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Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> wrote:

Alan Browne wrote:

Oh. Also the lat/long pair above is ridiculously high resolution.
(Roughly atomic scale!).

Neglected to add that other formats like MGRS and UTM could be output
from most GPS receivers.

Alan Browne,

I agree with anyone who makes a logically sensible viewpoint, no matter who they are, and I disagree with those who don't, no matter who they are.

You likely know more about GPS than I do, for sure, so I appreciate that information, however, that's EXACTLY the output from Apple's WPS DB. <https://i.postimg.cc/43ysV3Mr/fermium.jpg>

Since you didn't troll, I will treat you as an adult in this post.
I won't disagree with your characterization of decimal GPS accuracy. <https://i.postimg.cc/C5Pcb6RQ/decimal.jpg>

I will simply point out those results came directly from Apple's WPS DB.
<https://github.com/darkosancanin/apple_bssid_locator>
python.exe apple_bssid_locator.py 00:22:3f:a5:7b:33

If you understood the code you'd know that the WPS DB returns the lat/lon
as a 64bit integer and the python script converts into a float with a
simple multiplication of 1e-8. Anything beyond the 8th dp is noise.

So what you claim as being exactly what is in the Apple WPS db is factually incorrect. Yet again.

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On 2025-12-17 02:45, Chris wrote:

If you understood the code you'd know that the WPS DB returns the lat/lon
as a 64bit integer and the python script converts into a float with a
simple multiplication of 1e-8. Anything beyond the 8th dp is noise.

Where a GPS position in Lat/Long (base 10 real*) is concerned, anything
beyond the 5th dp is noise in almost all cases including SBAS aided.**

Even beyond the the 4th dp, it is likely noise in most cases.

If Lat is represented as a fraction of a semi-circle, then a signed 32
bit integer is more than adequate for general purposes.
Likewise Longitude as a fraction of a circle.
(LSB=0.0046...m and 0.0093...m respectively - though you could represent
Lat as a circle as well at the loss of 1 bit of resolution).

*by real I mean number line real, not computer language "real" type.

**(Excluding survey RTK measurements - which are baseline lengths, not
L/L but might be tied to a precise L/L - there 1cm+1mm/km error is common)
--
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the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
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On Dec 17, 2025 at 9:44:13 AM EST, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2025-12-17 02:45, Chris wrote:

If you understood the code you'd know that the WPS DB returns the lat/lon
as a 64bit integer and the python script converts into a float with a
simple multiplication of 1e-8. Anything beyond the 8th dp is noise.

Where a GPS position in Lat/Long (base 10 real*) is concerned, anything beyond the 5th dp is noise in almost all cases including SBAS aided.**

Even beyond the the 4th dp, it is likely noise in most cases.

If Lat is represented as a fraction of a semi-circle, then a signed 32
bit integer is more than adequate for general purposes.
Likewise Longitude as a fraction of a circle.
(LSB=0.0046...m and 0.0093...m respectively - though you could represent
Lat as a circle as well at the loss of 1 bit of resolution).

*by real I mean number line real, not computer language "real" type.

**(Excluding survey RTK measurements - which are baseline lengths, not
L/L but might be tied to a precise L/L - there 1cm+1mm/km error is common)

All of which goes against Arlen's desperate attempts to prove that one can be "tracked by a router". When the reality is that all one can track is the router. Which is meaningless.

In yet another desperate attempt to make Apple "look bad".

Once AGAIN, all he has done is make a fool of himself.

Because Trolls Gotta Troll.
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Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2025-12-17 02:45, Chris wrote:

If you understood the code you'd know that the WPS DB returns the lat/lon
as a 64bit integer and the python script converts into a float with a
simple multiplication of 1e-8. Anything beyond the 8th dp is noise.

Where a GPS position in Lat/Long (base 10 real*) is concerned, anything beyond the 5th dp is noise in almost all cases including SBAS aided.**

Even beyond the the 4th dp, it is likely noise in most cases.

I accept that.

I was trying to explain to Donald that what he believes to be factual
isn't. Simply by reading the scripts and not even needing to understanding
what the variables mean.

If Lat is represented as a fraction of a semi-circle, then a signed 32
bit integer is more than adequate for general purposes.

TBH I was surprised to see it represented as a 64bit int. I believe python stores floats as doubles, hence the meaningless precision in the output.

Likewise Longitude as a fraction of a circle.
(LSB=0.0046...m and 0.0093...m respectively - though you could represent
Lat as a circle as well at the loss of 1 bit of resolution).

*by real I mean number line real, not computer language "real" type.

**(Excluding survey RTK measurements - which are baseline lengths, not
L/L but might be tied to a precise L/L - there 1cm+1mm/km error is common)

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Alan Browne wrote:

Where a GPS position in Lat/Long (base 10 real*) is concerned, anything beyond the 5th dp is noise in almost all cases including SBAS aided.**

Alan Browne understands the GPS system better than I do, so I accept
a priori everything he says about the system coordinates.

All I know is what Apple's insecure WPS database provides when I query it.

This is the exact output from Apple's insecure WPS database when I run a
single query for the AP nearest 4302 Josey Cir, Shreveport, LA 71109.

My bssid.bat reports the nearest 400 APs to that query as below.

C:\> bssid.bat

Enter the BSSID (or q to quit): F4:F2:6D:B6:A6:97
-----------------------------------------------
=== Lookup started at Wed 12/17/2025 3:15:21.02 ===
BSSID: F4:F2:6D:B6:A6:97

Searching for location of bssid: F4:F2:6D:B6:A6:97
Saved 309 entries to results.txt
BSSID: f4:f2:6d:b6:a6:97
Latitude: 32.45974349
Longitude: -93.81695556

BSSID: 18:de:50:5b:14:6c
Latitude: 32.45925521
Longitude: -93.81757354

BSSID: 1a:1e:19:0d:c9:a9
Latitude: 32.45926666
Longitude: -93.8175888

BSSID: 1e:9e:cc:d6:cb:71
Latitude: 32.45985031
Longitude: -93.81725311

BSSID: 1e:9e:cc:d6:cb:76
Latitude: 32.45985031
Longitude: -93.81725311

BSSID: 02:aa:a0:ba:26:e0
Latitude: 32.45988464
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 50:95:51:b5:b6:ae
Latitude: 32.4591217
Longitude: -93.81761169

BSSID: 54:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.45988082
Longitude: -93.81723022

BSSID: 62:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.45986175
Longitude: -93.81723785

BSSID: 06:aa:a0:ba:26:e0
Latitude: 32.45986938
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 6a:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.45987701
Longitude: -93.81723022

BSSID: 6e:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.459846490000004
Longitude: -93.81730651000001

BSSID: 84:eb:3e:f8:36:d3
Latitude: 32.45880508
Longitude: -93.81717681

BSSID: 84:eb:3e:fa:b2:63
Latitude: 32.4595375
Longitude: -93.81742858

BSSID: 84:eb:3f:08:e0:72
Latitude: 32.45973968
Longitude: -93.81745147000001

BSSID: 8c:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.45948791
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 8c:85:80:d1:be:37
Latitude: 32.45985031
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 8e:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.4594841
Longitude: -93.8175888

BSSID: 92:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.4594841
Longitude: -93.81756591

BSSID: 92:95:51:b5:b6:ae
Latitude: 32.45910644
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 96:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.45948791
Longitude: -93.8175888

BSSID: 96:ad:43:e3:f8:a8
Latitude: 32.45892715
Longitude: -93.81752014

BSSID: 9c:34:26:9e:ff:4a
Latitude: 32.45941162
Longitude: -93.8166275

BSSID: 9e:34:26:9e:ff:4a
Latitude: 32.45940017
Longitude: -93.81663513000001

BSSID: ae:4c:a5:65:93:62
Latitude: 32.45982742
Longitude: -93.81752014

BSSID: ae:4c:a5:65:93:67
Latitude: 32.45983505
Longitude: -93.81752014

BSSID: ba:5e:71:08:7c:6c
Latitude: 32.45958709
Longitude: -93.81726837000001

BSSID: ba:5e:71:08:7c:6f
Latitude: 32.45959091
Longitude: -93.81725311

BSSID: bc:9b:68:7e:15:c0
Latitude: 32.45943069
Longitude: -93.817276

BSSID: bc:9b:68:7e:15:c1
Latitude: 32.4594078
Longitude: -93.817276

BSSID: bc:9b:68:7e:15:c3
Latitude: 32.459438320000004
Longitude: -93.817276

BSSID: bc:9b:68:7e:15:c5
Latitude: 32.45941543
Longitude: -93.81728363

BSSID: bc:9b:68:7e:15:c6
Latitude: 32.45944976
Longitude: -93.81729125

BSSID: be:34:26:9e:ff:4a
Latitude: 32.45941925
Longitude: -93.81661987

BSSID: c6:4f:d5:41:a5:59
Latitude: 32.45885467
Longitude: -93.81680297

BSSID: de:34:26:9e:ff:4a
Latitude: 32.4594078
Longitude: -93.81664276000001

BSSID: ec:aa:a0:ba:26:e0
Latitude: 32.45988845
Longitude: -93.8175888

BSSID: fa:aa:a0:ba:26:e0
Latitude: 32.45989227
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 12:3d:0a:47:68:48
Latitude: 32.45932769
Longitude: -93.81684875

BSSID: 3a:1e:19:0d:c9:a9
Latitude: 32.45920944
Longitude: -93.8175888

BSSID: 72:95:51:b5:b6:ae
Latitude: 32.45911026
Longitude: -93.81761932

BSSID: 74:ea:e8:a0:a7:d7
Latitude: 32.45973205
Longitude: -93.81691741

BSSID: 78:d2:94:c9:68:48
Latitude: 32.45880889
Longitude: -93.81738281

BSSID: 82:da:c2:f4:9c:fd
Latitude: 32.45885086
Longitude: -93.81640625

BSSID: 88:ad:43:e3:f8:a8
Latitude: 32.45894241
Longitude: -93.8175354

BSSID: 9e:ad:43:e3:f8:a8
Latitude: 32.45894622
Longitude: -93.8175354

BSSID: a2:ad:43:e3:f8:a8
Latitude: 32.45894622
Longitude: -93.81755065

BSSID: 0a:1e:19:0d:c9:a9
Latitude: 32.45919799
Longitude: -93.81758117

BSSID: c6:4f:d5:41:a5:5e
Latitude: 32.45884704
Longitude: -93.81679534

BSSID: de:72:23:a3:8a:04
Latitude: 32.45986557
Longitude: -93.81764984

BSSID: e6:bf:fa:bb:35:f8
Latitude: 32.45929718
Longitude: -93.81698608

BSSID: e6:bf:fa:bb:35:fb
Latitude: 32.45929718
Longitude: -93.81697845000001

BSSID: 10:93:97:0a:e7:80
Latitude: 32.45983123
Longitude: -93.81554412

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:39
Latitude: 32.45924758
Longitude: -93.81565093

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3a
Latitude: 32.45924377
Longitude: -93.81565856

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3d
Latitude: 32.4592247
Longitude: -93.81564331

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3e
Latitude: 32.45925521
Longitude: -93.81563568

BSSID: 12:36:aa:85:84:c9
Latitude: 32.45958709
Longitude: -93.81570434

BSSID: 18:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
Latitude: 32.45975494
Longitude: -93.81597137

BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:42
Latitude: 32.45950698
Longitude: -93.81557464000001

BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:43
Latitude: 32.45950698
Longitude: -93.81555938

BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:45
Latitude: 32.45949935
Longitude: -93.81555938

BSSID: 36:e6:e6:86:cd:1c
Latitude: 32.45980453
Longitude: -93.81570434

BSSID: 3a:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
Latitude: 32.45976257
Longitude: -93.81599426

BSSID: 5a:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
Latitude: 32.45975112
Longitude: -93.81600189

BSSID: 8c:76:3f:d4:13:8d
Latitude: 32.4597969
Longitude: -93.81586456000001

BSSID: 8c:85:80:e4:35:dd
Latitude: 32.45980834
Longitude: -93.81555938

BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Latitude: 32.45982742
Longitude: -93.81553649

BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Latitude: 32.459030150000004
Longitude: -93.81517791

BSSID: 8e:76:3f:d4:13:8d
Latitude: 32.4597969
Longitude: -93.81587982

BSSID: 94:a6:7e:31:02:35
Latitude: 32.45889282
Longitude: -93.81509399000001

BSSID: 96:76:3f:d4:13:8d
Latitude: 32.45978546
Longitude: -93.81589508

BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Latitude: 32.45982742
Longitude: -93.81553649

BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Latitude: 32.45904922
Longitude: -93.81517791

BSSID: a2:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Latitude: 32.4598236
Longitude: -93.81553649

BSSID: a2:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Latitude: 32.45904159
Longitude: -93.81518554

BSSID: a6:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Latitude: 32.45983123
Longitude: -93.81555175

BSSID: a6:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Latitude: 32.45905303
Longitude: -93.8152008

BSSID: be:61:e9:cd:aa:a8
Latitude: 32.458812710000004
Longitude: -93.81623077

BSSID: ca:3a:6b:db:9b:ba
Latitude: 32.45902252
Longitude: -93.81513977

BSSID: ce:6c:6d:53:02:e5
Latitude: 32.45965194
Longitude: -93.81586456000001

BSSID: d4:6c:6d:53:02:e5
Latitude: 32.45964431
Longitude: -93.81583404

BSSID: d6:6c:6d:53:02:e5
Latitude: 32.45964431
Longitude: -93.81583404

BSSID: da:e3:5e:f7:08:87
Latitude: 32.45980453
Longitude: -93.81556701

BSSID: f8:aa:3f:fe:b2:1e
Latitude: 32.4590187
Longitude: -93.81517791

BSSID: 4e:6b:b8:aa:8c:80
Latitude: 32.45885467
Longitude: -93.81540679

BSSID: 78:b2:13:e7:91:39
Latitude: 32.45882797
Longitude: -93.81607055

BSSID: 1e:30:08:a4:b8:64
Latitude: 32.45988082
Longitude: -93.81547546

BSSID: 9e:b3:f7:21:91:e7
Latitude: 32.459102630000004
Longitude: -93.81617736

BSSID: ce:8b:66:31:a1:df
Latitude: 32.45933151
Longitude: -93.81556701

BSSID: 80:30:dc:c2:05:26
Latitude: 32.45886993
Longitude: -93.81635284000001

BSSID: 6e:29:90:f7:23:74
Latitude: 32.45904159
Longitude: -93.81517028

BSSID: 0c:73:29:ff:29:93
Latitude: 32.45893096
Longitude: -93.81542968000001

BSSID: 7e:27:bc:95:f5:35
Latitude: 32.45974349
Longitude: -93.81566619

BSSID: 54:21:60:82:f9:80
Latitude: 32.45933914
Longitude: -93.81817626

BSSID: 66:c6:d2:a2:ca:41
Latitude: 32.45928955
Longitude: -93.81825256

BSSID: 72:13:01:e1:d9:24
Latitude: 32.45993041
Longitude: -93.81851959000001

BSSID: 82:da:c2:8e:e8:de
Latitude: 32.45935821
Longitude: -93.81826019

BSSID: 86:ea:ed:9d:93:56
Latitude: 32.45885467
Longitude: -93.81848144

BSSID: 88:57:1d:5f:b0:29
Latitude: 32.45927047
Longitude: -93.8179779

BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:3c:c5:a8
Latitude: 32.45972442
Longitude: -93.81800079

BSSID: 8e:49:62:3e:0e:4a
Latitude: 32.45919418
Longitude: -93.81777191

BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:3c:c5:a8
Latitude: 32.45974731
Longitude: -93.81801605

BSSID: a2:0f:6f:3c:c5:a8
Latitude: 32.45973968
Longitude: -93.81801605

BSSID: a6:0f:6f:3c:c5:a8
Latitude: 32.45972442
Longitude: -93.81801605

BSSID: c6:4f:d5:7e:64:69
Latitude: 32.45947647
Longitude: -93.81790924

BSSID: c6:4f:d5:7e:64:6f
Latitude: 32.45946502
Longitude: -93.81789398000001

BSSID: 2e:3f:75:b6:2f:07
Latitude: 32.45936203
Longitude: -93.81813812

BSSID: 82:da:c2:8e:e8:d9
Latitude: 32.459365840000004
Longitude: -93.81826019

BSSID: ae:ae:19:b3:82:47
Latitude: 32.45906448
Longitude: -93.81778717

BSSID: 32:9b:d6:b8:39:e9
Latitude: 32.45936965
Longitude: -93.81829833

BSSID: 70:13:01:ef:d9:23
Latitude: 32.459583280000004
Longitude: -93.81856536000001

BSSID: 70:13:01:ef:d9:26
Latitude: 32.45959091
Longitude: -93.81858062

BSSID: 70:13:01:ef:d9:27
Latitude: 32.45959091
Longitude: -93.81858062

BSSID: 70:13:01:ef:d9:25
Latitude: 32.45958709
Longitude: -93.81858062

BSSID: 50:fd:d5:04:5f:42
Latitude: 32.45814132
Longitude: -93.81715393

BSSID: 62:9c:8e:29:da:30
Latitude: 32.45869445
Longitude: -93.81692504

BSSID: 62:9c:8e:29:da:32
Latitude: 32.45867538
Longitude: -93.81691741

BSSID: 62:9c:8e:29:da:35
Latitude: 32.45868301
Longitude: -93.81696319

BSSID: 72:13:01:28:3a:49
Latitude: 32.4581108
Longitude: -93.81741333000001

BSSID: 72:13:01:28:3a:4a
Latitude: 32.45811462
Longitude: -93.81740570000001

BSSID: 88:ad:43:13:50:e8
Latitude: 32.4581871
Longitude: -93.81671905

BSSID: 96:ad:43:13:50:e8
Latitude: 32.45817947
Longitude: -93.81671905

BSSID: 9c:34:26:19:5d:7c
Latitude: 32.4576683
Longitude: -93.817276

BSSID: 9e:34:26:19:5d:7c
Latitude: 32.45766448
Longitude: -93.81726837000001

BSSID: 9e:ad:43:13:50:e8
Latitude: 32.45819091
Longitude: -93.81671905

BSSID: bc:2e:48:ee:7e:a5
Latitude: 32.45818328
Longitude: -93.81676483

BSSID: be:34:26:19:5d:7c
Latitude: 32.45766448
Longitude: -93.81728363

BSSID: de:2e:48:ee:7e:a5
Latitude: 32.45818328
Longitude: -93.81674957

BSSID: de:34:26:19:5d:7c
Latitude: 32.45765686
Longitude: -93.81728363

BSSID: ee:79:0a:fc:38:85
Latitude: 32.45792388
Longitude: -93.81736755

BSSID: fa:79:0a:fc:38:85
Latitude: 32.45790863
Longitude: -93.81735229

BSSID: fe:2e:48:ee:7e:a5
Latitude: 32.4582138
Longitude: -93.81678771

BSSID: 12:3d:0a:60:d0:1c
Latitude: 32.45816421
Longitude: -93.81655883

BSSID: 18:9c:27:2c:f7:40
Latitude: 32.45811462
Longitude: -93.81652069

BSSID: 1c:e8:9e:86:6f:43
Latitude: 32.45815658
Longitude: -93.81722259

BSSID: 4a:bd:ce:cf:8f:71
Latitude: 32.458641050000004
Longitude: -93.81672668

BSSID: 4a:bd:ce:cf:8f:76
Latitude: 32.45863723
Longitude: -93.81671142

BSSID: 68:3a:48:cd:9b:2a
Latitude: 32.45803451
Longitude: -93.81713867

BSSID: a2:ad:43:13:50:e8
Latitude: 32.45833969
Longitude: -93.8167572

BSSID: a4:11:62:b8:a5:5a
Latitude: 32.45875167
Longitude: -93.81645965

BSSID: a6:53:d2:96:a3:a6
Latitude: 32.45819091
Longitude: -93.81773376

BSSID: d6:53:d2:96:a3:a6
Latitude: 32.45819854
Longitude: -93.81772613

BSSID: 72:c9:4e:2b:23:6b
Latitude: 32.4580574
Longitude: -93.81681823

BSSID: 5c:47:5e:a6:ed:ef
Latitude: 32.4579811
Longitude: -93.81711578000001

BSSID: 10:56:11:6a:80:86
Latitude: 32.46089553
Longitude: -93.81726074000001

BSSID: 10:da:43:3f:a1:0d
Latitude: 32.46057891
Longitude: -93.81767272

BSSID: 1e:9d:72:d4:4c:51
Latitude: 32.46066284
Longitude: -93.81764984

BSSID: 1e:9d:72:d4:4c:54
Latitude: 32.4606781
Longitude: -93.81765747

BSSID: 2c:7e:81:c7:f2:44
Latitude: 32.460353850000004
Longitude: -93.81745910000001

BSSID: 32:56:11:6a:80:86
Latitude: 32.46089172
Longitude: -93.81726837000001

BSSID: 38:17:b1:6e:e1:f6
Latitude: 32.46012115
Longitude: -93.81768035

BSSID: 42:17:b1:6e:e1:f6
Latitude: 32.46009063
Longitude: -93.81764984

BSSID: 4e:7e:81:c7:f2:44
Latitude: 32.46035003
Longitude: -93.81746673

BSSID: 52:56:11:6a:80:86
Latitude: 32.46089935
Longitude: -93.81726074000001

BSSID: 6e:7e:81:c7:f2:44
Latitude: 32.46036911
Longitude: -93.81747436

BSSID: 88:ad:43:58:8b:28
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Longitude: -93.81711578000001

BSSID: 8c:85:80:ba:9f:da
Latitude: 32.460742950000004
Longitude: -93.81735992

BSSID: 96:ad:43:58:8b:28
Latitude: 32.46060943
Longitude: -93.81713104

BSSID: 9e:ad:43:58:8b:28
Latitude: 32.4606018
Longitude: -93.81712341000001

BSSID: a2:ad:43:58:8b:28
Latitude: 32.46061325
Longitude: -93.81712341000001

BSSID: ca:e5:da:d7:c2:44
Latitude: 32.45995712
Longitude: -93.81754302

BSSID: 00:1e:e5:7c:74:93
Latitude: 32.46081161
Longitude: -93.81645965

BSSID: 5c:b0:66:0b:d3:46
Latitude: 32.4608879
Longitude: -93.81703948

BSSID: 7e:b0:66:0b:d3:46
Latitude: 32.46088409
Longitude: -93.81703948

BSSID: 9e:b0:66:0b:d3:46
Latitude: 32.46088409
Longitude: -93.81703948

BSSID: 36:5e:08:70:77:09
Latitude: 32.46072006
Longitude: -93.81699371

BSSID: ce:8b:66:29:32:d4
Latitude: 32.4603157
Longitude: -93.81760406000001

BSSID: c6:50:9c:f9:9c:29
Latitude: 32.46025848
Longitude: -93.81729888

BSSID: c6:50:9c:f9:9c:2a
Latitude: 32.46026992
Longitude: -93.81729125

BSSID: c6:50:9c:f9:9c:2e
Latitude: 32.460254660000004
Longitude: -93.81729888

BSSID: c6:50:9c:f9:9c:2f
Latitude: 32.46035766
Longitude: -93.81731414000001

BSSID: 58:96:71:75:47:18
Latitude: 32.45874404
Longitude: -93.8155899

BSSID: b8:3a:9d:ff:8f:ba
Latitude: 32.45768737
Longitude: -93.81520843

BSSID: ce:6c:6d:bd:5a:e9
Latitude: 32.458641050000004
Longitude: -93.81510925

BSSID: d4:5d:df:38:18:a0
Latitude: 32.45795822
Longitude: -93.81510162000001

BSSID: d4:6c:6d:bd:5a:e9
Latitude: 32.45866012
Longitude: -93.81512451

BSSID: d6:6c:6d:bd:5a:e9
Latitude: 32.458667750000004
Longitude: -93.81512451

BSSID: e2:5d:df:38:18:a0
Latitude: 32.45796966
Longitude: -93.81510925

BSSID: ea:5d:df:38:18:a0
Latitude: 32.45796203
Longitude: -93.81511688

BSSID: ee:5d:df:38:18:a0
Latitude: 32.45796585
Longitude: -93.81511688

BSSID: 12:59:32:bf:8f:69
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Longitude: -93.81599426

BSSID: 34:ea:e7:69:1a:03
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Longitude: -93.81589508

BSSID: b0:7f:b9:01:3b:e3
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Longitude: -93.81630706

BSSID: c8:63:fc:21:48:e6
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Longitude: -93.81589508

BSSID: ce:63:fc:21:48:e6
Latitude: 32.45867156
Longitude: -93.81587982

BSSID: d6:63:fc:21:48:e6
Latitude: 32.45867156
Longitude: -93.81588745

BSSID: da:63:fc:21:48:e6
Latitude: 32.45867156
Longitude: -93.81587219000001

BSSID: 54:e0:19:43:85:8d
Latitude: 32.458667750000004
Longitude: -93.81587219000001

BSSID: 2e:3f:75:35:25:b9
Latitude: 32.45836257
Longitude: -93.8187561

BSSID: 3c:b7:4b:a2:12:74
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Longitude: -93.81846618

BSSID: 3c:b7:4b:a2:12:75
Latitude: 32.45782852
Longitude: -93.81846618

BSSID: 04:17:b6:01:74:91
Latitude: 32.45777511
Longitude: -93.81830596

BSSID: 4c:bc:e9:ae:85:e6
Latitude: 32.458477020000004
Longitude: -93.8188095

BSSID: 54:a6:5c:b0:58:af
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Longitude: -93.81859588

BSSID: 54:a6:5c:b0:58:b4
Latitude: 32.45838546
Longitude: -93.81859588

BSSID: 72:13:01:fd:d6:19
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Longitude: -93.81896972

BSSID: 86:ef:16:b0:c3:44
Latitude: 32.4580307
Longitude: -93.81842803

BSSID: 88:ef:16:b0:c3:44
Latitude: 32.45802688
Longitude: -93.81842041

BSSID: 08:65:f0:85:af:46
Latitude: 32.458133690000004
Longitude: -93.81807708000001

BSSID: 9c:34:26:24:02:fe
Latitude: 32.45853042
Longitude: -93.81868743

BSSID: 9e:ad:43:e2:72:58
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Longitude: -93.81844329

BSSID: a6:36:c7:93:a6:e3
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Longitude: -93.81831359

BSSID: ac:91:9b:d4:bd:30
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Longitude: -93.81910705

BSSID: ae:61:a3:82:38:31
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Longitude: -93.81826782

BSSID: ae:97:cd:1d:65:1d
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Longitude: -93.81831359

BSSID: ae:ae:19:be:75:b9
Latitude: 32.45865631
Longitude: -93.81803894000001

BSSID: be:34:26:24:02:fe
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Longitude: -93.81868743

BSSID: be:d7:d4:c9:42:98
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Longitude: -93.81867218000001

BSSID: c6:50:9c:9d:03:92
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Longitude: -93.81854248

BSSID: dc:eb:69:59:75:17
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Longitude: -93.81905364

BSSID: dc:eb:69:59:75:1a
Latitude: 32.45876693
Longitude: -93.81905364

BSSID: dc:eb:69:59:75:1c
Latitude: 32.458740230000004
Longitude: -93.81904602

BSSID: dc:eb:69:59:75:1d
Latitude: 32.45874404
Longitude: -93.81906127

BSSID: de:34:26:24:02:fe
Latitude: 32.45853424
Longitude: -93.8186798

BSSID: e2:db:d1:ca:98:99
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Longitude: -93.8184967

BSSID: f6:79:0a:5a:0e:aa
Latitude: 32.45858383
Longitude: -93.81819915

BSSID: f8:79:0a:5a:0e:aa
Latitude: 32.45858001
Longitude: -93.81817626

BSSID: 3c:b7:4b:a2:12:6f
Latitude: 32.45782089
Longitude: -93.81845855

BSSID: 3c:b7:4b:a2:12:72
Latitude: 32.45783233
Longitude: -93.81846618

BSSID: 4a:ea:62:bb:12:84
Latitude: 32.45869445
Longitude: -93.81802368

BSSID: 08:65:f0:84:e3:7e
Latitude: 32.45810699
Longitude: -93.81805419

BSSID: 08:65:f0:85:ab:f6
Latitude: 32.45824813
Longitude: -93.81806182

BSSID: 9e:b3:f7:e9:12:d2
Latitude: 32.45869445
Longitude: -93.81893157

BSSID: a6:6a:44:d3:d3:fb
Latitude: 32.45800399
Longitude: -93.81819915

BSSID: b6:53:d2:96:a3:a6
Latitude: 32.45809936
Longitude: -93.81781768

BSSID: be:d7:d4:d1:6d:a5
Latitude: 32.4582138
Longitude: -93.81854248

BSSID: de:cd:2f:94:a1:f3
Latitude: 32.45821762
Longitude: -93.81860351

BSSID: bc:64:4b:13:e5:b4
Latitude: 32.45775985
Longitude: -93.81871795

BSSID: 0e:64:4b:13:e5:b4
Latitude: 32.4577713
Longitude: -93.81870269

BSSID: 6e:29:90:48:48:f8
Latitude: 32.45824813
Longitude: -93.81910705

BSSID: 6e:29:90:44:df:e4
Latitude: 32.45845794
Longitude: -93.81904602

BSSID: 6e:29:90:48:5c:92
Latitude: 32.45841598
Longitude: -93.81911468

BSSID: 10:9a:dd:89:81:75
Latitude: 32.46053314
Longitude: -93.81541442

BSSID: 16:93:7c:21:d8:cd
Latitude: 32.460472100000004
Longitude: -93.81539154000001

BSSID: 1c:93:7c:21:d8:cd
Latitude: 32.46047592
Longitude: -93.81538391000001

BSSID: 1e:51:a4:d5:ad:2e
Latitude: 32.46110534
Longitude: -93.81504821

BSSID: 22:76:13:0c:4a:e6
Latitude: 32.46063232
Longitude: -93.81548309

BSSID: 02:71:47:b8:8e:45
Latitude: 32.46051788
Longitude: -93.81537628

BSSID: 02:a0:0d:cf:38:92
Latitude: 32.46069717
Longitude: -93.81577301

BSSID: 2a:c5:c8:13:e4:09
Latitude: 32.46052169
Longitude: -93.81542205

BSSID: 3a:a0:97:ae:25:b0
Latitude: 32.46107101
Longitude: -93.81588745

BSSID: 42:75:c3:38:ad:5d
Latitude: 32.45996475
Longitude: -93.81601715000001

BSSID: 48:ea:62:19:c1:37
Latitude: 32.46043395
Longitude: -93.81559753

BSSID: 58:07:f8:2c:e9:f4
Latitude: 32.46059417
Longitude: -93.81523895000001

BSSID: 84:eb:3f:39:d3:36
Latitude: 32.460472100000004
Longitude: -93.81536102

BSSID: c0:a0:0d:cf:38:92
Latitude: 32.46071243
Longitude: -93.81578826

BSSID: c2:38:96:68:ab:18
Latitude: 32.46050643
Longitude: -93.81540679

BSSID: e2:a0:0d:cf:38:92
Latitude: 32.46071243
Longitude: -93.81578063

BSSID: e8:97:b8:8e:f4:99
Latitude: 32.4604988
Longitude: -93.81613159

BSSID: 0e:93:7c:21:d8:cd
Latitude: 32.46048355
Longitude: -93.81538391000001

BSSID: f8:a0:97:ae:25:b0
Latitude: 32.46107482
Longitude: -93.8159027

BSSID: 28:6b:b4:e6:5a:6a
Latitude: 32.46052169
Longitude: -93.81571197

BSSID: 42:75:c3:38:ad:59
Latitude: 32.46013259
Longitude: -93.81605529000001

BSSID: 42:75:c3:38:ad:5a
Latitude: 32.46012878
Longitude: -93.81604766

BSSID: 42:75:c3:38:ad:5e
Latitude: 32.46014404
Longitude: -93.81604766

BSSID: 42:75:c3:38:ad:5f
Latitude: 32.46013259
Longitude: -93.81605529000001

BSSID: 54:21:60:82:37:08
Latitude: 32.46048736
Longitude: -93.81610107

BSSID: 8c:61:a3:83:5c:19
Latitude: 32.4610939
Longitude: -93.81595611

BSSID: 8c:85:80:e4:91:ab
Latitude: 32.46012115
Longitude: -93.81610107

BSSID: 90:d0:92:56:be:64
Latitude: 32.46058654
Longitude: -93.81621551

BSSID: a2:ff:70:fe:7b:e8
Latitude: 32.46064376
Longitude: -93.81583404

BSSID: a2:ff:70:fe:7b:ed
Latitude: 32.46063995
Longitude: -93.81584167

BSSID: 0a:05:81:2b:bb:4d
Latitude: 32.4604988
Longitude: -93.81541442

BSSID: ae:61:a3:83:5c:19
Latitude: 32.4610939
Longitude: -93.81596374

BSSID: c2:e5:da:6e:1b:48
Latitude: 32.46081161
Longitude: -93.81608581

BSSID: ce:61:a3:83:5c:19
Latitude: 32.46108627
Longitude: -93.81595611

BSSID: 86:ea:ed:40:1b:57
Latitude: 32.4599533
Longitude: -93.81594848

BSSID: da:a0:11:b9:d5:51
Latitude: 32.46051788
Longitude: -93.81621551

BSSID: 72:13:01:e1:d9:21
Latitude: 32.4601593
Longitude: -93.81848907

BSSID: 72:13:01:e1:d9:22
Latitude: 32.46015167
Longitude: -93.81848907

BSSID: 72:13:01:e1:d9:26
Latitude: 32.46016311
Longitude: -93.81850433

BSSID: 84:eb:3f:39:cb:07
Latitude: 32.46070098
Longitude: -93.81808471000001

BSSID: 84:eb:3f:07:10:ef
Latitude: 32.46009826
Longitude: -93.81835174

BSSID: 8c:61:a3:a1:11:01
Latitude: 32.46061325
Longitude: -93.8179779

BSSID: 8c:76:3f:51:c7:f7
Latitude: 32.46059036
Longitude: -93.81776428

BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:1b:1a:60
Latitude: 32.46043014
Longitude: -93.81858062

BSSID: 8e:49:62:6e:f4:8a
Latitude: 32.46063995
Longitude: -93.81803131

BSSID: 8e:76:3f:51:c7:f7
Latitude: 32.46057891
Longitude: -93.81777954

BSSID: 96:76:3f:51:c7:f7
Latitude: 32.46059417
Longitude: -93.81775665

BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:1b:1a:60
Latitude: 32.46042251
Longitude: -93.81858825

BSSID: a0:68:7e:90:9d:50
Latitude: 32.46071243
Longitude: -93.81809997

BSSID: a2:0f:6f:1b:1a:60
Latitude: 32.460426330000004
Longitude: -93.81858825

BSSID: a6:0f:6f:1b:1a:60
Latitude: 32.46038436
Longitude: -93.81861877

BSSID: cc:58:30:61:e8:27
Latitude: 32.46091461
Longitude: -93.81833648

BSSID: d4:5d:df:e4:38:10
Latitude: 32.46094512
Longitude: -93.81808471000001

BSSID: 18:60:24:d6:92:0f
Latitude: 32.46081161
Longitude: -93.81790161

BSSID: 2a:c5:c8:04:a7:dd
Latitude: 32.46001434
Longitude: -93.81880187

BSSID: 4a:4b:d4:6a:36:fd
Latitude: 32.46064376
Longitude: -93.81900787000001

BSSID: 8e:49:62:f2:22:22
Latitude: 32.460762020000004
Longitude: -93.81889343

BSSID: ae:61:a3:a1:11:01
Latitude: 32.46060943
Longitude: -93.8179779

BSSID: ce:61:a3:a1:11:01
Latitude: 32.46060943
Longitude: -93.8179779

BSSID: d4:5d:df:e8:5b:90
Latitude: 32.46016311
Longitude: -93.81820678

BSSID: e2:5d:df:e8:5b:90
Latitude: 32.46017837
Longitude: -93.81820678

BSSID: ea:01:c7:48:27:3c
Latitude: 32.46076965
Longitude: -93.81806945

BSSID: ea:5d:df:e4:38:10
Latitude: 32.46091842
Longitude: -93.81809234

BSSID: ea:5d:df:e8:5b:90
Latitude: 32.46017074
Longitude: -93.81820678

BSSID: ee:5d:df:e8:5b:90
Latitude: 32.46022033
Longitude: -93.81821441

BSSID: fa:d2:ac:08:fd:ed
Latitude: 32.46027374
Longitude: -93.81826782

BSSID: fc:51:a4:ae:a5:50
Latitude: 32.46082305
Longitude: -93.81792449

BSSID: fe:51:a4:ae:a5:50
Latitude: 32.46081542
Longitude: -93.81790924

BSSID: e2:3e:cb:98:c8:2c
Latitude: 32.46010589
Longitude: -93.81864929

BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65
Latitude: 32.45991134
Longitude: -93.81384277000001

BSSID: 02:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Latitude: 32.458904260000004
Longitude: -93.81495666

BSSID: 06:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Latitude: 32.45891189
Longitude: -93.81496429

BSSID: 72:13:01:01:99:9a
Latitude: 32.45918273
Longitude: -93.81450653

BSSID: 72:13:01:01:99:9d
Latitude: 32.45917892
Longitude: -93.81450653

BSSID: ec:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Latitude: 32.45891189
Longitude: -93.81495666

BSSID: fa:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Latitude: 32.45890808
Longitude: -93.81495666
-----------------------------------------------

I could easily snowball this by taking the farthest BSSID:GPS pair, and
running another query, until I obtained the entire 120GB Apple WPS db.
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Tyrone wrote:

When the reality is that all one can track is the
router. Which is meaningless.

This "router" is located near 4302 Josey Cir, Shreveport, LA 71109.

I can easily track that router, and every router on the planet in Apple's insecure database, no matter where that "router" goes in the world.

If it's trivial for me to do it, rest assured the bad guys are doing it.
@echo off
:: This is C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\bssidcompare.bat
:: v1p0 20251215
:: Outputs if there is movecment for any given BSSID in results.txt

setlocal enabledelayedexpansion

:: Threshold for movement (where 0.001 degrees is roughly 100 kilometers)
set THRESH=0.001

:: Input file collected using apple_bssid_locator open source code
:: These are actual BSSID:GPS pairs which you can test yourself!
:: 28:6d:97:c8:5a:30 35.2948265 126.77577972
:: 00:22:3f:a5:7b:33 35.29422378 126.77641296
:: 10:62:e5:b1:8f:12 35.29444885 126.77671051
:: 12:09:a5:53:df:13 35.29491043 126.77599334
:: 28:6d:97:4f:be:d0 35.29439163 126.77655029
:: 28:6d:97:b9:89:96 35.29463195 126.77554321000001
:: 42:09:a5:53:df:13 35.294940940000004 126.7760086

set INFILE=results.txt

echo Checking for GPS movement greater than %THRESH% degrees...
echo.

:: Loop through each line of results.txt
for /f "tokens=1,2,3 delims= " %%A in (%INFILE%) do (
set BSSID=%%A
set LAT=%%B
set LON=%%C

:: If we've seen this BSSID before, compare
if defined lastLAT[!BSSID!] (
set /a diffLAT=1000000*( !LAT! - !lastLAT[!BSSID!]! )
set /a diffLON=1000000*( !LON! - !lastLON[!BSSID!]! )

:: Convert to absolute values
if !diffLAT! lss 0 set /a diffLAT=-!diffLAT!
if !diffLON! lss 0 set /a diffLON=-!diffLON!

:: Compare against threshold (scaled by 1,000,000)
set /a threshScaled=%THRESH%*1000000
if !diffLAT! gtr !threshScaled! (
echo BSSID !BSSID! moved in LAT by more than %THRESH% degrees
)
if !diffLON! gtr !threshScaled! (
echo BSSID !BSSID! moved in LON by more than %THRESH% degrees
)
)

:: Store current coordinates
set lastLAT[!BSSID!]=!LAT!
set lastLON[!BSSID!]=!LON!
)

echo.
echo Comparison complete.
endlocal

:: end of C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\bssidcompare.bat
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Chris wrote:

Even beyond the the 4th dp, it is likely noise in most cases.

I accept that.

I never disagree with anyone who makes a logically sensible statement.
No matter who they are.

As I stated, and which you disputed, it's trivial for me to query Apple's highly insecure WPS database for any access point MAC in the world.

I proved you dead wrong, Chris.
And I accept that without needing you to apologize for being dead wrong.

As for the GPS decimal places, I make no dispute about the "noise" level.
All I'm showing you is EXACTLY what's in the Apple WPS database, Chris.

Which you can prove easily for yourself, so you can't dispute this fact.

Here are just three outputs from Apple's highly insecure WPS database.
These happen to be in Shreveport but they could be anywhere in the world.

BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65
Latitude: 32.45991134
Longitude: -93.81384277000001

BSSID: 02:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Latitude: 32.458904260000004
Longitude: -93.81495666

BSSID: 06:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Latitude: 32.45891189
Longitude: -93.81496429

Why do you think Apple collects & stores the GPS to so many decimal places?
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Alan Browne wrote:

Where a GPS position in Lat/Long (base 10 real*) is concerned, anything beyond the 5th dp is noise in almost all cases including SBAS aided.**

What we have to ask ourselves then is why Apple stores them this way?

BSSID: 8c:85:80:d1:be:37
Latitude: 32.45985031
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 8e:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.4594841
Longitude: -93.8175888

BSSID: 92:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.4594841
Longitude: -93.81756591

BSSID: 92:95:51:b5:b6:ae
Latitude: 32.45910644
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

Does anyone have any idea why the highly insecure Apple WPS database
contains GPS entries to this illogically numerous set of decimal places?

BSSID: 8c:85:80:d1:be:37
<https://wavedigger.networksurvey.app/?tab=bssid&bssid=8c-85-80-d1-be-37>

BSSID: 8e:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
<https://wavedigger.networksurvey.app/?tab=bssid&bssid=8e-76-3f-f8-5d-cd>

BSSID: 92:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
<https://wavedigger.networksurvey.app/?tab=bssid&bssid=92-76-3f-f8-5d-cd>

BSSID: 92:95:51:b5:b6:ae
<https://wavedigger.networksurvey.app/?tab=bssid&bssid=92-95-51-b5-b6-ae>
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Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> wrote:

Chris wrote:

If you understood the code you'd know that the WPS DB returns the lat/lon
as a 64bit integer and the python script converts into a float with a
simple multiplication of 1e-8. Anything beyond the 8th dp is noise.

So what you claim as being exactly what is in the Apple WPS db is factually >> incorrect. Yet again.

I agree with anyone who states a logically sensible viewpoint, no matter
who they are, & I disagree with those who don't, no matter who they are.

Here is some output from my bssid.bat script which I've provided to you.

BSSID: 6a:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.45987701
Longitude: -93.81723022

BSSID: 6e:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.459846490000004
Longitude: -93.81730651000001

BSSID: 84:eb:3e:f8:36:d3
Latitude: 32.45880508
Longitude: -93.81717681

BSSID: 84:eb:3e:fa:b2:63
Latitude: 32.4595375
Longitude: -93.81742858

BSSID: 84:eb:3f:08:e0:72
Latitude: 32.45973968
Longitude: -93.81745147000001

BSSID: 8c:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.45948791
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 8c:85:80:d1:be:37
Latitude: 32.45985031
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

Why do you think the decimal places are what they are, Chris?

It's literally explained to you above. Floating point values are always an approximation when interpreted in code. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/python/floating-point-error-in-python/

Any novice programmer knows this.

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Marian wrote:

As for the GPS decimal places, I make no dispute about the "noise" level.
All I'm showing you is EXACTLY what's in the Apple WPS database, Chris.

Here is a snippet of the results when looking up a particular BSSID which happens to be located in Chris Hayes Recreation Center in Mooretown Park
in Shreveport, Louisiana, near the Shreveport Regional Airport
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/?api=1&query=32.459904,-93.813843>

bssid.bat

Enter the BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65

You'll get a map of where that AP is in that building, plus a listing
of up to 400 nearby access point locations (which fermium can map en masse).

Enter the BSSID (or q to quit): 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65 -----------------------------------------------
=== Lookup started at Fri 12/19/2025 8:28:03.55 ===
BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65

Searching for location of bssid: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65

BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65
Raw latitude integer: 3245990371
Raw longitude integer: -9381384277
Latitude (degrees): 32.459904
Longitude (degrees): -93.813843

BSSID: 02:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Raw latitude integer: 3245890808
Raw longitude integer: -9381494903
Latitude (degrees): 32.458908
Longitude (degrees): -93.814949

BSSID: 44:1c:12:99:23:58
Raw latitude integer: 3245909881
Raw longitude integer: -9381492614
Latitude (degrees): 32.459099
Longitude (degrees): -93.814926

BSSID: 44:1c:12:99:23:5b
Raw latitude integer: 3245910644
Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
Latitude (degrees): 32.459106
Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

BSSID: 44:1c:12:99:23:5d
Raw latitude integer: 3245910644
Raw longitude integer: -9381491851
Latitude (degrees): 32.459106
Longitude (degrees): -93.814919

BSSID: 44:1c:12:99:23:5e
Raw latitude integer: 3245911026
Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
Latitude (degrees): 32.459110
Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

BSSID: 06:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Raw latitude integer: 3245891952
Raw longitude integer: -9381494903
Latitude (degrees): 32.458920
Longitude (degrees): -93.814949

BSSID: 72:13:01:01:99:9a
Raw latitude integer: 3245920944
Raw longitude integer: -9381445312
Latitude (degrees): 32.459209
Longitude (degrees): -93.814453

BSSID: 72:13:01:01:99:9d
Raw latitude integer: 3245919036
Raw longitude integer: -9381446838
Latitude (degrees): 32.459190
Longitude (degrees): -93.814468

BSSID: ec:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Raw latitude integer: 3245891571
Raw longitude integer: -9381494140
Latitude (degrees): 32.458916
Longitude (degrees): -93.814941

BSSID: fa:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Raw latitude integer: 3245891571
Raw longitude integer: -9381493377
Latitude (degrees): 32.458916
Longitude (degrees): -93.814934

BSSID: 12:36:aa:7d:3d:b1
Raw latitude integer: 3245915603
Raw longitude integer: -9381276702
Latitude (degrees): 32.459156
Longitude (degrees): -93.812767

BSSID: 12:36:aa:7d:3d:b2
Raw latitude integer: 3245915222
Raw longitude integer: -9381278228
Latitude (degrees): 32.459152
Longitude (degrees): -93.812782

BSSID: 12:36:aa:7d:3d:b6
Raw latitude integer: 3245914840
Raw longitude integer: -9381275177
Latitude (degrees): 32.459148
Longitude (degrees): -93.812752

BSSID: 12:36:aa:c2:2c:01
Raw latitude integer: 3245956802
Raw longitude integer: -9381256103
Latitude (degrees): 32.459568
Longitude (degrees): -93.812561

BSSID: 12:59:32:64:b2:bc
Raw latitude integer: 3245960617
Raw longitude integer: -9381244659
Latitude (degrees): 32.459606
Longitude (degrees): -93.812447

BSSID: 14:c0:3e:38:ef:36
Raw latitude integer: 3245923614
Raw longitude integer: -9381269073
Latitude (degrees): 32.459236
Longitude (degrees): -93.812691

BSSID: 16:c0:3e:38:ef:36
Raw latitude integer: 3245925140
Raw longitude integer: -9381269836
Latitude (degrees): 32.459251
Longitude (degrees): -93.812698

BSSID: 1a:c0:3e:38:ef:36
Raw latitude integer: 3245925140
Raw longitude integer: -9381269073
Latitude (degrees): 32.459251
Longitude (degrees): -93.812691

BSSID: 02:aa:a0:79:a6:b8
Raw latitude integer: 3245920181
Raw longitude integer: -9381246185
Latitude (degrees): 32.459202
Longitude (degrees): -93.812462

BSSID: 38:17:b1:28:28:46
Raw latitude integer: 3245931625
Raw longitude integer: -9381245422
Latitude (degrees): 32.459316
Longitude (degrees): -93.812454

BSSID: 40:48:6e:f1:9f:34
Raw latitude integer: 3245958328
Raw longitude integer: -9381306457
Latitude (degrees): 32.459583
Longitude (degrees): -93.813065

BSSID: 42:17:b1:28:28:46
Raw latitude integer: 3245932388
Raw longitude integer: -9381243133
Latitude (degrees): 32.459324
Longitude (degrees): -93.812431

BSSID: 46:d8:78:a3:03:a3
Raw latitude integer: 3245965576
Raw longitude integer: -9381226348
Latitude (degrees): 32.459656
Longitude (degrees): -93.812263

BSSID: 5c:b0:66:13:26:c1
Raw latitude integer: 3245907974
Raw longitude integer: -9381227874
Latitude (degrees): 32.459080
Longitude (degrees): -93.812279

BSSID: 5e:b0:66:13:26:c1
Raw latitude integer: 3245907592
Raw longitude integer: -9381227111
Latitude (degrees): 32.459076
Longitude (degrees): -93.812271

BSSID: 06:aa:a0:79:a6:b8
Raw latitude integer: 3245920181
Raw longitude integer: -9381246185
Latitude (degrees): 32.459202
Longitude (degrees): -93.812462

BSSID: 72:13:01:46:3c:c1
Raw latitude integer: 3245978546
Raw longitude integer: -9381228637
Latitude (degrees): 32.459785
Longitude (degrees): -93.812286

BSSID: 72:13:01:46:3c:c6
Raw latitude integer: 3245979690
Raw longitude integer: -9381228637
Latitude (degrees): 32.459797
Longitude (degrees): -93.812286

BSSID: 7e:b0:66:13:26:c1
Raw latitude integer: 3245907211
Raw longitude integer: -9381227874
Latitude (degrees): 32.459072
Longitude (degrees): -93.812279

BSSID: 88:ad:43:48:4a:a8
Raw latitude integer: 3245934295
Raw longitude integer: -9381259918
Latitude (degrees): 32.459343
Longitude (degrees): -93.812599

BSSID: 8c:76:3f:b7:b7:97
Raw latitude integer: 3245985412
Raw longitude integer: -9381255340
Latitude (degrees): 32.459854
Longitude (degrees): -93.812553

BSSID: 8e:76:3f:b7:b7:97
Raw latitude integer: 3245984649
Raw longitude integer: -9381256103
Latitude (degrees): 32.459846
Longitude (degrees): -93.812561

BSSID: 96:76:3f:b7:b7:97
Raw latitude integer: 3245984649
Raw longitude integer: -9381255340
Latitude (degrees): 32.459846
Longitude (degrees): -93.812553

BSSID: 98:52:4a:86:fa:4c
Raw latitude integer: 3245908737
Raw longitude integer: -9381267547
Latitude (degrees): 32.459087
Longitude (degrees): -93.812675

BSSID: 98:52:4a:86:fa:4f
Raw latitude integer: 3245908355
Raw longitude integer: -9381267547
Latitude (degrees): 32.459084
Longitude (degrees): -93.812675

BSSID: 98:52:4a:86:fa:51
Raw latitude integer: 3245908355
Raw longitude integer: -9381267547
Latitude (degrees): 32.459084
Longitude (degrees): -93.812675

BSSID: 98:52:4a:86:fa:52
Raw latitude integer: 3245908737
Raw longitude integer: -9381268310
Latitude (degrees): 32.459087
Longitude (degrees): -93.812683

BSSID: 9e:ad:43:48:4a:a8
Raw latitude integer: 3245934677
Raw longitude integer: -9381259918
Latitude (degrees): 32.459347
Longitude (degrees): -93.812599

BSSID: 9e:b0:66:13:26:c1
Raw latitude integer: 3245907211
Raw longitude integer: -9381227874
Latitude (degrees): 32.459072
Longitude (degrees): -93.812279

BSSID: ac:91:9b:c6:7d:d2
Raw latitude integer: 3245978927
Raw longitude integer: -9381267547
Latitude (degrees): 32.459789
Longitude (degrees): -93.812675

BSSID: b2:4f:b8:7f:cb:83
Raw latitude integer: 3245938873
Raw longitude integer: -9381260681
Latitude (degrees): 32.459389
Longitude (degrees): -93.812607

BSSID: ce:6c:6d:83:12:4d
Raw latitude integer: 3245933151
Raw longitude integer: -9381253051
Latitude (degrees): 32.459332
Longitude (degrees): -93.812531

BSSID: d4:6c:6d:83:12:4d
Raw latitude integer: 3245931243
Raw longitude integer: -9381252288
Latitude (degrees): 32.459312
Longitude (degrees): -93.812523

BSSID: d6:6c:6d:83:12:4d
Raw latitude integer: 3245933914
Raw longitude integer: -9381251525
Latitude (degrees): 32.459339
Longitude (degrees): -93.812515

BSSID: da:13:99:28:92:b0
Raw latitude integer: 3245917510
Raw longitude integer: -9381269836
Latitude (degrees): 32.459175
Longitude (degrees): -93.812698

BSSID: e8:97:b8:8e:5d:0a
Raw latitude integer: 3245927047
Raw longitude integer: -9381250000
Latitude (degrees): 32.459270
Longitude (degrees): -93.812500

BSSID: 0e:c0:3e:38:ef:36
Raw latitude integer: 3245924758
Raw longitude integer: -9381269073
Latitude (degrees): 32.459248
Longitude (degrees): -93.812691

BSSID: ec:aa:a0:79:a6:b8
Raw latitude integer: 3245919418
Raw longitude integer: -9381246185
Latitude (degrees): 32.459194
Longitude (degrees): -93.812462

BSSID: f4:0e:83:d7:fb:68
Raw latitude integer: 3245946121
Raw longitude integer: -9381263732
Latitude (degrees): 32.459461
Longitude (degrees): -93.812637

BSSID: fa:aa:a0:79:a6:b8
Raw latitude integer: 3245920181
Raw longitude integer: -9381246185
Latitude (degrees): 32.459202
Longitude (degrees): -93.812462

BSSID: fc:ae:34:94:57:f0
Raw latitude integer: 3245948028
Raw longitude integer: -9381231689
Latitude (degrees): 32.459480
Longitude (degrees): -93.812317

BSSID: fe:ae:34:94:57:f1
Raw latitude integer: 3245947265
Raw longitude integer: -9381232452
Latitude (degrees): 32.459473
Longitude (degrees): -93.812325

BSSID: 00:71:c2:b2:32:68
Raw latitude integer: 3245960998
Raw longitude integer: -9381239318
Latitude (degrees): 32.459610
Longitude (degrees): -93.812393

BSSID: 16:71:c2:b2:32:68
Raw latitude integer: 3245961761
Raw longitude integer: -9381238555
Latitude (degrees): 32.459618
Longitude (degrees): -93.812386

BSSID: 1a:71:c2:b2:32:68
Raw latitude integer: 3245961761
Raw longitude integer: -9381238555
Latitude (degrees): 32.459618
Longitude (degrees): -93.812386

BSSID: 10:93:97:0a:e7:80
Raw latitude integer: 3245982742
Raw longitude integer: -9381553649
Latitude (degrees): 32.459827
Longitude (degrees): -93.815536

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:39
Raw latitude integer: 3245925140
Raw longitude integer: -9381566619
Latitude (degrees): 32.459251
Longitude (degrees): -93.815666

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3a
Raw latitude integer: 3245926284
Raw longitude integer: -9381568908
Latitude (degrees): 32.459263
Longitude (degrees): -93.815689

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3d
Raw latitude integer: 3245923614
Raw longitude integer: -9381565856
Latitude (degrees): 32.459236
Longitude (degrees): -93.815659

BSSID: 12:36:aa:62:9c:3e
Raw latitude integer: 3245925521
Raw longitude integer: -9381567382
Latitude (degrees): 32.459255
Longitude (degrees): -93.815674

BSSID: 12:36:aa:85:84:c9
Raw latitude integer: 3245957183
Raw longitude integer: -9381577301
Latitude (degrees): 32.459572
Longitude (degrees): -93.815773

BSSID: 18:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
Raw latitude integer: 3245976257
Raw longitude integer: -9381594085
Latitude (degrees): 32.459763
Longitude (degrees): -93.815941

BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:42
Raw latitude integer: 3245947265
Raw longitude integer: -9381558227
Latitude (degrees): 32.459473
Longitude (degrees): -93.815582

BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:43
Raw latitude integer: 3245948028
Raw longitude integer: -9381558227
Latitude (degrees): 32.459480
Longitude (degrees): -93.815582

BSSID: 02:cb:7a:c2:d1:45
Raw latitude integer: 3245947265
Raw longitude integer: -9381559753
Latitude (degrees): 32.459473
Longitude (degrees): -93.815598

BSSID: 36:e6:e6:86:cd:1c
Raw latitude integer: 3245981216
Raw longitude integer: -9381570434
Latitude (degrees): 32.459812
Longitude (degrees): -93.815704

BSSID: 3a:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
Raw latitude integer: 3245977020
Raw longitude integer: -9381596374
Latitude (degrees): 32.459770
Longitude (degrees): -93.815964

BSSID: 5a:9c:27:b6:4b:8a
Raw latitude integer: 3245976257
Raw longitude integer: -9381596374
Latitude (degrees): 32.459763
Longitude (degrees): -93.815964

BSSID: 8c:85:80:e4:35:dd
Raw latitude integer: 3245977783
Raw longitude integer: -9381558990
Latitude (degrees): 32.459778
Longitude (degrees): -93.815590

BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Raw latitude integer: 3245982742
Raw longitude integer: -9381554412
Latitude (degrees): 32.459827
Longitude (degrees): -93.815544

BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Raw latitude integer: 3245903778
Raw longitude integer: -9381518554
Latitude (degrees): 32.459038
Longitude (degrees): -93.815186

BSSID: 8e:76:3f:d4:13:8d
Raw latitude integer: 3245978164
Raw longitude integer: -9381594085
Latitude (degrees): 32.459782
Longitude (degrees): -93.815941

BSSID: 94:a6:7e:31:02:35
Raw latitude integer: 3245890045
Raw longitude integer: -9381510162
Latitude (degrees): 32.458900
Longitude (degrees): -93.815102

BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Raw latitude integer: 3245982742
Raw longitude integer: -9381554412
Latitude (degrees): 32.459827
Longitude (degrees): -93.815544

BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Raw latitude integer: 3245905303
Raw longitude integer: -9381518554
Latitude (degrees): 32.459053
Longitude (degrees): -93.815186

BSSID: a2:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Raw latitude integer: 3245982360
Raw longitude integer: -9381554412
Latitude (degrees): 32.459824
Longitude (degrees): -93.815544

BSSID: a2:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Raw latitude integer: 3245904541
Raw longitude integer: -9381518554
Latitude (degrees): 32.459045
Longitude (degrees): -93.815186

BSSID: a6:0f:6f:21:c8:80
Raw latitude integer: 3245983123
Raw longitude integer: -9381557464
Latitude (degrees): 32.459831
Longitude (degrees): -93.815575

BSSID: a6:0f:6f:d3:3b:68
Raw latitude integer: 3245905685
Raw longitude integer: -9381520080
Latitude (degrees): 32.459057
Longitude (degrees): -93.815201

BSSID: be:61:e9:cd:aa:a8
Raw latitude integer: 3245882415
Raw longitude integer: -9381622314
Latitude (degrees): 32.458824
Longitude (degrees): -93.816223

BSSID: ca:3a:6b:db:9b:ba
Raw latitude integer: 3245902252
Raw longitude integer: -9381513977
Latitude (degrees): 32.459023
Longitude (degrees): -93.815140

BSSID: ce:6c:6d:53:02:e5
Raw latitude integer: 3245964050
Raw longitude integer: -9381594848
Latitude (degrees): 32.459640
Longitude (degrees): -93.815948

BSSID: d4:6c:6d:53:02:e5
Raw latitude integer: 3245963287
Raw longitude integer: -9381592559
Latitude (degrees): 32.459633
Longitude (degrees): -93.815926

BSSID: d6:6c:6d:53:02:e5
Raw latitude integer: 3245962142
Raw longitude integer: -9381593322
Latitude (degrees): 32.459621
Longitude (degrees): -93.815933

BSSID: da:e3:5e:f7:08:87
Raw latitude integer: 3245980834
Raw longitude integer: -9381555938
Latitude (degrees): 32.459808
Longitude (degrees): -93.815559

BSSID: f8:aa:3f:fe:b2:1e
Raw latitude integer: 3245905303
Raw longitude integer: -9381512451
Latitude (degrees): 32.459053
Longitude (degrees): -93.815125

BSSID: 4e:6b:b8:aa:8c:80
Raw latitude integer: 3245885086
Raw longitude integer: -9381540679
Latitude (degrees): 32.458851
Longitude (degrees): -93.815407

BSSID: 78:b2:13:e7:91:39
Raw latitude integer: 3245882797
Raw longitude integer: -9381607055
Latitude (degrees): 32.458828
Longitude (degrees): -93.816071

BSSID: 9e:b3:f7:21:91:e7
Raw latitude integer: 3245910263
Raw longitude integer: -9381617736
Latitude (degrees): 32.459103
Longitude (degrees): -93.816177

BSSID: ce:8b:66:31:a1:df
Raw latitude integer: 3245933151
Raw longitude integer: -9381556701
Latitude (degrees): 32.459332
Longitude (degrees): -93.815567

BSSID: 80:30:dc:c2:05:26
Raw latitude integer: 3245886993
Raw longitude integer: -9381635284
Latitude (degrees): 32.458870
Longitude (degrees): -93.816353

BSSID: 6e:29:90:f7:23:74
Raw latitude integer: 3245903396
Raw longitude integer: -9381517791
Latitude (degrees): 32.459034
Longitude (degrees): -93.815178

BSSID: 0c:73:29:ff:29:93
Raw latitude integer: 3245893096
Raw longitude integer: -9381542968
Latitude (degrees): 32.458931
Longitude (degrees): -93.815430

BSSID: 7e:27:bc:95:f5:35
Raw latitude integer: 3245974349
Raw longitude integer: -9381566619
Latitude (degrees): 32.459743
Longitude (degrees): -93.815666

BSSID: 00:cb:7a:d0:d1:42
Raw latitude integer: 3245967102
Raw longitude integer: -9381575775
Latitude (degrees): 32.459671
Longitude (degrees): -93.815758

BSSID: 00:cb:7a:d0:d1:47
Raw latitude integer: 3245966720
Raw longitude integer: -9381576538
Latitude (degrees): 32.459667
Longitude (degrees): -93.815765

BSSID: 2c:7e:81:ab:cd:1b
Raw latitude integer: 3245813751
Raw longitude integer: -9381472778
Latitude (degrees): 32.458138
Longitude (degrees): -93.814728

BSSID: 2c:fb:0f:0f:66:06
Raw latitude integer: 3245831298
Raw longitude integer: -9381491851
Latitude (degrees): 32.458313
Longitude (degrees): -93.814919

BSSID: 36:fb:0f:0f:66:06
Raw latitude integer: 3245833969
Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
Latitude (degrees): 32.458340
Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

BSSID: 4e:7e:81:ab:cd:1b
Raw latitude integer: 3245811080
Raw longitude integer: -9381472778
Latitude (degrees): 32.458111
Longitude (degrees): -93.814728

BSSID: 6e:7e:81:ab:cd:1b
Raw latitude integer: 3245812988
Raw longitude integer: -9381472778
Latitude (degrees): 32.458130
Longitude (degrees): -93.814728

BSSID: 84:00:2d:41:9a:38
Raw latitude integer: 3245840454
Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
Latitude (degrees): 32.458405
Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

BSSID: 88:6a:e3:e0:51:c4
Raw latitude integer: 3245843887
Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
Latitude (degrees): 32.458439
Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

BSSID: 92:00:2d:41:9a:38
Raw latitude integer: 3245839691
Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
Latitude (degrees): 32.458397
Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

BSSID: 9a:00:2d:41:9a:38
Raw latitude integer: 3245840454
Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
Latitude (degrees): 32.458405
Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

BSSID: 9a:9d:5d:df:f0:6a
Raw latitude integer: 3245788955
Raw longitude integer: -9381491851
Latitude (degrees): 32.457890
Longitude (degrees): -93.814919

BSSID: 9e:00:2d:41:9a:38
Raw latitude integer: 3245840072
Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
Latitude (degrees): 32.458401
Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

BSSID: be:8c:cd:2f:95:16
Raw latitude integer: 3245823669
Raw longitude integer: -9381494903
Latitude (degrees): 32.458237
Longitude (degrees): -93.814949

BSSID: c2:18:03:fb:7c:5e
Raw latitude integer: 3245796585
Raw longitude integer: -9381478118
Latitude (degrees): 32.457966
Longitude (degrees): -93.814781

BSSID: 0c:83:cc:c6:58:4f
Raw latitude integer: 3245823669
Raw longitude integer: -9381491851
Latitude (degrees): 32.458237
Longitude (degrees): -93.814919

BSSID: ce:3f:cb:da:f6:1b
Raw latitude integer: 3245833587
Raw longitude integer: -9381475830
Latitude (degrees): 32.458336
Longitude (degrees): -93.814758

BSSID: ce:ab:82:cf:55:98
Raw latitude integer: 3245824432
Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
Latitude (degrees): 32.458244
Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

BSSID: d4:3f:cb:da:f6:1b
Raw latitude integer: 3245833206
Raw longitude integer: -9381475067
Latitude (degrees): 32.458332
Longitude (degrees): -93.814751

BSSID: d4:ab:82:cf:55:98
Raw latitude integer: 3245824432
Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
Latitude (degrees): 32.458244
Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

BSSID: d6:3f:cb:da:f6:1b
Raw latitude integer: 3245833969
Raw longitude integer: -9381475067
Latitude (degrees): 32.458340
Longitude (degrees): -93.814751

BSSID: d6:ab:82:cf:55:98
Raw latitude integer: 3245823669
Raw longitude integer: -9381490325
Latitude (degrees): 32.458237
Longitude (degrees): -93.814903

BSSID: da:3f:cb:da:f6:1b
Raw latitude integer: 3245833587
Raw longitude integer: -9381475067
Latitude (degrees): 32.458336
Longitude (degrees): -93.814751

BSSID: da:ab:82:cf:55:98
Raw latitude integer: 3245823669
Raw longitude integer: -9381491088
Latitude (degrees): 32.458237
Longitude (degrees): -93.814911

BSSID: 0e:fe:7b:7e:0e:29
Raw latitude integer: 3245786666
Raw longitude integer: -9381475830
Latitude (degrees): 32.457867
Longitude (degrees): -93.814758

BSSID: f8:aa:3f:fe:b2:3b
Raw latitude integer: 3245837783
Raw longitude integer: -9381485748
Latitude (degrees): 32.458378
Longitude (degrees): -93.814857

BSSID: 42:9e:9d:73:67:ef
Raw latitude integer: 3245817947
Raw longitude integer: -9381486511
Latitude (degrees): 32.458179
Longitude (degrees): -93.814865

BSSID: 6e:57:25:f3:7c:e5
Raw latitude integer: 3245834732
Raw longitude integer: -9381487274
Latitude (degrees): 32.458347
Longitude (degrees): -93.814873

BSSID: 9e:73:b1:ef:ad:77
Raw latitude integer: 3245817184
Raw longitude integer: -9381499481
Latitude (degrees): 32.458172
Longitude (degrees): -93.814995

BSSID: 1c:56:8e:0b:3b:34
Raw latitude integer: 3246085739
Raw longitude integer: -9381424713
Latitude (degrees): 32.460857
Longitude (degrees): -93.814247

BSSID: 24:de:8a:10:6e:a4
Raw latitude integer: 3246070098
Raw longitude integer: -9381474304
Latitude (degrees): 32.460701
Longitude (degrees): -93.814743

BSSID: 24:de:8a:60:04:14
Raw latitude integer: 3246067428
Raw longitude integer: -9381462860
Latitude (degrees): 32.460674
Longitude (degrees): -93.814629

BSSID: 48:e2:ad:ad:39:f4
Raw latitude integer: 3246047592
Raw longitude integer: -9381441497
Latitude (degrees): 32.460476
Longitude (degrees): -93.814415

BSSID: 54:2b:57:35:d6:c5
Raw latitude integer: 3246046829
Raw longitude integer: -9381445312
Latitude (degrees): 32.460468
Longitude (degrees): -93.814453

BSSID: 54:b2:03:53:16:68
Raw latitude integer: 3246035766
Raw longitude integer: -9381394195
Latitude (degrees): 32.460358
Longitude (degrees): -93.813942

BSSID: 56:2b:57:2f:ff:cf
Raw latitude integer: 3246062088
Raw longitude integer: -9381448364
Latitude (degrees): 32.460621
Longitude (degrees): -93.814484

BSSID: 62:b2:03:53:16:68
Raw latitude integer: 3246036911
Raw longitude integer: -9381393432
Latitude (degrees): 32.460369
Longitude (degrees): -93.813934

BSSID: 6a:b2:03:53:16:68
Raw latitude integer: 3246036911
Raw longitude integer: -9381393432
Latitude (degrees): 32.460369
Longitude (degrees): -93.813934

BSSID: 6e:b2:03:53:16:68
Raw latitude integer: 3246028518
Raw longitude integer: -9381393432
Latitude (degrees): 32.460285
Longitude (degrees): -93.813934

BSSID: 82:da:c2:2d:1f:12
Raw latitude integer: 3246070861
Raw longitude integer: -9381422424
Latitude (degrees): 32.460709
Longitude (degrees): -93.814224

BSSID: 82:da:c2:2d:1f:15
Raw latitude integer: 3246070480
Raw longitude integer: -9381422424
Latitude (degrees): 32.460705
Longitude (degrees): -93.814224

BSSID: c0:94:35:dc:33:1a
Raw latitude integer: 3246071624
Raw longitude integer: -9381478881
Latitude (degrees): 32.460716
Longitude (degrees): -93.814789

BSSID: ce:94:35:dc:33:1a
Raw latitude integer: 3246070861
Raw longitude integer: -9381479644
Latitude (degrees): 32.460709
Longitude (degrees): -93.814796

BSSID: d6:94:35:dc:33:1a
Raw latitude integer: 3246070861
Raw longitude integer: -9381478881
Latitude (degrees): 32.460709
Longitude (degrees): -93.814789

BSSID: 28:c2:dd:dc:c9:b8
Raw latitude integer: 3246021270
Raw longitude integer: -9381389617
Latitude (degrees): 32.460213
Longitude (degrees): -93.813896

BSSID: 30:13:8b:2b:28:10
Raw latitude integer: 3246051025
Raw longitude integer: -9381438446
Latitude (degrees): 32.460510
Longitude (degrees): -93.814384

BSSID: 8c:0f:6f:18:7c:00
Raw latitude integer: 3246034240
Raw longitude integer: -9381385803
Latitude (degrees): 32.460342
Longitude (degrees): -93.813858

BSSID: 9a:0f:6f:18:7c:00
Raw latitude integer: 3246034622
Raw longitude integer: -9381387329
Latitude (degrees): 32.460346
Longitude (degrees): -93.813873

BSSID: a2:0f:6f:18:7c:00
Raw latitude integer: 3246035003
Raw longitude integer: -9381387329
Latitude (degrees): 32.460350
Longitude (degrees): -93.813873

BSSID: a6:0f:6f:18:7c:00
Raw latitude integer: 3246034622
Raw longitude integer: -9381386566
Latitude (degrees): 32.460346
Longitude (degrees): -93.813866

BSSID: 2a:ad:18:fc:8b:1f
Raw latitude integer: 3246102142
Raw longitude integer: -9381381988
Latitude (degrees): 32.461021
Longitude (degrees): -93.813820

BSSID: 3a:e7:c0:83:c1:a7
Raw latitude integer: 3246105575
Raw longitude integer: -9381404876
Latitude (degrees): 32.461056
Longitude (degrees): -93.814049

BSSID: c6:98:5c:db:c2:43
Raw latitude integer: 3246094512
Raw longitude integer: -9381495666
Latitude (degrees): 32.460945
Longitude (degrees): -93.814957
-----------------------------------------------
[DEBUG] Found block start for 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65
[DEBUG] Line in block: Raw latitude integer: 3245990371
[DEBUG] Line in block: Raw longitude integer: -9381384277
[DEBUG] Line in block: Latitude (degrees): 32.459904
[DEBUG] Parsed LAT candidate = "32.459904"
[DEBUG] Line in block: Longitude (degrees): -93.813843
[DEBUG] Parsed LON candidate = "-93.813843"
[DEBUG] Final LAT = "32.459904"
[DEBUG] Final LON = "-93.813843" -----------------------------------------------

@echo off
setlocal EnableDelayedExpansion
:: C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\bssid.bat
:: Use: bssid.bat <Enter> (then enter desired BSSID to look up)
:: Sample values:
:: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65
:: 00:07:89:d7:82:e8
:: 04:09:A5:3B:34:67
::
:: Logs up to 400 BSSID:GPS pairs from Apple's WPS public database
:: Loop until user types q
::
:: Changelog:
:: v1p0 20251205 - Query Apple's highly insecure WPS database
:: v1p1 20251214 - Saves to time-date stamped results.txt log file
:: v1p2 20251215 - Timestamp results.txt so it's not overwritten
:: v1p3 20251219 - Limit to 6 decimal places (as per Chris/Paul/Tyrone)
:: v1p4 20251219 - Show original raw integers + converted decimals
:: v1p5 20251219 - Tried to accomodate Google Maps query to new format
:: v1p6 20251219 - Changed to block-aware parsing with debug output
:: v1p7 20251219 - Enable delayed expansion to fix parsing inside loops

set LOGDIR=%~dp0log
if not exist "%LOGDIR%" mkdir "%LOGDIR%"

:: Create a unique session log (YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS)
for /f %%A in ('wmic os get localdatetime ^| find "."') do set dt0=%%A
set "session_ts=%dt0:~0,8%_%dt0:~8,6%"
set "session_log=%LOGDIR%\session_%session_ts%.log"

echo === New BSSID lookup session started at %date% %time% === >> "%session_log%"

echo.
echo === Nearby Wi-Fi Networks ===
netsh wlan show networks mode=bssid
echo =============================

:loop
echo.
set /p BSSID=Enter the BSSID (or q to quit):

if /I "%BSSID%"=="q" goto end

:: --- Clean up input ---
set "BSSID=%BSSID:"=%"
set "BSSID=%BSSID: =%"

:: --- Make filename-safe version ---
set "safeBSSID=%BSSID::=-%"

:: --- Generate timestamp for THIS lookup ---
for /f %%A in ('wmic os get localdatetime ^| find "."') do set dt=%%A
set "ts=%dt:~0,8%_%dt:~8,6%"

:: --- Timestamped output file ---
set "outfile=%LOGDIR%\bssid_%safeBSSID%_%ts%.txt"

:: --- Clear previous coordinates ---
set "LAT="
set "LON="

echo === Lookup started at %date% %time% === > "%outfile%"
echo BSSID: %BSSID% >> "%outfile%"
echo. >> "%outfile%"

:: --- Run Python lookup ---
python.exe apple_bssid_locator.py %BSSID% --all >> "%outfile%"

:: --- Display results ---
echo -----------------------------------------------
type "%outfile%"
echo -----------------------------------------------

:: --- Block-aware parsing of coordinates (with delayed expansion) ---
set "CAPTURE="
set "LAT="
set "LON="

for /f "usebackq delims=" %%L in ("%outfile%") do (
if /i "%%L"=="BSSID: %BSSID%" (
set "CAPTURE=1"
set "LAT="
set "LON="
echo [DEBUG] Found block start for %BSSID%
) else if defined CAPTURE (
echo [DEBUG] Line in block: %%L

echo %%L | findstr /i /c:"Latitude (degrees):" >nul
if not errorlevel 1 (
for /f "tokens=2 delims=:" %%A in ("%%L") do set "LAT=%%A"
if defined LAT set "LAT=!LAT: =!"
echo [DEBUG] Parsed LAT candidate = "!LAT!"
)

echo %%L | findstr /i /c:"Longitude (degrees):" >nul
if not errorlevel 1 (
for /f "tokens=2 delims=:" %%B in ("%%L") do set "LON=%%B"
if defined LON set "LON=!LON: =!"
echo [DEBUG] Parsed LON candidate = "!LON!"
)

if defined LAT if defined LON (
goto :gotCoords
)

echo %%L | findstr /i /c:"BSSID:" >nul
if not errorlevel 1 (
set "CAPTURE="
)
)
)

:gotCoords
echo [DEBUG] Final LAT = "!LAT!"
echo [DEBUG] Final LON = "!LON!"

:: --- Validate parsed coordinates ---
if not defined LAT echo [DEBUG][ERROR] Latitude not captured. Check Python output format near "BSSID: %BSSID%".
if not defined LON echo [DEBUG][ERROR] Longitude not captured. Check Python output format near "BSSID: %BSSID%".

:: --- Save results ---
echo === Lookup finished at %date% %time% === >> "%outfile%"
echo. >> "%outfile%"

:: --- Append to session log ---
echo [%date% %time%] BSSID: %BSSID% >> "%session_log%"
echo Latitude: !LAT! >> "%session_log%"
echo Longitude: !LON! >> "%session_log%"
echo. >> "%session_log%"

:: --- Append to master log ---
echo [%date% %time%] BSSID: %BSSID% >> "%LOGDIR%\results.log"
echo Latitude: !LAT! >> "%LOGDIR%\results.log"
echo Longitude: !LON! >> "%LOGDIR%\results.log"
echo. >> "%LOGDIR%\results.log"

:: --- Open in Google Maps ---
if defined LAT if defined LON start msedge "https://www.google.com/maps/search/?api=1&query=!LAT!,!LON!"

goto loop

:end
echo Exiting. Goodbye!
endlocal

:: end of C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\bssid.bat
#!/usr/bin/env -S uv run --script
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
# C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\apple_bssid_locator.py
# Queries Apple WPS database for GPS:BSSID location pairs
# Implementation based on https://github.com/hubert3/iSniff-GPS
#
# Usage: apple_bssid_locator.py 11:22:33:AA:BB:CC
# Usage: apple_bssid_locator.py 11:22:33:AA:BB:CC --all
# Usage: apple_bssid_locator.py 11:22:33:AA:BB:CC --map
#
# Changelog:
# v1p0 20251205 - Initial version
# v1p1 20251214 - Added logging to results.txt
# v1p2 20251215 - Timestamped results.txt to avoid overwrites
# v1p3 20251219 - Limited output to 6 decimal places
# v1p4 20251219 - Added raw integer output alongside converted decimals

import argparse
import requests
import webbrowser
import AppleWLoc_pb2

def parse_arguments():
parser = argparse.ArgumentParser()
parser.add_argument("bssid", type=str, help="display the location of the bssid")
parser.add_argument("-m", "--map", help="shows the location on google maps", action='store_true')
parser.add_argument("-a", "--all", help="shows all results returned, not just the requested one", action='store_true')
args = parser.parse_args()
return args

def format_bssid(bssid):
return ':'.join(e.rjust(2, '0') for e in bssid.split(':'))

def query_bssid(bssid, output_file="results.txt"):
apple_wloc = AppleWLoc_pb2.AppleWLoc()
wifi_device = apple_wloc.wifi_devices.add()
wifi_device.bssid = bssid
apple_wloc.unknown_value1 = 0
apple_wloc.return_single_result = 0 # request ALL results
serialized_apple_wloc = apple_wloc.SerializeToString()
length_serialized_apple_wloc = len(serialized_apple_wloc)

headers = {'User-Agent':'locationd/1753.17 CFNetwork/889.9 Darwin/17.2.0'}
data = b"\x00\x01\x00\x05"+b"en_US"+b"\x00\x13"+b"com.apple.locationd"+b"\x00\x0a"+b"8.1.12B411"+b"\x00\x00\x00\x01\x00\x00\x00" + bytes((length_serialized_apple_wloc,)) + serialized_apple_wloc
r = requests.post('https://gs-loc.apple.com/clls/wloc', headers=headers, data=data)

apple_wloc = AppleWLoc_pb2.AppleWLoc()
apple_wloc.ParseFromString(r.content[10:])

# Build dictionary of results
results = {}
with open(output_file, "w") as f:
for wifi_device in apple_wloc.wifi_devices:
if wifi_device.HasField('location'):
raw_lat = wifi_device.location.latitude
raw_lon = wifi_device.location.longitude
lat = raw_lat * 1e-8
lon = raw_lon * 1e-8
mac = format_bssid(wifi_device.bssid)
results[mac] = (lat, lon, raw_lat, raw_lon)
# Write both raw integers and converted decimals
f.write(f"{mac}\t{raw_lat}\t{raw_lon}\t{lat:.6f}\t{lon:.6f}\n")

print(f"Saved {len(results)} entries to {output_file}")
return results

def main():
args = parse_arguments()
print("Searching for location of bssid: %s" % args.bssid)
results = query_bssid(args.bssid)

# Determine which BSSIDs to process
bssids_to_process = results.keys() if args.all else [args.bssid.lower()]

found = False
for bssid in bssids_to_process:
if bssid in results:
lat, lon, raw_lat, raw_lon = results[bssid]
if lat == -180.0 and lon == -180.0:
continue # Skip entries that were not found
if found:
print()
print(f"BSSID: {bssid}")
print(f"Raw latitude integer: {raw_lat}")
print(f"Raw longitude integer: {raw_lon}")
print(f"Latitude (degrees): {lat:.6f}")
print(f"Longitude (degrees): {lon:.6f}")
if args.map:
url = f"http://www.google.com/maps/place/{lat:.6f},{lon:.6f}"
webbrowser.open(url)
found = True

if not found:
print("The bssid was not found.")

if __name__ == '__main__':
main()

# end of C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\apple_bssid_locator.py
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Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote at 04:59 this Friday (GMT):

Marian <marianjones@helpfulpeople.com> wrote:

Chris wrote:

If you understood the code you'd know that the WPS DB returns the lat/lon >>> as a 64bit integer and the python script converts into a float with a
simple multiplication of 1e-8. Anything beyond the 8th dp is noise.

So what you claim as being exactly what is in the Apple WPS db is factually >>> incorrect. Yet again.

I agree with anyone who states a logically sensible viewpoint, no matter
who they are, & I disagree with those who don't, no matter who they are.

Here is some output from my bssid.bat script which I've provided to you.

BSSID: 6a:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.45987701
Longitude: -93.81723022

BSSID: 6e:b2:03:2f:1b:60
Latitude: 32.459846490000004
Longitude: -93.81730651000001

BSSID: 84:eb:3e:f8:36:d3
Latitude: 32.45880508
Longitude: -93.81717681

BSSID: 84:eb:3e:fa:b2:63
Latitude: 32.4595375
Longitude: -93.81742858

BSSID: 84:eb:3f:08:e0:72
Latitude: 32.45973968
Longitude: -93.81745147000001

BSSID: 8c:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
Latitude: 32.45948791
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

BSSID: 8c:85:80:d1:be:37
Latitude: 32.45985031
Longitude: -93.81759643000001

Why do you think the decimal places are what they are, Chris?

It's literally explained to you above. Floating point values are always an approximation when interpreted in code. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/python/floating-point-error-in-python/

Any novice programmer knows this.

Never trust a float for anything that requires precision.
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On 2025-12-19 07:38, Marian wrote:

Marian wrote:

As for the GPS decimal places, I make no dispute about the "noise" level.
All I'm showing you is EXACTLY what's in the Apple WPS database, Chris.

Here is a snippet of the results when looking up a particular BSSID which happens to be located in Chris Hayes Recreation Center in Mooretown Park
in Shreveport, Louisiana, near the Shreveport Regional Airport <https:// www.google.com/maps/search/?api=1&query=32.459904,-93.813843>

bssid.bat      Enter the BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65

You'll get a map of where that AP is in that building, plus a listing
of up to 400 nearby access point locations (which fermium can map en
masse).

Ummmmmmm...wrong.

You will get an ESTIMATE of where that AP is located.
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On 2025-12-17 10:27, Tyrone wrote:

On Dec 17, 2025 at 9:44:13 AM EST, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2025-12-17 02:45, Chris wrote:

If you understood the code you'd know that the WPS DB returns the lat/lon >>> as a 64bit integer and the python script converts into a float with a
simple multiplication of 1e-8. Anything beyond the 8th dp is noise.

Where a GPS position in Lat/Long (base 10 real*) is concerned, anything
beyond the 5th dp is noise in almost all cases including SBAS aided.**

Even beyond the the 4th dp, it is likely noise in most cases.

If Lat is represented as a fraction of a semi-circle, then a signed 32
bit integer is more than adequate for general purposes.
Likewise Longitude as a fraction of a circle.
(LSB=0.0046...m and 0.0093...m respectively - though you could represent
Lat as a circle as well at the loss of 1 bit of resolution).

*by real I mean number line real, not computer language "real" type.

**(Excluding survey RTK measurements - which are baseline lengths, not
L/L but might be tied to a precise L/L - there 1cm+1mm/km error is common)

All of which goes against Arlen's desperate attempts to prove that one can be "tracked by a router". When the reality is that all one can track is the router. Which is meaningless.

There are literally 100's of thousands of router locations (WiFi) that
are available in databases with their locations well known. Any
receiver (including smartphones) can have apps that use the GPS to "tag"
a WiFi label with the position where it was detected. The error in
position being where the detecting radio (smartphone or other) was when
it found that WiFi. (SSID).

This can be on any system - whether Apple did so or contributed to such
- I don't know.

It's a meaningless complaint, regardless of who is doing it. As in all
such things: if there is an outcome that "can" happen - it assuredly
"will" happen.

In yet another desperate attempt to make Apple "look bad".

Par. Ignore it.
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On 2025-12-17 10:39, Chris wrote:

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

Even beyond the the 4th dp, it is likely noise in most cases.

I accept that.

I was trying to explain to Donald that what he believes to be factual
isn't. Simply by reading the scripts and not even needing to understanding what the variables mean.

If Lat is represented as a fraction of a semi-circle, then a signed 32
bit integer is more than adequate for general purposes.

TBH I was surprised to see it represented as a 64bit int. I believe python stores floats as doubles, hence the meaningless precision in the output.

If you meant to say, "Python programmers are generally lazy and fail to analyze their system before coding*" I would not be surprised.

A peeve of mine is over use of 64 bit stores where 8 bits is already
overkill (boolean).

32 bit is adequate for the vast majority of float operations.

Heck, GPU's use what? 16bit float? 24?

*I wont even mention "design before coding" -that is an absolute fantasy
in the Python world.

Python is great - and the vast libraries available are a treasure.
But it is not "production" code.
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On 2025-12-18 16:31, Marian wrote:

Alan Browne wrote:

Where a GPS position in Lat/Long (base 10 real*) is concerned,
anything beyond the 5th dp is noise in almost all cases including SBAS
aided.**

What we have to ask ourselves then is why Apple stores them this way?

  BSSID: 8c:85:80:d1:be:37
  Latitude: 32.45985031
  Longitude: -93.81759643000001
  BSSID: 8e:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
  Latitude: 32.4594841
  Longitude: -93.8175888

This isn't esp. obscene. A little overkill (2 or 3 dp's)

  BSSID: 92:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
  Latitude: 32.4594841
  Longitude: -93.81756591

  BSSID: 92:95:51:b5:b6:ae
  Latitude: 32.45910644
  Longitude: -93.81759643000001

That trailing "1" seems to be a conversion artifact from a
multiplication somewhere - sourced as 64b integer and stored as 64b
float (probably).

Does anyone have any idea why the highly insecure Apple WPS database
contains GPS entries to this illogically numerous set of decimal places?

"illogical"? Not at all. Nobody got fired or crashed a Mars lander for excessive resolution. The reverse case is a different matter.
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Alan Browne wrote:

Alan Browne wrote:

Where a GPS position in Lat/Long (base 10 real*) is concerned,
anything beyond the 5th dp is noise in almost all cases including SBAS
aided.**

What we have to ask ourselves then is why Apple stores them this way?

  BSSID: 8c:85:80:d1:be:37
  Latitude: 32.45985031
  Longitude: -93.81759643000001
  BSSID: 8e:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
  Latitude: 32.4594841
  Longitude: -93.8175888

This isn't esp. obscene. A little overkill (2 or 3 dp's)

  BSSID: 92:76:3f:f8:5d:cd
  Latitude: 32.4594841
  Longitude: -93.81756591

  BSSID: 92:95:51:b5:b6:ae
  Latitude: 32.45910644
  Longitude: -93.81759643000001

That trailing "1" seems to be a conversion artifact from a
multiplication somewhere - sourced as 64b integer and stored as 64b
float (probably).

Does anyone have any idea why the highly insecure Apple WPS database
contains GPS entries to this illogically numerous set of decimal places?

"illogical"? Not at all. Nobody got fired or crashed a Mars lander for excessive resolution. The reverse case is a different matter.

I appreciate the technical explanation. You and others clearly understand
the GPS math at a deeper level than I do, and I am not disputing the
precision itself.

My concern is about privacy and the fact that my access points exist in the Apple WPS database in the first place, not the number of decimal places
they use.

That is why I updated the script to pull the raw values exactly as they
appear in the Apple WPS database. The numbers themselves are less important
to me than the fact that the system allows this kind of tracking at all.

I'm only responding here because you (and others) brought up the decimal places, which I wanted to faithfully respond to, since they're in the
original database, but my script converted them to human-readable form.

I am focusing mostly on the fact that I'm in Apple's WPS database even
though I opted out as per Apple's published instructions, because privacy
is the part that affects users directly. Not so much millimeter accuracy.

However, I agreed with you on the decimal places, even as I didn't (and
still do not) completely understand why they are what they are in Apple's
WPS database.

Hence, to provide you (and everyone) more completely information about what
is actually stored in Apple's WPS database, I modified the script for you.

What I did was take your input to heart by modifying the python script
(which I posted previously) to get EXACTLY what's in the Apple WPS db.

Enter the BSSID (or q to quit): 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65
-----------------------------------------------
=== Lookup started at Sat 12/20/2025 4:18:02.21 ===
BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65

Searching for location of bssid: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65

BSSID: 00:18:f8:c1:4a:65
Raw latitude integer: 3245990371
Raw longitude integer: -9381384277
Latitude (degrees): 32.459904
Longitude (degrees): -93.813843

BSSID: 02:aa:a0:e3:5f:38
Raw latitude integer: 3245890808
Raw longitude integer: -9381494903
Latitude (degrees): 32.458908
Longitude (degrees): -93.814949

BSSID: 44:1c:12:99:23:58
Raw latitude integer: 3245909881
Raw longitude integer: -9381492614
Latitude (degrees): 32.459099
Longitude (degrees): -93.814926
... and so on ...

As far as I'm aware, that's the number of INTEGER digits Apple uses in
their highly insecure WPS database to report on the location of my APs.

I wonder if it scares anyone on this newsgroup that I, a nobody, can
collect all 2 billion of Apple's WPS datapoints, using a FOSS script?
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Alan Browne wrote:

If you understood the code you'd know that the WPS DB returns the lat/lon >>>> as a 64bit integer and the python script converts into a float with a
simple multiplication of 1e-8. Anything beyond the 8th dp is noise.

Where a GPS position in Lat/Long (base 10 real*) is concerned, anything
beyond the 5th dp is noise in almost all cases including SBAS aided.**

Even beyond the the 4th dp, it is likely noise in most cases.

If Lat is represented as a fraction of a semi-circle, then a signed 32
bit integer is more than adequate for general purposes.
Likewise Longitude as a fraction of a circle.
(LSB=0.0046...m and 0.0093...m respectively - though you could represent >>> Lat as a circle as well at the loss of 1 bit of resolution).

*by real I mean number line real, not computer language "real" type.

**(Excluding survey RTK measurements - which are baseline lengths, not
L/L but might be tied to a precise L/L - there 1cm+1mm/km error is common) >>

All of which goes against Arlen's desperate attempts to prove that one can be
"tracked by a router". When the reality is that all one can track is the
router. Which is meaningless.

There are literally 100's of thousands of router locations (WiFi) that
are available in databases with their locations well known. Any
receiver (including smartphones) can have apps that use the GPS to "tag"
a WiFi label with the position where it was detected. The error in
position being where the detecting radio (smartphone or other) was when
it found that WiFi. (SSID).

This can be on any system - whether Apple did so or contributed to such
- I don't know.

It's a meaningless complaint, regardless of who is doing it. As in all
such things: if there is an outcome that "can" happen - it assuredly
"will" happen.

In yet another desperate attempt to make Apple "look bad".

Par. Ignore it.

To your concern that privacy is a "meaningless complaint", I would say the
same if I found my access point in Google's or Mozilla's public WPS DBs.

Besides, I am not arguing about decimal places, GPS math, or the precision
of the stored coordinates that any of these public WPS databases employ.

I accept explanations in this thread about integer storage & conversion.
None of that is the point I am raising because my point is privacy.

My overwhelming concern is that my own access point has nomap in the SSID
and is also hidden, yet it still appears in the Apple WPS database with coordinates attached. That means the access point was collected and stored despite the opt-out flag and despite not broadcasting the SSID. That is a privacy issue, not a numerical one.

Apple is doing the antithesis of what Apple advertises that it's doing.
Apple even lied to Congress, as far as I know, about what it's doing.

That's a problem.
a. It's a moral problem (where morality is internal to Apple)
b. It's a legal problem (where legality is what Apple must abide by)
c. And it's an ethical problem (where ethicality is basic standards)

Whether the location is accurate to four decimal places or eight does not matter. The issue is that the location exists in the database at all when
the SSID was explicitly marked not to be mapped which is 100% following
Apple's stated legally enforceable public privacy policy (& to Congress!)

That is the part I am trying to understand and discuss here.
Not decimal places, per se, although decimal places point to accuracy.

To respond to your other issues, I am not trying to make any company look
bad as I would do the same if Google or Mozilla did what Apple does.

They don't.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Location_Service>
"Mozilla's client applications do not collect information
about WiFi access points whose SSID is hidden or ends with
the string '_nomap' (e.g. 'Simpson-family-wifi_nomap')."

In summary, I am trying to understand why an access point that should not
be included in any mapping system is still present in Apple's WPS database

That is the main point I am raising here, where I disagree with your characterization of that fact being "anti Apple" as it's about privacy.

Clearly Apple doesn't bother to care to respect their own privacy policy.

But knowing that fact does not mean I'm anti Apple as I'd act the same if Mozilla (see above) didn't follow their own stated privacy policy also.
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:

The question mainly is WHY Apple stores them to the number of integers that >>they do, where all I can do is convert the integer values to human-readable >>decimal coordinates.

If you look at the original data you posted a few articles back, you
might notice that the number of significant digits in the Lat/Long
numbers vary widely for each BSSID.
That implies that the number is
coming from the GPS receiver and is probably not "processed" prior to
be being logged. The entries with fairly few significant figures is
probably an old GPS who's designers were only confident in a few
digits precision. The longer entries could easily be the output of an
RTK differential GPS system capable of millimeter accuracy. A way to
verify this is to write a program that grabs the first half of the
BSSID and searches various OUI databases for the name of the
manufacturer. Something like this:
"Wi-Fi Vendor - Detect vendor of a Wi-Fi access point with just your
iPhone or iPad"
<https://github.com/jiribrejcha/wifi-vendor-lookup>

I'll try it.
BSSID: 84:eb:3e:f8:36:d3
Latitude: 32.45880508
Longitude: -93.81717681
Plugging the BSSID into:
<https://oui.is/>
<https://oui.is/84eb3ef836d3>
I get:
Vivint Smart Home 84:eb:3e:00:00:00/24

Here's a longer Lat:
BSSID: bc:9b:68:7e:15:c3
Latitude: 32.459438320000004
Longitude: -93.817276
<https://oui.is/bc9b687e15c3>
I get:
Vantiva USA LLC bc:9b:68:00:00:00/24

I can't determine if either company has a reason to have a longer
Lat/Long. However, notice the number of digits in the Lat, which are
mostly zeros, except for the last digit:
Latitude: 32.459438320000004
I don't know what they're doing, but it looks like they're using the
Latitude to store some kind of data or ID. There are several other
entries in the data that show a similar pattern of 8 places to the
right of the decimal point for useful data followed by 6 zeros and 1
numeric digit.

This should be useful:
"Accuracy of Decimal Places in Latitude and Longitude Degrees" <https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=hRMBoCTy5a7HqVkxukhHd8>

8 decimal places is 1.11mm resolution which is probably the limit of
GPS resolution (not sure).

Anyway, good luck with whatever you're doing.

Thanks Jeff. We're neighbors in the Santa Cruz Mountains, by the way.

You've taught me a lot over the years, one item of which is that most
consumer routers (e.g., those with Broadcom chipsets) can't change the
outward facing BSSID (although some professional routers certainly can).

I have plenty of old Surfnet, Etheric, Hilltop & Ridge equipment, that I repurpose them as access points even though they're designed for CPE use.
<https://i.postimg.cc/5t4Nhkwx/transceiver01.jpg>
<https://i.postimg.cc/RZXNZBCQ/transceiver02.jpg>
<https://i.postimg.cc/qMhQRkJN/linksys-wrt-54g.jpg>

Loren and Mike, in particular, and sometimes Andrea Lovelady at Surnet,
give me all their old transceivers which I repurpose as access points
(although much of the old Surfnet stuff is licensed Mikrotik stuff).

I'm well aware you're an old hand at UNDERSTANDING what WISPs can do!
So I appreciate that you looked up the brand of each of the strange ones.

My main goal here is simply to UNDERSTAND how Apple's WPS database is completely different than everyone else's, where I'm in discussions
with Brian Krebs and the Mozilla research team (Dan Veditz) so
I'm aware how the morally responsible companies handle hidden SSIDs.

Fundamentally, the results from Apple's RADAR bug report is that following Apple's public legally binding privacy policy will NOT work.

You have to know the super-secret trick to stay out of Apple's WPS
database, and even then, that trick puts you into every other one.

Yes. You of all people understand the catch 22 that Apple puts us in.

My main goal is simply to get Apple to do the morally right, ethically
correct, and legally defensible thing - which I have so far failed at.

But I rarely fail for long as you can note by the PG&E lines NOT failing anymore as PG&E has to call a conference3 with me for an hour EVERY SINGLE
TIME the power goes out (as per my CPUC complaint resolution).

So I rarely fail.
But so far, I'm failing to get Apple to do the right thing.
Even though I'm communicating at the highest (VP) level at Apple.

However, time (and effort) will tell.
Then I will be successful.

And that will preserve the privacy of hundreds of millions of homes.
Which is what drives me after all.
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While I will ignore that Chris called me a Trumpist simply because
I proved him wrong and he had no other defense than to resort to
insults, one perfectly reasonable disagreement is that Chris repeatedly disputed
my personal ad hoc characterization that it is "trivial" to get the location
of up to 400 APs near any given AP in Apple's highly insecure but very public WPS database.

That's fine as adults can disagree on effort given differing skill sets.
a. Chris repeatedly claimed it was not trivial
b. I easily proved that it was excessively trivial

Too trivial, in fact.
Anyone can do it.

To prove that this is trivial, even as Chris clearly opined that he felt it wasn't trivial (where trivial is in the eyes of the beholder, I guess),
here is what I've modified just today to convert the raw integer values
Apple stores in its highly insecure but very public WPS database to the typical decimal values we plug into our GPS location devices.

None of us knew how Apple saved the location of our APs until recently.
02:aa:a0:e3:5f:38 3245891571 -9381494140 32.45891571 -93.81494140
00:18:f8:c1:4a:65 3245990371 -9381384277 32.45990371 -93.81384277
44:1c:12:99:23:58 3245911026 -9381490325 32.45911026 -93.81490325
44:1c:12:99:23:5b 3245911026 -9381489562 32.45911026 -93.81489562
44:1c:12:99:23:5d 3245911407 -9381490325 32.45911407 -93.81490325
44:1c:12:99:23:5e 3245912170 -9381490325 32.45912170 -93.81490325
06:aa:a0:e3:5f:38 3245893096 -9381491088 32.45893096 -93.81491088
72:13:01:01:99:9a 3245925521 -9381433868 32.45925521 -93.81433868
72:13:01:01:99:9d 3245924758 -9381433868 32.45924758 -93.81433868
etc.

After digging deeper (see other posts), I've confirmed Apple is simply
storing our personal data to 8 decimal places, but without the decimal
point. So all the conversion of Apple's raw values to GPS are off a bit.

That is, Apple's wide-open yet highly insecure WPS database stores
latitude and longitude as integers representing the real coordinate
multiplied by 100,000,000 (i.e., multiply by one hundred million).

I think mainly, since we're using Windows tools to get Apple privacy data, that we simply needed to UNDERSTAND better what it is that Apple is allowing everyone on the planet, no matter who they are, to access.

I agree with everyone who says the precision for the decimal location
in Apple's highly insecure but all-too-public easily accessed WPS database
is likely far higher than it needs to be for simply locating an access point.
9a:0f:6f:18:7c:00 3246034622 -9381387329 32.460346 -93.813873
a2:0f:6f:18:7c:00 3246035003 -9381387329 32.460350 -93.813873
a6:0f:6f:18:7c:00 3246034622 -9381386566 32.460346 -93.813866
2a:ad:18:fc:8b:1f 3246102142 -9381381988 32.461021 -93.813820
where all four of those in Shreveport, LA map to the same 100-meter area.
0.0008deg latitude ~ 89 meters
0.0010deg longitude at that latitude ~ 92 meters

Apple's WPS (Wi-Fi Positioning System) database appears to be
storing our personal BSSID locations using fixed-point integer
encoding where
Latitude is apparently stored as an integer ~ lat * 1e8
Longitude is stored as an integer ~ lon * 1e8

Hence Apple's WPS database stores coordinates with 8 decimal places:
1e-8 degrees of latitude ~ 1.1 millimeters
But the real-world accuracy of Wi-Fi geolocation is nowhere near that.
So the location of each individual BSSID is probably within ~10 meters.

When you look up your own AP in Apple's database, if you get the
raw numbers, all you need to do to convert Apple's stored value back
into a normal GPS coordinate, you just divide by 100,000,000.

Here's the modified python script that just divides by 100 million
the raw data that Apple stores about us in its highly insecure public
WPS database.

#!/usr/bin/env -S uv run --script
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-

# C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\apple_bssid_locator.py
# Queries Apple WPS database for GPS:BSSID location pairs
# Implementation based on https://github.com/hubert3/iSniff-GPS
#
# Usage: apple_bssid_locator.py 11:22:33:AA:BB:CC
# Usage: apple_bssid_locator.py 11:22:33:AA:BB:CC --all
# Usage: apple_bssid_locator.py 11:22:33:AA:BB:CC --map
#
# Changelog:
# v1p0 20251205 - Initial version
# v1p1 20251214 - Added logging to results.txt
# v1p2 20251215 - Timestamped results.txt to avoid overwrites
# v1p3 20251219 - Limited output to 6 decimal places
# v1p4 20251219 - Added raw integer output alongside converted decimals
# v1p5 20251222 - Fixed raw to decimal conversion (divide by 100 Million)

import argparse
import requests
import webbrowser
import AppleWLoc_pb2

def parse_arguments():
parser = argparse.ArgumentParser()
parser.add_argument("bssid", type=str, help="display the location of the bssid")
parser.add_argument("-m", "--map", help="shows the location on google maps", action='store_true')
parser.add_argument("-a", "--all", help="shows all results returned, not just the requested one", action='store_true')
args = parser.parse_args()
return args

def format_bssid(bssid):
return ':'.join(e.rjust(2, '0') for e in bssid.split(':'))

def query_bssid(bssid, output_file="results.txt"):
apple_wloc = AppleWLoc_pb2.AppleWLoc()
wifi_device = apple_wloc.wifi_devices.add()
wifi_device.bssid = bssid
apple_wloc.unknown_value1 = 0
apple_wloc.return_single_result = 0 # request ALL results
serialized_apple_wloc = apple_wloc.SerializeToString()
length_serialized_apple_wloc = len(serialized_apple_wloc)

headers = {'User-Agent':'locationd/1753.17 CFNetwork/889.9 Darwin/17.2.0'}
data = b"\x00\x01\x00\x05"+b"en_US"+b"\x00\x13"+b"com.apple.locationd"+b"\x00\x0a"+b"8.1.12B411"+b"\x00\x00\x00\x01\x00\x00\x00" + bytes((length_serialized_apple_wloc,)) + serialized_apple_wloc
r = requests.post('https://gs-loc.apple.com/clls/wloc', headers=headers, data=data)

apple_wloc = AppleWLoc_pb2.AppleWLoc()
apple_wloc.ParseFromString(r.content[10:])

# Build dictionary of results
results = {}
with open(output_file, "w") as f:
for wifi_device in apple_wloc.wifi_devices:
if wifi_device.HasField('location'):
raw_lat = wifi_device.location.latitude
raw_lon = wifi_device.location.longitude
lat = raw_lat * 1e-8
lon = raw_lon * 1e-8
mac = format_bssid(wifi_device.bssid)
results[mac] = (lat, lon, raw_lat, raw_lon)
# Write both raw integers and converted decimals (8 decimal places)
f.write(f"{mac}\t{raw_lat}\t{raw_lon}\t{lat:.8f}\t{lon:.8f}\n")

print(f"Saved {len(results)} entries to {output_file}")
return results

def main():
args = parse_arguments()
print("Searching for location of bssid: %s" % args.bssid)
results = query_bssid(args.bssid)

# Determine which BSSIDs to process
bssids_to_process = results.keys() if args.all else [args.bssid.lower()]

found = False
for bssid in bssids_to_process:
if bssid in results:
lat, lon, raw_lat, raw_lon = results[bssid]
if lat == -180.0 and lon == -180.0:
continue # Skip entries that were not found
if found:
print()
print(f"BSSID: {bssid}")
print(f"Raw latitude integer: {raw_lat}")
print(f"Raw longitude integer: {raw_lon}")
print(f"Latitude (degrees): {lat:.8f}")
print(f"Longitude (degrees): {lon:.8f}")
if args.map:
url = f"http://www.google.com/maps/place/{lat:.8f},{lon:.8f}"
webbrowser.open(url)
found = True
if not found:
print("The bssid was not found.")

if __name__ == '__main__':
main()

# end of C:\app\os\python\apple_bssid_locator\apple_bssid_locator.py
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