSSID!]! )

    :: Convert to absolute values
    if !diffLAT! lss 0 set /a diffLAT=-!diffLAT!
    if !diffLON! lss 0 set /a diffLON=-!diffLON!

    :: Compare against threshold (scaled by 1,000,000)
    set /a threshScaled=%THRESH%*1000000
    if !diffLAT! gtr !threshScaled! (
    echo BSSID !BSSID! moved in LAT by more than %THRESH% degrees
    )
    if !diffLON! gtr !threshScaled! (
    echo BSSID !BSSID! moved in LON by more than %THRESH% degrees
    )
    )

    :: Store current coordinates
    set lastLAT[!BSSID!]=!LAT!
    set lastLON[!BSSID!]=!LON!
    )

    echo.
    echo Comparison complete.
    endlocal

    :: end of C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\bssidcompare.bat
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